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Tottenham The Best Side Newcastle Have Played This Season

6:46 pm, Sunday, February 12th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 266 Comments

In retrospect, after we got over the pain of watching the game,  Tottenham looked a very good side yesterday against Newcastle.

Danny Simpson tries to tackle Emmanuel Adebayor

Of course they were helped big time when most of the Newcastle players started the game seemingly in a deep sleep, and we were two goals down in the first five minutes,  as Tottenham seemed to find oceans of room in the Newcastle defense.

Since Tottenham were looking for a tough game against Newcastle, the two goals really helped them, and they went on to play some exhilarating football, and they now have to be close to the two top Manchester sides.

It seems that Danny Simpson, one of the Newcastle back four yesterday, who was nowhere to be seen for that first goal, when Emmanuel Adebayor crossed the ball from the right, and left back Benoit Assou-Ekotto had plenty of time, and loads of space, to smash the ball into the back of the net after only a couple of minutes.

Danny seems to have been impressed by the Spurs side yesterday:

“Conceding two goals in five minutes doesn’t help,” “Tottenham are a great team and to concede two disappointing goals in the first five minutes, it’s going to be tough from then on.”

“We base our game – especially away from home – on making sure we are solid in the first 10 minutes and don’t concede, especially against the top teams. To go 2-0 down, the fans lift up and the players are confident and it’s tough.”

“The manager was obviously disappointed because before the game he said we had a great chance to perform and maybe break into the top four at this stage of the season.”

 “I think Spurs have got a great chance of winning the Premier League. We’ve played against the top teams this season and for me they are the best team we’ve played against.”

“But he said you’ve got to hold your hands up – they are a great team and they played really well.”

The Tottenham players were inspired by the fact that Harry Redknapp had just been cleared in his tax evasion trial, and with Fabio Capello having resigned from the England manager position, it could also be their  last season with Harry in charge at Spurs - although that’s  far from certain.

When you consider that Redknapp has only been at the north London club since late October of 2008, he has done magnificently, there’s no doubt about that.

But we also think that Alan Pardew has made as good a start in his first 14 months at Newcastle,  that Harry made at Spurs.  And even though we were hammered yesterday, by a much better side on the day, our lads are still 6th top of the Premier League.

A  win against Wolves, who were hammered at home 5-1 by WBA earlier today,  in out next game in a couple of weeks time,  and we’ll still be in good shape in the league.

Alan Pardew came in for some criticism after the game yesterday, but that’s part of the job of being a football manager, and being the Newcastle manager in particular, and he would have expected as much.

But Simpson thinks Alan is a great manager as he continued:

“For me personally he has been a top manager,” “He gives a lot of confidence; he is very thorough and gives us all of the information that we need for games. He is a man-manager.”

“If you need to talk to him, his door’s open and he gives great advice.”  “He’s still young and, for me personally, in the future I can see him doing the England job.

That’s not the first time that Alan has been praised by one of his players,  and he seems to be a very good man-manager, and we know he’s great with the youngsters too.

He was at the FA Youth Cup game last week when the lads beat QPR 2-1 after  extra time, and Pardew went in the dressing room before the game to give the young lads a pep talk.

It was a very tough loss for the fans yesterday, and another very difficult game to watch – for those who saw it though.

But in the past Newcastle have come storming back, and I think I convinced my son today, who was just a little down-beat about yesterday’s performance and result, that a win against Wolves will put us back on track.

And then a win at home to Sunderland and we’ll be in great shape.

It’s disappointing to get walloped 5-0, but didn’t a London team lose 8-2 to Manchester United last August,  and didn’t a Manchester side lose 6-1 to Manchester City this season in the league also?

I rest my case – kind of. :D



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266 responses so far ↓

  • 1 toonruz // Feb 12, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    Dannyo
    your wrong i know a coach who could do better than pardew keegan could for 1 and many more

  • 2 Spuggy // Feb 12, 2012 at 6:49 PM

    Yeah Keegan had a very successful reign when he walked.

  • 3 Spuggy // Feb 12, 2012 at 6:51 PM

    On a completely different note…..

    All the best for the final Tiote!! Bring a winners medal back! ACoN Final on ITV4 now.

  • 4 RobertNufc25 // Feb 12, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    Thank f*** that acon is over 2nite its awful.

  • 5 toonruz // Feb 12, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    Spuggy
    easy for u to call some 1 who done great things for this club , nufc would not be where we are today if it was not for k keegan

  • 6 Dannyo // Feb 12, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    @toonruz
    KK had his time. U saw him with Man City and England i reckon? Also, Dalglish had his time with Liverpool, u see him now?
    They’re both outdated and done.

  • 7 Spuggy // Feb 12, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    Luis Suarez and Kenny Dalglish apologise over handshake row

    And so they should….disgraceful.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17004667

  • 8 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    @Marty-Toon

    My concern is that Pardew is trying to offer Simpson a new deal, meaning that Simpson is in his plans for the future – if Simpsons future at Newcastle United is as a squad player then fair enough he deserves that. For the rest of the season I would use Cabaye instead of Perch, Hatem Ben Arfa instead of Obertan and R.Taylor instead of Simpson, and unfortunately we don’t have any other choice than Williamson for CB until the summer. But because of that we need to stop playing the high line.

    I know your going to say Cabaye has been un-available so Perch had to play – wrong. Abeid is a better football player.

    And then your going to say R.Taylor has been un-available so Simpson had to play – Pardew has picked Simpson ahead of R.Taylor on many occasions when both are fit, and I personally would be surprised if Tavernier was any worse than Simpson.

    And then your going to say Obertan offers more to the team than Ben Arfa, and for that argument I have just spent an hour of my time talking about. And the conclusion is obvious.

  • 9 Spuggy // Feb 12, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    toonruz,

    I have utmost respect for what Keegan did first time round and as a player. But when he walked out second time he not only left the regime (fair enough) but left the fans and the club in trouble.

  • 10 Spuggy // Feb 12, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    I agree about abied – what I’ve seen I like, he could be tried as a stand in for Tiote, defo better on the ball. But as yet unproven at this level against top quality opposition.

  • 11 Spuggy // Feb 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    Tiote plays…..go on son!

  • 12 RobertNufc25 // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    1,Man City
    2,Man Utd
    3,Tottenham
    4,Arsenal
    5,Chelsea
    6,Liverpool
    7,Newcastle
    8,Sunderland
    9,Everton
    10,Norwich

    Mystic Rob’s end of season predictions. ;)

  • 13 toonruz // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    Spuggy
    second time round keegan had every right to walk out of nufc and any manager worth his salt would of done the same , the thing is keegan is not a yes man like pardew is ,and thew main reason keegan walked out was because d wise had more say than keegan did no wonder he walked

  • 14 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    One thing I do want to make clear to any reader who decides to read my comments is that I think Pardew has done brilliantly as manager and I don’t want him to leave or be sacked. No way. I just want him to start dropping the players who have been letting the team down and continuing to pick them under false hopes of them being better than they actually are (at the minute).

