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Quotes From Williamson, Krul And Pardew On Newcastle Win

12:30 pm, Monday, April 2nd, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 252 Comments

Mike Williamson insists that Newcastle can still qualify for the European Champions League next season, following our 2-0 victory over Liverpool yesterday.

Mike Williamson marking Andy Carroll yesterday

A second Papiss Cisse brace of goals  in successive games for Newcastle,  left us level on 53 points with Chelsea.

Newcastle are in sixth place in the Premier League, five points behind Arsenal in third place, and now a full 11 points ahead of Liverpool in 8th place.

Mike Williamson said  this of Sunday’s win:

“It’s massive, it keeps the momentum going and the dream alive of as high a finish as possible”

“If we keep playing like that and working hard then anything’s possible.”

Newcastle’s Dutch goalkeeper Tim Krul, who has conceded only one goal in the last three games,  paid some compliments to Williamson and James Perch in central defense, and James again played  great for the Magpies.

This is what Tim said:

“Williamson and Perchy were outstanding, they blocked everything – I didn’t have to make a proper save today.”

“Cisse is a fantastic striker, a proper goalscorer. He’s a typical number nine for Newcastle and I’m happy we signed a top-class player like him.”

The returning Andy Carroll’s miserable day – a very miserable day in truth,   started when he was booked for diving, as he tried to round goalkeeper Tim Krul in the penalty area.

And it ended with the former Newcastle number 9  being booked,  and then after 79 minutes he stormed off and down the tunnel ripping his Liverpool shirt off in the process, after being substituted.

This is what Tim Krul said about Carroll’s diving incident after 10 minutes:

“I never touched him,”“He dived. He was looking for a penalty which all strikers try and do, but the referee was in a good position and he made the right decision.”

And on the first half possible hand-ball by Danny Simpson,  which could have cost Newcastle a penalty and a sending off, this is what Newcastle manager Alan Pardew had to say about that one:

“It hit Simpson high on the shoulder, I’d be very surprised if the referee gives that – it’s not a hand sticking out, I thought it was fine.”

And was Papiss offside for that second goal?

Of course not – but it didn’t stop the TV commentators from trying to prove it was offside throughout the game, and this is what Alan Pardew had to say about the possible offside:

“That little touch, by that time the Liverpool player is level and he’s onside,” “It’s a rule none of us managers like but that’s how it is.”

And finally Alan tells us what they had to eat last Friday, as Pardew tries to put things on the menu for our players from the different parts of the world.

And it happened to be curried goat for Papiss Cisse, Cheick Tiote and Demba Ba, that all the players and coaches ate for Friday lunch.

This is what Alan said about that:

“We all had curried goat on Friday and delicious it was too. It was Africa Day and we enjoyed it. The curry helped!”

“It was Cisse’s best performance yet for us.”  “We have the new No.9 but I felt for Andy today,”  “He is a terrific lad and has had a tough year.”

“But from our side of the coin we have Cisse and long may his form continue. His hold-up play gave Carragher a tough day.”  “Two great goals, fantastic finishes and Cisse’s all-round performance was excellent.” 

“If someone said we’d be in the Europa League after this season, I would snap their hands off.”   “We have won three out of three now, and with seven games to go,  we have Swansea away next. We are in good shape.”

“Hopefully we will get enough points to get into Europe.”

Papiss Cisse is fast making a name for himself with 7 goals in 7 appearances for the Magpies.   And  we put out an article this morning on his goal-scoring prowess at the other clubs he’s played for,  and he has 122 goals at the rate of about one goal every two games,  in his 247 appearances.

That’s about what Alan Shearer managed throughout his career at Southampton, Blackburn and Newcastle,  with an amazing 379 goals in 733 total appearances.

Papiss looks a real star to us.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Mike Williamson · Newcastle News · Papiss Cisse · Tim Krul

252 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ilovetoon8788 // Apr 2, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Ashley is set for a massive summer spending spree for us.

    Apparently he has already agreed an undisclosed massive fee for the signing of large quantities of Strawberry Syrup and Goat Curry to fuel our front lines.

  • 2 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    We wanna keep the Strawberry syrup and Goat curry thing quiet. Not too long before the FA catch on and ban it as a performance enhancing drug…don’t want anyone failing a syrup test 🙂

  • 3 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    right, curried goat for the rest of the season it is then! come on lads, surely we need to get “strawberry syrup” and or “curried goat” into some kind of song!!!

  • 4 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    Goat Curry and Strawberry syrup = The breakfeast of Champions.

  • 5 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    anyone else notice yesterday how “in it together” our team all looked yesterday? noticed it before the game in the warm up, all smiling laughing with each other, when we scored they all celebrated, when players were subbed off they were gracious, shook all the hands of the benched players etc compared to liverpool that were arguing with each other on the pitch, didn’t look like a team etc

  • 6 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 12:48 PM

    Did anyone else notice that our warm up looked like we were all dancing? Made me smile. Looked almost like a taunt towards Liverpool.

  • 7 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    Jay…The team spirit is incredible and has been pretty much all season. We have a great “squad” which makes the collection of “stars” when we were relegated look pathetic.

  • 8 Toon_Tom // Apr 2, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    jay – yeah totally agree with your points there.

    I believe that Pards subbed Benny as he knew that he would get a ROAR of a reception from us and will obv do wonders for his confidence!

  • 9 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    If anyone wants to watch the match again theres a torrent here. 4 files – pre, post match and the two halves.

  • 10 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    bit mean on my own part, but yesterday i was particularly happy that Andy Carroll got to witness our new number 9 in all his glory! Bet he felt like an ex girlfriend that had just seen her ex boyfriend turn up with a reet stunner!

  • 11 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    Came on here today totally ready to give it all “I told ya so” to all the neggars that said that Pards was a muppet, tactically inept etc but then I thought to myself, no, all these people are probably gutted at how catastrophically wrong they have got it that they won’t even come on here to read it. So what would be the point! 😀

    What a win yesterday, in terms of significance to our season, I think that one was even bigger than the 3-0 victory over Manure, but only just!

    Hatem looks a real gem of a player, kudos to Pards for playing the waiting game with him, it is really coming to fruition now. Graham Carr is a genius for spotting half of this team! Papisto, Demba, Cabaye, Tiote…truly magnificent performance by all involved.

    Williamson and Perch, our 3rd and 4th choice CBs were the 2 best players on the park (followed closely by Papis, HBA and Tiote) and I am just so proud of those 2 lads, for all the stick they have received they have remained professional and focused on the job in hand. Buzzin 😀

  • 12 stk85 // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    the positivity coming out of the club, team trying world meals together, soemething i’ve never seen before. and to get perch and willo to a level where they believe and can nullify suarez and bellamy, and somewhat carroll is great man management by pards.

    and the next four, swans, bolton and stoke, then wigan are all winable. i doubt chelsea would win their next four. we win all them then the chelsea game will be massive!

    and we’re gonna be getting some top quality players this summer. pieters seems tied up. but one more defender and a winger/striker. i’d be happy with hoilett and mbiwa.

    i reckon tavernier and streete will come through next year

  • 13 Irie-Magpie // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    “If Carlsberg did signings, they’d have to be NUFC signings probably the best signings in the world..Cisse! Cisse!

  • 14 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    @GHOSD yeah you know the pardew haters will come out in force again if we lose 1 or 2! Manager of the season for me bar none! People talk about rodgers and lambert, sorry but in the winter and summer, pardew had his team dismantled! They at least could build on the success they had in the championship, Pardew had to start from scratch! Also, the job of toon manager, the pressure, etc is far greater than at norwich or swansea, the media attention (and bias, or lack of it) is far more intense not to mention he has to work with Llambias as a boss! Not to mention, we are going to finish miles ahead of swansea and norwich! The only manager possibly that deserves manager of the year more could be sir alex if man utd win the title! For them to beat city, after they spent so so much money and were so far ahead will be a true achievement!

  • 15 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    Ruddy…What a game 🙂 Couldn’t have written more of an optimistic outcome myself!

  • 16 martoon // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    I enjoyed the humbling of Carroll & co. as much as anybody else. Starting to wonder if the ‘Carroll dive’ was maybe a sub-conscious thing where he did not want to actually score and by getting a penalty somebody else could actually score the goal/ Of course that could be Freudian cr*p and the donkey tripped over his own feet!

  • 17 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:15 PM

    Some were even touting us as possible relegation fodder, or at best struggling to break into the middle of the pack. I remember in the January of 2010 that Lawro had said on Football Focus that Newcastle would be relegated if we sold Andy Carroll, he was wrong. Pre-season he claimed we would struggle because we sold Nolan and Enrique (followed by Barton) he was wrong again.

    Not only have we not struggled, we have flourished, Pards has shown that he can play multiple formations that he feels are most suited to the players he has at his disposal and has got the best out of players who supposedly had no real future at NUFC, Perch, Raylor etc and has re-energised our technical maestro. Alan Pardew has restored pride and belief in NUFC once more and the term “greatest manager since Sir Bobby” has been bandied about more often than not. The fact that people are mentioning him in the same light as the late great Bobby only goes to show how good a job he has done.

    In the last 7 games he can take an excellent season and turn it into a miraculous season…for me, whatever happens between now and the end of a season is a bonus 😀

  • 18 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    Ibiza 😀 Seriously mate, if Optimism Valley’s Brain Trust were tasked with job of scripting the “Perfect Scenario” of how that game could have went I don’t think we could have even come up with a result and performance as sweet as the one we witnessed yesterday! 😀

    The only way that could have been made any sweeter would have to be if Papisto nailed his third goal against the scumbag Enrique… but I’ll take that result 7 days a week, 365 days a year 😀

  • 19 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    posted this last night but thought it was worth another post

    Went to the Barbers and asked for a Liverpool FC haircut.
    Mess at the back, nothing on the sides and nothing up front.
    He charged me £130 million.

