Pardew Worried About Losing Top Players – He Should Be


Alan Pardew has given a wide ranging interview with the Daily Telegraph today, and he admits he is worried about losing some of his  top players.

Newcastle have to be successful to keep their top players – like Demba Ba

It didn’t help when Liverpool won the Carling Cup last Sunday,  and former Newcastle players Andy Carroll and Jose Enrique won something for the very first time in their careers.

Newcastle have not won a trophy since back in 1969, and we’re sure Jose and Andy are happier now after leaving Newcastle,  that they at least won something and will be in Europe next season with Liverpool.

If they had stayed at Newcastle they still would not have won anything, so we’re sure they will say it’s a positive  in leaving Newcastle, that they finally won the Carling Cup, which Newcastle have never won.

That’s one reason that Pardew is keen on winning one of the Cups, and why he has prioritized them since he arrived at the club.

And he is keen to win something, in an attempt to keep the top players we have – like Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba, Cheick Tiote, Tim Krul, Fab Coloccini and Papiss Cisse.

It seems that losing some of his top players at Newcastle is a constant concern for the manager,  after he famously lost Andy Carroll 14 months ago, after telling everybody there was just no way Andy would be sold:

“If I can keep the same group of players I wouldn’t worry about raising expectations” “But will I be able to keep my best team? We are vulnerable to bigger clubs and you can’t get away from that with the salaries they offer.”

Once reason that  Newcastle have to increase their revenues,  is that they can then be able to pay the wages that top players demand, although it’s helpful that Newcastle are getting most of their players from the French Leagues, where the wages are not particularly high.

But  it’s important that Newcastle actually win something, or at least get close in the next two or three seasons, if indeed we are to keep our top players at the club.

That’s the cold reality of the situation that Alan Pardew and Newcastle find themselves in at the moment.

It’s really not a bad problem to have – to have to win something – it’s about time we did!

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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279 comments so far

  • ted

    Mar 2, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #1

    It proves exaclty what ive been saying how the hell can you be a top team if you sell all your best players? Try and defend pardew now little gamer geeks no wonder Carroll and enrique couldnt get away quick enough and theyve won summit, not like this pile of crap who dance until dawn because they are 6th but not for long!

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 2, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #2

    Never even had time to read the article but still posted. Classy.

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  • LewSpi

    Mar 2, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    Comment #3

    TDS, I was thinking exactly the same mate. I’m sure someone actually said earlier that the feed was productive and peaceful for a while, with good conversation. Jinxed it I think.

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  • Sammy Adamobi

    Mar 2, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #4

    i honestly think a lot of the top players at the club enjoy being here! cannot see tiote, demba or cabaye leaving! cisse has just signed and think krul loves it at newcastle! little worried about coloccini but still remain 75% certain he will stay! we need to make a few signings in the summer to develop a top class squad to compete this well against next season! cannot complain too much though, did not expect to be here this far into the season! a win against the scum would go down a treat!

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  • ogm

    Mar 2, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #5

    @ 1. Nowt like the lure of doubling your wages is there?

    Carroll has done nowt to earn that medal, it was the best bit of business we’ve ever done getting rid.

    For Christ sake give Pardew his due, the team is improving and it doesn’t matter who you are with the exception of man City, somebody comes in offering crazy money for a player, you have to take it

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  • sirtoongospel

    Mar 2, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #6

    Tell you what though, come Sunday the Demba Ba song will be a little bit longer. They won’t be able to do owt with him.

    Demba scored 20 since Ramadan!!

    We will murder them, and then when they shuffle off back to their cess pit, we can get the disinfectant out and clean our stadium. But with 3 more points in the bag.

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  • ted

    Mar 2, 2012 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #7

    Pardews team will have to improve a bit more when Ba,tiote,cabaye and krul go in the summer Ashleys defo a got mackem blood in his veins!

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  • bills-son

    Mar 2, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #8

    The only teams who pay bigger wages than us are MCity, ManU, Chelsea, LFool and poosibly Arsenal.

    Of course Pardew is worried – it is a sign that we have 4/5 players for the first time in years the top 3/4 and even top European clubs would be interested in. But WHO signed them? Us under Ashley.