  • 15 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    I wanna shake Suarez’s hand, and then crush it!

  • 16 Spuggy // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    So wolves got stuffed at home 1-5 so should be a walk in the park for us at home with Cabaye and Tiote back.

    ;-)

  • 17 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    Barras’ Pivotal Predictions:

    1 Man Utd
    2 Man City
    3 Tottenham
    4 Arsenal
    5 Newcastle
    6 Liverpool
    7 Chelsea

  • 18 Spuggy // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:04 PM

    Suarez is a good player but an aweful player. Ballotelli anyone.

  • 19 RobertNufc25 // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:06 PM

    Everton will make a late push up the table as they always do,but I think the mackems will be our main rivals for 7th place.

  • 20 Dannyo // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:07 PM

    Simmo is by far a better RB than Raylor, raylor has a good cross, yes, but he’ll get passed more times than i can count.
    Simmo does an OK job, but there are better players out there. Simmo as a squad player, yes, ahead of Raylor, yes, but he should be replaced with better as a starter.

  • 21 Spuggy // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:07 PM

    Person I meant.

  • 22 RobertNufc25 // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    Thank f*** Suarez said sorry.
    Im fed up of hearing about It.

  • 23 Dannyo // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    @Robert
    Agree with your table assesment, altho, it’ll be interesting when Tiote and Cabaye come back.

  • 24 t00ntime // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    I think if we play propely we can finish abover liverpool and chelsea… Wud rather finish 5th then 4th cause in the CL we will fae teams like the spuds every round… In the europa league we have a better chance to impress… Also I live in holland and theres 3dutch teams in europa league so more chance of me seeing a game :D
    Tiote going to win tonight ;-)

  • 25 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    Balotelli is a gent compared to Suarez!

  • 26 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    Chelsea are finished. Liverpool got Kenny as manager – nuff said. The problem is Arsenal. (Over the next few seasons). I don’t see the MON effect lasting for another whole season at Sunderland personally.

  • 27 toonruz // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    i think pardew does not have a say on who we sign , and i all think pardew has a say on who leaves , if pardew was in charge with in who we sign i beleave pardew would sign player like c cole from west ham

  • 28 RobertNufc25 // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    I’d like to add if we lose Colo to a long term Injury were f*****.lol

  • 29 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    Pardew tried his level best to bring in Carlton Cole apparently! The man’s Allardyce 2.0!

  • 30 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    ————-Krul————–
    Santon–Mbwia-Pieters–Jonas
    —-Guthrie-Tiote-Cabaye—–
    ————HBA————–
    ——–Ba——Cisse———

    What a fkin team!

  • 31 toonruz // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    Benry
    i would not be suprised at all in that 1

  • 32 Wor Shearer // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    At least Balotelli’s funny.

  • 33 RobertNufc25 // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    toonruz // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    No good manager or sensible one will ever work for Ashley mate.

    I actually dont mind Pardew,plus he’s probably one of the only managers out there who will put up with Ashleys crap.

    Even Hughton was getting fed up with Ashley.

  • 34 Klatoon // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    It’ll b “The clash of teams coming off 5 goal stuffings”

  • 35 Wor Shearer // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    Does anyone think Colo might lose whatever pace he’s got soon? a bit like Rio (and Rio used to be damn fast).

    If so, a long term contract (at over 80k/week) might not be a great idea.

  • 36 cyprus // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    Positive: AP says he has learned from this embarrassment… Positive: He took the blame.
    Now, what do big coaches do? They bench the culprits, be it Rooney, Drogba etc.
    So AP, who’re you going to bench? How will you change your game? Dude, at least try HBA on an extended run (that does not mean one half :)), prove to the fans your lowly opinion of him. He’s off in the summer anyway, and we can’t do much worse than the spurs game. Throw Abeid on, give Gossling a game. If the 3 above (and others) don’t cut it, then ok, they can go. Like you said a couple of days ago, we’re safe now!

  • 37 Wor Shearer // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    Classic Balotelli fail! lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erI5dG3_R5E

  • 38 Wor Shearer // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    Sorry Tiote but i’m going for Zambia tonight!

    This Greece Vs Portugal in the Euros x 1000!

  • 39 Scottishtoon95 // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    Tiote won’t be back for a we while, good thing its the break cus Cote’ d Ivory ( excuse the French, I know none :) ) will have a big party on Tuesday if they win, so Tiote won’t get back till probably Thursday (good thing he doesn’t drink could be like Gervinho, with a massive head[lol]ache/hangover) and probably won’t train till saturday/sunday.

  • 40 Wor Shearer // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    The only Zambia player i’ve heard of is Mayuka and he’s hardly any good.

  • 41 Scottishtoon95 // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    RobertNufc25
    Reckon we would have been enthralled by the proposition of 7th at the start of the season, bit seeing how we’ve done, with toto and his french compratriote back I’d hope we’d be pushing for a bit higher (not much higher mind 5/6th).

  • 42 Wor Shearer // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:30 PM

    @Scottishtoon95

    He hardly needs much training with the team. If he’s fit, he’ll play.

  • 43 peeto lovenkrands // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    Did anyone actually think we’d beat tottingham anyway,im sick of all the negative posts on this site everytime we lose a game,howay man it’s February where 6th in the league when we were supposedly going to get relegated,the squad is thin but we’ve got a lot of good players to build on in the summer,outside the top six where the best of the rest IMO,where not going to win every game are we,come on toon keep positive

  • 44 Jail for Ashley // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    I’m not gonna come on here and start saying this is how Pards should have played ,as getting Scarbourgh to the Premiership using a 4-3-3 sytem in FM doesnt really qualify me,but I’m getting a bit fed up with the almost every other day posts of how great the youth set up is and all these top youngsters we have waiting in the wings,if thats the case why aren’t they getting played,ok Perch hasn’t played that bad,but he offers absolutely nothing to the team,these great youngsters we have cant be that great if James Perch is getting a game ahead of them.

  • 45 toonLYF // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    The dembas came in 2 by 2, pardew pardew, the taylors came in 2 by 2, pardew pardew, the ameobi’s there were 2 and were going to finish higher than u cause alan pardews building a massive f***ing arc

  • 46 SwedishMagpie // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    link to zambia vs ivory coast ?

