Newcastle Will Try For Top Four Next Season


Bobby Moncur has talked well of both Danny Guthrie and James Perch today.

Bobby Moncur – his comments are always sensible

Since we lost Tiote and Ba to the African Cup of Nations after the Manchester United game, the only time we really missed our African players were in the two games in London, when we were hammered 5-2 at Fulham and 5-0 last Saturday at White Hart Lane.

And of course Ba and Cisse played in the game last Saturday.

The only other time we lost a game was in the FA Cup,  but there was no way we should have lost at Brighton, and we’ll put that down to bad luck.

And in the other four games we won – against Blackburn in the FA Cup and then against QPR, Blackburn and Aston Villa in the league, although for the Villa game we did have Ba and Cisse playing, and they scored two excellent goals.

And we had the added difficulty of losing Yohan Cabaye for the last three games, and that hasn’t helped much either.

In the games that Cheick Tiote has been away we won four and lost three – and that was since the demolition of Manchester United at St. James’ Park by a score of 3-0 – I get that one in whenever I can – you may have noticed that. 😀

Bobby Moncur has thought the lads who have come in have done well, and we agree with Bobby on that.

This is what the former Newcastle captain said today:

“It’s great that Tiote and Cabaye are back.” “But I think it’s unfair to say that United have missed them badly.”

“Most of the results while they’ve been out have been good, and Danny Guthrie and James Perch were tremendous against Blackburn and Aston Villa.”

“Tiote and Cabaye are probably first-choice when they’re available, they’re key players.” “Against a top, top side like Tottenham, you can probably get away with being without one.”

“Two is a different matter.” “But you can’t blame Guthrie and Perch, that was just one of those days.”

“They’re important parts of the squad and it would be disrespectful to them to suggest that United have struggled without the so-called bigger names.“

Moncur’s comments are always sensible and he makes some good points, but of course he was a hugely experienced player and a great Newcastle captain and center-back in his day.

We do think both Danny Guthrie and James Perch did themselves no harm while playing for Newcastle while the African stars and Cabaye were out.

And James Perch amazed some of us with his excellent performances at Brighton, Blackburn and at home to Aston Villa, and he’s come good this season – and that’s to his great credit.

Newcastle need more players like Guthrie and Perch in the squad,  who can come into the side and get the job done while the bigger names are out for whatever reason, and it’s well done to Perch and Guthrie for doing that.

It’s very hard to blame the two of them for the debacle at Spurs last week, because some of our big name players were just hopeless in that game.

If Newcastle can bring in some good players this summer to replace those who will leave – like Peter Lovenkrands, Alan Smith, Tamas Kadar, Xisco (we hope), Fraser Forster, Steve Harper and Nile Ranger –  then we could even have a top four side next season.

Maybe the more accurate way of putting that is we’ll try for a top four position next season.

If Newcastle can retain their high position in the league and finish in 6th place or even 7th  in mid-May  – then the goal in the summer is to improve the squad,  so that we can challenge for a top four position next season.

We’re sure that’s exactly what Alan Pardew and Mike Ashley are thinking.

But of  course first of all we have to finish high up in the league this season,  over the final 13 games,  that’s the immediate test – and yes, we still have to keep our feet on the ground.

But if Newcastle keep up the progress they have shown over the last 12 months,  a top four finish is not beyond the realm of possibility next season.

Some would say we could be a top four side this season. 😀

Howay The Lads!!

Comments welcome.


281 comments so far

  • GeordieToon89

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #1

    This is the team I would play against Wolves but I know Pardew(mr negative) wont play it 🙁

    ———–Krul
    Simo-Wilo-Colo-Santon
    ———–Tiote
    —-Cabaye—Guthrie
    ———Ben Arfa
    ——-Cisse—-Ba

    Ben Arfa being behind the front two but also having a free role to go down the wings aswell, Cabaye and Guthrie will provide the passing and through balls for Benny/Ba and Cisse to latch onto and get the chances and goals while Tiote sits and holds infront of the defence… this formation imo gives the best out of the players weve got especially against a team like Wolves who we should be going out and attacking and scoring goals we need to start scoring and not conceding

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  • mickeytoon

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #2

    Why next season. Got a slim chance of it now

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  • JackButler

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #3

    With three or four shrewd signings we could challenge for top 5/6 next season. I expect Arsenal and Liverpool to be far stronger next season and a lot will depend on if Harry stays or who replaces him so top four could be expecting a bit much

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  • Spuggy

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #4

    I’d be surprised if some of these keyboard warriors who regularly post on here knew who Sir Bobby Robson was.