  • 20 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    Ah HOVIS ye loaf 😉

    Saw that while I was trawling through the threads this morning, made me laugh a lot!

  • 21 IPToon // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    Did anyone see the incident in the second half when Suarez went down holding his face? From what i saw Gutierrez was running away from Suarez, put his arm out to shield the ball, pushed him in the chest and Suarez went down holding his face, obviously trying to get gutierrez sent off. I havent seen a reply though but for all those having a dig at Perch should also have a dig at Suarez.

  • 22 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    Ruddy….I was praying for a goal in that last 10 minutes!

    Next up Swansea. If we play like we have done recently we “should” be able to get a result.

    Hovis…Good one 🙂

  • 23 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:22 PM

    love the old scores predictor! I got us finishing 6th 3 points off chelsea and 5 points off spurs!

  • 24 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    Jay…You best re-calculate then 🙂

  • 25 martoon // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    Just a thought – where does this leave Raylor? Perch seems to have taken his crown as Mr Versatile.

  • 26 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    Martoon…Spot on. I can’t see Pardew playing Raylor over Perch at this time. He’s earned his place

  • 27 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Watched the Spurs-Swansea game yesterday and I thought that Swansea were unlucky, although they do have an Achilles heel in the way they defend set pieces, so perhaps we could exploit that.

    If we continue with this 4-3-3 formation, which has yielded our 2 most impressive performances this season, then the away game to Swansea could be a very open game of football, much like the game was yesterday. What is patently clear is that we need Tiote to do what Parker did to their midfield yesterday and seriously press them and press them hard. If we squeeze their midfield we could break them down and hit them on the counter 😀

    Already looking forward to it!!!

  • 28 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    I doubt Raylor will touch the field much the rest of the season. Marveux is coming back too u know.
    Sad for him, but despite his helping hand this season, i just don’t rate him that highly.

  • 29 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:30 PM


    Marveaux or Raylor?

    Marveaux is class.
    Raylor like Perch is a great squad player.

  • 30 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    @codarm – just for fun, if you recalculate it a certain way, we can still pip man united to the title by 1 point! (until they win tonight) looks nice as a table tho!

  • 31 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    Sorry, Raylor, he’s a squad player as u say, and we have a few who should be getting the nod ahead of him.

  • 32 JAMSHA // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:36 PM


  • 33 martoon // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    Ruddy @27. I watched the game also, Spurs constantly disrupted their passing game by hastling and harrying them which a couple of teams have done recently. We are quite capable of doing the same with perfect front 3 to catch them on the break.

  • 34 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    i love how our less glamourous players have really shone. thanks uncle pards

  • 35 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:46 PM


    Hard to see Raylor getting a game next season, possibly in Europe or the Carling Cup.

    Handy to keep the lad if we do have a real injury crisis.

    Raylor always gives 100%.

  • 36 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    Well, obviously he understands his own situation if u read his interviews throughout the season.
    I reckon he’s in the same mindset as Perch. “I’d be crazy to leave here now”.
    Also, there’s the contract extension he’s signed recently. It’s been a good season for him, but we’ll always be looking to improving, and as u say, i reckon Raylors first team chances will be severly limited next season.

    Especially if we permanently adopt the 4-3-3 formation. More or less atleast. I think Raylor knows he’s regarded as a squad player.

  • 37 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:53 PM

    rare clip of andy carroll warming up last sunday!

  • 38 Toon_Tom // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:54 PM

    Dannyo – i agree. I think Perch, Raylor and Guthrie, who have all featured alot this season ALL know that they are squad players and fill in when called upon.

    The question is, are they happy with this?

    Perch and Raylor I think are more than happy, however Guthrie may leave to seek first team football next year.

  • 39 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:56 PM

    Based on the last few weeks I think it’s disrespectful to call Perch a squad player. If he can keep this level up he’ll be in contention as a starter, either at CB with Collo or more likely due to Willo’s height advantage at LB. Santon on at 60-70 mins.

  • 40 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 1:58 PM

    Yes, i think u’re right. Perch and Raylor knows their limitations. Guthrie i rate higher then them overall. Altho Perch is probably the best of the lot atm.
    I feel Guthrie deserves to be in a starting XI, he’s good enough to do that. Imo, he could walk straight into all the teams below the top 6.
    On his day, he’s good enough for England, but i don’t think he’s consistant enough to manage that.
    I still remember his Villa game… WoW!

    Perch and Raylor are both humble lads, but if they’re severly limited next season, then i could see them leave next summer instead. It all depends.

  • 41 Toon_Tom // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Spuggy – I am confident that we will get a fullback this summer and also confident that Santon will become a regular, hopefully at RB and we sign a left footed LB!

    Perch is a squad playor and I can not see him breaking into the first team when everyone is fit! He coul;d however feature alot in Europe next season 😉

  • 42 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    yeah raylor will definitely be a squad playrt. but what a versatile guy to have at our disposal. next season i predict obettan to come good. vuckic and fergy getting some appearances off the bench and maybe abeid too.
    in the summer we’ll make some fantastic signings to push the squad forward and youngsters good enough to keep the pressure on our subs bench

  • 43 Mings // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    JAMSHA: Where can i find that pic? I have to upload it on Facebook hehe 😀

  • 44 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    @dannyo. guthrie wont make the england squad while employed by us. whomever selects the team always seems to think football ends in manchester/liverpool and london.
    we are treat with general distain and as basically a novelty by southern managers and press and pundits genrrally never rate us

  • 45 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    I’m not convinced that Santon will be given the RB birth and that’s IF we sign a LB – we may focus on CB, CM and CF given the next seasons absence of Tiote, Ba and Cisse to ACoN.

    Simpson doesn’t get a lot of credit but I think he’s a decent no nonsense defensive RB who doesn’t stray out of position – is it 6-7 goal line clearances now?

    With Santon, Perch Raylor not to mention Jonas able to play LB Pardew may prioritise other areas first. I’ve never heard a peep about playing Santon at RB. Don’t get me wrong I’d like to give him a go there or even on the wing but don’t think it will happen.

  • 46 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    Arfa laughing at Enrique’s new costume

  • 47 Rotonda heights // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:21 PM


    I think the reality is when we went through a bad patch, some people wondered why we weren’t playing a 433 and involving Benny in a fluid passing style.

    Back then we seemed trapped in a 442 mentality and playing a lot of long ball football. Pardew was getting it wrong back then, he’s getting it right now, so there’s no issue.

    Like Perch was crap before, he’s getting it together now, so the justified previous criticism stops and we move on.

  • 48 Mings // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    Thanx Spuggy….. Voila, now it’s posted on Facebook hehe…

  • 49 ilovetoon8788 // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    The Pardew haters,like myself, were right at that time. Nothing wrong to those who did that. He was playing a abysmal system which opponents always play us off the park.

    Pardew has now listened and changed it to a very fluid 4-3-3 which we all were crying for. And we no longer hoof it, now we play it on the floor.

    Pardew is learning at the same time. He’s gettting better and better as a manager.

  • 50 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    Spuggy -“Simpson doesn’t get a lot of credit but I think he’s a decent no nonsense defensive RB who doesn’t stray out of position” He’s a good rb but that is exactly what his game lacks – tends to let the blood rush to his head and surge forward – I recall a number of occasions when I saw HBA getting ready to do a couple of players for the umpteenth time, and the collective gasp around me as they saw simpson stranded in their penalty area – nobody to cover behind except Cabs and Guthrie. Not good imo. If he got this under more control he’d be about right.

    My final word on AC – got nothing really against the lad, well right up to the diving antics, but he wouldn’t have been wondering where his next meal came from if he had stayed, would he?

  • 51 ilovetoon8788 // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    It’s up on my facebook as well. HAHA! Great picture to see our ex players made to look like fools!

  • 52 Robby Bobson // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    I looked at the team at the start of the game and Saw Enrique and Suarez attacking Ben Arfa and Simpson and was worried, but they never got in down that side. HBA always tracked, Simpson was strong and when either of them wanted to cut inside, Tiote was a brick wall.

    Really like this system. Both goals came from HBA picking the ball up on the half way line due to his tracking. He even tracked back better than Demba.

  • 53 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    Jay @30….Just for fun? Can’t see it happening then? 🙂

  • 54 Robby Bobson // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    And some twitter quotes from none other than Erik Pieters…

    Erik Pieters ?
    Now checking the match #newliv Go Magpies and @TimKrul #getthose3points / Already 1-0 Papiss Cisse #keepitgoing

    Doesnt look like the odds are against him being here in the summer.

  • 55 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    Robby – I think it’s the collective awareness of tracking and covering that’s done the most to improve us.

    Still having a chuckle at ‘strawberry syrup testing’. 🙂

  • 56 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    Funny simpson wasn’t in there penalty area when he cleared six balls of the line saving us in probably 4-5 matches. He’s not world class but you could do a lot worse. Santon is caught out of position way more – fair do’s he’s still adapting.

    Rotonda – Give it a rest you’re boring me now. Our 442 suited us PERFECTLY the first 11 games, we lost Tiote, Collo, Saylor then the ACoN came along. This is the first time Pards has had all the players needed to play 433 with tiote and cabaye back together and now that Cisse is the front man Ba can play wide left. We simply didn’t have the quality of players and movement before so no, Pardew hasn’t just seen the light. Arfa has improved a lot. Why? Because now he knows if he doesn’t put the graft in, and play more to percentages then he’ll be dropped. Supreme handling by pards.