  • 47 Scottishtoon95 // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    Wor Shearer
    true he is a tank, though apparently he was a baby in paintball, the one activity you’d think he’d annilate everyone, rambo style.

  • 48 Scottishtoon95 // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    JFA
    I’m confused. I made Hartlepool win the CL in four seasons in FIFA, thought I was the worlds greatest manager. Was suprised I got no offers from Barca! :) ;)

  • 49 Wor Shearer // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:40 PM

    @toonLYF

    If Pardew’s Noah….Ashley is?

  • 50 toonLYF // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    an elephant

  • 51 Mancgeordie // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:46 PM

    Just got a feeling that colo, simo n guthrie will be part of the summer clearout n say another 4-5 coming in like last year with a another 5-6 youngstars from abroad to go into the under 18′s n reserves wjat does do you think lads

  • 52 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    Paddy Kenny was just on TalkSport talking about Jose Mourinho and he was asked where he thought Mourinho would be next season and his response was’ The one club that no one has mention is Newcastle and they are a club that would excite him’

  • 53 Klatoon // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:52 PM

    Ivory Coast’s Jean jacques Gosso #6 is impressive,a DM with flair who’s filled in at RB this tournament with ease. Got Tiote’s aggression with much more flair and finesse.

  • 54 peeto lovenkrands // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:53 PM

    There’s no way Jose would work under Ashley itd never work,nice thought though eh

  • 55 Geordiedoonsooth // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    I think it was more like we are the worst side Tottenham have played this season

  • 56 jayphoto // Feb 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    Mayuka for Zambia looks so quick and exciting! Wonder if we’ll follow up our interest in him in the summer!? Who ever said pards tried to get Cole in here is talking rubbish! I know for a fact there was only 1 english team that enquired about him and it weren’t us! Some people on here make me ashamed to b a toon fan! 1 Point off 4th place after 25 games and the managers clueless?? You’s play too much football manager! Chelsea Liverpool and Arsenal have spent 100s of millions yet we’re in amongst them, try supporting the team when they lose for a change! So fickle!

  • 57 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    jayphoto – Mayuka has been one of the best player during this ACoN, would love to see us follow up our interest but with the ACoN taking place again next year we would lose three strikers and Tiote

  • 58 Drewson // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    A very reliable source has told me that he witnessed a bust up between Santon and Simpson the other day and Simpson was heard to say that he can’t wait to get away to QPR…..so this could be the reason Simpson is stalling on signing a contract. Get rid i recon…thinks he’s better than he is and if he doesn’t want to be here get someone in who does…..

  • 59 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM

    I don’t understand how Paddy Kenny would have any information on what Jose Mourinho wants to do in the summer. Having said that he always credited and applauded our club in interviews after the game, and thought our supporters were awesome. And then of course there is the Sir Bobby Robson connection.

  • 60 RobertNufc25 // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    Rap it up brown nose Butler. ;)

  • 61 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    toonruz comment no.1 i like everyone else loved the swashbuckling days of keegans 1st reign. However we are only now recovering from that failed blueprint for “success” and say what u or anybody else want about ashley but only for him and his cash we would be another leeds or portsmouth you cant be scrapping reserve teams and not heavily invest in youth and expect to achieve anything longterm. Sorry but keegan was fastracking this club to ruins and was quite willing to bankrupt the club when we were down and out. Sorry m8 but my perception on king kev is not what it was at all.

  • 62 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    @Drewson

    Don’t even joke about that stuff. Seriously. That would be awesome news. As long as it doesn’t make our main players want to leave.

  • 63 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Belfast wind ur neck in :)

  • 64 RobertNufc25 // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Anybody else having problems with Virgin Media broadband??

    Ours has been slow as f*** for the last 4- 5 days
    It’s cracking me up.

  • 65 RobertNufc25 // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:20 PM

    JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Stop trying to blow my cover.

    Im still on that mission. ;)

  • 66 Drewson // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    I know the source and he was pretty serious…..and sober so i believe him 100%…..just remains to see whether it’s true….time will tell

  • 67 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    Sorry mate, forgot your under cover ;)

  • 68 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    If Pardew is sacked then it wouldn’t just be him leaving. The whole coaching crew would almost certainly be dropped by an incoming manager who would want his own coaching staff. So we’d not only lose AP but Carver, Stone – maybe Beardsley, maybe even Carr. The thing we need most is continuity just now not another huge disruption. So for all those who’d sack Pardew for not playing HBA every game, live with it. I actually think AP will work out how to play HBA but it will take time.
    SAF took a good while to adjust after Aberdeen and nearly got sacked after a poor spell. Floppy chops has taken over 3 years to shape Spuds into a title chasing team. Toon fans aren’t the most patient – but we’re a work in progress.
    I’d look for at least 4 defenders as good as our current best as this is where we are weakest.
    The problem is tat squad players are always going to get some starts due to injuries, suspensions etc., so players like Perch, Raylor, Simmo and Willo will always get match time. Problem is that if they’re up against quality it’ll show and we’ll get dumped on.
    Obvious solution is to try to progressively upgrade our squad players as well as the strongest 11.
    We can either bring in up and coming but highly talented players – the current approach or buy better first team players and use some of the current starters as back up.
    To get to CL placings we need to do both, but as this is unlikely we’ll just have to be patient for a year or two more and take the odd thrashing on the chin

  • 69 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM

    MagpiesFlyHigh – Pardew wont be going anywhere ( I hope)

  • 70 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    JB

    Hope so too – but there’s a few on here who’d sacrifice him for Benny’s playing time…

  • 71 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:27 PM

    @RobertNufc25

    Sorry buddy, I’m using Virgin Media internet as well, and its performing fine.

  • 72 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:28 PM

    MagpiesFlyHigh – Benny has to earn his place, if he’s as good as people have come to believe then he wouldn’t have only played for 45min at Blackburn

  • 73 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    @RobertNufc25 perhaps your internet is slow as the Government is monitoring what your up too ;)

  • 74 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    JB

    He is NOT the Messiah – he’s a very naughty boy :-)

  • 75 Rob1971 // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    Hi chaps first time posting on here, i have seen mixed views on ashley and pardew on here, i believe pardew is a decent manager but i am not sure about him tactically and long term how he wants us to play he said at the start of the season he wanted us to play passing football but i have not seen much of it this season, villa away was the best football football we have played so far, for me hba has to be given more games ahead of orbertan especially at home, he is frustrating but he is more creative, bring oba on as a sub when needed.