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  • MacToon

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #5

    “it would be disrespectful to them to suggest that United have struggled without the so-called bigger names.“

    So we didn’t struggle against Spurs without our “so called bigger names”!

    Howay Bobby come clean, I’m not joking here btw but have you taken a job with NUFC promoting the corporate hospitality?

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  • JackButler

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #6

    Chelsea fan signing Jose Mourinho’s name while the Birmingham fans are chanting ‘your getting sacked in the morning’ hahaha

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  • pbNcl

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #7

    we have a strange situation here now, the newcastle we all love has been hijacked by a fatman who owns a discount sports shop. and while he is delivering a new look newcastle united on a sound business model, he is trampling all over our history and he shows us no respect. He has stolen our club. he may deliver the premier league title, but I must say my friends I am a very proud geordie and I would rather have our self respect than ritches. He is a traitor/occupying force in our territory. And to all the people who believe he owns the club cos he bought it get real. He will come and go but the club will remain, it is OUR club, the GEORDIES club

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  • geordiestan92

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #8

    This year will be our best chance to break into the top four, as Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool have all had poor seasons upto now and will surely do better next year meaning we would have to strengthen massively in the summer to compete.

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  • GeordieToon89

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #9

    Jack – Arsenal will be worse next season imo.. a think yes Wilshere will be back but im 95% certain Van Persie will be away at the end of the season if they dont win the FA cup and especially if they dont get into Champ league

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  • RobertLeeNo.7

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #10

    HAhahah keyboard warriors!!!

    Think talking about top 4 challengers next season is very premature it is after all Newcastle United anything could happen to hinder us challenging for top 10 next season

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  • pbNcl

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #11

    I hope Sir Bobby pulls some strings up there, cos were gonna need an act of God to save our club. He can win whatever he wants with it but that aint no victory if it’s sports direct united

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  • JackButler

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #12

    GT89 – The point I was trying to make was that the clubs around us, the Liverpool’s, Chelsea’s, Spur’s and Arsenal all are bigger draws for signing players at the moment and all have far superior financial strength, plus they could offer Champions League football depending on the last run of games.
    Arsenal could have the like’s of Jose Mourinho at the helm next season.
    I still think that we are exceeding what was expected this season and I see next season as one where we strengthen to solidify a top 6 place in the league

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #13

    Top 4? Even if we finish 6th this season, doesn’t mean we are actually a geniune top 6 side. We have been incredibily lucky and i don’t think we can have this sort of luck next season. We should just focus on trying to finish 6th for the next 2 season and Pardew still has plenty to learn. We are long way off being a top 6 side now. Top 4 talk is a joke.

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  • thai-mag

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #14

    another toon blog is saying cisse and ba will miss wolves game to play in friendly with south africa, anybody know if its true

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #15

    Mac

    Moncur also defended the renaming of St James’ back last year as well 😐 It’s a strange one

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  • MacToon

    Feb 18, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #16

    TDS, I actually know the answer to the question and heard last November/December.

    Obviously any employee of Ashley has tainted views as we know what happens to his employee’s who don’t follow the company line.

    I’ve always liked Bob Moncur and chatted with him on a few occasions, he has his reasons to do what he does but I wish he’d come clean if he is being paid by Ashley 😉

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  • pbNcl

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #17

    for the sake of £10-15m a year, its a joke. Ronaldo went to spain for 80m, money in football in silly, fair enough. Than the fatman should realise that St James’ is worth more than money. Not only was he aware of the importance, significance and respect that name carried, and not only did he choose to ignore that and the wishes of the council, whole city and the fans, but he insulted us all in doing so and thinks itll all be alright and expects us to forgive and forget about it. NOT IN A HUNDRED YEARS FATMAN

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  • Ollie666

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #18

    krul
    simmo Colo willo santon
    tiote
    cabaye guthrie
    benarfa
    cisse ba

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  • GeordieCoaster

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #19

    @taimag Ba is not picked for the friendly match so he won’t be going. Cisse is. It’s between the Wolves and the scum match.

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  • MacToon

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #20

    pbNcl, it wont be any where near £10 million a year!

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  • pbNcl

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #21

    I hope your joking cos that’s just actually inconceivable. How can somebody with so much wealth be so mind numbingly daft

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  • gaz 44

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #22

    lets say we get 5mill a yr for renaming rights… don’t think for one minute important defending it but at the end of the day anyone who know anything about the club n cares it will brought st.. james but if that brought a decent player in its worth it in my opinion… i know your not always gonna find a tiote or a cabaye but if you look at our team the only two starters brought in for more than 5million was collo n cisse

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  • gaz 44

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #23

    supposed to say anyone who cares will know it as st.James… boy brought st.James

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  • MacToon

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #24

    No I’m not joking.

