When You Are 2-0 Up At Home You Have To Win


Alan Pardew has called the Newcastle performance in the second half yesterday a loss of two points – after Newcastle had a handy 2-0 lead after just 18 minutes of the game.

Alan Pardew – you’ve got to win at home when you’re 2-0 up

Alan Pardew was left very frustrated – just like the rest of us – when Newcastle again waved the white flag in the second half yesterday afternoon.

And it’s getting to be too regular an occurrence that Newcastle surrendered their 2-0 half time lead, and two valuable points in the process.

This is what Alan Pardew said after the game:

“When you’re two-nil up at Newcastle and you’re the home team, you’ve got to win. It’s as simple as that,” “We spoke about it at half-time, the game wasn’t over because Wolves had a fair amount of control over the game even though we had two goals.”

“We never got to grips in that first 20 minutes of the second half. Though having said that, it was two poor goals and we should have done a lot better.”

“We have had a good run at home – perhaps Saturday was the first disappointment for a while,” “But I’m not overly concerned – we look like we’ve got a goal threat up front and on the defensive side of it we just need to adjust a little bit.”

In fact it was the first time this season at St. James’ Park that Newcastle have not won the game, but against a relegation side it still wasn’t good enough.

Alan Pardew is unwilling to criticize his players too much, given the fine form they have shown so far this season, but in the last five league games we have lost two and drawn one, and conceded 13 goals, which is hardly good enough.

Just wanted to put some reality into the conversation – we are conceding far too many goals and we have to get a grip – and sooner rather than later.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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94 comments so far

  • ilovetoon8788

    Feb 26, 2012 at 6:38 AM

    Comment #1

    Our defence is like a broken tap leaking water. Our fowards are isolated and midfield is so poor its unreal. Plenty of workrate but clueless to know what to do with the ball. No control whatsoever.

    This is the type of football we are treated to all season long, getting dominated by very very poor teams. When’s the last time we actually played football? Its like watching rugby.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Feb 26, 2012 at 6:47 AM

    Comment #2

    the worst thing is, we had 2 weeks to prepare for this game. we are not playing in any cup competitions, yet our players look jaded. this is the 3rd atrocious performance in the last 4 games. i don’t mind if they lose, but atleast put a performance that has fighting spirit. that’s the least they can do as professionals and fans who are paying money are watching.

    Pardew better rectify this problem.

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  • Klatoon

    Feb 26, 2012 at 7:13 AM

    Comment #3

    Completely agree with the 1st two comments,it was ok playing boring ugly hoofball when we were getting results but AP has to change something now. The 433 with Jonas CM allowed us alot of control over games,just that we lacked firepower uptop at the time (shola CF best LW). We havent dominated a game the way we bossed Fulham in the 1st half. I suggest we return to it with Ba tucked in on the left and HBA on the right. This would also open up the LW for Santon to attack as Ba would be getting into the box at every opportunity. Control over games is what we need to protect our oh so fragile defence,442 isnt offering that control.

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  • Dannyo

    Feb 26, 2012 at 7:28 AM

    Comment #4

    Willo was really poor last night, it has to be said.
    He’s able to do much better than that, his heading was appauling, no direction, no power.
    Not good at all.

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  • davis_toons

    Feb 26, 2012 at 7:37 AM

    Comment #5

    rugby? ..i thought it looks like amercian football at times..

    Frankly speaking, we have got some nice player to play a better game.

    We are playing a kind of “NON Branded” Football which was good as well. But we need to keep the ball more on passing ground(long or short) because now we do have much better quality then pervious batch.

    Do AP want the players to end up like Alan Smith..he lost his way when United “Use” him as a workhorse.

    Can you imagine, our midfield with 2 Alan Smith.

    Instruction to Wingers
    HarryRed : Wingers are to attack, helps the FB when needed (In short, Attacking & helping out FB is your job)
    AP : Wingers are to defend and stay back to wait for overlaps frm FB. DO NOT cut into the box and try Shooting if not you shall be Bench.
    ….
    JOnas: But i scored a goal today…
    AP : Thats because you are being lucky, BenArfar did that a few times, and you know where you are heading to. (Bench)

    Jonas : ….mmm..well..