    One big concern i have is how many chances the opposition is getting, yesterday was not a one off, blackburn should have had a hatful, qpr & villa in the first have should have been ahead and the majority of our away games going back to steve taylor injury have been terrible, hopefully tiote and cabaye returning to our midfield will steady things.

    For me the jury is still out on ashley, he has done good things but also some terrible things for the club the time to judge him is this summer if we hold onto our best players we will then know he has genuine ambitions for the club.

  • 76 alip123 // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    how’s mr t doing for ivory coast?

  • 77 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    magpies fly high

    why in god’s name would our scout, who was here well before AP’s arrival, leave if the manager were to?

  • 78 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    on a side note

    hope pardew is paying attention to the ACoN…..Tiote can obviously play in a three man midfield so why not give 433 or some variation of it a shot with cabaye, guthrie and tiote in the middle, cisse up top and ba and HBA (wishful thinking, clearly) on either side of him….

  • 79 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    matty NUFC

    Read the post and you’ll see the word MAYBE.
    The point is that changing management teams is highly disruptive and you just don’t know how personalities are going to work together or clash.

    Am also a fan of 4-3-3 and reckon your mid3 and front3 suggestions would be top class — but we need a better back four which is why I think we need to spend here before anywhere else

  • 80 jayphoto // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    Tiote looks out of sorts here! Impressed with Zambia!

  • 81 alip123 // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    Is it just me or does Gutierrez seemed to be tired out? Since last season I think he’s only missed one league match.

    Experiment with EITHER Guthrie-Tiote-Cabaye as a three man midfield with HBA behind or play Cabaye in the HBA role with Ryan Taylor in midfield

  • 82 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    Game is opening up could go either way – On NUFC matters have we scored off a corner this season?

  • 83 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    HBA debate still raging? Yawn

    Turning on the ACoN and see a player getting a yellow and instantly knowing its Tiote….priceless

  • 84 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:54 PM

    oh man! does anybody have a stream for the final?? mine went down and it’s just starting to open up!

  • 85 jayphoto // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:54 PM

    im growing to like ryan Taylor right mid! I’d give Jonas a rest but switch either obertan to the left with Taylor right or play fergie or Benny left! Saying that BA was a left mid at hoffenheim, cd always put HBA upfront but deffo need cabs and tiote back before we play Benny or obertan

  • 86 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    #80 he didnt look tired against villa but they all looked fooked yesterday – Tiote just been booked

  • 87 Offkey // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    Hotdog – Yeah – one of Ba’s first few where he snuck it in high at the near post……..corner from left

  • 88 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    wwjbd

    there seems to be no debate…..just people stating the obvious in regards to our best 11 :)

  • 89 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    jayphoto

    thought ba played more as a winger in a 433 in germany? could be wrong….

  • 90 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    Drogba sky’s the penalty over the bar.

  • 91 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    Drogba just put a peno high over the bar.
    Terrible effort

  • 92 Wor Shearer // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    Drogba blamed the penalty spot for his pen miss! lol, numpty

  • 93 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    Dreadful pen from Drogba wow

    matty
    According to fans aye but what do they know :)

  • 94 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    offkey

    yeah your right mate – one goal not great though our corners are a bit clueless.AP to work on me thinks – drogba missed pen three yards over wow

  • 95 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:00 PM

    If Ivory Coast lose now its all on Drogbas shoulders and thats a terrible way to end his international career for a team he has done so much for gutted for him

    Howay Tiote get a casual screamer and settle this thing!

  • 96 jayphoto // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM

    Matty yea they played 4-3-3 and 4-5-1 Away from home! Wouldn’t mind us trying that out now we’ve got papiss!

  • 97 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM

    when did we last get a pen btw ?

  • 98 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    To think that we will lose Tiote, Ba and Cisse again next season

  • 99 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    jayphoto

    me neither, not at all. we need to try something here desperately

  • 100 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    @ drewson yeah i rekon thats true about simpson id say hes dying to go to QPR and be a star in the championship cop on m8 doesnt sound right to me that an english lad would run off to QPR and let an italian walk all over him simmo had his worst game for a long time last night his positioning was septic.

  • 101 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:06 PM

    @mtd old trafford i think!

  • 102 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:07 PM

    sorry noy mtd M F H

  • 103 jayphoto // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:07 PM

    If Zambia win this its the equivelent of Wales beating Spain in the euro final! Amazing achievement just to get there! The qualifications for next years African nations are all 2 legged knockouts so there’s a bigger chance of big nations not qualifying! If senegals ACON is anything to go by we won’t lose any strikers next January!

  • 104 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    #95 man utd away mr.syrup

  • 105 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:09 PM

    jayphoto – The last 16 in this years event automatically qualify for the knock out stages for next years ACoN wich are played in October I think

  • 106 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    BBt1st
    And that wasn’t a good call either…
    Pardew is always moaning bout how we give them away but never seem to get them – should average out over the season but I bet it doesn’t

  • 107 jayphoto // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:11 PM

    I think simmo has it in his mind to go! Don’t think its for the money but I think he can see himself being replaced and wants to go whilst there’s interest! Unless he joins Qpr, then hes gone for money! Personally I hope he doesn’t get put on similar wages to santon he’s half the player!

  • 108 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    i have to say we seem to give away a our share of pens maybe our strikers are too hounest

  • 109 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    QPR might be a championship side next season so simmo would be playing at the right level then :-)

  • 110 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    Simmo is the starting RB in a team who have constantly been in the top 7 this season yet he is a championship standard player…..somethings not right there

    He has also saved us how many points with his goal line clearences?

  • 111 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    WWJBD

    Shola’s not playing now so someone has to be the scape goat

  • 112 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    im surprised me comment at post 61 seems to have sliped by unoticed or maybe i share most peoples view now.

  • 113 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    WWJBD

    Agree with you and I’m not going to slag off simmo – i think he’s one of the weakest links in our back 4 but it was a JOKE – mind you there’s loads on here who rate him about the same standard as DIV 1

  • 114 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    There are some shady characters in the VIP section and im not just talking about platini and blatter :-)

  • 115 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:20 PM

    JB

    Too true, funny how Santon is still the golden boy though despite him being defensively very poor yesterday. At fault for 2-3 goals imo and dragged our back 4 into all kinds of trouble

  • 116 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:20 PM

    BOOM BOOM

    maybe cos in hindsight we all agree with you

  • 117 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    BOOM – Whereas we all loved the time under KK, it’s easy to see now that there was no thought given to the long term future of the club, we were a cheque book club with little thought to the development to young players

  • 118 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:23 PM

    wwjbd

    all well to support under any circumstance but you can’t argue his quality matches the team’s ambition, quite clearly. i know you just like to kick about in your own way and subtly bring about points but simmo gets paid a lot of money (ok, not in comparison to other pros, but i’d be pleased with 11k a week) to do a job that he is very bad at.