    Can’t beleive my eyes that some are still critical of Pardew – the guy is a bloody miracle worker along with his staff.

  • 57 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    Robby….Interesting. He certainly seems interested in our progress!

    It’s time for players stalling contract renewals to have a little think about other players who have done the same the past 2 seasons. We are on the up and there are players wanting to come to this new feel Newcastle side. Anyone in any doubt just needed to look at our ex-players faces on Sunday.

    Mind you, they did win the Carling Cup and my god am I impressed!

  • 58 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:39 PM


    I disagree, the “justified earlier criticism” was not justified. If you listen to Pardew’s interview after the game yesterday he has explained the HBA situation, he needed extra attention to focus his mind on what was expected of him for the benefit of the team. While he was getting himself up to speed AP had to play a formation that he felt would get us results. That was a 4-4-2 and it managed to get us results that propelled us to 6th in the league.

    Ever since HBA has come to the fore we are now able to play the formation that AP has probably always wanted to play. Any criticism of this team, our tactics or our manager were certainly not justified and I would wager that many would agree with me.

  • 59 JRP1970 // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    Best atmosphere of the season at St James’ Park yesterday, less hostile than against that Wearside bunch, more positive towards our team and of course the brilliant taunting of Enrique!
    We need more of that positive support in the ground, you can tell the team enjoy it and we’re starting to get home decisions as everything is met with a wall of noise!
    Good work Geordie boys….

  • 60 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    speakin of twittor i got that joke from @alan__pardew

  • 61 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    Spuggy…What you don’t realize is that Pardew has been reading this blog and taking the advise of posters…at last. The guy doesn’t have a clue 😉

  • 62 ilovetoon8788 // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    Yea some of HBA assists and goals came from him running from inside the half. That boy has some fantastic acceleration. Not pace i’m talking about, but his small frame allows him to accelerate in short distance so quickly even Enrique who has fantastic pace can’t match up with his acceleration.

  • 63 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    Rotonda…I can agree that at the beginning everyone was entitled to be wary of Pardew as manager. But on the basis that he was playing a 4-4-2 as a reason to call him a bad manager is crazy. There have been some frustrating games, there always will be. From day one the signs have looked good and that we’re a team in progress, still collecting points along the way. I still feel the stick Pardew has received is well over the top and certainly not justified…just my opinion

  • 64 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    Paying Ba, Cisse and Arfa as a front three is IMO one of the main reasons we’re now able to play a 433. Take Cisse away, then what are you gonna do? Shola, Ba and Arfa. Don’t think so – you’d play 442.

  • 65 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    *Playing haha Freudian slip!

  • 66 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    i believe we are now able to play 4-3-3 as cisse is settled and ben arfa has become a team player. before that it wasnt a viable option really. so i agree with spuggy

  • 67 Szarka // Apr 2, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    I dobt admire Pardew as I said a few times, but this 4-3-3 with HBA is a good choice, and once i feel AP did something good . Dont know if Santon and HBA could have been as good as now if they were playing all season from the start, maybe we could be even closer to the CL start. Mainly I think we got a really good squad , and I see even more potencial in them. How much is APs work i dont know, but must give credit for the table position we have. Maybe even Pardew could have developed trow the season.

  • 68 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    4-3-3 suits tiote and cabaye as well as the front 3! Cabaye is looking a better player in the last 3 games! A good attacking leftback ( would love to see shane ferguson getting a run) and davide santon remembering how to defend at right back and we’d be lethal going forward! Also think 4-3-3 would suit fringe players like sammy ameobi (currently injured i know) and Gabriel Obertan! The only player i struggle to fit in is jonas (maybe right back?)

  • 69 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    szarka – not being funny mate but pardews treatment of ben arfa is why we’re getting this hard working little magician and not the liability that played against blackburn and chelsea! Pardew deserves all the credit that goes his way, ive watched benny at lyon, and marseille, i never thought he could be this kind of team player! Before he played for himself, pardew, carver or whoever has got him playing his ass off for the team!

  • 70 Robby Bobson // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Well we had 433 before, for example against Brighton and it didnt work because Hatem was trying to link up with Shola and Best, so really 442 had been the best option until now really. You cant really say it was a bad choice when that got us 6th and Ba 16 goals.

    But now we have a front three who all can play the same type of football, its working a treat.

    I hope Pardew has the balls to keep the 433 away at Chelsea and Man City and just match them up.

  • 71 toonLYF // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    areet lads, a while ago somebody linked me with a site where you can download recent full matches from (newcastle 3-0 manu) wondering if anyone has the link cause i want sundays match for future enjoyment

    i’ve also been thinking about this new 4-3-3, and what about this for bolton…and maybe even swansea (obviously replacing a cb for colo, imo williamson, when fit)




    ——————-Ben Arfa———————


    i know benny has been playing really well out on the right, but since hitting full fitness we’re yet to give him a run out in his favourite role, i think he could really step up this time

  • 72 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    Jay…I think Gutti played well in the center against WBA. Personally if our main defenders are back I’d drop Guthrie for Gutti as part of the middle 3 any day…but that’s me.

    Szarka…Don’t think I’m bashing on you, but can I ask what you would have liked Newcaslte / Pardew to have achieved this season to make you admire him? I get the feeling from a lot of people as we’re not top 4 he’s not done a good enough job, which frankly is insane imo.

  • 73 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:11 PM

    codarm – yeah some fans expectations are pure ridiculous! Would have taken 7th after watching that first game of the season with arsenal in a heartbeat! Think people need to judge pardew on the performances of players like ryan taylor, james perch,danny simpson, even danny guthrie! Our squad is the weakest in the top 7, we should be nowhere near the likes of spurs and chelsea! Watch chelsea for example, when they make a sub, they bring on didier drogba, or michael essien, or bosingwa, compare those 3 to ameobi, james perch and ryan taylor! Mike williamson has played half our games and i honestly can only think of 1 or 2 other premier league teams he would get a game at! Yet we’re still challenging for top 4! Pardew deserves a medal!

  • 74 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:17 PM

    I love how people think being a manager is a simple case of choosing the players and the formation.

    Pardew had to contend with the fans (who didn’t like him at all when he arrived), win the respect of the players, help himself and his players cope with the devastation of losing Carroll at the 11th hour, as well as Nolan, Enrique and Barton (who he was desperate to keep).

    He then had to bring in on a budget a host of new faces and integrate them quickly into the squad and help them settle.

    In addition on a daily basis he had to:

    – ensure players are settled, motivate and instil confidence, especially when you don’t play them
    – Employ the right blend of backroom staff
    – Ensure the training regime and facilities is top notch (we couldn’t train for two winters before heating went in).
    – Give them specific instructions about their role in any formation
    – Research the other team thoroughly and point out their strengths and weaknesses, both to your team, and each team member.
    – Bring in the right players who will gel with the team
    – Do it at a bargain price in a competitive market
    – Handle the media well
    – Handle Derek and Ashley (no easy task) and convince them to spend money

    In spite of these tremendous odds against, Pardew has kept us in the top 6 all season and we’re now looking solid for Europe or at least a top 6 finish. We have one of the best young squads for many a year, we’re financially sound and looking forward to an exciting summer.

    Anyone who reads the above and sis still critical of Pardew wants there head checking. Has he always been right no – no one gets it right 100%, but he’s been right more often than not, and when he’s got it wrong he’s held his hand up.

  • 75 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    @ jayphoto

    Spot on – we have maxed out the potential of all our 2nd string players – the way people talk on here you’d think we had Cabaye, Tiote, Cisse and Ba available all season.

  • 76 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    Jay…The same fans would have taken 7th at the start of the season too. I understand there have been games we should have done better in and if we had we’d be higher up in the league and be looking at CL, but come on, there will always be “thrown” games. This season has been one hell of a success for us and a great platform to build from.

    I’ve seen people saying that Chelsea and Liverpool will throw loads of money at their teams this season and we will struggle to get top 6 next season. Well both of those teams have constantly thrown money at their teams and we’ve managed it. The secret? One would have to be Carr, he’s finding gem’s left, right and center and I expect that will continue. The second for me is the team spirit Pardew has going through everyone (except maybe Ranger). If we can keep up with the “Big Clubs” for the next 3 seasons whilst sticking to the current system set by Ashely and Llambias, then would be the time to re-look at our aims, targets and approach. For now, we need to give it time

  • 77 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    anyone think ashley/llambias deserve any credit?? I mean, 3 years ago they said this was there 5 year plan….and its obviously working! They brought graham carr to the club, and Alan Pardew! We’re possibly the most efficiently run club in the country and are performing on the field too! Success isnt just stopping at playing level! ive knocked ashley and llambias enough when theyve made mistakes, only fair we say fair does when theyre work pays off!

  • 78 AlwaysTOON // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:32 PM

    Hey guys

    Do you think we could be worried about losing our best players this summer? I mean, we always have some star players, who’s ending up going to other top 6 teams. But now, we should without any problems be top 6, maybe 4 if thing get perfect.
    – Ben Arfa is coming back to perfect form, and I can see top teams try to get to him, and Ba is world class, and we always hear roumors about top teams want him.
    .. But if the qual to EL or CL, I don’t think we should be worried… Just me ?

  • 79 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    Are people for real when they say Pardew could have had us in CL if he’d played more positively.


    Two seasons ago before this one we were in the championship. Everyone loses games they should have won, and wins games they should have lost. It’s called football.

    You know that Pardew puts up the player stats for them all to see after every match, including how many metres they have all run – genius idea as if you’re letting the team down it’s their for all to see.

