It’s Not Nice When It’s 5-0 – You Want To Turn The TV Off


I suppose we have our own ways of reacting to Newcastle when they leak goals with almost every attack from the opposition.

Ryan Taylor – after scoring great goal at Sunderland

It happened against Arsenal last February, and then again in the second half at Craven Cottage last month, and it happened in the first half on Saturday at White Hart Lane.

I started to shout instructions at the players on the TV, but my wife Madeline reminded me it probably wouldn’t do them much good – and it didn’t.

Some people turn the TV off, and that’s what my son Neil did when we were hammered in that second half at Fulham, and he wouldn’t have been the only Newcastle fan to have found it just too painful to watch.

Of course when we do well and win I love watching the games over again on TV, but when we get beat I never bother watching a replay of the game – never – funny that. 😀

It seems that Ryan Taylor had a hard job watching the game last Saturday too,  as he had this to say to the local press today:

“It’s not nice,” “You want to turn off but you feel like you can’t.”  “The boys are like family and you always want them to do well.”

“It’s not nice when it’s 5-0 and there’s nothing you can do about it.”  “Being injured is the worst part of football,” “I watched the game and I was disappointed with the result.”

“I felt for the boys because the effort was there but we caught Tottenham on a good day. With everything that went on with Harry it was always going to be tough.”

“To go 2-0 down in the first six minutes you’re more or less fighting a losing battle because Spurs at home don’t really concede many and with the players they have they’re always likely to score.”

“We gave ourselves a massive task and we just couldn’t do anything on the day.” “It’s the worst part of football when you’re injured and not able to do anything.”

“I’m sure the lads will want to bounce back against Wolves, especially in front of the home fans.”

There has to be a good reason why the Newcastle defense sometimes doesn’t seem to concentrate too well.

There was a reason against Arsenal a year ago, because the lads were still stunned that Andy Carroll had been allowed to leave the club just five days previously,  but what was the reason on Saturday?

It has to be lack of concentration, and surely that can be corrected?

The defense has been good, especially when Steven Taylor was in the back line earlier this season,  but we still need to bring in a top center-back and a top full back this summer, and they need to be players who will immediately challenge for a first team position.

Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa of Montpellier and Erik Pieters of PSV would be two players we’d love to see join Newcastle in the summer.

In our poll of four center-backs we’ve been linked with,  it seems that Yanga-Mbiwa tops the poll at the moment – with the poll still open:

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118 comments so far

  • jayphoto

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #1

    Lee clark just left huddersfield! Hoping he’s going to leeds! would hate it if he went to wolves and we had to take him out flat on his first game!

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  • toonincheek

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #2

    Have to confess – I didn’t watch the 2nd half.
    Well, it was something like 2.00am where I am.

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  • toonincheek

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #3

    Lee is a Geordie.
    He would have Wolves expecting the worst and be ready with a half time talk of “not to worry, lads, we’ll win the next one”.

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  • jayphoto

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #4

    hes not going to either, he’s been sacked because of poor league position and results…..theyre 4th, 2 points off 2nd place….. bit harsh

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  • Irie-Magpie

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #5

    Not if we have players in the defense that are only good enough, Saylor is and won;t be in the squad until next season so lets move on from that, don’t want to start the debate all over again but Simpson is just not good enough and his positioning is brutal (goal line clearance aside which he needed to do it’s is job).. May or may not be done but he needs to watch tapes of himself playing crap and try stopping players before they are in our 18/6yrad box.

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  • JackButler

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #6

    Last time I turned over was when we were 0-4 down the Arsenal, later checked the full time scores and realised I’d missed an amazing fight back

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  • JackButler

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #7

    Jay are you serious that they’ve sacked Clarke?

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  • GeordieCoaster

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #8

    Seems harsh on Clark to be sacked. They’ve only lost 3!

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  • jayphoto

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #9

    yeah sacked about an hour ago for poor performances, poor league position and bad results! very very harsh! Wonder if he’ll land the leeds job? he’s actually 4th favourite for wolves!

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  • hrocks

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #10

    would we take jigsaw in the backroom????

    i would like to think so or will it upset the apple cart to much. would he be willing to come?

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  • toonincheek

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #11

    Sounds like Huddersfield fans may be even more critical of their team than we are.

    Unlerss it is some other issue – that would be my reaction.

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  • Barras

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #12

    I went for Douglas on the poll. But I think we need to sign both him & M’Biwa this summer.

    RB – M’Biwa
    CB – Douglas
    CB – S.Taylor/Colocinni
    LB – Santon

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  • jayphoto

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #13

    barras – ive seen tompkins of west ham a few times this season, reckon hes gonna be class! Future england centre half, if we could get him in the summer for under 5m we’d be crazy not too!