  • 119 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:24 PM

    no lads i didnt say hes championship standard i was being tounge in cheek when i said he couldnt wait to play for them i think simmo gives everything but he is a little limited if we wana push on we need people like walker richards and the likes simmo is a good honest player but i think hes as good as he will get just my opinion though

  • 120 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    WWJBD

    I’m more inclined to be lenient with the lad given is age and the fact its his first season with us, yesterday was a repeat performance of the Liverpool game where we simply failed to show up

  • 121 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    MFH
    Haha wasen’t directed at u mate I sensed urs was a joke no offence ;)

    Just get tired of the scape goat attitude of some NUFC fans. Not one of our players yesterday were on song so for me they share the disappointment as a team

  • 122 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Im sure King Kev would change his view he wasnt perfect but i find it impossible to criticise the man. Did he not give us the best team we have ever seen?

  • 123 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Acn has been poor throughout…
    Wouldn’t mind getting kolo Toure in for a loan.
    He’s still a solid no nonsense defender

  • 124 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    thats what i thaught lads i think were all aware of its unsustainability now as chelski are soon to realise!

  • 125 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    marty-toon

    that’s a really good shout on Toure

    someone tell me if i’m wrong, but i don’t think EPL teams are aloud to get a player on loan outside of the transfer window….is that right? Toure would be great cover, hypothetically……just like Alex for 3mil would have been :/

  • 126 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    BOOM BOOM

    Okay agree with you that Simmo has done some pretty good things this season and is much improved but isn’t going to be able to step up another level to top 4 standard. He’s has got a real slagging on here though – much maligned and often unfairly but is limited IMO

  • 127 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    Jack butler
    The acon is only every 2 years so it isn’t on next year

  • 128 jayphoto // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    I’d argue Keegan was successful at a time when the premier league was not as strong! The influx of foreign players, managers and tactics in the last 10 years make it a much harder league to succeed in now! Gung-ho all out attack would be ripped to shreds by teams managed by mourinho, Mancini, Wenger etc and the divide between the top and bottom is massive! I don’t think King kev would cut it these days! The managers that have impressed me these season, in this order are Lambert, Rodgers and then pardew!

  • 129 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    matty
    So Simmo has added nothing to us currently being 6th? He has been the only constant in our back 4 this season in the league (played in every PL match we have had and more most of the 90 in each) clearly he has skill and is solid or the numerous other options that are touted would of taken his spot. I dont think he is the best RB in the league but I think he is one of the best we have had in a long time plus he is still relatively young and keeps growing as a player

    Also he never shys away from the match

    JB
    Oh aye I love Santon but if people are going to pick out individual errors surely it shouldnt be baised on popularity terms?

  • 130 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    Marty – Its being played next year so it does not fall on Euro Championship or World Cup years

  • 131 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:31 PM

    WWJBD

    Spot on m8 – too many on here pick out individual players when we do badly and it is a collective failure

  • 132 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    Matty
    Epl teams can get a loan player in before the end of February I think

  • 133 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    ACoN is changing to odd numbered years in order to avoid World Cups and Euros so its on next year, qualifiers have already started for it

  • 134 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    WWJBD

    it shouldnt be baised on popularity terms, but it seems to be on here, Shola ( who is not my favourite player) was slaughtered for our collapse at Fulham which I simply cannot understand, but yesterday was a repeat of Liverpool where the entire team was poor

  • 135 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    jayphoto

    And KK knew he was out of his depth as England Manager too

  • 136 geordielad880 // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    How about playing this side in our next match:-

    ———————–krul

    simpson—–williamson——-collo——-santon

    ———-guthrie——-tiote—–cabaye

    ——–ba——————————–jonas
    ————————-cisse

    With ba and jonas supporting cisse, was thinking about ben arfa, but we need high work rate in that formation, ba likes playing down the flanks, and has fantastic movement.

  • 137 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:35 PM

    Only clubs outside of the Premiership can loan a player after the window has closed unless it’s for a keeper in which case an emergency loan is allowed

  • 138 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:35 PM

    jayphoto

    You can just argue with yourself mate – The facts are there, in fact fook the stats, i seen it with my own eyes and it was f*****n brilliant, what a ride he took us on. Maybe your too young to remember!!

  • 139 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    JB
    I didn’t know that mate,that’s bloody terrible for us if we lose those 3 plus abeid if they’re still at the club.

  • 140 geordielad880 // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    I really think dan gosling isnt getting the chance he needs, he has always been a player who needs a run in a side, he is a great box to box player, and a good tackler, he needs games, he had a bad injury and it takes time to get your sharpness, fitness etc back, he is a good player.

  • 141 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    MFH
    Cheers bud glad am not the only one on here thinking like that

    JB
    Aye gets my back up tbh. I support NUFC and that means I support every player we have. If they have a poor game I will moan about it but its easy to cheer when ur winning

  • 142 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    GL880

    could risk HBA instead of jonas though

  • 143 willgwent2k5 // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    sorry to be fictitious lads, but kk actually quit 3 times. he quit fro the first time midway thruogh his first reign over an argument with the board over money for transfers and payment of his assistant terry mc dermott because at the time king kev was paying him out of his own pocket

  • 144 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    Marty – The last 16 of this comp go through to a knock out, two leg system that starts in October

  • 145 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:39 PM

    Putting our top goal scorer on the wing. Palm-meets-face.

  • 146 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:40 PM

    geordielad880
    Id go for that but Jonas CM HBA winger and Guthrie on the bench

    But I am a bit of a fan of a more central Gutti

  • 147 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:40 PM

    Max gradel is a fine footballer but again lacks a quality last ball.
    What is it with some wing players?Don’t they practice crossing a ball?
    Surely Jonas and Obertan could use some time practicing deliveries with the likes of Rayls and Cabaye showing how it’s done

  • 148 ash1001 // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:42 PM

    As fans of the toon, we all seem to know where the problems are, and we are probably right.
    Simpson – backs off all the time, gives his opponent the freedom of the park, cannot pass for toffee.
    Williamson – Far to slow and caught out on positioning
    Obertan – Is he really posing as a footballer
    Perch – Sorry but just makes the numbers up,
    All of t he above are championship standard at best, there are others that we could all include.
    Pardew watches these guys day in day out, surely he can see what we all see and do something about it. He had his chance in January, made promises as he did in the summer and did nothing about it, he is either not strong enough to stand up to Ashley and state the obvious, or he thinks these guys are OK for the premiership. Sp Pardew has to accept some of the blame

  • 149 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:43 PM

    Barras
    Ba scored goals from the wing for West Ham quite regularly

  • 150 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:43 PM

    Jesus im thinking of coming off this blog – If KK is up for a slating on here aswell . He GAVE us the most exciting football we are ever likely to witness at St.James with a team that could compete with the very best. I give up !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 151 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:43 PM

    barras

    You’ve obviously noticed how often the Chelski no 9 (a certain £50m player with a low scoring record) is the provider from wide positions !

