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Will Coloccini Stay Long Term At Newcastle?

10:20 am, Friday, February 17th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 52 Comments

Fabricio Coloccini did not have a  good game last time out at Spurs.

Fabricio Coloccini – Newcastle captain

But if Fabricio is like he’s been in the past on Tyneside, he’ll come back with some strong and solid games for Newcastle, and we need him to do just that.

Coloccini took time to settle in at Newcastle when he arrived from Deportivo in the summer of 2008, when Kevin Keegan was manager, but he  didn’t have a good first season at the club, and of course we were relegated.

But since then he’s done just great, and was huge for Newcastle in the promotion season and last season too, and has become one of the most popular players on Tyneside.

And Alan Pardew rewarded him with the Newcastle captaincy,  once Kevin Nolan elected to join West Ham and play in the Championship this season.

Newcastle are trying to nail Fabricio down to a new long term deal on Tyneside, but have so far not yet been successful in doing that, for whatever reason.

And we have to hope that Fabricio doesn’t go the way of  Joey Barton and Kevin Nolan, when they just couldn’t reach any agreement on a contract and both left the club last summer.

Coloccini is a popular player at the club, and he is a very popular captain, and Ryan Taylor talked about the Argentine yesterday while he was at the Newburn Leisure Center.

Ryan Taylor with some of the Newcastle kids yesterday

Ryan and Danny Guthrie have been working with the kids as part of the NUFC Foundation during the half-term break, and this is what he had to say about Colo:

“Colo deserves the captain’s armband he’s got now,” “I think when he first came he found it tough, but to come from where he has to where he is now is brilliant.”

“He has settled in now and hopefully he will stay at the club for a long time. Colo’s come a long way and he deserves that captain’s armband.”

There was talk of delaying Coloccini’s contract talks until the summer, along with those of the two Dannys – Simpson and Guthrie.

But that doesn’t sound good to us, and why do Newcastle have so much trouble closing contracts with their existing players who they want to keep on Tyneside?

Maybe it’s got something to do with the contracts being so incentives-based.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Fabricio Coloccini · Newcastle News · Ryan Taylor





52 responses so far ↓

  • 1 GeordieToon89 // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:24 AM

    A personally think he’s away at the end of the season and a also think Vertonghen is his replacement..think we’ll be getting Vertonghen then Douglas or Mbiwa

  • 2 Made a ma beed // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    He may have an injury still, his last few games he has been poor by his standards.

  • 3 cyprus // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    Colo does his talking with his football and full-blooded commitment and I admire him for that. Still, I also like the captains who fire the players up with their talk and encouragement of others on the field, especially when things aren’t working. This visibly lifts the players and puts the fear of god in the opposition. Recently saw the Arsenal turnaround game and was impressed by Joey-Nolan doing just that. AP stood on the sidelines, bemused at what was happening on the field. Perhaps it was his ‘inspiring half-time talk’ but that is just folklore. No player has ever talked about it.

  • 4 martoon // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    Ed you should read comments on your own blogs. A few of us are guessing the sticking point on Colo’s contract is probably length because he is now 30. If we gave him, say, a 5 year contact at 80k per week then in a few years time he could become another Alan Smith. As for Danny Simpson I would guess he is asking for more than the club think he is worth!

  • 5 sirtoongospel // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    Colo has been here for 4 years, but it’s up to him at the end of the day. We are higher than we have ever been in his stay here, and could easily be in Europe next season………if Colo and others play at the top of their form. One or two have dropped off the pace a bit, but hopefully the break, coupled with the return of our CM pair, will see us kick on again. We win the next two games and the place will be buzzing. I have to remember though that we haven’t played anyone yet….. ;)

  • 6 cyprus // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Martoon,
    On the Simpson issue, you, Ed and I have no idea on what he’s on. It’s possible his demands are reasonable since, whether fans like him or not, he has nailed down that position. So, getting worked up on conjecture isn’t fair to him.

  • 7 spitfire_ // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    Colo will be sold in summer. I just don’t see how Ashley will give him at least 60k per week until he became 35. And will be at least 60k if Colo decide to reduce his wage. After last night I don’t mind Colo’s depature but only if we bought Vertonghen and Douglas for free. I’m convinced that if Colo goest the situation it will be like after Enrique, Carroll and Nolan departures – a lot of rage but it will be forgoten very soon without any regret.

  • 8 sirtoongospel // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    By the way, if we need a new captain next season, although Saylor would be great he is a bit injury prone. I would give it to Cheick. He epitomises everything that is good about us.

    Plus every other opposition player is scared sh**less of him!!!

  • 9 cyprus // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Spitfire,
    Can you buy something for free? Isn’t that an oxymoron? ;)

  • 10 Beattie25 // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Out of all our many problems/issues this one concerns me the least!

    Alongside saylor colo looked world class. Along side Willo he looks average at best!

    Sell a 30 cb for 10 million and bring in a hungry, fast and quality replacement (m’bwia) and make saylor captain.

