Are Lovenkrands, Guthrie And Gosling Moving Out This Summer?


Plans are being worked out for the pre-season tour, and we expect Newcastle to announce their plans for that fairly shortly.

Peter Lovenkrands – played his last game for Newcatsle

And Alan Pardew has come out today and said that even if Newcastle qualify for the Europa League it will not effect the plans, which are advanced.

When Newcastle were last in Europe in the 20006-2007 season under Glenn Roeder our first game in that tournament was on 10th August at FK Ventspils in Latvia, which we won 1-0.

But last season Fulham’s first game in the Europa league was on June 30th in a two-legged tie against NSÍ Runavík of the Faroe Islands.

This is what Alan told the local press about pre-season:

“Pre-season is pretty much set whether we are in or not,” “I’m not going to bring us back any earlier. That’s dangerous because it makes the season too long.”

“Our transfer policy won’t change either. We are going to build on what we’ve got.” “There are one or two targets we think could help us and we are going to pursue those. We are actively doing it.”

“Shane Ferguson and Sammy Ameobi are getting more opportunities to start and that will be important,””Mehdi Abeid and Haris Vuckic have started one game and they have to come to the fore next year if we are in Europe.”

“That’s what we will be looking at.”

If Newcastle somehow qualify for Europe and find themselves in the same position as Fulham were last summer, they’ll have to recall their players early, because last year the lads reported back on July 1st, which is one day after Fulham had their first game in the Europa League.

It’s interesting that Alan says Newcastle have two targets for the summer, but we also think there’ll be a number of younger players moving into the club this summer.

And Derek LLambias said yesterday there may be a couple of players moving on this summer, so we don’t know who those are.

Peter Lovenkrands and Danny Guthrie have contracts that run out on June 30th, and if we don’t hear of a new contract being given to Guthrie before that, he will become a free agent and move on.

We also wonder what the future holds for Dan Gosling at Newcastle, since the 22 year-old cannot seem to get a game in the first team.

We think Lovenkrands is certain to move on, and his cameo appearance last Sunday is likely to be his last game for Newcastle, after he suffered a thigh injury in training this week in training, which will likely keep him sidelined for the rest of the season.

Dan Gosling is likely to move on, but we’d be surprised if Newcastle don’t sign up Danny Guthrie for a few more years at the club.

Who do you think may move on?

Comments welcome.



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39 comments so far

  • Indian Magpie

    Mar 10, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #1

    hope not for gosling and guthrie, loven all the best to him if he goes, was good in championship.

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  • israeli_fan

    Mar 10, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #2

    Dg is a bit like ameobi.. Unplayable in 1 game then pants in the next

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 10, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #3

    It’s frustrating having to wait a whole weekend for what I fear may be another drubbing.

    I just hope that in order to buck the recent trend of home draws and away day thrashings, Pardew might come up with what Arsenal would least expect, rather than using the usual, oh so predictable tactics.

    People like Pardew and Allardyce will only ever get so far playing their style. 6th place is great, but if we could only lose the fear and impose our players on the opposition, rather than worrying about what they will do to us and try out different, more adventurous things, then Pardew could be the real deal.

    You just know though that Raylor and Jonas will start ahead of Benny and Obertan etc, so instantly we have no pace in the wide positions. Pardew’s mindset is defence, but against Walcott and company we have no speed to stop them. Therefore why not try either a 433 or 451, play our speed merchants (Benny & Obertan) and ditch 442? Oh yeah, because Pardew is our manager who would rather put on Perch and lose 3-0 instead of 5-0, rather than try to get something out of the game.

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  • israeli_fan

    Mar 10, 2012 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #4

    By the way indian i read the comments on a regular basis and you are the worst poster here

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  • Indian Magpie

    Mar 10, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #5

    thank you

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  • Indian Magpie

    Mar 10, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #6

    does that mean that you will not read them from now on

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  • israeli_fan

    Mar 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #7

    My pleasure

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  • israeli_fan

    Mar 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #8

    I will try as you post here about 1500 messages per day

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  • Indian Magpie

    Mar 10, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #9

    all the best in your endeavor

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #10

    Loven… thanks for the memories.

    Gosling …never shown anything. No loss.

    Guthrie….has had some very good games, poor in others with suspect fitness towards end of games. If we have Amaltifino coming in and we get 6M for Guthrie, I wouldn’t lose too much sleep.

    Simpson, poor, poor footballer, no technical or attacking ability whatsoever and an increasing number of O.G deflections from his constant backing off.

    Williamson… read for Simpson.

    Perch… a trier.

    All the above, bar Guthrie probably championship players.