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  • Barras

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #14

    @Jayphoto

    Good news! We might possibly need 3 defenders if Colocinni doesn’t sign a contract extension. You want to check Douglas out, he’s such a strong defender.

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  • VanToonMan

    Feb 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #15

    Pieters and M’biwa for me. We need a left-sided defender in the squad. And them two along with santon are very versatile. M’biwa can play RB or CB….Pieters LB or CB and Santon LB or RB. Would make our defense much more solid and would cost in total about £10-£12 million tops

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  • wynsleap

    Feb 15, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #16

    Clarkie would make a great coach/manager for this £15million youth academy Ash is allegedly going to set up.

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  • VanToonMan

    Feb 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #17

    Tomkins was part of a team that got relegated…how good is he actually?

    I have not seen him this season but i remember seeing him last season for west ham and they were shipping goals left right and centre…even with scotty parker tracking back too!…I would prefer to go for Pieters and M’biwa or Douglas over Tomkins. Plus his price will be inflated because he’s British.

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  • jayphoto

    Feb 15, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #18

    tomkins is very good! he was only 21 when they were relegated which is very young for a centre half! He reminds me a bit of woodgate, intelligent, good with the ball! West ham have played him as a holding midfielder a few times this year and he’s looked good there too!

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  • Scottishtoon95

    Feb 15, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #19

    20Munster mag – last article – finally someone standing up for jonas getting really annoyed with people slagging him off and taking him out of their team sheets (sometimes not even on their sub bench) its ridiculous. The man must be the hardest worker in the PL, he provides skill and flair which many have complained about the club not having, he is critisised for loosing the ball too often but I think you’ll find that the majority of the team he gets past his man (sometimes two or three men somehow) whilst retaining the ball and is fouled numerous times giving us vital freekicks. Also if you say “he doesn’t have any end-product” he was the one who sent in the brilliant cross to Cissé against villa, he’s sent in countless important passes and crosses that have led to goals, so focus on what he does do instead of condemning him when he’s knackered from running for 90 minutes or for not sending in a pin point pass every time which few can actually do. Rant over.

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  • gaz 44

    Feb 15, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #20

    don’t know much bout foreign football but what i have sakho looks a great cb n is young..

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  • Barras

    Feb 15, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #21

    @Gaz 44

    I really don’t think we could afford Sakho. He’s one of those type of players which has alerted the whole of Europe. So if he leaves his current club, (PSG I think? – Who are ridiculously rich) it will be for a Champions League team and for a lot of money.

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  • jayphoto

    Feb 15, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #22

    they want 40m for sakho! can’t remember where he’s being consistantly linked with, poss Madrid

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  • gaz 44

    Feb 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #23

    thought there must b a reason no one mentioned him..ill just hope he’s got a cabaye like cause inbthere lol

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  • WWJBD

    Feb 15, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #24

    Huddersfield sacking Clark is insane! They have lost 3 of their last 55 games under him….deserves a crack at a higher leveled club imo

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  • Dannyo

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #25

    @WWJBD
    Could almost say it’s similar to Hughton, but no quite tbh.
    Clark has had an even bigger success with Huddersfield tbh, and it’s quite a feat what he’s been able to do. Huddersfield is also 3rd for promo, so this is just silly bussiness…
    For Hughton they had a vague explanation, this is not even vague, it’s ridicoulus.

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  • wingspan

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #26

    Some body told me a few articles bk to “wake up” because i said we wont be signing tomkins because hes just signed a new contract at west ham and used Andy Carroll as an example of contracts not meaning anythin.

    Lets get this right we sold Andy because it was a stupidly high offer that we couldnt turn down. Now do you see us doing that for tomkins??? Paying well over the odds for a player. No way!! So we wont buy him in the summer, absolutely no chance so theres no point in even talking about him.

    And another gripe, not saying that the guys bad or good ive never seen him play, But people saying this Diouglas fella straight into the starting line up and having to choose between Colo or Saylor as a partner are mental!! Colo and steven are the best CB duo weve had for many a yr (how many goals did we conceed at the start of the season?) And to say a guy thats never played in the prem is instantluy better than them both need a reality check im afraid.