    Fans just don’t realise that this speculation means we are PROGRESSING as a club. If top clubs aren’t interested in your players its because they ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

    You can’t have it both ways can you?

    The simple fact is players like Tiote, Cabaye, Santon and Cisse are on long term contracts and it will stupid Carroll like money to get the club to even think about selling. But even if they do, who says we won’t get players just as good for a fraction of the price … just like we did when Barton, Nolan and Carroll left.

    Pardew is simply stating reality and managing his own and the fans expectations – but – unless a player is near the end of his contract and refusing to sign another one there won’t be any bargains to had for our top players.

    If clubs don’t offer WAY over the top, long contracted players won’t be sold. Just as they weren’t in the summer or January.

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 2, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #9

    It’s always going to be chicken and egg with these things, clubs like chelsea, man u and arsenal have been stamping around europe for years and can rely on a constant flow of cash revenue from it. We form a part of an aspiring group trying to break (back) into that revenue stream and much depends on how we ride that delicate line between keeping our aspiring young team together to strive for those euro places, and losing them to clubs who already have the lure of being there. it seems at the moment that the core of players we have are happy for the present to ride the wave of promise, but one or two shock departures might be enough to make the wheels fall off. If we’d managed a cup this year I think we may have bought us a season of patience but never mind..

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  • bills-son

    Mar 2, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #10

    ted // Mar 2, 2012 at 5:55 PM – Pardews team will have to improve a bit more when Ba,tiote,cabaye and krul go in the summer Ashleys defo a got mackem blood in his veins!

    Were you the same fella who was saying they would all be sold in January and that Tiote would be sold in the summer?

    Last time I checked they were all still here.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #11

    I’m afraid that despite all that has been discussed here, I can’t see Cabaye, Benny, Ba staying to play in Pardew’s system. It’s alien to them. They need to play for a continental manager like a Jol or similar, or a British manager like Brendan Rodgers.

    People say Pardew will change his system with a couple more players. Allardyce used to say the same.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #12

    bills-son

    Ted is trolling. Ignore him. We’re all trying to 😉

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  • GeordieGesus

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #13

    “Andy Carroll and Jose Enrique won something for the very first time in their careers.

    Newcastle have not won a trophy since back in 1969, and we’re sure Jose and Andy are happier now after leaving Newcastle, that they at least won something and will be in Europe next season with Liverpool”.

    Bit when and if there Ed.

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  • sirtoongospel

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #14

    Happiness goes a long long way in life. The players mentioned are really happy here, and they get along fine with each other. Ba said today he has become really good friends with Cabaye.

    And with us looking at further French signings, it keeps them happy. Jonas says Colo will stay and I think he will. With 2 good wingers, and 2 defenders, we would be capable of beating anyone, but maybe more consistently. On Sunday we will bury the unwashed, but with results going our way i think that we can cement top 7. To be honest though, we are better than Liverpool. Will be a big game when they come up here. And we can win it.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #15

    Rotonda

    You never replied earlier on – maybe because you didn’t read it though.

    Pardew’s Southampton & West Ham teams played very attacking, on the floor football. I lived in Southampton for a long time, and used to all their home games – so I can testify to that.

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  • Tsunki

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #16

    I genuinely do think Pardew is playing a makeshift system to suit a squad that isn’t fully built yet. I think he is all too aware of it’s limitations and so, I suspect, are we. Unlike Allardyce, the next Barca manager, I think AP will actually walk the walk when he gets his summer targets. Next year is the one to watch, this years a bonus for me.

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  • sirtoongospel

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #17

    Tsunki – superb post.

    He has got results with half a team. we still have weaknesses but Pards plays to allow for that, and to make us as effective as possible going forward.

    The foundation is in place to kick on from here. And with the right players – we all know who has been linked – then who knows what we can achieve. Chelsea need to spend a fortune to replace an ageing squad, but they don’t want to leave!!! Roman won’t spend again like before.

    Looking at us, the people who think we have sold “our best players”, really? Carroll wouldn’t get a game, Nolan wouldn’t get a game, and Enrique is the only one who would. But even he is so one footed it’s frightening. He CANNOT play a 6 yard pass with his right foot.

