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Why Andy Carroll Will Get Hostile Welcome At Newcastle

9:12 am, Friday, March 30th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 17 Comments

Kenny Dalglish has said that Andy Carroll should not get any abuse on Sunday at St. James’ Park, because the events that saw him leave for Liverpool 15 months ago were out of his control.

Andy Carroll – has been a bust at Liverpool

There are different versions of the story of how Andy Carroll got to leave Newcastle, and Alan Pardew has said that when Andy was offered around £75K/week by Liverpool on 31st January last year,   he went to the Newcastle Board and asked for the same wages.

Andy had already talked to then captain and close friend Kevin Nolan, a  Liverpool fan, and we think that advice came from Kevin, who seemed to want Andy to move to Liverpool, from his later comments to the press about the move.

It will be  a great move for Andy to a great club, is what we remember Kevin Nolan telling everybody who would listen after it had happened.

So there are some things that Andy Carroll was responsible for that forced the move, although we may never know exactly what transpired, but Newcastle forced him to ask for a transfer, based on the local lad anting more wages, and he wanted them immediately too.

Andy could also have been advised to do that by his agent, who would be seeing dollar signs the day Liverpool came in for his player.

And of course the agent would have very much wanted the move to happen, unless Andy got a new deal at Newcastle, and therefore the agent would get his cut of that new deal.

It’s all about money.

As it has all turned out, it has been a super move for Newcastle,  and we now have Demba Ba and Papiss Cisse, with 21 goals so far in the Premier League between them, and they cost us one quarter of the money we got for Andy Carroll.

This is what Kenny Dalglish had to say today:

“I’m not sure Andy will get abuse because what happened was outside his control. It’s up to them what they want to do. They pay their entrance money and, if they want to give him stick, they will give him stick.”

“But I don’t think he ever did anything other than give of his best for Newcastle, and then they got £35m into the bargain as well. That’s not bad, is it?”

“I think Andy will be excited about going back. It’s the club he supported as a boy, the club that introduced him and gave him his chance in professional football. So I think he will be excited about it as a local boy and will be looking forward to the game.”

Kenny is also a failed Newcastle manager and lasted only 20 months after he was signed in January of 1997, after Kevin Keegan left the club.

Dalglish took the side from 2nd place in 1997, to 13th in 1998 in one short season, and we were 13th only because we had a better goal difference than three other sides, so we could have ended up 16th place.

And we were fighting relegation in that season, after finishing second top in both previous seasons.

Kenny has spent around £116M on new players in the last 15 months at Liverpool, compared to the £25M spent by Newcastle, and the Magpies are 8 points clear of Liverpool in the league table.

Liverpool have some great players, but they are nowhere near to being a great side, and you cannot argue much with those facts.

That’s one reason Kenny Dalglish is under some pressure at Liverpool.

Comments welcome.



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17 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tommyy // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    As much as I should hate them, this game is not
    About them, it is about us. They are the past. We’ve moved on and we’re better for it. Hate him or love him Carroll was average and Enrique was on large wages.
    Nuff said on it I think. Let’s just go and play our own game!

  • 2 Grafton83 // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    I remeber when Shearer turned down Man Utd, I was hoping Carroll would have done the same, for a while he was making all the right noises but I guess the money was too good.

    Doesn’t really seem to have worked out too well for him to be honest, I think he took bad advice and moved for all the wrong reasons. I anticipate he will get a hostile reception but it doesn’t bother me much, newcastle have done very well from that deal.

  • 3 Ollieh51 // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    “But I don’t think he ever did anything other than give of his best for Newcastle, and then they got £35m into the bargain as well. That’s not bad, is it?”

    Bargain Kenny?! You’re MAD son!

    Our starting 11 on Sunday will amount to the same price that you paid for Andy and you have made him look like a lame donkey.

    If they don’t with the FA Cup after spending so much money Liverpool and you Kenny will be an embarrassment.