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  • cheick Norris

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #11

    Israeli and Indian that has to be the most polite disagreement ever lol

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  • Pardew's fist pump

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #12

    Israeli

    Your post on the last thread was horse shite, then on this one you’re comparing Gosling with Shola. I’d look closer to home for that title.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #13

    cheick,

    he does not like posts, no problems its a subjective issue. good on him

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  • cheick Norris

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #14

    Williamson can be quite solid rotonda. has had a few poor games. made one (albeit costly) mistake against the scum. gosling tries too hard. perch gives his all but isn’t quite good enough. probably all three will get another year to prove themselves

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  • cheick Norris

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #15

    @Indian you’re very calm today

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  • Crawfordladd17

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #16

    A goalkeeper we do need Forester will more than likely like for Celtic about £2m. Harper is 36 almost 37 so will retire in the next 1 or 2, so we need an replacement we need 3 keeepers Krul Elliot and we are apparently looking at Henderson from Portsmouth so him for not much about £500k.

    Defence we need a centre back and a full back preferably a left back
    Which is our main play to strengthening love to see Douglas on a bosman. Pieters for around £3m from PSV. That will leave us with plenty of opinions.

    A winger Drenthe would be great on a free.
    Shane Ferguson Sammy Ameobi Vuckic and Abeid are not really yet, I would keep Ferguson but loan the rest because he can play a few positions. I would like to see a centre midfielder though like Corgnet for around £4.5m.
    Keep Gosling and Guthrie

    A young striker either Mike Phillips from Blackpool and Rodiquez from Burnley would get either for £3m

    Which is £10m spend let go of
    Ranger for about £1m
    Forester £2m
    Perch £1m
    Loverkands Free
    Kadar Free
    Smith Free
    £4m income which is goood

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  • Rozzy

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #17

    Hope they stay as we need some depth in the team. If cabaye nd tiote get injured we need back up also tiote mite not be hear but i hope he stays.

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  • dmac

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #18

    @10 6m for Guthrie ?!? Your joking right? Isnt he coming to the end of his contract? We would be lucky to get 2m if thats the case. Also that would but him as more expensive than tiote (when we signed him) i really doubt anyone would pay 6m for the lad and i really like him.

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  • Pardew's fist pump

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #19

    I agree Rotonda, although we’ll be losing Guthrie for nothing as his contract expires this summer. Really want him to stay and think he will in the end..

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  • Crawfordladd17

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #20

    £11m spend

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  • Indian Magpie

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #21

    Cheick

    as usual i think

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  • cheick Norris

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #22

    i think guthrie would have to finish the season quite strong for us to get 6m for him . that said the scousers would probably pay 15 or more

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #23

    If you read the artikle lads!

    There is no indication as to WHO is going and when or for how much!

    So this another trumped up story based on nothing but Tabloid Crap!
    Lovenkrands is logisch! But it will be difficult for him to find another club who will take him on! And i can,t see them giving him another contract! But i would give him a turnover contract for one year at a time until he finds something else! He has been a good player for us over the time he has been here!

    As far as regards the artikle! We will just have to wait and see in the Summer! Obvious right!

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  • Marty-Toon

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #24

    Rotonda….
    U off yer heed?U think we can get 6mill for Guthrie when he will be free in the summer.
    Be lucky to get a mars bar and a coke
    Great player on his day and hope we keep him

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #25

    Not to bothered at all if Gosling goes I think he’s had ample time to prove himself,and that sending off at Norwich and what should have been a needless sending off for handball against Everton shows the guys a bit of an idiot as well.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #26

    Forgot guthrie hadn’t signed a new contract.

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  • stuart no9

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #27

    indian and israeli – are you 2 living together, hahaha may be you could educate a certain bills-son on how to have a debate on having a disagreement, lol

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  • geordiesteve520

    Mar 10, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #28

    Just thinking about the Euro dates (if we get in), I don’t think it will start as early as perhaps it would have last year due to the fact the final of The Euro Championships is on 1st July and I cannot see things kicking off too early with the focus on that.
    In terms of Guthrie, Loven and Gosling I agree with most of the posters and think that Loven is getting too old and Guthrie just doesn’t seem to want to commit but I just feel Gosling may have something to offer; we have to remember that he had perhaps the worst footballing injury of all and it will take him a hell of a long time to get back to full form and fitness (and I mean match fitness) so perhaps one more season in the squad could determine his potential to recover and contribute to the team.

    We have talked a while about a new left back and/or cover for Santon/Raylor, I think that Zeki Friers from Man U could be worth a punt – had a few games already this season and rated highly but seems, like a few youngsters there recently, to be growing frustrated and hasn’t signed; we could get him on a free transfer (plus nominal compo) and would fit into our policies both in regards to transfers and potential. Any thoughts?

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  • Ian Magpie

    Mar 10, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #29

    Sorry lads but none are good enough to see us to the next level! Would any of them get into any other side in the top 7??? Think not!