    Sometimes it’s the little things 😉

  • 80 AlwaysTOON // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    But one other fact.. Jonas is the greatest man, a true magpie.. He turn down barcelona when we played in the championship!

  • 81 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    Ofc they deserve credit.
    Just as Perch or Guthrie does. They’re no different, it’s just a different scale of things.
    But they’re far from done when it comes to mending their wrongs.
    Perch and Guthrie are just players, these other two fellas run a dearly beloved club. Trust takes time mate.
    But ofc, they deserve massive credit, and i think the real owner is really start to showing his side and intent of things.
    I’m still sceptical towards DL.

  • 82 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:40 PM

    AlwaysToon. Europe will help players want to stay, but not the board wanting big pay days for players. Unfortunately it’s part of the business. Well, maybe unfortunately isn’t the word. If we hadn’t have sold Carrol for huge money, we would not have the squad we have now.

    It’s great that players are going to want to stay though and hopefully win some silverware!

    Spuggy…that’s what I’m saying. Madness. I suppose you have it at all clubs, even ferguson has his head called for as they’re not top all season. These fickle people are not fans of the club, but success only. I think they have the order mixed up

  • 83 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:41 PM

    don’t think the club would let ben arfa go! At the moment he is a 7/8m rated player! If he has a 6 months to a full season of hows hes played in last 6/7 games then he becomes a 20/30m player! Possibly the most naturally gifted player in the premier league, not many players can change a game on their own!

  • 84 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    Agree with Dannyo. It will take time to gain the fans trust as they have handled themselves badly in the past, even if it was for the “best interest of the club”. However, it’s just wrong when people say he’s trying to ruin the club. The man has invested in it, if it fails, so does he. Seems pretty simple to me. Do I think he would rather profit or success at Newcastle? Before I would have said profit, now I think it’s a balancing act. With success, we will be a lot more profitable. Not too hard for a business man to figure out

  • 85 martoon // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    Spuggy @74 that is a very good post. I would imagine there are even more tasks like charity functions etc. Obviously he doesn’t do all these jobs personally but has to delegate & supervise them which is why I think the term manager is much more appropriate than coach.

  • 86 ilovetoon8788 // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM

    We are bound to lose atleast 1 star player this summer to fund our other signings. That’s for sure. This is how our business worked under Ashley.

    Hes not going to spend more than we sell. So i expect tiote or Ba to leave and I trust our scouting team to find able replacements.

  • 87 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:01 PM

    The criticism of Pardew was justified.

    December was a nightmare – some bad bad results and shocking performances.

    January we recovered with the Manure & QPR wins.

    Then we hit an inconsistent patch .. Fulham, Brighton, Spurs, Wolves.

    10 poor performances out of 15 over 3 months.

    A few of us felt we needed to play HBA and go 433.
    We voiced our “Negger” opinion. (A term that should be dropped – it may be clever but it’s not nice).

    Now we’re playing 433 and HBA is magnificent we’re happy and we’ve stopped complaining …

    FUCKOV (formally known as Geoff777)

  • 88 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    The criticism of Pardew was justified.

    December was a nightmare – some bad bad results and shocking performances.

    January we recovered with the Manure & QPR wins.

    Then we hit an inconsistent patch .. Fulham, Brighton, Spurs, Wolves.

    10 poor performances out of 15 over 3 months.

    A few of us felt we needed to play HBA and go 433.
    We voiced our “Negger” opinion. (A term that should be dropped – it may be clever but it’s not nice).

    Now we’re playing 433 and HBA is magnificent we’re happy and we’ve stopped complaining … because we were right.

  • 89 jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    @87 in december ben arfa had no right to be in the starting line up! He made bad decisions and was a liability more than a couple of times! The coaching staff who work with him day in day out could see he wasnt ready yet! If he hadnt been held back for a bit it could have resulted in another injury, and i doubt we’d be seeing the form he’s in now!

  • 90 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:16 PM

    Geoff…Statement or opinion?

  • 91 lukes26 // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:19 PM

    @ Codarm…with tiote back in the line-up, it’s unnecessary to have Jonas play in the center….

    I’m not sure whether Ba enjoys his new role in the squad. our new style of play means that Ba has to expend a lot of energy on the wing… whereas previously he just waited in the center for a ball to be hoofed in his general direction.

    Ba scores typically from crosses into the box. our direct style of play now, with HBA cutting into the center of the box means that Ba has to play more technical football ….which he can do…but isnt his strongest attribute.

  • 92 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:20 PM


    I cannot accept that assessment, you have just looked at the fixture list and picked parts where we went on a bad run and parts where we “picked it up” and stated declaring that now we are playing 4-3-3 and playing well that you were vindicated for criticising Pardew for the entire season!!

    That is complete tosh sir and you know it. We played 4-4-2 in nearly every single game up until the West Brom victory last week! How do you explain that!? Luck!? Or was Pardew so tactically inept that he accidentally got us to 6th by playing 4-4-2?

    That was the most outlandish theory I have heard…”Now we’re playing well our entire season of neggar whining and moaning has been proven to be justified” My God man. What is wrong with you?

  • 93 martoon // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    Geoff @ 87 it is not quite as simple as you make out. We lost two of our key players in January to the ACON and only signed Cisse in January who could not play until returning from ACON. From memory I think Colo was out for a few matches and Cabaye got a suspension around the same time as well. You can’t honestly advocate a 433 with Shola, Best & HBA and a makeshift midfield and under strength back four.

  • 94 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    Luke….It’s not that I think it’s necessary, I just would always pick Jonas over Guthrie. For me, he offers so much more.

    I think Ba’s probably a bit frustrated to be out of the goals. I don’t think it’s about changing his game so much. If he had nicked a couple of goals he’d be all smiles. He must be due one again soon

  • 95 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:27 PM!/_Erik_Pieters_

    A couple positive post’s regarding Newcastle.

  • 96 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:29 PM

    Knights of OV unite! lol

  • 97 MacToon // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:33 PM


  • 98 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM

    Someone dives against Liverpool.
    Reaction: Abuse him.

    “Hand of God” Suarez cheating antics on a weekly basis.
    Reaction: Applaud him.

    Oh the bin dippers. Hypocrisy at it’s finest.

    On the subject of that 17 yr old lad Racially abusing Perch. I’m not surprised, their manager backed Suarez after he racially abused Evra, and ever since then their have been a couple of occasions where their fans racially abuse another player.

  • 99 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM

    Bored Mac?

  • 100 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:36 PM

    @ Geoff777

    In the games you mentioned:

    Fulham – Best and ameobi up front, no Tiote
    Brighton – Best and Ameobi up front, No Collo or tiote
    Spurs – no Tiote or Cabaye, spurs would have beat anyone that day
    Wolves – no tiote, and we drew this game, didn’t loose

    So you pick the 4-6 week period over the 5-6 good months, nice scientific approach there. Remember we didn’t have Cisse for the first half of the season.

    You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.

  • 101 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:36 PM

    Perchinho…It’s disgusting. There is no room for it in today’s society.

  • 102 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:39 PM

    To be fair, quite a few of those bashing Pardew were calling for his head cause they didn’t think Pardew could take the club forward.
    I can find a fair bit of quotes on that if u want.
    But there a selected bunch who continuasly fueled this constantly on nearly every thread.

    To be critical of Pardews tactic and selection, totally fair, so was i on several occations.
    When i say “those who bashed Pardew”, it was those who i’ve quoted earlier in my post. I’m not gonna pick out names cause they are not here atm.

    So i’m all up for selection debates and tactics and formation discussion, critisizm, or whatever it may be. What i have no toleranse for is people saying Pardew has come to his end, a year into the job, and has kept us top 6 all season.

    That is the difference.

  • 103 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:39 PM

    What the winter bad patch demostrated was that we have a quality 11, but we have no depth or at least the 2nd string weren’t performing.

    Perch, Guthrie and Williamson seem to be reaching there potential now thankfully – . Another credit to pardew.

  • 104 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:42 PM

    Sup mate, early day where u are? lol.

  • 105 fray bentos // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:42 PM

    OMG, the morons are still posting their delusions ogf negativity!!!! probably no point trying to convince or pursaude them anything really because if we aren’t challanging for the league title next season they will want him out, i don’t think Pardew can win with them whatever he does (unless he somehow by some miracle wins the league in the next couple of seasons), as they are just naturally negative people and can’t quite accept that keegan doesn’t manage us anymore

  • 106 Rotonda heights // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:44 PM


    It just annoys me a bit when some people with a ”I know better than anyone else” routine jump on a bandwagon where we are now finally playing passing football and claim that all the people advocating playing a 4-3-3 with Benny in the front 3, didn’t have a clue. That’s a bit rich.

    I would suggest that you are in fact being somewhat tedious, as in my post I said time to move on and enjoy it, however, which way we arrived at this new exciting formation.

  • 107 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    I’m starting to become a bit unsure about next season.
    If we get to Europe, that will be probably have an effect on the squad performance in the league, most likely.
    Will we be able to top or match this years achievements in the league? For me we should be able to push onwards really to do our best to push into the top 4.
    I think Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool will have a mighty rebuild to improve on what they’ve done bad this year.

    But what i do look really forward to is those back 4 being pure quality, cause we build so many attacks from there.

  • 108 Jail for Ashley // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    I’m with you on the term ‘neggar’ being dropped,its not a particularly nice word,and just because somebody isn’t happy about certain things shouldn’t have them labelled.

  • 109 fray bentos // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:50 PM

    its not really a offensive term, it just means sombody is negative

  • 110 LooneyToon41 // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    1) This time 2 years ago we were playing in the Championship.
    2) We currently do not have anywhere near the budget of the so called ‘Top Six’.
    = what we have achieved this year is nothing short of remarkable.