    AP : So guys until you learnt how to work as a WB/FB then you shall have a chance at the position.

    but…the opportunity is there, try to grap it fast.

    Instruction to FB :
    HarryRed : FB is to Support the Wingers and Attack when you needed to & be back to your position once done (Defending & helping out Wingers is your job)
    AP : Go up join the attack, let the Wingers get back and do the Defending, Just stay upfront. We are training Wingers tobe FB as well here.

    Did anyone saw Simpson asking BenArfar to get back and support him? (If a video is needed, im most welcome to do it, youtube name: talkofetoons.. google it you can see some of the action.)

    Asking BenArfar to defence at the box is like giving away penalty. Remb e action?

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  • Klatoon

    Feb 26, 2012 at 7:49 AM

    Comment #6

    Completely agree with the 1st two comments,it was ok playing boring ugly hoofball when we were getting results but AP has to change something now. The 433 with Jonas CM allowed us alot of control over games,just that we lacked firepower uptop at the time (shola CF best LW). We havent dominated a game the way we bossed Fulham in the 1st half. I suggest we return to it with Ba tucked in on the left and HBA on the right. This would also open up the LW for Santon to attack as Ba would be getting into the box at every opportunity. Control over games is what we need to protect our oh so fragile defence,442 isnt offering that control. oh and Willo’s a donkey

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  • chris_g

    Feb 26, 2012 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #7

    davis_toons – that’s the first time I’ve seen one of Alan Pardew’s teams referred to as a “pervious batch” but somehow it seems quite appropriate 😉

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #8

    this is the type of fotball big sam delivered to us . fans were shouting for head ans ash fired him.why not now ? i never saw the football with sam quite as bad as this. It may never have been pretty , but we would have won the game 2-0 up at half time thats for sure.

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  • JDdubai

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #9

    You cant play 4-4-2 and have no threat down the right hand side, only team who is successful with 4-4-2 at the moment is Spurs and they have Bale on the left and Lennon on the right with top full backs bombing on.#

    The defence has the ball, can go to Raylor as he cant beat a man, cant play the attractive nice passing through the middle as there are only 2 centre mids playing so it just gets hit long ball and hope.

    You either put another centre midfielder in and change the formation and try to play nice little triangles to pass your way through or keep 4-4-2 but have someone on either wing who is a threat and can beat a man and create space for others. We are playing long ball because the players aren’t right for the formation and there is no pass on when the defenders have it.

    Its so obvious it hurts…….

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  • davis_toons

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:19 AM

    Comment #10

    NO Doubt AP have to be given more time to improve the squad and i really dont like watching us play this kind of game and lost it. (Winning games? ..Im fine)

    To me, I dont believe in this kind of Style and I believe we are not able to win trophies even after 10 years.

    To me, i have never see teams playing this kind of game and win trophies (But how did Birmingham win the Cup and got relegated Cup win was because of HarryRed, his goal was to win Cup games the rest he doesnt bother)

    It really getting the know how of getting the middle ground. Eg. MantUtd. ManCity – apart from Rich, etc they have a Great Manager that knows how to play the game.

    The best is to see improvement next season in our games & play a better and winning game plan.

    At most will be two season to change our game style.

    But some fans will like AP & wanted his to recontract his 5 years (Total of 10years) playing this kind of game…and dont improve at all. Just floating along the table.

    MA might find him cheap for a manager but i really cant watch Newcastle in 2016 still playing this kind of game.
    Give AP a recontact will just benefit Mike A giving him a easy life.

    For me, I want to see Newcastle challange the likes of Spurs and higher in the next two or so season (Year : 2014/15) cant wait for next season but its too soon i know.

    For 5 years, to change a club now im finding it too slow tbh, maybe im too impatient.

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  • ash1001

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:20 AM

    Comment #11

    When you are there at the match and you see the two goals Newcastle conceeded you form an opinion as to why, then you watch it on MoD and you see who was really at fault in my opinion its:-
    First One – once again Danny Simpson leaving his opponent with acres of room to do as he pleases, and that is not the first time, then he sticks a foot out and its in the back of the net.
    Second One – Mike Williamson with another powder puff header, and Danny Simpson running all over the place behind the goal time, in the goal mouth.