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  • jimmymagpie

    Mar 10, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #30

    I wish a few people who come on here were capable of reading accounts properly, and would read what is being said by certain individuals properly. Fact 1 : This club is carrying the biggest debt in it’s history, £140m. The only thing that has changed is that there is now only one creditor – Ashley. That debt still has to be repaid, albeit interest free. It makesdue diligence straight-forward and quick, in the event of a realistic offer for the club, as Llambsarse is his usual cack-handed way explained. It is an accountancy exercise. The profit and loss account is only a snapshot of the last 12 months dealing, it is the overall deabt that you all should be looking at. Fact 2: Llambsarse said that Ashley has given the go-ahead for 1 CASH signing in the summer. In other words, at the way things are at the moment, every other signing will have to be a FREE signing! So, please, no fantasy lists on here please. Did you also notice that the cost of signings in the 12 month period of the accounts included wages, but the sales, for example Andy Carroll, did NOT include savings on his wages. Creative accounting, or what? I ran my own business successfully for a number of years before retiring, and know damned fine what you can do when producing a set of accounts, but some of you continue to live in Cloud Cuckooland if you wish.

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  • Arsyan

    Mar 10, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #31

    do not sale guthrie and gosling for god sake!!! both lads showy promising future ahead.specially guthrie.hes a very good midfield man,dan gosling.hes like joh o’shea he can play in various position

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  • drivershigh

    Mar 10, 2012 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #32

    Interesting debate on here as usual, that seems to revolve around two things – an abundance of central midfielders and uncertainties in defence.

    Regarding the central midfield, it seems that when Cabaye or Tiote are unavailable, Pardew favours Guthrie, who I haven’t always been a big fan of, but I think can do a job there. Gosling has had limited opportunities, but never pulled up trees (although not getting a run of games may affect this). I also agree with @chieck Norris that he maybe tries too hard, resulting in bookings/wasted opportunities etc. And then we have Abeid, Vuckic and occasionally Perch.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if one of two of these players leaves due to lack of opportunities or whatever, and personally I’d let Perch and maybe Gosling go, assuming Abeid and Vuckic have the capacity to fill in for a game or two until they are ready to challenge Guthrie for a place.

    Regarding defence, obviously losing Steven Taylor for the season is a huge blow, and Williamson has done a reasonable job as cover (rather him than Perch in my book), but another CB might be required, particularly if we end up in Europe or want to compete for Europe next season.
    Seems that Simpson gets a bit of flak on forums, and if he doesn’t sign a new contract, then we’ll need a replacement in the summer. Santon is another bone of contention, do people think he needs more time to adapt? If so, then maybe someone like Pieters could be brought in (as long as he plays better than in the Holland friendly!).

    So in summary;
    1 or 2 CM to leave, and keep our brightest prospects?
    RB if Simpson leaves
    LB if Santon needs more time?
    CB ?

    Personally I think we need some competition/rotation on the wings as a priority assuming no major gaps in the squad – Jonas will collapse if he has to play a season with European commitments on the left, and Obertan has failed to impress me.

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  • Toon-Barmy

    Mar 10, 2012 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #33

    Possible/Probable plan for next season:

    GK: Tim Krul
    GK: Rob Elliot
    GK:
    RB: Davide Santon
    RB: Danny Simpson ??
    CB: Steven Taylor
    CB: Fabricio Coloccini
    CB:
    CB: Mike Williamson
    LB:
    LB: Ryan Taylor
    RM:
    RM: Gabriel Obertan
    CM: Yohan Cabaye
    CM: Cheick Tiote
    CM: Danny Guthrie ??
    CM:
    LM: Jonas Gutierrez
    LM: Sylvain Marveaux
    ??: Hatem Ben Arfa
    CF: Demba Ba
    CF: Papiss Cisse
    CF:
    CF: Shola Ameobi

    Reserves: Tavernier, Ferguson, Vuckic, Abeid, Sam Ameobi.

    So that means we need: GK, CB, LB, RM, CM, CF. (6 top players in, and possibly new deals for Simpson & Guthrie).

    OUT: Smith, Lovenkrands, Forster, Xisco (Please God), Ranger, Best, Harper, Gosling (Loan?)

    What do you guys think???

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Mar 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #34

    @30:

    At he end of the day mate! 85% of the people don,t give a flying toss about how the accounts are done and the who or what with the financial side of things!

    Most just want to go and watch the Footy on a regular basis and watch a team trying to win whatever the cost !
    The 140Mil debt to Cashley! He would more than likely try to work that debt into any prospective sale !

    Try using Paragraphs the next time you want to post accountaincy mumbo/jumbo on here because it will be easier trying to read what you were trying to say if you do that!