  • 111 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    @ Rotonda

    I find statements like this tedious “Pardew was getting it wrong back then, he’s getting it right now, so there’s no issue.”

    Your statement above. If you say pards got it wrong be prepared to back it up with facts. I agree with moving on I’m positive 9/10 and have always been an advocate or pardew. It’s negative people that irritate me, esp when we’re doing so well.

    I moved on 10 games into the season, when are you going to?

  • 112 nightfa11 // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    jayphoto // Apr 2, 2012 at 3:11 PM

    i dont agree that our squad is the weakest in the top 7..

    liverpool have a way worse squad..what do they have? suarez & skrtel..others are average.. but hba is better then suarez & colos better then skrtel..

    even chelsea now..with all oldtimers..

    & arsenal..goalkeepers are on the same level..our defenders are better..our midfield is better (tiote, cabaye, guthrie, perch vs. rosickey, diaby, song, arteta), but they MIGHT be better up front & thats only cos we have shola as a 4th forward & they have chemberlain..
    van persie better the cisse..(for now..)
    ba better then gervinho
    hba vs. walcott..not even a contest..

    based on names, performances & abilities our squad is 4th or 5th in the league.. but considering theyre playing their first season together ill be really happy with 6th..

  • 113 fray bentos // Apr 2, 2012 at 4:58 PM

    we do have a few very good players but in terms of squad depth we don’t compare with the top 6

  • 114 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:00 PM

    @ Dannyo

    I agree, we don’t want to over trade. If we make it into Europa it will put a strain on a thin squad – we’ve struggled to cope at time and we’re out the cups and not even in Europe.

    If we do make it, I hope Ashley gives Pards and the staff the backing they deserve to get us the 4-5 players we need for Europe. The brand recognition will do Ashley no harm at all and he’s a good business man so I’m sure he will recognise the opportunity.

  • 115 fray bentos // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:00 PM

    “based on names, performances & abilities our squad is 4th or 5th in the league.. but considering theyre playing their first season together ill be really happy with 6th”

    moronic statement, i suppose if were not challending for the title next season then you won’t be happy?!

  • 116 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:01 PM

    Think we’re getting stuck on the semantics of it all instead of focusing on the substance of the point at hand.


    I couldn’t care less if we played 4-4-2, 3-5-2, 4-5-1, 4-3-3, 4-4-2 Diamond, 5-4-1 etc as long as we got results.

    I also couldn’t care if we played slick football, boring football, hoofball, short-ball, attractive football, or tedious football as long as it got results.

    I also couldn’t care if we played Ameobi at right back, Simmo up front or Lovenkrands as a ball boy as long as it got results.

    Football is a results business and for me personally, Pards has got results which in my eyes makes him our “Special One”

    I also agree with you that we should be sitting back and enjoying this period of slick, passing football, but just bear in mind that sometimes needs must and in order to get results a more defensive minded approach is necessary.

    And finally, I don’t think people here who support Pardew adopt a “We know more than you” philosophy, I think we adopt a more “Pards knows more than you” philosophy. Which I think a lot of us adopt.

  • 117 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    I hope we get there, and i think MA will give some extra backing, but to an extent. But continusily getting into Europe will be the challenge. We need that stability. After 2-3 years, the big sponsors will come, and then we can mount a serious challenge.

  • 118 fray bentos // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:04 PM

    And finally, I don’t think people here who support Pardew adopt a “We know more than you” philosophy, I think we adopt a more “Pards knows more than you” philosophy. Which I think a lot of us adopt

    Well said

  • 119 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:04 PM

    @ GHosd

    Here here. If we’re going to move on people should stick to the present not the past – why say pardew got it wrong in the past (which I disagree with btw), just say he’s doing brilliantly now and we’re playing some great stuff AND winning.

  • 120 bollance // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    Pardew was having a great season even when we had a few periods where we did not pick up results. Man U lost at home to Blackburn and look at them now. Better example are Arsenal this season.

    Major difference at present is the confidence is returning and we are playing more forward passes rather then the ball quickly heading back to Krul, we all know what happens next!

    Really enjoyed watching game saturday as instead of grinding out results we are starting to play the passing football like at the start of the season.

    Still think a few player could get even better before end of season too.

    Next season is going to be even harder. The expectation is rising and fast. Probably we will start to pay higher fees for players (happy with buying strategy of past few windows). The squad we have will be even better next season as long as we don’t sell anyone as most of the players are u30.

    Need to keep momentum going against swansea. Shame our goal difference is so low. Could be a factor at end of season

  • 121 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:25 PM

    I just wanna say this; During our “poor run”, we lost 3 matches, two of them where big, fair play, but 3 matches…
    Since 01.01.12 we have lost 3 matches.
    I’ve seen worse form than that.

  • 122 matt11_25 // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    I just gotta give BA a shout out..

    BA was marvelous on Sunday. He never stopped taking people on and his work rate was tremendous. Have to say all the players work rate was good tho really great to see them fighting for europe together

  • 123 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:32 PM

    Btw, Guthrie has a calf strain, time to introduce Abeid, Vuckic or Gosling from the start…

  • 124 bollance // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:34 PM


    Before the Norwich game posters on here were calling for Pardews head. We were 6th at the time. Saying pardew got his tactics wrong. He is never going to get it right every match and he has had the decency to admit he got it wrong on a few occasions.

    Anyway looking forward to exciting end to season and busy transfer window. Should be able to attract better calibre of younger now we are a force in the prem

  • 125 Jail for Ashley // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    Form league since start of 2012 was shown we’re third,behind the two Mancs,so if that’s getting it wrong Pards carry on sunshine,and as ford the mackems being better than us under o neill,well the form table doesn’t lie.

  • 126 bollance // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    Guthrie could not command a regular place even in a team even if he moved. Too injury prone. Playing great football but usually stops around 75 minute mark. Don’t think he will stay on as knows he is lower than cabaye and tiote in pecking order. It will be a shame as he is very popular with the fans

  • 127 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    As someone intelligently posted earlier

    “You cannot reason someone out of a position that they did not reason themselves into”

    With that in mind, I really don’t think we are going to convince people that Pards has not “got it wrong” or “was tactically inept” etc These people are admitting now that the football on display has been excellent but still complain about where we “could have” been if it wasn’t for Pards’ ineptitude…

    Simply put, these people are morons. I am sorry for using offensive terminology but I must call a spade a spade 😀

  • 128 bollance // Apr 2, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Think we will see some different line ups in next couple of games.

    There is not much of a gap between Bolton and Swansea match so the back 5 will stay the same – Krul, simo perchinio Willo raylor

    Then the rest of the team will be made up of the following

    Santon (yes!)
    Guthrie (if fit)
    Obertan (if fit)
    And possibly vuckic gosling

    Watch out for it and don’t be disappointed if Shola starts. He has been excellent in his cameos. When ball played to him he retains possession and brings others into play. My only gripe with Ba is that the ball bounces off him too much and he loses possession. Lately Ba has retained possession much better. All is forgiven though.. 16 goals and counting!!

  • 129 Lew Davies // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    I think its fair to say Nobody was thrilled with the appointment of Pardew, from the outset.
    He didn’t have a great rep, and had been sacked from his 3 previous clubs for various reasons.
    However we also need to accept that he was chucked in at the deep end when he was offered the job, and was on a very steep learning curve right from the off.
    But bugger me rigid surely there cant be anyone left who doesn’t credit the fella with doing a fantastic job so far.
    Sure he has made some gaffs and got things wrong, but he also been man enough to admit it and take it on the chin. That takes balls, but also earns him respect too. Not just from us fans, but also from his players.
    I hope AP is our gaffer for the next ten years, if he can keep doing what he is doing now.
    He works damm hard behind the scenes and is learning all the time.
    I hope he gets acknowledged as Manager of the season for the outstanding work he is doing.

  • 130 Lew Davies // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    If you really want to see TACTICALLY INEPT then look no further than Dalgleash.
    nuff said imo

  • 131 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    Just watched the game again. Link #9

    The pace we were passing at was incredible.
    So many chances because the ball was played too fast or not quite into the right channel. (Not a criticism)
    On a good day we’d have won 10-0.

    Didn’t realise watching the game live how immense Tiote was, he just got better throughout the match.

    Perch, Simpson & Willo were great but all had lucky breaks that could have ended in penalties and/or red cards.

    To all the schoolboys with the pathetic name changes and this OV shite.
    Grow up this is a football blog.

    There’s plenty of room for different opinions.
    Don’t criticise people for being critical.
    Use your intelligence and footballing knowledge to counter with your point of view.

  • 132 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    Ok Geoff to counter your argument with your own point.

    Use your intelligence and football knowledge and state categorically as to how Pards “got it wrong”?

    As for the “OV Shite” seems like you are being pedantic and picking on small matters as you know your “football knowledge” is not as extensive as you may claim.

    I can and will counter your negativity with intelligence and footballing knowledge, but first I seek assurances that it won’t be wasted on you.

    The last time we had a debate you refused to answer my points because I did not include enough “white spaces”. Answer me this, whenever we were having that debate, were you using, as you aptly put it, “intelligence and footballing knowledge.”

    That question was rhetorical as we both know that you weren’t.

    So don’t criticise “the schoolboys with their name changes and OV shite” when 99% of the time you act like nothing but a spoilt brat and pathetic neggar.

  • 133 Vask // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    Anyone catch that Graham Carr interview on talksport? I just caught the bit when they were talking about his son. :/

  • 134 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    “a spoilt brat and pathetic neggar.”

    Cheers I won’t bother answering then.