  • 152 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:45 PM

    hotdog – Everyone would agree that KK gave us brilliant football, but the CLUB was short sighted at the time

  • 153 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:45 PM

    ash1001

    AP can only bring in replacements if he is given the funds.

    hotdog

    KK is not getting slated – but he wasn’t perfect and getting rid of youth development wasn’t his finest decision

  • 154 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM

    #147 Rome wasnt built in a day bud, look what he has done in a year and a bit. He knows they aint going to get us in the top four and will be shifted on when possible and better brought in.

  • 155 geordielad880 // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:48 PM

    I think we dont have great quality from the wingers we have at the clu in terms of crosses, we have wingers with pace, and dribbling skill, ie obertan, jonas, ben arfa, our strength is in ba, cisse, cabaye, tiote, and 4-3-3 would suit best, with ba and another player supporting cisse, ba loves playing advanced from wide, and also santon could support well from full back

  • 156 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:48 PM

    Im sure KK would agree with you if he had his time again but there are some people having a pop at him, they could be mackems like!

  • 157 willgwent2k5 // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:48 PM

    i’m not slating kk in any way. i’m just showing he is not sweet and innocent. i love the fella as much as a guy can without turning into a fairy and i thank him for every thing he did for the club in the 90′s but you must admit it was him who dropped us in the brown stuff 4 years ago!

  • 158 geordielad880 // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    but also with a 4-3-3 formation you need three hard working central midfielders, which cabaye and tiote are, i still have my doubts about guthries work-rate, he is a good player no doubt, but no sure about his tacking and work-rate, i think the formation suits, but its who plays with tiote and cabaye in central midfield and who plays left of cisse as a supporting wide player

  • 159 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:52 PM

    I see Spurs and Redknapp as being a modern day Newcastle and Keegan, it’ll be interesting to see if he has the tactical side to his management with England where he can’t buy a player to solve a problem position

  • 160 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:52 PM

    This Chris kokookuloolo for Zambia looks a top player

  • 161 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:52 PM

    #156 No he didnt drop us in it – He was undermined by those above him, with people making decisions he should have been making. He told ashley to get rid of wise/jiminez and he wouldnt so he walked. I would have done the same, he could not do his job. Read the court case again its in black and white :-)

  • 162 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:54 PM

    GL880

    Guthrie has a good work rate, great passer – its more consistency with him and lacking a bit of bulk.

    Cabaye played 433 before he came here

  • 163 willgwent2k5 // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM

    hotdog would we have been relegated if he hadn’t of quit? so your telling me if your boss brought in employees without your knowledge you would quit your job? a normal working person wouldn’t!

  • 164 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:57 PM

    Tiote has been giving away his usual amount of needless free kicks and although I think he’s a quality player,sometimes he slows the game down so much and let’s the opposition get back behind the ball

  • 165 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:57 PM

    If KK was managing in this era then you would obviously have to scale the amount of money he would potentially have to spend to match inflation over the years, not to mention ridiculous foreign owners. I would imagine a Keegan team in today’s age would probably be akin to what Man City did in the first half of this season. I could defo see KK doing similar things.
    I still don’t rate him that much as an out and out coach though. People such as Wenger, Mourinho even Redknapp etc are far superior.

  • 166 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    Benry
    That’s a good shout, i was thinking the very same, he has some pace and engine.
    Are we all convinced Demba and Cisse can play together, didnt seem too hot in ACON?

  • 167 geordielad880 // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:59 PM

    in the summer i would sign andreas beck (rb) from hoffenheim, and jan vertonghen (cb) and a young improving striker, and move on harper, xisco, ameobi, lovo, and smith

  • 168 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:00 PM

    #162 if it made my job impossible to do then yes id leave and find another job

  • 169 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:00 PM

    I think Ba and Cisse is a powerful partnership, but they can’t do sh1t when our wingers have been brought in from madam tussauds. Jonas needs to be dropped to a full back position asap, and Obertan needs to be deported.

  • 170 Rob1971 // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    KK was right to leave 4 years ago as players were bought in above his head like xisco who was a big waste of money to the club, no manager would put up with that.

  • 171 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    Matt Phillips at Blackpool or Jordan Rhodes would be great signings for us, was gutted when Bolton sign Sordell, great young lad with plenty of pace

  • 172 wingspan // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    I HOPE TIOTE SCORES HIS PENO!

  • 173 catchy in norway // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:02 PM

    geordielad880 // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:48 PM

    honestly , fans like you must watch obertan with your eyes shut, and live in cooku land,

    think ov what a pro footballer does for a living, and then look at obertan, the only thing he can do is run fast without a ball,
    put a ball at his feet it becomes a bomb he dont want, he carnt run with it, he does a million step overs, he carnt cross, he never tracks back

    jonas is one of my fave players at the club, and this hurts me to say it, but the guy isnt up to what we need at this club at this time, i like him cos he puts 100% effort in every game, but as for an offensive contribution, he offers very little, only a little more than obertan, both carnt cross a ball

    we have ba up front, and now we can safely say he is a top prem striker, cisse, he has done it in germany in a poor team, but the prem is a new style for him, but on first impressions , the guy has what it takes to make it, what we need is proven providers, 2 good wingers we can get the ball out to so they can whip balls in for them, kind of like guthrie put in for cisses goal, notice the only good ball to come in was from our central midfielder, and not one of our so called wingers, there both starting to do my head in with how little we get out of them, at least jonas tracks back

  • 174 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:02 PM

    Benry

    Have you ever seen Jonas play full back???

    Not a pretty sight

  • 175 wingspan // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    Woops, sorry for caps.

  • 176 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    Its amazing how Obertan, Perch and the ameobis can get paid so much to play football. Truly boggles the mind.

  • 177 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    ooh aye and blame wise/jimenez for relegation simples

  • 178 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    KK is a legend lets just leave the memories alone eh

    Howay Ivory Coast! Drogba step up first and put ur mistake right! Tiote bring home a winners medal son!