    Then maybe some of us dumber posters on here may be able to understand you more!

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  • GS

    Mar 10, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #35

    Jimmiemagpie @30

    They also said that money from player sales would be reinvested and intimated that they expected a sale (probably Tiote).

    The picture may change if we get into Europe.

    Since you are looking at the accounts, you might notice that there is room for improvement in revenue i.e. more shirt sales, money for higher league position, new sponsorship, new TV deal, more TV exposure – we seem to be on just about every game.

    A couple of years ago (without Europe) revenue was 100M and only 90M last year.

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  • chuck

    Mar 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #36

    With the recent signing of another midfielder (Amalfitano) and the almost come and get em attitude of Llambias
    It appears the club are interested in making a sizeable profit from the sale of our best players in order to fund the purchase of “younger, better and of course cheaper players.
    It seems Tiote is being touted for sale and possibly Ba.
    Not sure what role Amalfitano wiil fill, but for those who expect Guthrie and Gosling to be sold, sorry guys they just wont fund the new arrivals expected, so we will be stuck with them.
    Obviously there has been interest in players like Ba, Tiote and possibly Cabaye and the two footballing genius’s Mike and Derick are so chuffed with themselves, they think the can repeat last years coup (the Carroll sale) and use the funds to bring in a number of younger better and cheaper players.
    Yeah sure !
    Question is, if we continue to sell our top talent, when and how do we compete for silverware, are we to be a selling club in order to generate income, ergo a mid table side, or is there any ambition to win something?
    There’s been a recent flurry of PR work done, with claims of the club being in better financial shape, truth is the club still owns well over a hundred million (to Ashley) which would be added to any sale price.
    Smoke and mirrors.
    Had to laugh at Llambias explaination of why they got rid of Hughton.
    He would’nt argue with him, therefor had to kick on!
    Whaaat ?
    Why would Hughton an ex International player and a renown defensive coach argue football matters with a footballing ignoramus, who’s prior expertise was fixing the odd’s in a casino.
    This of course really translates into” Pardew is not a yes man”, which is so far from the truth it’s laughable.
    The only thing i can give credit for is they have revived a moribund PR department, even though anyone with a brain can see through their bullshit.
    Ah well, is what it is !

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  • bills-son

    Mar 10, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #37

    stuart no9 // Mar 10, 2012 at 10:31 AM – indian and israeli – are you 2 living together, hahaha may be you could educate a certain bills-son on how to have a debate on having a disagreement, lol

    I don’t have disagreement with the likes of you – I just keep getting proved right.

    Witness how many fans on here are now giving Ashley some credit.

    About half … and rising all the time.

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  • FAU

    Mar 10, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #38

    @Toon-Barmy,

    i think the best line up for next season:

    GK: Tim Krul
    GK: Rob Elliot
    GK:Harper
    RB: Davide Santon
    RB: Danny Simpson
    CB: Steven Taylor
    CB: Fabricio Coloccini
    CB: Grant Hanley (cheap price coz blackburn regelated)
    CB: Douglas (contract expiring)
    LB:Martin Olsson ( same case with hanley
    LB: Ryan Taylor
    RM: Ben arfa
    RM: Gabriel Obertan
    CM: Yohan Cabaye
    CM: Cheick Tiote
    CM: Danny Guthrie (really hope)
    CM: Haris Vuckic
    CM: Gosling
    LM: Jonas Gutierrez
    LM: Sylvain Marveaux
    CF: Demba Ba
    CF: Papiss Cisse
    CF: Shola Ameobi
    CF: Emmanuel Mayuka (Bsc Young boys, 21y/o,key player that lead zambia won afcon)

    versatile reserves.
    DF: Tavernier, right,centre def
    DF/MF: Ferguson, left midfield,left back
    MF/CF: Sam Ameobi. winger,striker

    OUT: Smith, Lovenkrands, Forster(2.5m), Xisco (Please God), Ranger(1m), Best(3m), Abeid (Loan) :6,5m

    IN: Mayuka(4m) , Grant Henley(1.5m), Douglas (free) ,M. Olsson (3m) ; 8.5m

    If NUFC desperately want a new cm, I really, really wanna see Kara Mbodj( Tromso) in the squad, he is available for 2million , I guess. And nobody can pass him in Norwegian league. Serious tank.

    http://www.teamtalk.com/newcastle-
    united/7400926/Mayuka-Newcastle-a-dream-club
    What do you guys think???

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  • Crawfordladd17

    Mar 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #39

    FAU
    Kara Mbodj the Norweigen league is pretty poor. Do you think we will only buy 4 players hope not and Blackburn will not get relegated.
    I Think we need 6 at least, a back up keeper a centre back a left back, a centre midfielder, a winger and a striker

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