Kenny Dalglish will be pressed to say whether he thinks the Andy Carroll deal he had Liverpool make with Newcastle 15 months ago was a good one.
Kenny Dalglish – I made a mistake with Andy Carroll – not!
And of course at that point it’s all political, and Kenny needs to say he is happy with the deal, even though it’s been a very disappointing move from a Liverpool perspective.
This is what Kenny Dalglish actually said today:
“People are entitled to their opinion,” “There are always going to be people saying it was good business or bad. But that doesn’t make any difference really.”
“We were delighted to get him and we are still very pleased to have him.” “Some settle in quicker, but Andy’s settled in the area now and he’s worked really well to progress his career.”
The Newcastle dealings in the transfer market make Liverpool’s transfer business look even worse, with Newcastle spending less than a quarter of the money Kenny Dalglish has spent.
And yet Newcastle have become a very good side this season and are above Liverpool in the league table.
We remember that movie Liar, Liar with Jim Carrey in 1997, when he kept saying things he really meant, because he just couldn’t help it.
It would be hilarious to hear what managers really think about stuff, as they blurt out the truth without being able to stop themselves.
Can you ever imagine a manager actually telling it like it is – and maybe Kenny should have said something like this today:
“We are very disappointed with the deal that brought Andy to Liverpool.” “The lad just doesn’t look anywhere near a £35M striker.”
“And his goal-scoring record, or lack thereof at Liverpool, proves that.” “And it’s not to say my other transfer dealings were much better either.”
“I made some terrible deals and it appears I have cost the American owners an awful lot of money in transfer fees.”
We don’t think Kenny would be in the Liverpool manager’s position for very long, if he had made a statement like that, so a lot of what managers say are necessarily political in nature, and they usually make themselves look good.
What’s new?
That’s what Kenny’s actual statement is trying to do today.
Comments welcome.
22 comments so far
Klatoon
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Comment #1Carragher will give us a penalty or 2.
Cabaye against Spearing might get feisty, Cabs almost snapped the dirty scouse’s shin at Anfield. Luckily the ref missed it.
Alan_Pard_Who
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:31 AM
Comment #2I think what some fans don’t understand about Carroll is that it is more than a former player returning to his old stomping ground and therefore getting booed.
Taking everthing into account the most important thing for me is that he was local, a fan, always dreamed of the number 9, lived the life that only a few ever get but millions dream off and then he pi55ed on it from a great height.
Regardless of if he motioned the move he still could have said no. I think he saw the money, the ‘trophies’, the England number 9 and shit on every Gerodie accross the world.
You let your city down, your history down, your fans down and your self down and I think it is a footballing decision that he will regret throughout his career and I for one hope that he is verbally anhilated for his crimes against the toon.
Shearer came home, Carroll ran away from it.
Toon_Tom
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:31 AM
Comment #3It took Jose a season to get up to speed with the EPL and then improved dramatically over the following seasons.
Santon I believe will be a solid FB next year, hopefully replacing Simo at RB and we gain a quality left footed LB next season………….
In other news ; Sunderland’s Europian fixtures announced for the 2012/13 season – – – – –
Swansea at home ,,,,,,,,,,, and Swansea away
Toon_Tom
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Comment #4Pard_Who – Shearer turned down a chance to go to Manure when SAF approached him.
That is loyalty for you. Carroll is a 21st Century footballer who plays for money as opposed to passion.
He could have been a true Geordie legend, instead he is a true Geordie Judas!
Alan_Pard_Who
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Comment #5Kenny is truthfully an awful manager.
He inherited a team during his firt spell at Liverfool, bought the title at Blackburn, destroyed a fantastic NUFC team, was sacked by Celtic and is now destroying the Scousers for a second time.
The fans and press are chirping about the ‘entered 3 competitions, could still win 2’. B0ll0cks. If you are not in the Champions Leauge, the Premiership takes priority. Dalglish has won a mickey mouse cup that even WE didnt want to play a strong team in. This season will be a failure for them and I hope the finish 7th or 8th or lower.
Alan_Pard_Who
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Comment #6toon tom
With regards to Enrique I think his career was helped by our relegation. Going down to that level allowed him to gain confidence that propelled him last season and this for the dirty rats.
His first 2 seasons for me were nothing but average to poor and in a team like Liverfool it is not hard to shine at the minute.
geordiejamie89
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Comment #7I wouldn’t write Liverpool off just yet. Yes they are playing a bit shit. But we weren’t amazing in the season we hammered Villa 6-0, or Sunderland 5-1. And lets not forget they have the likes of Reina, Gerrard, and Suarez on the pitch, if two of those three have a good game we’ll struggle. Having said that though the way Newcastle started against West Brom, we should score against any side. Lets hope there’s more of the same this weekend. Hopefully Demba will rape Carragher, Hatem will rape Jose Enrique, and Cisse will pick up on the failed rape attempts for a gentle tap.
Indian Magpie
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Comment #8geordiejamie89
if reina has a good game we will struggle! How mate?
HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris)
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:48 AM
Comment #9it wasn’t a mistake for them to buy Carroll . it was a mistake to pay 35 million. he was never going to live up to the hype of being the most expensive English player.
geordiejamie89
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Comment #10Well if he’s having a good game its because he’s being a good goalkeeper, keeping the goal empty. But he’s average at the minute so he’ll probably let half the shots away from the middle of the goal in.
HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris)
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Comment #11@Indian. cos we’d struggle to score.can’t win without scoring
gaz 44
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Comment #12hovis if krul has a good game they will also struggle
Indian Magpie
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Comment #13struggle to score does not mean struggling
Alan_Pard_Who
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Comment #14‘I wouldnt write Liverpool off just yet.’
And why not? Surely the whole idea of being a fan is to think we are going to win and then pick up the peices afterwards if we loose.
Ive read your posts before and I know you are NOT one of these new age fans that post on here, eating wotsits , drinking bubble gum juice and looking through the internet to find clips of tulisa getting scuttled before posting utter nonesense. C’mon man write them off instead of being sensible and back the lads to rape everyone in the stadium.
gaz 44
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Comment #15its the first time in a long time that we have played Liverpool and i haven’t thought we will get stuffed .. so for that reason alone it will prob be 5-0 to bin dippers lol.. in all seriousness i think if he plays forward 3 n replaces guthrie with tiote we should win.. only pessimistic about perch and Williamson cb neither can head a ball
HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris)
Mar 30, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Comment #16@12 equally valid.
@Indian i was just saying what i think he meant. i know that the rest of their team could be terrible and we wouldn’t then be struggling per se
jamesnufc86
Mar 30, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Comment #17Gaz – that is all Williamson can do head a ball
LGFUAD21
Mar 30, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Comment #18It is all political, but Kenny’s competencies with the press are poor anyway. Just flat denial.
At least Pardew would say something like “Andy has struggled to set in here but he’s improving each week, has loads of potential and we are confident he will come into form here over the next season”
Thats a man who can give an honest, yet constructive pov.
Really think Pardew is great with the way he handles himself in the press. He comes across as quite charismatic in some of his interviews. He has the press laughing along with him after the Scumderland game.
People saying Bilbao were a former shadow of the Man U game, Probably true but they won it and as the saying goes, you have to be a good team to win ugly.
Liverfool Sunday:
Tehy will probably play Flannagan again, he is the weakness to the defense by far. I think Ba and Jonas can murder him.
Its a toughie because HBA on the RW would enable him to potentially exploit Enrique’s weak right foot with his cutting in, But at the same time, Enrique is a good defender that can steal possession back and launch attacks so Jonas on RW would make that more comfortable.
Someone was talking about Raylor at LB. I dont think thats a bad shout, he lacks pace but the what we played against WBA allowed our defense to sit back and shore things up, this would lessen the risk of Raylors lack of pace, plus he will be eager to earn a spot int he team cos he will more than likely not be getting his spot back from Benny.
Think Jonas will more than likely sit back and help out at the back with Tiote, So we will need a stella performance from Cabaye.
This is a game where tactics are everything. If we can hold possession and force the game to be played in the middle then we can grind a result.
If we counter well then it will up the tempo, we will score more, but so will they because they can also launch decent counter attacks.
If we play at a slow tempo, they will wear us down like Arsenal did.
Not sure what I’d do. Think the best method is to treat it like the WBA game, not factor in the weak defense and just play ball without over complicating things.
What I will say though, Is that with a weakened defense we will need composure in the middle and the same attacking force we had against WBA.
We will only get a result from this game with goals, we cant do another Norwich or Arsenal and sit back, let them bombard us and hope to keep the result at least level.
We defended well against Arsenal and Norwich, but the problem is that you cant expect a defense to be on the end of continuous attacks and not eventually concede.
If Guthrie plays, I hope he can get into gear earlier than at WBA. Sometimes I think I would favour Abeid in mid, I just think he is a young player with good ball control that would be able to make those simple but vital passes and complete them. From what Ive seen of the ald, he appears t have a good vision of the game.
Magpie_Man
Mar 30, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Comment #19I really think that we can stuff these come Sunday 5 2 I’m saying. They are a poor average side and if they had anyone else as manager, he would have gone 6 month ago. HWTL
geordiejamie89
Mar 30, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Comment #20@ indian mag, struggling to score doesn’t mean struggling? it does a bit, when all said and done the object of football is to get the ball in the net. we could hammer them all match, “struggling to score” while liverpool just struggle, then they beat us one nil.
toonfan_Ew Ew
Mar 30, 2012 at 12:09 PM
Comment #21What a clueless man. I’m really enjoying seeing this deluded team scraping away below us at the minute in the league. They have very quickly become the most dislikeable team in the premier league, for me anyway. Long may the Dogleash regime carry on at Liverpool, I do like to have a laugh once in a while during the transfer windows!
davis_toons
Mar 31, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Comment #22Yes, Shearer came home.
Yes, Shearer was better paid
BUT
He deserve it, he earn it, and he stick it through even going futher in bringing in Owen in but just not at the right time and didnt workout too well just like his stint with the stand in Manager post.
BUT
He always tried and do whatever he can to help this club do better and he did it during all his career.
AC is different, he didnt think that Newcastle willl see success anytime soon or rather in his lifetime. His chance comes he left .. BUT with a lie.