  • 11 Beattie25 // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    *30 yr old

  • 12 catchy in norway // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    interesting stat

    in every game we have lost, we have conceded 3 or more goals in that game

    our list of goal assists for this season
    1 Yohan Cabaye 4
    2 Ryan Taylor 3
    3 Demba Ba 3
    4 Shoala Ameobi 3
    5 Leon Best 2
    6 Gabriel Obertan 2
    7 Jonas Gutierrez 2
    8 Cheick Ismael Tiote 2
    9 Hatem Ben Arfa 2
    10 Steven Taylor 1
    11 Peter Lovenkrands 1
    12 Sylvain Marveaux 1

    kind of make you wonder is there a point of us playing with wingers,

  • 13 catchy in norway // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    cyprus // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    haha now didnt lambass say this season that free player where expensive???

  • 14 catchy in norway // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Beattie25 // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    my only problem with that is saylor gets injured alot and his injuries are always serious ones that take months :(

  • 15 derekm // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    Nolan and Barton both thought they could expect to be here until their mid thirties – sorry Colo if I were you I’d take what’s on the table, same for you Simmo, Ashley won’t be mucked about by agents, he’s learned his mistakes from listening to the people he turned to in the early days of his ownership, and look where that got him!

  • 16 GeordieToon89 // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    If we need a new captain next season then Taylor has to be captain.. Cheick will be away if we dont get europe and also a dont even think he speaks english very well and he also looks very quiet on the pitch although hes a good battler

  • 17 dez // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    I dont think Colocinni will go to another premier league club if he leaves

  • 18 Klatoon // Feb 17, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Not if he has to play alongside Williamson

  • 19 Beattie25 // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    @ catchy

    Players get injured! But it’s what they do when they are injured that’s important.

    A good vice captain (Tiote) is all we need

  • 20 John // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    he will be off alrite in the summer it would be a shocker to say the least if MA wer to sign up a 30 year old player on a 5year deal at 50/60k a week captain or no captain thats a mighty big risk we all know how over 30year old PL players pick injuries easier and lets face it they become very comfortable picking up their bumper pay packet in the hay day of their careers. Alan Smith, Michael Owen, Mark Viduka to name a few.

  • 21 martoon // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    cyprus @6. I am not getting ‘worked up on conjecture’ I am simply giving my opinion on one of the questions that was posed by Ed in his blog. Is that not the point the comment section?

  • 22 cyprus // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Players get injured but Taylor does that a lot. In fact we can’t base our defence on him at all. It’s like when we tried to shape a team around Dyer and then Owen.

  • 23 JackButler // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    I’d be very surprised that after staying with us then we were relegated that he’d now decide to leave when were are close to a European spot

  • 24 cyprus // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Of course Martoon, no offence implied. Never have done that on the blog, never will. I appreciate other opinions even if I totally disagree, as long as name-calling is avoided.

  • 25 martoon // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Cyprus @24 None taken – Totally agree about the name calling – it is pathetic. It’s been worse this week – probably because it is half term.

  • 26 cyprus // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Catchy,
    interesting stats where did you get them? Or have you been counting? :) Didn’t Simpson provide an assist, a cross vs Wolves or something?

  • 27 spitfire_ // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    @ cyprus

    Don’t make yourself funny… you know what I mean… I guess.

  • 28 jayphoto // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    I don’t know why, I’ve just got this vision of Collo moving to Liverpool, feels very similar to the enrique debacle of last season

  • 29 catchy in norway // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    cyprus

    http://www.statbunker.com/football/btb/index.php?PL=team&TeamID=16&statType=assist&CompID=373

  • 30 summesam // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    I believe the problem is that the players who has to sign new contracts, were signed during the “pay over the odds” time, (the beginning of Ashleys regime). But now Mike Ashleys uses his tightbudget and it simply doesn’t work for the players who was signed long time ago.

  • 31 JackButler // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    What we need to keep in mind with Colo is that with his age this next deal could be his last big pay day, so it needs to be right for him and thats why he’s playing hard ball over it.

    As for him joining the Bin Dippers, things are not exactly working out there for our two former players.

  • 32 jayphoto // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    thought vertonghan looked very good against man utd last night! As did Alderweireld! I think we’ll see 2 top centre halves come in in the summer and expect collo to leave! If he goes I would make Cabaye captain, he was cptn at a championship winning Lille team! Really expect with Smith, Lovenkrands, possibly xisco, Ranger (and poss collo) off the wage bill for us to bring in a fair few players

  • 33 catchy in norway // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    in some ways i can understand the players wanting to leave, there not here cos they love the club, its only money there here for,

    if you take ars liverpool man u and chelsea out of the equasion ( because there in london or win things ) the rest of us in the prem only get good players if we pay over the odds for them,

    the top clubs win more and pay more, thats why players are prepaird to sit on benches and collect trophies and money,

  • 34 jayphoto // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    think things are working out for enrique quite well at liverpool! He’s regarded as the best left back in the league now, he never got the credit or plaudits when he played for us, it seemed only toon fans knew how good he was, since he went to liverpool every1 has realised and hes close to a spanish call up (del bosque actually went to anfield, he never came to st james park)

  • 35 catchy in norway // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    another point you should look at is the players we have right now getting bigger pay deals

    cabaye
    krul
    ba

    just 3 attrakting lots of attention, ashley isnt stupid, new longer contracts with higher pay for his better players, means bigger payday when he sells them

  • 36 Jamesthefirst // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Criticising Colo? Are you mad??

