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Guthrie Upset At Being Dropped – Should Newcastle Keep Him?

11:31 am, Monday, March 19th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 38 Comments

It’s come out today that Danny Guthrie was upset and disappointed when he was left out of the side,  once Yohan  Cabaye and Cheick Tiote both became available again in late February for the Wolves game.

Danny Guthrie – should Newcastle keep this lad?

Guthrie’s contract ends on June 30th this year, and there was a report in the Sunday Sun yesterday that Danny had turned down his latest contract offer from the club,  and that he was now likely to leave the club in the summer.

Danny revealed today to the local press,  that he was upset when he was left out of the side at Wolves, although he did come on as a sub after 65 minutes for Ryan Taylor.

This is what Danny said today:

“I was very upset and disappointed to be left out the team a couple of weeks ago. I had to pick myself up.” “It was a tough game to come into against Norwich.”

“We were delighted to get the win – we have not won for a few games now.” “It was a tough grind out there, and a bit edgy at times, but it is another three points on the board.”

“We got the draw against Wolves which we should have won.” “We also played decently against Arsenal but lost the game.” “It is never a consolation, but against Norwich we really grinded it out.”

“It would be a proud moment – not just for me to get into Europe.” “It would be for all the staff because it was not expected of us.” “The top four is out of our reach.” “Maybe that will be in the next two seasons for us.”

“The Europa League is definitely within our reach.” “If we show the work ethic and determination we have against Norwich in the next few games,we have a chance.”

Those are good words from Danny, and we think he is definitely worth keeping at Newcastle, but the Newcastle Board rarely budge in their contract negotiations, although Danny could possibly get an improved offer before June rolls around.

Both Danny Guthrie and James Perch are showing they are good squad players, with James playing very well again yesterday in defensive midfield, but if Danny wants more first team football than he’s getting at Newcastle, then he may have to move on.

But Danny always comes across as really committed to Newcastle, as he continued:

“We are not going to remember a good performance when we don’t win.”  “So it was a very important three points for us and with players missing and people playing out of position, it was a massive effort.”

“Norwich made it difficult, they are a good side who play with a spare midfielder.”  “They are all good footballers.”  “We were unfortunate to only be 1-0 up at half-time, the second goal would have made it more comfortable.”

“As the second half went on a bit of edginess crept in – but we saw it through.”

In order to get a feel on what our readers think of Danny,  we’ll conduct a poll to see if fans think we should keep Danny on Tyneside.

Should Newcastle Keep Danny Guthrie On Tyneside?

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38 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jayphoto // Mar 19, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    really like guthrie as a player, but he’s never going to first choice here with cabaye and tiote! Think amalfitano has been signed to be reserve to cabaye with guthrie leaving! He’s definately a player who can go on to have a great career but if our long term aim is top 4, he is not a top 4, starting 11 player and hes obviously not happy to be a rotation player or back up!

  • 2 wynsleap // Mar 19, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    Guthrie is a player who, whenever called upon, is usually guaranteed to give a good account of himself.
    Good squad players like him and Raylor are valuable to the club and give strength in depth. They should not be sold unless they can be replaced by even more talented players who are happy to sit on the bench and be brought on when necessary.
    Furthermore I feel Guthrie has been unfortunate in losing his place to Cabaye considering HIS displays recently.

  • 3 billy // Mar 19, 2012 at 11:47 AM

    Clueless Pardew tried like hell to give Norwich a helping hand with his ridiculous team selection. The writing has to be on the wall for this oaf. As for Guthrie, the kid has a real stamina problem i don’t think he’s up to premier league standards.

  • 4 VanToonMan // Mar 19, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Guthrie is not good enough to start for us if we want to be a Europe team….but….for every Carrick…you need an Anderson on the bench in case of injuries and cup games so he is vital for squad depth. We should keep him unless someone better can be brought in to replace him.

  • 5 nattapol_d // Mar 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    I truly believe Danny is very important to our squad, However, what’s the matter of having a poll. Mike will not listen to us although the result is YES.

  • 6 bob // Mar 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    Watching chubby boy Guthrie panting his way through the second half shows how the useless Pardew must be training them if a 24 year old premier league player can’t stay with the pace against Norwich, what would he do if we were playing a top team?

  • 7 ted // Mar 19, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    Guthrie – a championship player managed by a championship manager. Says it all really.

  • 8 Beattie25 // Mar 19, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    Time to do a Danny Simpson and leave the blog.