    Yet another regular nufcblog fan posting less and less on here because of morons.

  • 135 GeordieGesus // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:43 PM

    Andy Carroll has apologised for heading straight down the tunnel. He was aiming for the bench.

  • 136 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:47 PM

    Won’t bother or can’t find an adequate response.

    Well you’ve all the white space you need, so there is something you can’t complain about.

    Moron? That’s a bit strong Geoff, but I suppose you can’t criticise Alan Pardew anymore so you’ve got to aim your vitriolic tripe at someone, so I’ll just be the sacrificial lamb then shall I?

    Grow up Geoff will you. If that is not, in fact, possible, try reasoning your responses like an adult.

    Finally adults don’t spit the dummy and say they are leaving because they don’t like what is said, they stay and defend their points. It is easier to leave when your point is very hard to defend, usually being because it is wrong.

  • 137 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:51 PM

    Geoff – well if you hadn’t gone dark when cornered on some of your negative points and come up with ‘all this white space sh*te’ maybe you wouldn’t be rounded on so easily.

    The OV thing is a joke well beyond your capacity, ok I accept the fact you don’t connect with it’s irony and see it on face value, but prefer to see it as some kind of bullying tactic for the pro ashley/pro Pardew ‘gang’. But nobody has barred you from making your opinions and surely you can’t be typed away from this blog, so just contribute and stop being so antsy when people disagree, you’ll save yourself an ulcer.

    Spuggy – if you’re still there, re: simmo, I detected a bit of exasperation when I suggested he does surge forward and sometimes leaves the back exposed, you countered with his goal-line blocks. OK yes, fine, but he’s not always there, especially when one of our forward runs breaks down, I can post many screenshots of his positioning when we’ve been caught on the break. It’s probably been asked of him and Santon to do this, but this is not good in my view – I can remember the last fantastic cross simmo got in, and it was in the championship. Santon is probably worse still and this can be lack of experience. I think this aspect of our team shape is the last-ish piece of the jigsaw and if sorted out we will be even better.

  • 138 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    GG lol

  • 139 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    GG @ 134 – 🙂

  • 140 Offkey // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    Dont make this OV stuff sound intellectual…….

  • 141 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    Launching personal attacks all the time against people with different opinions to your little OV clique/cult makes the blog tedious to read.

    I really can’t be bothered any more.

    Pleased you took my white-space comment to heart, your vitriol is so much more readable now.

    I thought we should play HBA more and go 433 and dared to be critical of Pardew. Hang me at dawn.

  • 142 rknufc // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    im trying to get tickets for the newcastle v bolton game but i dont think theres enough time for the tickets to be shipped over.. does anyone know if you’re able to collect the tickets from st.james park on the day of the match??

  • 143 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    I really don’t think anyone has tried to make this OV thing intellectual. It is merely a joke that we carried on. It’s only meant to a representation of fostering a more optimistic outlook on things. I believe Tsunki was being ironic by claiming it was beyond Geoff’s capacity.

  • 144 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    @ Tsunki

    I agree 100%. Simmo is not great going forward, but he’s not that bad a at defending. We don’t need screenshots. We know his strengths and limitation but the important point is he’s done a job for us this season, he is part if this success. I’d love to see us bolster the FB and provide more depth at CB, but I’m not sure it’ll happen at this stage of development. Here’s hoping!

  • 145 Offkey // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    GHOSD – Tsunki said ‘The OV thing is a joke well beyond your capacity’

    Unless he is calling Geoff a bit special, which I hope he wouldn’t, he must be saying you must have a superior intellect to understand the joke.

  • 146 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    My vitriol? Cult/clique? We make this blog tedious to read?

    Wow, I always thought that my overly optimistic approach to things would lead me to being labelled delusional but that mantle belongs to you Geoff. You do understand what vitriol means? It means cruel and bitter criticism.

    You have been vitriolic in your approach to Pardew, in fact HBA’s performances in the last few games do not vindicate your assumption that HBA should have been played sooner, it vindicates Pards’ decision to NOT play him and make him work on his game.

    Had AP listened to the likes of you HBA would not be working as hard and would not be putting in the kinds of performances that he has done against WBA and yesterday against Liverpool and that is a well held opinion here.

    The OV thing was a joke man, it was a bit of fun. A few of us decided that we were fed up with the neggars running this blog. Because of bloggers like you and Indian, other positive bloggers like WWJBD have been posting less and less. I am not saying any blogger is better or worse than another it is just that with your tripe you are forcing positive people away.

    Human nature draws us to positive people and if by forcing you to leave it brings people like WWJBD back then I will gladly accept that.

    If too, you wish to engage in an intelligent discussion about our season and how it has went so far I will do so too, but it has to be reciprocated.

  • 147 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:03 PM


  • 148 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:05 PM


    Like I said, I think Tsunki was being ironic. The OV thing is not hard to get and he was merely making a “tongue-in-cheek” comment. I don’t wish to speak on his behalf but I don’t think he meant that we are more intelligent than anyone. He may have been slagging off Geoff’s intelligence though.

    Was that what you were doing Tsunki? You rascal? 😛

  • 149 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:06 PM


    No it is beyond my capacity.
    I just stopped reading the posts about a fortnight ago, it got so silly, I gave up.
    I’m sure if you are involved it’s cool or whatever.

    This “Neggar” word should be banned by mutual agreement – it is horrible, if everyone can agree to please stop using it.

  • 150 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    I think u’re missing the bench here and walking down the tunnel instead.
    Read post #36. I replied to your defense about critizising AP, but i never got a response from u.
    I think that’s where the issue lies.

  • 151 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    Well worth a listen.

  • 152 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    I agree with the neggar thing! See geoff we can agree – progress.

    Now anyone for a cyber group hug?

    Why are we arguing? We’re 6th, pushing for Europe?

  • 153 Vask // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:10 PM

    Cheers Dannyo, heard the arse end of it before and was gutted I missed it.

  • 154 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:10 PM

    Cheers Dannyo will have a gander

  • 155 Vask // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    Finally readjusting his goals after a wake up call from the reception of Hotel Newcastle United.

  • 156 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:12 PM


    Is the concept of humour beyond you? People like cheick the toastie don’t like it either but they don’t use it as an excuse to stop posting on a blog about their football club.

    For a few days it may have been a bit silly, but so what? Life needs a bit of light hearted banter sometimes. I will not bow to the negative pressures of you or anyone like you in trying to get me other like minded positive people to conform to your “no nonsense, serious all the time, hyper critical approach”

    The OV banter has died down, we have maintained the name changes but does that impact upon the validity of what we say? Not in the slightest, my original name is Ruddy Marvauex-lous if you don’t like the name change just call me Ruddy for chrissake and stop acting like a child.

    And will you comment about the football as you have been lamenting about in your previous post. You have yet to categorically state how Pards has “got it wrong” this season… I must say I cannot fathom how getting your team to 6th could possibly be described as “getting it wrong” but I look forward to your attempt

  • 157 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    S is such a neglected letter imo. 🙂

    it was meant to read:

    Sorry, spuggy if my ‘screenshots’ jab was a bit tinged with the ol’ tabasco but what I am trying to say is, Simmo has been an ever-present and has saved our necks – I think he may be pressed as part of our style to overlap, I am just trying to say that this is a weak point of his game, he accomplishes the actual overlap but very little product comes of it, and on some occasions in the past it has deeply exposed us and undone much of the good work he has done sometimes. I think that he is slowly getting to the point where he is being suitably conservative and more discerning about when it is wise to do so, which is good. Santon, on the other hand has much to learn to catch up with Simmo in his basic defensive game, so the running forward thing really has cost us in his case, ergo he is currently dropped.

    We played an uncharacteristically weak-breaking Liverpool team, had we faced spurs on sunday I think Mr Bale would have assisted in a very different outcome against a free-running Simpson if he ended up in front of HBA as much as he did against the scousers. Imho of course.

  • 158 Robby Bobson // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:13 PM


    yer there’s box office collection at the ground…think its up the stairs on the corner outside the gallowgate end if i remember correctly.

  • 159 Vask // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    Anyone know if the bolton game is a category C?

  • 160 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    Hi Dannyo

    I didn’t think it needed a reply, it didn’t seem to question my point at #35.

    I’ve also actually watched a replay of the game and done a bit of work, I’ve also fed and watered my donkeys. So I haven’t been on this thread all day.

    As to my intelligence – I’m a university educated computer programmer with an IQ tested at 148 & 150.
    I don’t profess to be a statistical genius about football, but I try to be fair and just say what I think.

    We all support the same team here after all.

  • 161 Jail for Ashley // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    Don’t you think WWJBD is just spending a bit more time at his studies instead of wasting his life posting on here.

  • 162 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:18 PM

    Btw, we got Cisse for £8 mill… Official from Carr, what a steal… They originally wanted £15…

  • 163 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    Geoff – yes I was just jangling you tinkling thing there. You are a bit of a biter though 🙂 The top and bottom of it is, everyone is free to have a raging argument but when you want to slip something in that borders on irrational because you can’t bear to back down on a previously off-the-mark post, be prepared for the full buckshot blast of irony, digs and general jeering that will coe with it. I’ve had a dig at Pardew, Obertan and Guthrie I think in the past, but if I’ve been well off, and it gets pointed out, I will eat a large slice of that pie even without custard. It’s not hard, we don’t know where you live and you won’t get your house bog-rolled.

  • 164 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:21 PM


    He came on himself and said that he doesn’t post as regularly because he was sick of all the “Negative Posters” shall we use that term for the now disposed “neggar” phrase?

    Geoff you seem to be making a habit of just saying what you think and not replying to people’s queries.