    We sold at the right time. If Nolan was that good, would he be in the Championship now? A Prem club would have paid what he wanted. But they didn’t. We are rebuilding everything at the club and it’s good to see. Academy and reserve investment will more than double also. Next season could be great for us, but first we need to see this one out. I think we will finish where we are now. 6th. And if we do, Pardew is manager of the year by an absolute mile.

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  • Spike

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #18

    Pardew seems to say at every press conference that he’s worried about losing players. It’s as if he’s been told to go out and drum up some interest in them. You never hear other managers going on about losing their players. Most are trying to unsettle other teams players by declaring a veiled interest. I wish Pardew would shut up about it and get on with having a great season and do the transfer business behind closed doors.

    Collicinni? Simpson? Guthrie?etc… We’re working really hard on a new contract, but I’m worried that bigger teams will be able to offer better wages and that we’ll lose players to them.

    Seems like a come and get them plea.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:19 PM

    Comment #19

    Spike

    That’s ridiculous – when Pardew spent ages saying Carroll would not be sold, everyone called him a liar.

    He knows exactly what Ashley is like, and to me it seems like he’s trying to prepare fans for when it happens.

    Saying that he’s advertising our players is ridiculous though :/ Why would he do that? He makes his money trying to be successful with the team 😐

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  • AndyMac

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #20

    “For Christ sake give Pardew his due, the team is improving”

    ……and thats all down to Pardwho ??????

    Give me a break sunshine the team will evolve because the Fatman wills it. Nothing to do with Pardwho who gets what he’s given because when he puts his own expert knowledge into the pot we get Obertan 🙁

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  • cupiddstunt

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    Comment #21

    AP said Carroll was not for sale and he was crucified on here when news broke about the sale, now we have dicks like cheese boy who are crucifying him because he is not claiming no players are going to be sold.

    Damned if you do damned if you don’t

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  • cupiddstunt

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #22

    Ted are you the same ted as in “bill and ted” as you sound just as thick as him.

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  • Spike

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #23

    TDS,

    I’m not saying that he’s not signing better players than the ones he’s lost. So far they have been way better. I just think he’s letting people know that the club will listen to offers so he can get more of these better players in. I just wish they would do it quietly rather than having to make a point of it at every press conference.

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  • GeordieCoaster

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #24

    @TDS @12
    I get quite a laugh reading the drivel that people like Billy, Ted, Bob, Gorgonzola ect. put on this blog. No wonder a lot of the regulars don’t come as often/left.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #25

    AndyMac

    Yeah. It sucked when Pardew sign Ba aswell. What a waste of money.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #26

    Toondownsouth

    so what’s he waiting for with us then. granted we have 2 non footballers in Simpson and Williamson, but surely
    still enough quality to play it on the deck now.

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  • AndyMac

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    Comment #27

    ToonDownSouth says:

    “Saying that he’s advertising our players is ridiculous though :/ Why would he do that? He makes his money trying to be successful with the team :|”

    Do you know that for sure 100% TDS ? I doubt it.

    Pardwho got the gig because he was prepared to go with the Deadly Duo’s plans and not make waves. He knows players will come and go as they realise the club has little ambition to take this team to the very top. His prime task is to try to mould the players he’s got left into something like a decent team. Rarely challenging for honours but keeping outside the bottom three.

    If we stay in the league we make money for the Fatman so Pardwho delivers sterile, safe football and we, the fans, chalk up yet another season of winning nowt !

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    Comment #28

    Rotonda

    Yeah, I’m under no illusions, and I know that we’ve played some dire stuff at times. But personally I don’t think it’s all that bad. I still enjoy watching Santon and Colo playing the ball out of defence, and Santon bombing down the wing with the ball.

    It takes some time to implement change though. It took Swansea about 5/6 years, and started before Brendan Rodgers at the club. When Pardew did it at West Ham and Southampton, there was absolute no pressure on him for results at all, so he had time to implement the style.