    I cannot stomach the acceptance of mediocrity anymore. We are fans and are supposed to support the team and the only way we can get better is to push forward instead of accepting hwat we have, cos let me tell you, what we have now is not what we deserve.

    Our team has so much potential yet so many of you clamour for a non existent truth that we are playing well and that everything is rosey at our fair club. We deseve better and you lot have lost what defines us as a great club, passion. The passion to be over joyed when things go well, the passion to cry when things are bad, the passion to believe that our potential will be fulfilled and the passion to voice fair opinion want for something better.

    I have been positive but I am no moron and see that our team is not good enough. We as fans are ripped in 2 and I shall not be a part of the blog anymore.

    Enjoy your acceptance of mid table and dreamless nights.

    I am off to enjoy dreams of a great future where the potential of our club is fulfilled, the passion restored and the quality of football greatly improved.

    How long until that is a realit, currently it may be a very long time.

    The real fans are fleeing from the stadiums only to be replaced by part time football manager wannabes with greasy fingers due to the sweat that pours out at the mention of world of warcraft.

    Fcuk you all and I hope the real fans, the ones who have unyielding passion, wheter it be portrayed in negative comments in the hope of improvement or positive comments in the face of adversity can reclaim our club.

    The meak shall inherit the earth, and also NUFC it seems.

  • 9 ted // Mar 19, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    We won but it wasn’t pretty and if this is the type of football that Pardew thinks passes for entertainment, then the sooner Pardew goes back to the casino the better. This stage of the season all our players should be battle hardened but it looked like they’d spent the night in Digital they all looked shagged out.

  • 10 eric // Mar 19, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    Does this fella Pardew have any idea what he’s doing? After sitting through 90 minutes of that yesterday, the conclusion is that he hasn’t got a clue. playing Jonas at left back when he had a 5 million pound left back on the bench showed this guy’s tactics up for what they are. The team formation in general looked like they’d never played together before. I’m afraid that we’ll need to be lucky to finish in a European spot. Something has to change.

  • 11 Stuart // Mar 19, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    Today is a glorious day, Beattie is f***ing off!

  • 12 Shabilla1984 // Mar 19, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    Beattie- are you a mackem in diguise? what more do you want? up untill 3 games ago we were challenging for the Champions League – would you rather us be challenging for the titile? Go away horrible little man, I was at the game and yes it was like watching paint dry after we scored – but it was about the 3points. It was good entertainment watching us go for it against Arsenal but we got 0 pionts points. here we have 3 – 5 points above lierpool. You are deluded to think we can do any better with his current squad, Pards stated himself we had 8 first teamer’s out (realsitically only Marvuex, STaylor & RTaylor would have got into that team). lets finish striong and get the all important wins to secure Euorpa football. We’d be eaten alive if we got nto CL, at least in the Euorpa we may have a fighting chance.

  • 13 RedMissionBells // Mar 19, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    Are we able to buy another English player in the market who is as young as Danny Guthrie and better at under 4 million?

    I highly doubt so. As such, I definitely think we should keep Guthrie.

  • 14 JDdubai // Mar 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    Guthrie is right to be pissed off for getting dropped, he has played better than Cabaye in 2012 and picking Cabaye ahead of him is simply choosing someone on name and not performances,

    We couldnt replace him for less so try to keep him though I would expect him to leave as Pardew wont give him a chance to be first choice.

  • 15 markmac // Mar 19, 2012 at 1:11 PM

    Fairly comprehensive result this vote, 89% say yes [me included] lets just hope the powers that be can agree and come up with a good offer!

  • 16 nufcursed // Mar 19, 2012 at 1:28 PM

    reflections on yesterday’s game:

    1. we played very poorly; pardew has some very negative tactics; hoofing the ball up front all the time, while when we pass the ball we actually look a decent team. cannot understand why he takes off ben arfa!

    2.williamson is crap the executer of the long ball tactics

    3.i think guthrie shoud DEFINETELY get a new contract. i think he’s one of our best midfielders!! technically a lot better than tiote or cabaye!especially in the build-up play. plus when danny plays we pass the ball more. people who say he isn’t good enough don’t know anyhting about football. he’s a very very good player with better vision and decisions than cabaye/tiote

    4. perch cannot be critized anymore!he’s proved he’s a decent squad player and is a lot better at the ball than williamson,…

  • 17 bills-son // Mar 19, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    Guthrie IMO had every right to be upset at being dropped for Cabaye.