  • 179 geordielad880 // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:04 PM

    magpiesflyhigh, cabaye is best in a 4-3-3, he has played in that formation most of his career, we watched him for ages, to see if we thought he could adapt to 4-4-2, i think tiote would play well in a 4-3-3, as a holding midfielder, just wish we had another top central midfielder, i still think if vuckic improved his work rate he could be the one

  • 180 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    Hope Tiote scores his pen but would love to see Zambia win, rank outsiders who were given no chance on winning

  • 181 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    KK the second coming was when the FCB really messed up – totally inexperienced in running a football club and no idea of people management either.
    KK was high maintenance as a manager.

    Glad FCB’s begun to redeem himself but it’s been a long time coming. Jury still out though

  • 182 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    #168 madam tussauds- Quality :-)

  • 183 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    COME ON TIOTE LION KING!!!! :)

  • 184 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    Come on Zambia. Sorry Cheick Tiote.

  • 185 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    GL880

    I still think Guthrie is the natural choice at present but with more of a DCM as an alternative – plenty of young uns coming through so you could be right

    Am with you on 4-3-3 right on

  • 186 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    Cheick Tiote is taking the first penalty!

  • 187 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    Wolves look crap right now I must add

  • 188 wingspan // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    What a guy stepping up first!

  • 189 hotdog // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    WWJB – I will im watchin the pens – drogba to miss another anyone!!

  • 190 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    Tiote scores.

  • 191 catchy in norway // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    i really do love the idea of you supporting all the players that play for us,, unfortunatly players come and go, some good and some bad, but i carnt support players i think are taken our club backwards not forwards,

    club first then players, pardew should also think like this, if he did, perch obertan would never get on the pitch

  • 192 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    JB

    Matty Philips would be one of my top picks….even above Hoilett who i rate highly. he can cover essentially the whole of the right flank and is just a beast

  • 193 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    Tiote bashed that in! Easy

  • 194 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    Tiote ;-)

  • 195 wingspan // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    Yes Boi!!!! God i love him.

  • 196 catchy in norway // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:10 PM

    good lad
    :)

  • 197 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:10 PM

    Cheick is the man

  • 198 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:11 PM

    Maty – I’ve watched Phillips a few times and seen him play as a winger and a striker and he’s a quality young player and he fit our transfer policy perfectly

  • 199 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    What a shocking call by the lines man

  • 200 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    Bad decision by the linesman

  • 201 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    That is actually disgusting keepers in the premiership do that every penalty literally every penalty.

  • 202 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    JB

    upwards of 10mil would still be a bargain for him….and about right if i’m quite honest

  • 203 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    catchy
    Thats football mate everyone rates players differently. Obertan should be used as a impact sub but at the beginning of the season we had no alternatives and Perch is our back up no one else in the squad offered a reasonably experienced CDM or CB

    Aye they arent starters but we arent goign to get another Tiote or Colo who is happy to sit on the bench

  • 204 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:14 PM

    He went a lill early but seen much much worse than that before.
    Keepers go early in the PL all the time.
    Is drogba gonna miss again?..

  • 205 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    Now I want Zambia to win

  • 206 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    anyone else hoping for a zambia win? always like the underdogs…

  • 207 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    Always supported the under dogs, thats why I’m a NUFC fan

  • 208 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    Great peno Drogba

  • 209 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    How cool was that pen

  • 210 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    im supporting Tiote! I don’t give a sh1t about Zambia lol

  • 211 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    Christ man on tender hooks COM ON IVORY COAST

  • 212 willgwent2k5 // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    kk was a legend as player and manager for this great club of ours, that is not in dispute. all he had to do is not pick xisco and nacho and let them rot in the reserves where they belong

  • 213 wingspan // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    Wow Tiote on the floor, he will be devastated if they loose.

  • 214 wingspan // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    Unbelievable penos so far. England take note!!!!!!lol

  • 215 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    England need to learn how to penalty’s like this. We really do.

  • 216 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    England need to watch these lot on how to take a PEN

  • 217 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    Bollocks

  • 218 shearer4pm // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    gervinho really doesnt wana take a pen haha

  • 219 catchy in norway // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    you see i see that very differently, obertan should never kick a ball for a our club again, he is that poor

    and as for perch, i dont dee him having a future at our club, abeid, thats his position, he should be cover, not perch

  • 220 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:22 PM

    jesus christ

    7-7?

    i’m only getting text updates!

  • 221 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:22 PM

    FFS!!!!

  • 222 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    Lool these Africans love taunting don’t they hahah

  • 223 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    WWJBD

    Backing a looser again mate :)

  • 224 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    catchy

    agree with you there about adeid

    would’ve been nice to at least see him ONCE like AP hinted towards so we could at least assess. intuition (or common sense) tells me he’s gotta offer something more than perch

  • 225 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    fkin toure!

  • 226 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    NOOOOOOOOOO! ZAMBIA!!!!

  • 227 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    YES!

  • 228 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    I knew gervinho would miss

  • 229 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    F**** HELL GERVINHO U SUCK

  • 230 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    catchy
    Abied has never played a competitive game until he came to us and has had 1 start? He is for the future thats why we signed him but Perch is far more experienced and less likely to let hs head drop against a force like Spurs or other PL standard teams

    Obertan I just disagree with ya he is only 22 and has a bucket load of skills but has no confidence also has a good work ethic. Not as bad as people say he is

  • 231 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    GERVINHO U SUCK

  • 232 Barras // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    YES! ZAMBIA!

  • 233 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:27 PM

    JB
    I am actually gutted for Tiote :(

  • 234 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    ZAMBIA!!!!!

    happy for them…..nobody thought they had a chance in hell, meanwhile they battled all the way to the end and got their reward. congrats!

  • 235 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    Catchy – Obertan is just 22 who’s confidence has been shot with his time at Man Utd and the fact that our own fans get on his back

  • 236 Benry // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    ffs

  • 237 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    Cant complain about Zambia though they were rank outsiders and its a hell of a effort for them to win this but I had to support Tiote

  • 238 Marty-Toon // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    Well deserved Zambia,well deserved.

  • 239 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    WWJBD

    I am as well mate, but to see a team like Zambia, a team who were given no chance at all, to go on and win is amazing.

    Tiote will have to take out his frustration on Carl Henry on Saturday now :)

  • 240 MagpiesFlyHigh // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    7-8 wow – after EIGHTEEN penalties

  • 241 ash1001 // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    Have watch a lot of the ACN matches, most I have turned off because players are just going through the motions, I seriously think somewhere along the line clubs should try whatever route possible to stop players from going.

    That IV team is full of PL players and look how they performed.

  • 242 jayphoto // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    So happy for Zambia! The ultimate underdog! Players who get £50 a month playing in Zambia league just beat the 100k a week ivorians! Its nice to see there is still beauty amongst the commercial world of football!