    Here, there’s suddenly (and unexpectedly) a lot of pressure on him to deliver European football next year. Personally, I think things would be different if we were lurking around mid table with no pressure, safe from relegation.

    But that’s just my opinion based on watching Southampton. Obviously only time will tell. If next season, we’re still playing like this, then I’ll accept I was completely wrong.

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  • solano

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    Comment #29

    Bills@ 8 “The only teams who pay bigger wages than us are MCity, ManU, Chelsea, LFool and poosibly Arsenal”.
    That statement is just not true…not now!
    You can speculate on the wisdom of paying out more but Stoke, Sunderland and many other clubs have a more flexible approach to contract negotiations. No doubt, our club has suffered in the past by dishing out lucrative deals in the past (including Xisco and Smith done under the tenure of your God) but when players have proved their worth, I think it is more than reasonable to reward them with improved deals in order to keep them and prove to the fanbase that we are willing to build and compete.
    January is the only window when we haven’t sold before buying…no wonder our manager and the vast majority of fans feel uneasy about departures – whether under contract or not! There is still the whiff of us being groomed as a feeder club…afterall, commercial/profiteering motives evn take precedence over heitage and history!
    No doubt, you will try to pan me as usual, but a blase atttitude of “don’t worry…we’ll find more diamonds in the coal” is ridiculous. We need to build, not replace.
    Trust in those who make the real decisions at the top, seems to be shared by only a handful of home-based fans like yourself and quite a few of our foreign legion who are not party to everything that has happened in the last 4 years. Increasingly in recent interviews, Pardew – the patsy/fallguy – seems to have adopted gallows humour when speculating on the future. It seems even he – hardly a “negger” – has no faith in the football ambitions of his employer?

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  • eastend toon

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    Comment #30

    i love it when narrow minded people talk of AP drumming up business for our players.

    its more likely that all the press are asking the same questions, and why are they asking the same questions? because we have exceeded their expectations, hell, everyones expectations, so surely other teams are going to be taking notice.

    just think a little more about the bigger picture before jumping straight in to criticize.

    IF we make it into europe i cant see many people wanting to leave… that has to be our goal and i’m sure it is

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    Comment #31

    AndyMac

    The same “do you know that for sure?” applies to that entire post you just wrote though. 😐

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  • AndyMac

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #32

    GeordieCoaster says:

    “@TDS @12
    I get quite a laugh reading the drivel that people like Billy, Ted, Bob, Gorgonzola ect. put on this blog. No wonder a lot of the regulars don’t come as often/left.”

    So you’re off as well then Geordie drivel ?

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  • Indian Magpie

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    Comment #33

    Pardew needs to stop talking -ve, it rubs on players

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  • cyprus

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    Comment #34

    Ed,
    Champions League football is more important to international players than cups, so that should be the main target. It’s also way more lucrative and raises the brand image.

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  • AndyMac

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    Comment #35

    “He makes his money trying to be successful with the team 😐 ”

    Jeez TDS its like pulling teeth.

    Tell me you’re 100% sure you know that Pardwho’s wage and bonus structure are all geared towards us winning something ?????

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    Comment #36

    cyprus

    By brand image, I assume you mean Sports Direct? 😉

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    Comment #37

    AndyMac

    How about you stop ignoring my replies?

    How do you 100% know that:

    “Pardwho got the gig because he was prepared to go with the Deadly Duo’s plans and not make waves. He knows players will come and go as they realise the club has little ambition to take this team to the very top. His prime task is to try to mould the players he’s got left into something like a decent team. Rarely challenging for honours but keeping outside the bottom three.

    If we stay in the league we make money for the Fatman so Pardwho delivers sterile, safe football and we, the fans, chalk up yet another season of winning nowt !”

    I’m pretty sure you don’t. That seems pretty hypocritical to me.

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  • cyprus

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    Comment #38

    Andymac, those you mention are the ‘regulars’ now, so calling ‘drivel’ their posts doesn’t make your posts insight-filled.

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  • cyprus

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    Comment #39

    Hope not TDS! 🙂

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  • solano

    Mar 2, 2012 at 6:43 PM

    Comment #40

    @29..it is also why we have a flawed and ageist recruitment policy…

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