    Both of these problems have been there for a while now, and neither have been addressed – that’s down to the manager and the owner.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:20 AM

    Comment #12

    @stuart no9 // Feb 26, 2012 at 8:00 AM

    seriously, Pardew’s football is worse than fat sam’s.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:24 AM

    Comment #13

    @ash1001

    that’s the reason why i’m not too bothered if Simpson doesn’t sign a new contract. very poor player. and most of goals that we concede always comes from his flank.

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  • LenDixon

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:32 AM

    Comment #14

    Alan Pardew is just a dirty old pervert! Did you see him at that bonding session in Spain?

    Why have all our managers since SBR been sh1te?

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  • Klatoon

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #15

    When i saw that 5 of our next 6 games would be on TV i was very happy,but after watching yesterday’s debacle…im not too happy because if NUFC’s on,i HAVE to watch it even though i know im probably gonna end up depressed by the terrible hoofball 🙁
    and what happened to “We’ve achieved the 40 point safety target,lets play and express ourselves,give the fans a treat” AP’s setting out his team like he’s in a relegation battle ffs

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  • davis_toons

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:36 AM

    Comment #16

    … ok playing boring ugly hoofball when we were getting results, Im fine as well.

    BUT do you know the IMpACT?

    Whats e impact?

    Getting Players

    1. Will more talented players looks to play for us?
    2. Then you ask, Are we paying well to attract them?

    But whats the promiss to his “signed players” when AP says we are playing flowing attacking football sign for us.

    They come to a new club got “lost” and leave for good.

    Im totally fine as long we get a result win/draw or will this style keep us winning like ManUtd,RealMa, Baca,Inter, ..all the so call best team in the world.

    In 10 to 20yrs time (AP might still be in charge)
    Do Newcastle Utd wanted to be one of the best or just like the rest?

    Maybe im too demanding or mayb with Mike we can only go this far.

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  • ash1001

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:38 AM

    Comment #17

    Have just watched it again on MoD, and AS was fair and right in his comments.
    Watching it live showed up a glaring midfield void where there was not a Newcastle player in sight at times.
    Newcastle’s passing at times was sso bad it was unreal, highlighted by Guthries crossfield pass in the last 10 minutes that was 20 yards behind Santon and went for a throw in.
    As for Kruls route one kicking all that did was put Wolves back on the attack particularly in the second half.
    Do we not have coaches and tacticians to sort this out, just remembered we do.

    Krul to spend a few days with Reina at Liverpool learning how to distribute from the back. Do a Liverpool fan by the way, but have to admit hes good at it.

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  • davis_toons

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM

    Comment #18

    stuart no9 // Feb 26, 2012 at 8:00 AM (9)

    Thats because Big Sam is buring a big hole in Ashley pockets

    That explains 5 year and a 3 year contracts.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:47 AM

    Comment #19

    Here we go again!

    What a fickle bunch you all are!

    Pardew made a mistake with his first substitution! The lads were,nt even looking when Wolves took the free kick!

    But i don,t believe you are all so negative! We would of all been happy with a top ten finnish at the start of the season!
    There were people on here yesterday convinced we were going to hammer them 5-0 ! Som of us on here know better.

    We need to try and regain some conficence against the Mackems! And moaning on here aint going to help!
    Oh and by the way, lay off Pardew! He,s just as pissed off as the rest of us!

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  • Oleg G

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #20

    Good morning lads

    2 things.

    1. As I said yesterday after the HBA “fight” here on the blog. Going to try and watch the game and analyze our moves and the players and give you some pure statistics. Don’t know if I will be able, but I will try.

    2. If someone wants to watch the game again and don’t have it on the Tele, in this website there are 2 links, to the two parts of the game.

    http://www.myfootball.tv/profiles/blogs/newcastle-vs-wolverhampton-full-match-download-25-02-2012

    Need to register but it is fast, no “telephone, address, bank account, your dogs birthday” B.S.