    Cabaye is a good player – no doubt about that – but he has created very little for months now. The pass Guthrie put in for Cisses after 2 minutes yesterday is the type that Cabaye should have been doing far more often.

    The simple truth is this – one of the reasons why we have been so iffy in matches since late last year is that the midfield has stopped creating chances. Tiote and Cabaye have not been creative and we all know that Guti rarely delivers a good final pass + HBA has not produced consistently.

    IMO an absolute priority for next season is a creative goal scoring midfielder – that type of player is as hard if not harder to find than a good CF. If Carr can pull one of these out of the bag – and a LB and CH – we’ll have one hell of a squad next season

  • 18 markmac // Mar 19, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    i think we all pretty much agree that its worth giving all 3 of our best CM’s a go together,ie this

    guthrie – tiote – cabaye

    if it works then he’s got a starting 11 spot and would surely sign if the offer is right!

  • 19 eric // Mar 19, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    I totally agree with you Bob. Under King Kev we played the finest football i have ever watched at St James’ Park a team full of internationals that struck fear into all of the premier league teams including Manchester United. This fella we have as manager now has never been and never will be a man to bring success to NUFC. When players of the calibre of Simpson, Williamson, Perch, Guthrie and Ameobi can command a place in the team, i realise we will always be an also ran. And the joke’s on me for being a season ticket holder putting up with this garbage.

  • 20 RobertLeeNo.7 // Mar 19, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    Guthrie is a decent squad player not a starter in a top 6 team, he was responsible for giving the ball away more than any other player yesterday by a long shot. Cabaye is looking a little tired but he got all over the pitch yesterday.

    Guthrie lacks stamina, after 25 minutes he looked shagged and he doesn’t have the excuse of the long season Cabaye has had.

    You lot that think he should start for Cabaye are clueless . You wouldn’t pick a french international who has been a starter even for them over last few months on occasions over Guthrie who is constantly injured, lacks pace, stamina and consistency. If ben arfa was not getting picked because of inability to keep on top of his game for a full 90 mins then why are you bothered guthrie isn’t starting you plebs.

  • 21 RobertLeeNo.7 // Mar 19, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    bills-son er… “cabaye hasn’t created anything for months now”

    apart from the ball that landed for ameobi to equalise against the mackems?

    go back to bed. If guthrie was that good big clubs would be interested in a free agent. They are not.

    Cabaye was watched by manure. End of.

  • 22 thepict // Mar 19, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    Definitely deserves another contract. Could not understand why Cabaye walked straight back into the team. Cabaye hasn’t played a decent game since the Man Utd game.

  • 23 RobertLeeNo.7 // Mar 19, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    although i do agree we don’t create enough in the middle it is due to pardew making cabaye play to deep and work twice as hard up against 3 man midfields.

    1 pass by guthrie for cisse which looked good due to awful awful defending doesnt justify guthrie a start he gave the ball away over and over again not to mention getting caught in possession a few to many times.

  • 24 RobertLeeNo.7 // Mar 19, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    blinded by loyalty won’t improve our team. He won’t get first team let him go and fingers crossed we get corgnet in the summer.

    Cabaye will be better after a first full season behind him he just looks tired.
    Shame he can’t be rested looked like guthrie is injured…… again.
    New contracts for players made of glass is something that will be hard to negotiate

  • 25 afrolicioustoon // Mar 19, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    Who the hell are Billy, bob, Ted?

    It smells like Beattie is leaving but going to stay on with his fake accomplices.

    True Fans – unlike Beattie – support their team thru thick and thin.

    Yes we get frustrated, yes we get dissapointed but at the end of the day Newcastle United is our club. That we love. That we support.
    That we die for.

    And because of this I will never ever stop supporting this club.

    If you cant be happy with three points with an unbalanced lineup against a battling team then you need to screw your head on.

    Weve got cisse, cabaye and santon in there 1st season in England. Weve got no real depth and some top players out.

    We are doing fantastic.
    Imrpoved on last season and are looking to build and get into Europe.

    to finish 7th will be a fantastic season.

    Climb out your introverted mind and look at the big picture.

    Muamba is fighting for his life. And youre upset because your team won a match?

    Get real mate.
    Howay the Lads

  • 26 wynsleap // Mar 19, 2012 at 3:11 PM

    RobertLeeNo.27 @ 21
    Manure signed Obertan. End of.
    (Incidentally, hate ‘end of.” – bloody arrogant).

  • 27 Ian Magpie // Mar 19, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    Squad maybe……..First team no chance (not if we have designs of pushing on next season)!!!