  • 4 toon-hendy // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    Was anyone at the talk in at Dunston Federation last night with Pardew?

    My mate went and said it was quality.. he said that a CB is basically all agreed and there is just 1 or 2 tiny issues with the club that will be sorted, didnt give anything away to who it was though.

  • 5 Benton Toon Exile // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    I think all will be to busy slagging off Dalglish…..

    If we go 2-0 up then all the Geordies and Scousers will be singing together “You dont know what you’re doing!”

  • 6 geordiejamie89 // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    @toon-hendy, that’s good news. The most important signing first looks to be set. I hope it’s that Ajax player we’ve been linked with a couple times he’s quality. I just hope we commit to more than that though, especially if the club is to grow.

  • 7 MrToon // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    I think we should concentrate all our voices on cheering on our lads rather than booing a failure.

  • 8 Cool Hand Luke // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:42 AM

    Well said tommyy. They both did a good job when required but NUFC have moved onwards and upwards

  • 9 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    @Geordiejamie89

    Jan Vertonghen?

  • 10 Alan_Pard_Who // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:48 AM

    Has anyone seen Danny Simpson urging the toon faithful to give Enrique and Carroll a good reception?

    Ha ha ha. I expect them to get the kind of reception Danny will get next year when he signs for the mackems.

  • 11 Rotonda heights // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    much more likely to be douglas than Vertonghen with the difference being about 10M!!

  • 12 spitfire_ // Mar 30, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Vertonghen is too expensive… I guess is Douglas… after all he can came without transfer fee… If there any truth about this.

  • 13 geordiejamie89 // Mar 30, 2012 at 10:02 AM

    Vertonghen yea that’s right. I think it’s worth the outlay for Newcastle to spend on a quality player like him. There’s no point buying if we don’t want a vast improvement in quality. We can play with Williamson next season and save ourselves the money if we’re just going to buy another average defender. This CB is worth the price for the jump in quality.

  • 14 ash1001 // Mar 30, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    Don’t think we should, he never let Newcastle down on the field, off field was maybe a different story.
    Booing or shouting abuse at him could just spur him on, and without Colo being there the defence is going to have a pretty tough time without adding to it.
    The same applies to Enrique, but feel more against him than AC.
    Lets just support our own team – howay the lads!

  • 15 wynsleap // Mar 30, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Stuff Carroll. Stuff Enrique. Stuff Dalglish.
    And while we’re at it – let’s stuff Liverpool on Sunday too, as I hate them and their fans with a passion – even more than the Mackems and Manure (and that’s saying something).
    geordiejamie89 @ 13 – totally agree with your comments.
    The time for like-for-like purchases is over. If we want to take this club to the next (top) level we have to start gradually IMPROVING the quality of our players, not just replacing them.
    That’s how the top teams really get to where they are by constant and gradual improvement.

  • 16 toon-hendy // Mar 30, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Supposedly it’s basically all a done deal.

    He also came accros that Demba Ba would leave this summer if somebody bids, thats why he has been getting the fans to keep him.
    According to Pardew, Ba would only sign for us if he had the 7 mil release fee (which he confirmed was correct) – the only reason to put this fee in is so that any big team could snap you up easily yeah?

    He said the first 2 players on his team are Collo and Tiote – said some funny stories about Tiote but also gave the impression that if a big bid came in for him too then he could well be off.

    He explained that we have a choice 1,2 and 3 incase we lose somebody.. for example is we lose Ba we have a first, second and 3rd choice player to go for.

    Everyone that went said it was great and Pardew was fantastic came across honest and thats what people want to see!

  • 17 Ericles // Mar 30, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    If anybody gets some stick and will deserve it then it must be Dalglish. As the great Tino pointed out recently – it was Dalglish who destroyed a potentially great premiership winning team and for that our crowd should let him know it in no uncertain terms. Carroll is at most a local lad on the make but Dalglish was a wrecker!!!




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