    I’ll try again. In your opinion, how has Alan Pardew got it wrong this season? Given that with the 4-4-2 system being used all season we have got to 6th AND beat Manure with it, spanked them in fact.

  • 165 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    Box office is now in the shop near the strawberry I think the proper one is shut for the minute. Bolton shouldn’t be a sell-out normally but I dunno with present form it just might of a Bank Hols afternoon.

  • 166 Jail for Ashley // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    According to the mail today we got him from Wolfsberg for 9M,Ace reporter.

  • 167 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:25 PM


    Geoff you seem to be making a habit of just saying what you think and not replying to people’s queries.

    Possibly because I come on for half an hour, say my bit, then go and do something else … I have a life.

  • 168 Vask // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:25 PM


    Is that a category C game?

  • 169 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    Plus additionally and also too – I was going to write a tirade on the subject of the very existence of this blog in particular, and how well-staffed and populated it is, but that’s for later, as I now have to drag my lardy butt round an all-weather footy pitch. sayonara, scrabble-dabblers! 🙂

  • 170 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    Oh dear me, so sorry, i dunno why i directed u at that post.
    I mean post #101.
    I hope the intelligence argument isn’t aimed at me, as i have no hand in the current shit throwing.
    Post #101 holds my reply on the “Pardew bashing”.

  • 171 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    I’m leaving now.

    Going to watch the first episode of the new Game of Thrones series.

    Plus the final episode of Lost Girl …

    Apologies for not replying …

  • 172 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    Oh so you voice your opinion and refuse to listen to what people have to say about it?

    You seem like an incredibly pleasant person.

    As you said earlier

    “there are room for different opinions….” just so happens that you will voice yours and not entertain others. Not as co-operative and engaging as you make yourself out to be are you?

  • 173 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Vask I think it is. So its a £20-25 ticket in the right places, if available.

  • 174 Jail for Ashley // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    Haven’t seen Boater for a long time now either I think the Shola bashing got to him.

  • 175 Vask // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    Cheers Tsunk I think me lass has a couple of free tickets to a cat C game, it must be the last one of the season. Think i’ll have a look at ticket availability.

    Have a good game, mate.

  • 176 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    Lol, there are a few who are currently absent atm Jail, for various reasons.
    I miss allot of em. Sparks were flying at times, lol.

  • 177 geoff777 // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:31 PM


    If you check the times at post #101 and my post at #131 where I say I have just watched the match again.

    You’ll see why I didn’t reply … sorry.
    I watched a full replay and some of the interviews.

  • 178 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    How about we remove the united from Newcastle?

  • 179 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    I can’t remember the last time boater posted either! He was a regular too.

    At the start of the season the bashing was constant and interchangeable. First Obertan, then Simpson, then Perch, always Shola even until he scored against the Mackems the abuse he got was constant.

    It just goes to show you that Negative Posters serve no purpose if their opinion is destructive. I can accept a negative opinion if it is a rationally thought out and reasoned argument, but if it is just criticism for criticism’s sake then it really grates on me.

    We should make an urgent plea to get these people back! Although the way things are on this blog, if it is still negative even while we are doing amazingly I dread to think what it would be like if things went tits up…

  • 180 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:35 PM

    Aye, i have no qualms about wether or when u replied or not mate.
    I was simply saying that post #101 shows my view on the AP bashing. No one expects anyone to be on here all day. I’m certainly not, lol.
    Enjoy Game of Thrones 😉

  • 181 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    And have Newcastle Sports Direct instead u mean? Lol.

  • 182 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:39 PM


  • 183 MagPieMan // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    Does anyone know if this is Pieters real account? Because he has been tweeting aboute Newcastle.!/_Erik_Pieters_

  • 184 wingspan // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM

    Pards and simmo interviews from today. Sorry if its a repost.

  • 185 wingspan // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:46 PM

    yeah i wanna know if that Pieters thing is true too!! Seems keen on the the toon if it is real!!

  • 186 Jail for Ashley // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    I reckon atm we are the envy of many a club in not only in the Prem but the whole footballing world,full houses well in week out a great team spirit with an incredible work ethic and most important for the people in charge were in a healthy financial position,also for the first time in years we seem to be getting a lot more media attention for our on field antics rather than off,I can’t let my personal dislike for Mashley and Derek dastsrdly cloud my judgement that the club is definitely moving lb the right direction.

  • 187 jimjim // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:49 PM

    does anyone have a decent link for the manure game?

  • 188 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    The Pieters thing is true, yes.

  • 189 Yohan4 // Apr 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    reading between the lines it seams everyone find Geoff and Rotonda’s opinions both insighful and accurte 🙂 not a dig guys 🙂

  • 190 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 2, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    Some really good posts on both sides of the watershed – the one between optimism valley and the other place. What did Indian call it – something hole ?
    Pity it degenerated into handbags at dawn.

    I think the silver fox stands a very good chance of getting manager of the season. We stumbled after the Chelski game – but Saylor had been a rock for us, then Collo was out too and we lost forwards to ACON and guys went in and out of form. The real test of an outstanding manager is how he deals with the inevitable dips in team performance, form and confidence during a season. I was a bit concerned after the fiasco at Anfield despite some green shoots even in that game – but since then our form has almost matched Citeh and Manure, according to MOTD2, so we have pulled out of that poor patch.

    The goat curry thing is a fantastic way of team building. I’ve consistently posted that AP was working towards a 4-3-3 so I’m feeling specially smug, but couldn’t have dreamed how well HBA is playing, and picking up counterattacks inside our own half, and how BA is playing to drag defenders out of position, and Cisse’s magic finish – these guys are still learning how to play together and will be stunning next season.

    For those neggers who think Pardew’s got it wrong. Exactly who do you think could have done a better job for the Toon this season ?

  • 191 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

    Been reading some reactions from yesterdays game from the bindippers supporters. Also viewing some footages i didn’t see on telly.
    I’d say Dalglish has lost his dressing room.
    One more defeat and he’s toast.

  • 192 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM

    Sadly, I even have to admit the two geezers have got it right at last too.

  • 193 Dannyo // Apr 2, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Did Chicarito hurt his shin on Handleys bullocks? A few minutes back…

  • 194 achtoon // Apr 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    Jail you may have to change your name to knighthood.

  • 195 toonking // Apr 2, 2012 at 8:23 PM

    well from what i have read today guys how on earth can is it that i still see people being negative with pardew this season. look if you want to speak any negativity it should be aimed not at pardew, the players or our owner and chairmen but aimed at the likes of sky because jeff stelling is the only one who seems to be giving praise to newcastle rather than coming up with excuses for the wins. Just face it this i only the second season back in the premier league since promotion and very rarely do teams do as good in the second year after promotion as they did in the first year.

    this season our aim was 10th or higher so to get 6th is an astonishing achievement next season i would say the aim should be focus on league position and just 1 of the cups and wait till 2015-16 before thinking of an aim to get champions league as that is the season where we could have a squad big enough to contain cover and starting 11 plus that is when there won’t be a ACON to disturb team structure.

  • 196 mindshaft // Apr 2, 2012 at 8:24 PM

    Wouldn’t read to much into the Pieters comments – he’s a big mate of Kruls so obviously wants his team to win, wouldn’t mind him signing though 🙂

  • 197 Jail for Ashley // Apr 2, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    Well,just looked at the fixture list and my new rotation and that’s my season over as far as getting to a game,makes it all the more sickening I left it too late to get tickets yesterday. 🙁 hmpphh.

  • 198 Rotonda heights // Apr 2, 2012 at 8:39 PM


    if you have as you claim, let it go, why are you still bringing it up and feel the need to respond ad nauseum.

  • 199 kilcline // Apr 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    Did you know? Newcastle have won 60% of Premier League games with Williamson playing this season, compared to 38% without him.

  • 200 geordiejamie89 // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:07 PM

    Can’t see Obertan getting much game time next season like, hopefully whatever midfielder we sign is comfortable on the right. Could do with two centre mids really. Two strikers, a LB and a CB, that’s without sales of first teamers.

  • 201 Les Grossman // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:09 PM

    Don’t know if anyone knows but Carroll didn’t stop at the dressing room! He got his suit on and jumped in a taxi back to Liverpool!!

  • 202 geordiejamie89 // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    I’d have left the country if i’d had the day he’d had to be fair. Done a Tevez.

  • 203 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    I would rather we didn’t get personal on here with arguments.
    People need to calm down when somebody disagrees with their opinion. Ideally we should debate not argue while pushing our opinion a fact.
    Put the handbags away ladies. And i don’t like the term neggar either. Its a bit of a slur.

  • 204 Spuggy // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:24 PM


    Because I feel compelled to respond to ridiculous negative comments. My comments when I am not responding to negativity are generally always positive I think you’ll find.

    I simply DO NOT understand why ANYONE should be negative with the season we have had. If you are, you seriously need to manage your expectations.

  • 205 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    @ghosd things will not go tits up mate

  • 206 rich_toonfan // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    I hate how some people claim Pardew got it wrong early in the season.

    Nobody complained about 4-4-2 when we were on our 11 game unbeaten run, it only became an issue when we lost.

    The fact is Pardew knows exactly why he didn’ play Ben Arfa, we don’t. It could be anything from fitness, sharpness, losing possession, decision making, being unable to play 100% for long enough.

    And the system we play now of 4-3-3 is down to having Cisse, Ben Arfa and Ba all available, all fit and having developed an understanding through training and matches since they returned from Africa.

  • 207 rich_toonfan // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    And looking at the form guide since the start of January we are 3rd, only behind Man Utd and City.

    The fact people say we had a poor december nd should get more points is a pointless argument, all teams face spells where they have a lack of form.