  • 243 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:32 PM

    JB
    Haha I hope so. Loved it when Henry didnt have Barton to go for so he turned his attention to Tiote didnt end well for him hahaha

  • 244 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    ash1001 – None of then just ‘Go through the motions’

    You obviously don’t now the amount of pride the African players have representing their countries

  • 245 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    JB and WWJBD

    Never condone booing one of your own players, under any circumstance. agree 100% with that

    but

    i was super excited when he came this summer. I kept faith as pardew kept faith, even him being put in when he clearly did not deserve to be. his talent is undoubted, his skill and execution are lacking woefully. yeah, he’s only 22, but with about a three-four year window, can he suddenly develop into a player with the directness top wingers possess? can he learn how to put a pass? brush up his touch?

    i sure hope so but the more and more i see him the more and more i realize why SAF got rid.

  • 246 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    ash1001
    So managers should try and stop sending players to the Euros as well then?

  • 247 Sav // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    Hard luck for Tiote but I agree, lets see him take it out not just on Henry but on every other team we play to the end of the season. Spurs are well beyond us right now but 4th spot is still there for the team that steps up the pace and grabs it.

  • 248 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    Matty – Well put it this way, if people keep slagging the guy at every turn he wont develop, give him the time that we would give to any other young lad that plays for us

  • 249 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    catchy
    We wont agree on Obertan I get u disagree with my opinion as u get that I disagree with urs but he will be with us for some time yet and he will have a impact in our seasons to come

    I will support him even if he scores 3 own goals in a 10-0 defeat at home to Sunderland but thats just how I am

  • 250 catchy in norway // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    guys
    how many weeks can you keep saying obertan has skill and the only thing he lacks is confidence, when week after week he shows no skill at all, other than a lollipop, he very rarely beeats his man, he very rarely tracks back to help rb, goes missing from the right wing on a regular bases ,

    confidence

    how from the first game has he not shown confidence, he was in a team winning or not losing, confidence grows normally when that happens, he just got worse

    i also dont agree with the kids being for the future, if he is in the squad, and he can offer more than others in that position, he should play, you dont play players that arnt as good just cos there older, thats just crazy,

    abeid, played for us in america on the pre season, and was one ov our better players, along with vuckic , hardly getting a luck in,

    thats why i dont rate pardew, he is gutless, and clueless at times,

    he sets his team up very strangely

  • 251 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    Sorry not catchy haha matty I meant sorry catchy lad

  • 252 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:38 PM

    Gutless and clueless at times but managing a team that are 6th

  • 253 catchy in norway // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    haha no worries,,

    we all have opinions on how our team should be run,

  • 254 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:40 PM

    catchy
    If Pardew was gutless he would of bowed to fan chants and dropped Obertan whilst playing HBA every game regardless of his impact

    Also if he was clueless we wouldnt be 6th in the league right now

  • 255 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    i’ll have to back catchy again. he puts in some hyperbole i try to veer away from but i agree on most everything

    and you’re right WWJBD, we wouldn’t be 6th

    i wholeheartedly think we could easily be fourth :) ….

  • 256 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    and to back my point, WWJBD, fulham second half capitulation. three points, we’d be fourth

    there are plenty more i can point to that I THINK were a direct result of AP’s tactics

  • 257 ash1001 // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:45 PM

    @WWJBD

    The Euros are not played in the middle of the football season,

    @JackButler

    Do you honestly thing the IV.s broke sweat in this tournament, or the PL stars in there team only Tiote and Gervinho seemed to give a damm, maybe I am wrong – could be.

  • 258 catchy in norway // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:45 PM

    JB

    yeh,

    iv seen to many games where i have no clue why he plays a high line against pacy teams

    iv carnt understand when he brings perch on when your getting beat and you should be going for a goal,

    i dont understand why against team in the bottom 5 play us of the pitch, and you can see why there there, cos they carn score goals, they create them much more than we do, with out ba, we would be in the bottom

    he makes subs to try and win games in the 80th min, when you can see he should have made them 15 min earlier,

    i dont understand how we have cabaye,tiote jonas in midfield and yet he gets the defence to lump the ball long knowing we have good ball players that he just by passes,,

    now im sure you have noticed all ov the above, now tell me we are there on merit, or just blind luck

  • 259 JackButler // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    ash1001 – African players care more for playing for their country than they do for their club side’s, their mentality is totally different to European players

  • 260 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    matty
    Fair point but a season is judged by 38 games not by 3 or 4 thats how I see it, I dont agree with everything Pards does but he has done wonders with this team that were widely touted for relegation

    ash1001
    U go play football in summer in Africa then lad…good luck to ya

  • 261 mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    catchy

    again, you’re on a roll. I unfurled a whole litany of the same earlier but no one wants to listen if they’re already compelled by their own beliefs, which is fine and understandably, because i think AP is not a great manager and no one but time and AP can change that

  • 262 catchy in norway // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    wwwjb, but thats my point, he is backing the player at the expence of the team,

    its a team game for sure, but you want your best players outr there, regardless of age,

    he seems to try and pick out our weak players as if to say im the boss, your not, trying to help them as indivduals, but not adding anything to the team, he is there for one reason, to help us win games, thats his job,

    if he wants to try and rebuild obertans confidence, he should take away from the first team, and send him to get prof help, as one thing is for sure, putting a guy out there week after week, will not fix him

  • 263 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    catchy
    We played Man Utd off the pitch and held Spurs to a draw when they had only failed to beat City prior to us. U cant just focus on the bad mate we have done some storming things this season

    And we dont just lump the ball forward to defend its a last ditch thing whilst defending we try to play the ball out when we have Tiote and Cabaye but if worst comes to worst what team wont just lump the ball forward to relieve pressure?

  • 264 WWJBD // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:54 PM

    catchy
    Backing the player at the expense of the team? No he isnt HBA is not Messi and is a widely understood selfish player and that type of play we cant allow right now. We dont have the players to allow for a player who is only around for 15-20 minutes in a game.

    Pardew goes into every game picking his best 11 to win a game

    And how can u say the youngsters are better than the team Pards picked? The coaches decide that and Pards most likely listens to everyone around him

  • 265 catchy in norway // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    mattyNUFC // Feb 12, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    the thing is, how carnt they see it, :( , i love nufc, and at times i do back them blindly, but sometime you have to sit and take in waht your watching, and right now, we are watching poor football, even though we do have good players

    i really want the best for my team,

  • 266 Rotonda heights // Feb 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM

    WWJBD

    with respect b….ks. Explain shola etc.

    benny creates more in 5 mins than people like Guti all season.




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