    He was everywhere in the Spurs game. He covered left back, right back, for Williamson. He did everything to try and stop them, when all the other defenders were constantly out of position. How many times did Santon and Simpson go missing? LOADS.

    Colo was playing as the entire back 4 on his own at times. Brilliant captain and the club would be crazy to let him leave.

  • 37 cyprus // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    Don’t you have to be bald to be a Liverpool CB? Colo would need an enormous pay rise to chop his mop.

  • 38 ballerfan2 // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    Don’t you think that there is a connection between Collo’s recent patchy form and the people around him. Collo intelligent reading of the game while lacking real pace seemed to dovetail with Saylor’s game extremely effectively. There seemed to be a mutual understanding and trust. With Willo his defensive partner, Collo’s awareness has resulted in him not only covering for any potential Willo failing but also for any breach caused by Tiote’s absence. His continuous attempts to take responsibility to cover all bases has led to him being caught too often out of position. I am confident that with the return of Tiote – and hopefully with the acquisition of a more mobile defensive partner – Collo will be back to his imperious form of the early season.

  • 39 dez // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    I think when Colo does eventually leave he will go to Spain or even back to Argentina

    I might be wrong but, I just dont see him going to another Premier League Club

  • 40 catchy in norway // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    Jamesthefirst // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    thats what i seen too, but i think we have some on this blog who look and see the result and say he played poorly, then they will say look at the table we are 6th, i really dont think some watch the matchs and see what some players really offer,
    the sayyy ooooo look at him he is fast , he must be good,
    or they listen to comentators who normally dont like us and pull our players to bits and agree with them

  • 41 JackButler // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    jayphoto – Things may be working out for Jose himself but the club have been on self destruct since Dogleash took over, over 100mil spent in the past 12 months and they are behind us in the league

  • 42 jayphoto // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    collos immense! really hope he stays and signs because he is a player with the intelligence to play a high level till he is 34/35! Great awareness and positioning! If he leaves though the club will move on, always does!

  • 43 jayphoto // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    jackblutler – theyre not far behind us though! I’m thrilled we’re in 6th at the moment but i’ve watched enough football to know liverpool have a better side than us currently! They’ve dominated alot of games and been unlucky whereas we’ve been dominated and got lucky! I think we’ll finish 7th and I’ll be thrilled with that, gives us a great platform to move onto next season and most likely european football!

  • 44 JackButler // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    jayphoto – Agree mate, but when you look at what we’ve spent and what they’ve spent you’d expect them to be further ahead regarding their league position.

    At the start of the season I thought we could take 9th in the league so anything above that is a massive bonus as far as I’m concerned

  • 45 cyprus // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    Jayphoto,
    The club hasn’t always moved on when key players have left, in fact it’s rare (e.g.s of going backward: Ginola, Cole, Bellamy, Milner). We just don’t have that kind of luxury like, say, Spurs have. Even teams like Arsenal have suffered from losing such individuals (e.g. Adebayor, Fabregas, Nasri). NUFC have been on the brink of glory only to lose key players to bigger clubs. I’m not implying this is exactly the case regarding Colo…

  • 46 JackButler // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    This was always going to happen

    http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/local-news/fans_daub_graffiti_at_newcastle_united_s_ground_1_4259164

  • 47 JackButler // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/9088393/St-James-graffiti-on-Newcastle-Uniteds-ground-in-protest-at-St-James-Park-sign-removal-for-Sports-Direct-logo.html?

  • 48 jayphoto // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    @jackbutler – yeah for what they’ve spent they should be up with Man City and Man Utd! Not sure if its dalglish or Comolli who buys the players but they should be answering questions! Carroll shouldn’t have been worth more than 12m, Henderson and downing less than that! He spent 80m on 2 players that should have cost 20m! Saying that, who’s surprised? every toon fan i bet warned any liverpool fans that would listen what dalglish did to our club! My bro is a big liverpool fan (black sheep and all but fair play, he goes to most games) and he can’t believe they let aquilani leave on loan when he wanted to stay and play! Reckons dalglish favours certain younger players such as shelvey and spearing and is forcing better young players out like suso and ayala by not giving them the chances the english lads are getting

  • 49 martoon // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    catchy in norway @12 Interesting stats them. Another amazing fact that is that since the club was formed in 1892 is that in every match we have lost we have conceded at least one goal ;-)

  • 50 jayphoto // Feb 17, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    martoon – thats strange, might be a coincidence but everytime we’ve won we’ve scored at least won goal aswell! :-)

  • 51 geoff777 // Feb 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    Colo’s anticipation and positioning means he’s a quality CB.

    There are already signs that he’s losing pace.

    Do we want another Alan Smith on our books in three years time?

    A five year contract is crazy.
    Three max.

  • 52 theleckworthbird // Feb 17, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    Yes a long term contract on current wages is crazy, but don’t forget that if he is looking for another club to come up with the same, he will be disappointed – unless it’s looney spending Liverpool of course.




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