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  • WWJBD

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #27

    Dannyo
    Yeah mate there are certainly some similarities though atleast as a PL team we could attract a decent level of replacement for a league 1 promotion pusher who are they going to be able to get? I just dont get it surely there must be more to the story than this

    And reading the BBC article on it the way he was sacked is uncalled for and disgusting imo

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  • catchy in norway

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #28

    WWJBD // Feb 15, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    id have him here me:) i thought with what he had, he did an amazing job, i think its more than the results that got him the sack,

    munster mag

    im not here to try and start a fight, , and i know you slag me off every time i comment, but i think you have got the whole HBA thing wrong, not one of uf so called neggers have said he is the greatest, or that he never loses the ball,
    what we are saying about him if you put these 5 players in a some sort of order of what you wanted them to do and then who accually achieves it , i think HBA would be top
    take shola obertan best jonas and hba

    all forwards of some sort playing on the wing or up front

    right work rate
    1 jonas
    2HBA
    3best
    4obertan
    5 shola

    scoring goals
    1 HBA
    2 best
    3jonas
    4 shola
    5 obertan

    tracking back

    1 jonas
    2HBA
    3best
    4 obertan
    5 shola

    creating chances

    1 HBA
    2 jonas
    3 best
    4obertan
    5shola

    thats only my take on what iv seen this season, and out of all the games played HBA has played the least, and yet in those few games he has played he has created and scored mre than the others, on that alone he should be in the team

    i also remember an interview with john beresford , he said about having ginola in front of him, he wasnt botherd that that he didnt get help of him because what he gave the team in an attacking point was way more than they got out of trying to defend

    and on the jonas argument, he is my fave player in a black and white shirt right now, but football is a result business, the more chances we create the better the chance we have of winning, and thats from both sides right and left, now we have cisse, 2 good goal scores, hmmm no service

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  • WWJBD

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #29

    wingspan
    I would tend to agree that we wont be getting Tomkins unless there is some release clause (ie if they dont get promoted he will be avaliable for 5 mill etc)
    As for Douglas I have seen him play once or twice (by no means a expert on him) and he is a beast but I do agree if we got him he would have to earn his spot but then Saylor needs to prove he can finally stay fit as well and Colo needs to sign a contract so neither are nailed on to be our back 2 pairing (again just my opinion)

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  • WWJBD

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #30

    catchy
    Fully agree has to be more to the story, just like Hughton. And I would have him here give him the shiny new youth development thats meant to be getting set up I think he would do wonders with our youth squad if given the backing to do so then maybe even have him take over from Pards in the future

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  • JackButler

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #31

    Clarke was sacked during a two minuet phone conversation, said to be taking the club on for unfair dismissal, hope he lands himself a top job along with Terry Mac who has also been sacked

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  • JackButler

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #32

    Fegie could be going on loan to West Ham for the rest of the season

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  • VanToonMan

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #33

    On the new cantre back topic….what about Stephane M’Bia…he is a solid player. And also Yann M’vila as a defensive midfielder….imagine him partnering Tiote…we could play a 4-2-3-1…..with M’vila and Tiote….then Ba-Cabaye-Ben Arfa….and Cisse up top.

    We’d be solid!

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  • WWJBD

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #34

    JB
    This week is a write off in footballing terms for me! We get humped 5-0, MM gets sacked, Pompey and Rangers in administration, Clark gets sacked via phone call and now Fergy might be going to West Ham on loan! (Nothing really against the hammers but they are a SA side and I dont think that will aid in Fergys silky development…might learn how to stick a cross in though if he is ever able to get the ball)

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  • VanToonMan

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #35

    ….IF we qualify in 4th place….is this team too much to hope for?:

    Krul
    Santon M’Bia Collo Pieters

    Tiote Y. M’vila

    HBA Cabaye Ba

    Cisse

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  • JackButler

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #36

    WWJBD

    I’m against any of our players going to West Ham to learn how to play Sam’s anti football style of play, I would rather see him go to Brighton where they try to play football.

    Have to admit I’m no fan of the Hammers after the way they treated Roader when we went there and I’m even less of a fan of Sam Allardyce

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  • catchy in norway

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #37

    right now i think there is a good enough shout for the lad to be playing premieship football right now,

    of the 3 natural ful backs we have simpson is the weakest,

    santon naturally right footed

    fergy naturally left footet

    both have good engines, both can put crosses in, both are quick

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  • VanToonMan

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #38

    Fergy is not strong enough physically and defensively to be playing at LB in the premier league for us this season.

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  • JackButler

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #39

    catchy – After watching Fergie playing at left back and left midfield I think the lad’s ability would be wasted as a defender

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  • mattyNUFC

    Feb 15, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #40

    pardew for england!

    clark to come home!

    AP doesn’t get the sack and no one calls for his head and we get a steward of better football! win-win from a non-Englishman’s perspective 🙂

    In seriousness though, shame Clark was sacked and at this time. Don’t want him to settle into a new challenge. Kind’ve felt like huddersfield were keeping him in wraps for us

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