  • 28 bills-son // Mar 19, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    RobertLeeNo.7 @ 21 – ManU might have looked at Cabaye earlier on (or was it just paper talk) but they won’t be looking at him on his form now.

    You miss my point – I said Cabaye is a good player – but his form is nowhere near as good as fans make out and he doesn’t dominate a game. Guthrie was in form when Cabaye was out and IMO shouldn’t have been dropped. But thats just my opinion.

    As for going back to bed – are you old enough to get out of it yet?

  • 29 wynsleap // Mar 19, 2012 at 4:11 PM

    bills-son @ 28 – Haven’t always agreed with you in the past but I do on this occasion.
    Cabaye has been very average this season and I think if we’d had a really good midfield creator we could have been even higher than we are now.
    Reputation means absolutely nothing and if he can’t perform better than he is currently he’ll have to be replaced for next season.
    This position is crucial to the team and we can’t afford players who stand and watch the game go on all around them.

  • 30 macn0ble (Finland) // Mar 19, 2012 at 4:19 PM

    NO

    Reason Why; Too lazy to track back, plays himself out of the game many times during a match, poor positioning skills. And we have Abeid and Vukic coming trough the ranks.

  • 31 geoff777 // Mar 19, 2012 at 4:23 PM

    Guthrie has every right to be upset at being dropped.

    Cabaye has been poor since Christmas.
    Cabaye picks up a three match ban then strools back into the starting eleven when Guthrie has been playing very well.

    Bad man-management by Pardew.

    He should have benched Cabaye and given the shirt to Guthrie until he had a bad game.

  • 32 gonufc // Mar 19, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    Thought he was pretty poor against Norwich, as was Cabaye to be honest.

    He seems far too inconsistent to step up a level and become a first 11 player.

  • 33 wynsleap // Mar 19, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    geoff777 @ 31
    You’ve got it in one.
    Isn’t it a rule that the man in possession keeps the shirt until he plays poorly and has to be replaced?

  • 34 9 // Mar 19, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    Got to hand it to the boys who’ve spotted Guthrie isn’t a world-beater. Every team needs squad players and he’s a good’un. Comments based on one match (yesterday) carry no weight, and very few players emerge with credit from that performance (the INCREDIBLE KRUL excepted, of course). But if he won’t accept what the boss is offering, then off he goes and good luck to him. Hope he stays.

  • 35 RobertLeeNo.7 // Mar 19, 2012 at 7:05 PM

    Bills- son I am 30 so probably yes I only struggle after A heavy night.

    Pardew confirmed Man United looked at Cabaye. To be fair the lad is knackered he’s been in the team nearly every game and has to expend way more energy than he would of in France as the game is a lot more physical and played at a faster pace.
    Most of you are such turn coats and I’m not singling you out in that Bills-son. Everyone that kissed cabayes arse all season are now saying he’s shit and should be benched for Guthrie.
    I’ll say again Guthries game went to shit after the first 26 minutes against norwich and gave the ball away and was caught in possession more than any other player on the park…..

    So please tell me why he should be starting ahead of Cabaye?
    I’m sure the manager who has us 6th in the league knows Guthrie isn’t a touch on Cabaye who still btw gets picked for france so can’t be that bad.

    He ran his arse silly against Norwich maybe think about the role he is being asked to play by Pards.

  • 36 SwedishMagpie // Mar 19, 2012 at 7:07 PM

    very good player and I think we must keep him.
    I want to see us play like this
    Guthrie-Tiote
    —-Cabaye

  • 37 RobertLeeNo.7 // Mar 19, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    Wynsleap how can you slag the fella for an average season in his first season when him and tiote have been the centre piece of an outstanding season for the club?

    I am not against Guthrie at all but to say he is better than Cabs is crazy.
    I would play him in a 3 man midfield but that is all. If he leaves it will be to a mid table team.
    Cabaye will only be replaced if a bigger club comes for him. He will be better next year and with better defenders he may get more freedom to create.

    wynsleap its not the rule no. Sometimes you have to change your tactics and there for the player. The obvious better player should start for the team points are more important than blind loyalty that could cost you them.

    against spurs we would not have lost 5 – 0 had Cabaye and tiote played in midfield simple as that.

  • 38 karasu // Mar 20, 2012 at 3:47 AM

    i’ll reserve my call on this one but danny gotta buck up. he was dreaming throughout the whole game at norwich. misplacing passes, getting dispossessed, falling down and generally being like shola ameobi.




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