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  • MacToon

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #25

    £2-3 mil a year would be realistic (or maybe optimistic considering what sports cruddy tat shop pay us) valuation imho.

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  • pbNcl

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #26

    you cant say you would swap the name St James’ for a player like santon, shall we say. Could you imagine this anywhere else, would fergie swap the name old trafford for a tiote? I dont think so. You cant even buy a decent fishing boat for 5m

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  • JackButler

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #27

    The naming right’s if it stays as SDA will be worth nothing to the club and quiet a few quid to Ashley’s personal wealth

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  • pbNcl

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #28

    anybody think fatman would do this at tottenham?

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  • Beattie25

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #29

    I think the selling of the naming rights is a great idea!

    With the extra 2 million per year we would able to afford more quality players like Perch, Simpson and Best.

    Role on the good times!

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  • MacToon

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #30

    😆 Beattie

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  • gaz 44

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #31

    don’t know why people r so riled with this again .. i know they just took the sign down but it annoys me more the way sports direct is plastered everywhere but i ain’t gonna moan cos the way the team play is what concerns me most… n at the minute a point off fourth i ain’t complaining.

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  • Neun78

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #32

    hello, this year its our chance to get champions league, do you really think chelsea,arsenal and liverpool beeing this bad next year???
    no i think this year its our chance to get cl.

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  • Beattie25

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #33

    There goes Gaz the epitome of our club at the moment!

    Settling for second rate players, performances and ownership!

    Why don’t you just agree with the rise in taxes and levels of unemployment whilst your at it.

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  • Tsunki

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #34

    Ilovetoon @12 – who are the 6 teams better than us? Are you certain there are no more decent signings to be made this summer? Are you positive that we will not have a better team next term? that should start a good chinwag 🙂 I should hope we are aiming for the top every season otherwise there’s no point. We aren’t supporting Darlington here.

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  • Beattie25

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #35

    Neun our chance was in January when we should’ve strengthened thee team considerably. We didn’t and now we face a struggle unless our tactics are massively altered.

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  • gaz 44

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #36

    ok lets go for first rate signing .. woo 17mill for Owen bargain of yr.. 10million luque i feel bad were doing there team over so bad here cheap as chips… OMG .ba martins wowser with all these first rate players relegation will b a distant memory..

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  • gaz 44

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #37

    there goes beattie empitonising the reason why fans of other fans call us deluded.. we ain’t a big club no more.. we have had to build from the bottom.. n as for settling for second rate owners…. i don’t see many ppl flooding in to take over so yeah i am settling for what we have

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  • Tsunki

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #38

    The CB thing was a bit of a shambles, then when we started to recover from a good hiding we had ACoN, so it’s not safe to say the run-in is going to be easy or hard. What can be said is that the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, liverpool and even Man U are deeply unimpressive and I don’t think a new season will magically sort them out. Arsenal just need to get shot of their manager for them to become mid-table haunters for 5 years. Chelsea have virtually exhausted the world of the best managers and players and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Roman Avadenuff bale in the near future. Cue Chelsea’s slide down the ranks. King Kenny? Please! And if SFA has to retire? What we have got going for us is a side with vitality, run economically, self-sustaining with a burgeoning youth system, and a highly-motivated business man with few caveats about making dosh by any means available. If this trend continues, we may have to endure the prospect of Champs League in the next few years whether we like it or not.

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  • JackButler

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #39

    gaz 44 – You cant talk about rebuilding or long term aims on here or you get shot down by those who want everything now and go against everything we have. some believe that great football clubs are created over night and not by building piece by piece.

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  • Beattie25

    Feb 18, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #40

    @ tsunki

    That is exactly the point.

    We are not supporting Darlington so why most of the fans accept the mediocrity and say ‘we are 4th’ in response to criticism is amazing.

    We are nufc! We are one of the biggest clubs in world football, the 25th richest club on the planet and have more sell more replica shirts per capita than any other club in the universe.

    The only reason we did not remain chasing top 4 was because of poor ownership. The reason we are not cementing top 4 this season is due to tactical errors, and in my humble opinion the reason we will struggle next season is due to a combination of both previous points.

    That is unless Ashley sees the profit margins increase ten fold due to European competition and Pardew sees the error of his tactical arrogance.

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