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  • ash1001

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #21

    @Newexpatmagpie
    Fickle we may be be at times but with good reason.

    Wolves conceeded 5 at home in the last game, al-right so did we in our last game, but yesterday was just about APs dream team with the current squad, and this was the same team that was not conceding goals at the beginning of the season, so somewhere along the line we have lost a wheel – so fickle we are but with good reason.

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  • Ericles

    Feb 26, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #22

    Perhaps, perhaps, is all we get from Pardew. Apology after apology, week in, week out. Another abysmal capitulation against teams we should be hammering!
    When are Ashley, Pardew and co going to realise we need to invest in quality defenders? Wolves was another example of a collapse by cowards. Time for changes different from the uninspired choices made by Pardew.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #23

    @NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 26, 2012 at 8:47 AM

    top 10 is a good finish with this team? if you accept mediocrity, that’s where you belong then. go support the mackems.

    with the likes of Tiote Cabaye Cisse Ba Colo Santon Krul,.
    that’s a freaking top 6 right there. i expect us to be dominating the likes of wolves without a manager and conceded 5 the last game and without Bassong and Fletcher.

    Call us fickle for all i care. But with this team finishing somewhere mid table is a disaster.

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  • Marty-Toon

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #24

    Dont wanna start up no ben arfa row again.
    Must say that Benny is a classy player but haven him on the RW doesn’t seem to suit.
    If he was playin as a cam in front of Tiote and Cabaye for instance the he can play one twos with them and go either side of his opponent but on the wing he gets boxed in.
    I think AP is a little afraid of the 5 man midfield or he doesn’t know how to set it up.
    Cabaye is being affected by having to sit back and run all over the place defending,he isnt getting forward enough thus our midfield end up playing too deep and too far away from our strikers.
    Seemed like no one knew who to pick up for the free kick.

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  • woodsee

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #25

    Bad day all round especially when your sittin with 2 wolves fans,other thing i have to comment on though is the atmosphere,52,000 and it was as flat as a knacker

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #26

    @22:

    Please don,t make me throw up in my cornflakes!

    Support the Mackems indeed!

    I hav,nt accepted Mediocrity! But i am just saying not to expect a championship winnning club too quickly!
    We have had a good season so far by our standards!

    Not too long ago we were down in the Championship, but then thats history now! You may be right to expect a top six finnish with the players we have! But we are sixth now and the season aint over yet!

    Please don,t send me to The stadium of Shite ! I can see me having nightmares about this!!!!

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  • davis_toons

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #27

    I wouldint like to see Chris Hughton with his team playing nice attacking football and got the win agaisnt Newcastle.

    NO matter what AP got to scrap it and with it.

    Chris is a gentleman,” said Pardew, tackling head-on Geordie Grievance No?1. “I’ve not spoken to Chris but I probably will put a call in. I’ll give it some time because he will be hurting. I know he would have been genuinely well liked in the dressing room. I have to follow that. But there’s a different personality in that dressing room now. I wouldn’t say I am more confident. I just have a manner that can sometimes upset people. I’ve upset players in the past.”

    Ben Arfar please heed that!

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  • Irie-Magpie

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #28

    Marty-toon, 4-2-3-1 is what we should be playing, no doubt benbut in the hole flanked by Jonas and BA, cisse up front. AP needs to get it together.

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  • Irie-Magpie

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #29

    *Benny* in the hole@ 27

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  • spitfire_

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #30

    “When you’re two-nil up at Newcastle and you’re the home team, you’ve got to win.”

    No sh1t?

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  • Weezertoon

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #31

    It was nice to see him go with a 433 for a brief period of the game, Ben Arfa definately looked sharp in this game too.

    Our team don’t look confident on the ball. Our strategy appears to be ‘if in doubt, pass it back to Krul and let him hoof it’. We have better players than that, we should be passing it around to keep possession, none of this long ball crap.

    Simmo has to go. He is an atrocious full back. It seems in recent games that he’s ball chasing instead of reading the game and reacting accordingly.

    I think our best team is this:

    ——–krul———–
    Raylor-Willo-Colo-Santon
    ——-Tiote———–
    –Guthrie—-Cabaye–
    HBA—-Ba/Cisse—-Jonas

    The issue here is we have two phenominal strikers, so we are pretty much forced into 4-4-2. Unless Cisse and Ba could be fitted into the 4-3-3?

    Also, Ashley has ruined the atmosphere at St. James’ Park by splitting up the singing section. We used to have one of the loudest crowds every match, but since the season ticket holders are spread out now, they can’t seem to get many chants going.

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #32

    I thought he would have learned by now – Alan Pardew that is – but I guess he will never learn.

    Some of you happy go lucky bloggers must see by now that the league table do lie. It really have been up hill with you lot sometimes.

    Didnt want to bother posting yesterday, but read some of the post and it was sad to see the same people slagging HBA after another bad team efford and tactical error from Pardew.

    Sure it is his fault and sure he was the problem yesterday…as always. Funny its the same people everyday speaking the same nonsense – probably the reason why somw of us dont post as often anymore and sort of ignore some bloggers on here.

    Woosa 🙂 that was so nice to get out. Feel much better now. Have a good Sunday lads 😉

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  • IITianToon

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #33

    The problem at the start of the second half was that we werent pressing enough, and they were able to play with the ball.. Having said that totally expected us to get the 3rd goal with 25 mins to go.. but unbelievably we lacked cutting edge 🙁

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  • Rotonda heights

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #34

    Why is it the pro Pardew group make the same excuses nearly every week? We didn’t have our strongest team etc, etc.

    Yesterday we had everyone available, playing at home against a team who had just sacked their manager and are at the foot of the table and we were 2-0 up.

    Simpson with his non-ability in any attacking sense, constant backing off and increasing number of OG deflections is just nowhere near good enough. Don’t get me started on Williamson.

    This team desperately needs freshening up and people like Simpson, Willo, Raylor etc who can’t even play ‘’one touch’’ football dropped. The trouble is even if we bring in better players, Pardew will still make them play ‘’Allardyce style’’ football.

    Pardew would drop Messi from his cosy, 442, long ball, high line defence and kicking people (we are bottom of the fair play league) regime.

    Carr has got us a bunch of technically good players mainly from France and Pardew is telling them to hoof it. There is no passing and moving.

    We are static all over the pitch and we constantly leave players isolated. The sickening thing is we have everything in place, except a good progressive manager with a creditable CV who with these players could really push on and not be afraid to push on. Oh for a Brendan Rodgers type. Pardew = mediocrity.

    The likes of Cabaye and Benny have been lied to and we the fans have been lied to as well. Where are the fast free flowing football and the players who will get us off our seats?

    We play in strait jackets and worry about other teams way too much. Norwich, WBA, Fulham, Brighton, Spurs, Wolves aren’t just one –offs any more. Ugly football if successful is barely palatable, but ugly football and losing sucks.
    Krul

    Tavernier Colo Streete (that’s right) Santon

    Cabaye Tiote Ferguson

    Benny

    Cisse Ba

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  • nimo

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #35

    williamson is a joke of a defender.. thats all i need to say about yesterday.. and if simpson n guthrie are supposed to b playing for new contracts if i was AP i would be telling them to find new clubs

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  • nimo

    Feb 26, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #36

    and beny is the most frustrating player bags of talent just dont know how to use it… all these who r slating pards for not playing him. actually go to a game.. i could look good on match of the day

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  • nimo

    Feb 26, 2012 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #37

    slating pards for making a change on a set piece,, actually a double change on na set piece.. fair play he deserves it

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  • nimo

    Feb 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #38

    can any1 got the stats on guthrie yest;
    i mean his pass stats must read passes 30 completed 3

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 26, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #39

    NEWPIX
    As for your comments @18,unless you were at the game and for whatever reason can take any positives from a display like that,you have no right to crticice people for moaning about what was probabably our worst home display of the season,or the worst display without taking three points.

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  • nimo

    Feb 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #40

    krul santon n tiote were great.. only positive from yest

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