    You could easily take the form over 2012 and say we should be third with this standard or take our form over the last 3 games and say we should be top of the league.

    Equally you can take our december form and say we should be bottom 3……the fact is the league is based n 38 games….where you end up is where you deserve.

    And as things stand we are 6th, only 5 points off third. If we play to our best we could beat swansea, bolton, stoke and wigan and maybe be in top 4 after that run.

  • 208 Munster Mag // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:39 PM

    I’m sorry guys, but there are too many nice guys like GHOSD trying to be reasonable with idiots like Rotunda. There is no point in this. Reasoning with buffoons who think they know everything is pointless. And Geoff, for a guy with an apparently high IQ, you need a head shake. I mean, put simply, what the hell do you want or expect? No doubt, like nearly all managers, Pards will be sacked one day. And you will be on here , telling us how you were so right on this blog in 2012.

  • 209 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:41 PM

    @spuggy. There is sometimes a mentality of never being happy.
    The best way to look at things both ways. Talk about the good points and bad point.
    We are doing brilliantly but where can we improve.
    There is no perfect season for anybody. But this has been a great one.
    Not having a go at you. I think im agreeing really

  • 210 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:45 PM

    @munstermag. Ah the good”i told you so” culture. There are a lot of people who will find something to complain about regardless of any form or victory

  • 211 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:47 PM

    @rich well said in 204 & 205

  • 212 WWJBD // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:52 PM

    Evening gent, whats the topic of argument today?

  • 213 rich_toonfan // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:55 PM


    I just think some people are never happy….I don’t mind people saying this player is under performing our this guy could be replaced by better, etc….as this is true. We need to strengthen in certain areas.

    What annoys me is when they criticize the manager for not picking a player they want and then almost take credit for his good performances when he is picked.

    If Benny came back too early and wasn’t fully fit, tore his hamstring and was out for a couple months they would all complain we rushed him back.

    There is much more to football than picking your 11 best players. You need to see what is available to you and pick a system that best suits the players you have available.

    For example look at England….they constantly pick 11 players they think are the best and squeeze them into a formation that doesn’t work and wonder why we never win anything.

    Pardew has used the squad which has been stretched to it’s limits and managed to consistently pick up points through out the season.

    If we add the players we are rumoured to be linked with (or a similar style of player) we will be able to rotate our players and still play the same 4-3-3.

    It took mancini 2 years to get City playing the good football they did this year. I remember last year they played defensive football and tried to win 1-0 most weeks, it got them champs league, they improved the squad and now play a much better, attacking brand of football.

  • 214 Tino Asprilla // Apr 2, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    Hoilett looked decent again tonight for Blackburn, when they actually managed to get into Utd’s half.. Shame Arsenal/Spurs will be front of the queue to nab him in the summer

  • 215 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:04 PM

    that comment on England is priceless because its so true.
    You need only look at the payers that get left out of the starting line up of some of the best international teams.
    Yet for years we’ve been trying to force gerrard and lampard into the same underperforming team

  • 216 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:04 PM


    Whether neggar is a term that should be banned as it is disrespectful.

    Lots of handbags and slagging off AP’s decision making and defending it

  • 217 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    @ ricj

    good post.
    England might underperform for another ten years unless they poach the silver fox 🙂

  • 218 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    sorry rich

  • 219 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:11 PM

    @214 don’t give them any ideas

  • 220 rich_toonfan // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    Does anybody see us becoming like Tottenham.

    They had a few individuals in an average team. These were carrick (at the time) and Berbatov. These 2 players were sold for 20 and 30 mil respectively and they used that money to get in Bale, Van der Vaart, friedel, modric, parker…etc.

    We may have sold carroll but no doubt they money has been used well. If we sell Ba or Tiote (which i dont want to happen) we might do a similar thing again.

    You might loose your best player but if that gets you 3/4 players of equal or slightly lower quality it improves the team as a whole.

    I think we are building steadily and I can’t see many players wanting to leave come the summer and in fairness since we got back in prem league we have only sold:

    carroll – cant turn down 35 mil (ashley turned down 20, 25 and 30 before that)

    nolan and barton – noisy and not signing new deals

    enrique – didnt buy into our plan nd wouldnt sign contract

    So it’s not like we are a conveyor belt selling our players to big clubs. Only 2 of those have gone to a ‘bigger’ club.

  • 221 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:14 PM

    Glad to see ya WWJBD! 😀

    MunsterMag I know I probably should not engage with these people but it does frustrate me a great deal, and I would like to tease out why these people decide to hold these misinformed views about the club and, more annoyingly, the manager.

    These people are undoubtedly ‘purists’ that long to see the club play with the same reckless abandon that saw us dubbed the “Entertainers”. For anyone who thinks like this I would say to them, those days are gone and we have a new direction, a direction that we have lacked for a decade. Alan Pardew has not suddenly realised that he should play 4-3-3 and put HBA on the pitch, he has probably always wanted to do this, but for reasons we will not understand HBA was not ready and AP played the formation that best suited his other players and would get him the best results possible and he was spot on in doing so.

    We are a work in progress and in our second season back in the Premier League we are on course for the best position since the heady heights of the days of SBR, if that does not make you proud of both your club and your manager then I do not know what else to tell you.

    Pards makes mistakes sometimes, not often, but sometimes. He learns from them, corrects them and then gets us back on track. Our form in 2012 is bested only by the Manc clubs, something that is absolutely astonishing in my view.

    Be proud of the season so far, look forward to the last 7 games with excitement and be hopeful for the future and stop dragging the rest of us down with your Negative Posting.

  • 222 paul_nufc_87 // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    Thinking about our front three I can see marveaux coming in on the left to replace Ba when we do play with a lone striker. That leaves Cisse or Ba through the middle and the other on the bench which will be a great option to have. IF we make europe however having a big squad to cope with injuries and suspensions which is the one area we have struggled with a little being so light at centre back and short up front before Cisse arrived.

  • 223 Jail for Ashley // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    Would you Adam and Eve it I popped into a pub to ask directions and the Man u game was 0-0, by the time I got to my hotel 0-2 incredible,thought that City had that title sewn up months ago.

  • 224 WWJBD // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    Oh sounds the standard chat then eh haha 😉 Banning neggar? I am entirely not bothered about that at all I have been called it multiple times and never bothered me

    As for AP am not touching that tonight cant be bothered

    Evening fella hows tricks? Judging by that post I take it u have been having some battles today?

  • 225 rich_toonfan // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:18 PM


    Totally agree.

    And remember this is the biggest team Pardew has managed and he has never been in this position with a team before.

    He is learning all the time as well and will pick up things along the way to improve himself as a manager. He will feel the pressure and expectation of finishing in a European place and he is handling it well.

  • 226 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:19 PM


    I’ll second that emotion…..

  • 227 JTOONJ // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    Couldn’t believe how good the atmos was yesterday, best atmos all season excluding the game against mackems. LETS KEEP IT UP, it obviously affecting our team and made scousers shakey!

  • 228 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:21 PM


    All in a day’s work for me mate 😉

    Well I just don’t understand why some people foster these views about AP. He has got results and got the best out of some seemingly ordinary individuals, as well as re-shaping the direction of the club in the long term.

    I seriously do not understand some people.

  • 229 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:22 PM


    I never figured you as a neggar / nagger

  • 230 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:22 PM

    Ah ghosd. Pardite and proud.
    He’s always done the best he can with the team he has. Its really coming together now.
    I still laugh at all those people who complained that kadar wasn’t in at the back against norwich. A guy who had not been near the first team since the championship season.
    Some people are so unrealistic.

  • 231 Toon Tang // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    thats it for man shitty then eh. they must be kicking themselves how they let it slip. i woulda loved to see the 2 horse race go reet to the wire

  • 232 tarie4 // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    Good evening lads
    I am over the moon.So proud of the boys. The highlight for me yday was not the performance or the result or the look in enrique’s face. It was the support. St james was rocking yday. We cheered every tackle every pass every dribble. I was so proud of the support. We are truely the most passionate without a doubt.

  • 233 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    Well this has been nice. 🙂

    Just got back from footy I am jiggered. So, is ‘neggar’ banned. I certainly hope so it’s appalling. It should be spelled ‘negger’ so lets stop messing with that! Show Iliterarsy the Read Kard I say.

    Yes, I remember Boater. It was all so different then, emotions ran high…..

  • 234 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    @229 don’t go through all the vowels please?

  • 235 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    As ardent a Pardite as they come HOVIS, you know that! 😉

    We were missing 3 first team CBs, 3-1 down, a man down and apparently not bringing HBA showed how “tactically naive” he was…some people are not unrealistic, just downright delusional! ha ha

  • 236 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    toon tang – hmm both citeh and Manure have a couple of interesting run in games yet. I would probably like to see the reds pipped still. definitely want to see citeh beat arsenal.

  • 237 Baro // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    We have a really great squad to challenge higher and higher! We have two great goalscorers, only one backup as best is injured. One striker in the summer would be great. A young talented one. For the wings we have ben arfa, sammy ameobi, marveaux, jonas, obertan, fergie. I think we are good on the wings. Center mid we have Cheik and Cabaye starting. wether guthrie stays or not idk. We still have Dan Gosling, and mehdi abeid, michael richardson. I think Haris Vuckic is a center attacking mid. Then we have 3 center backs, willo , collo, and staylor who is my favorite player. We will need Douglas in this team, and a young one. We have Simpson at right back, wether tavernier stays or not as his contract is up idk. We certainly need a right back next year. I really really really hope we sign Erik Pieters. He is a starting left back and is successor to Giovanni Van Bronkhorst. I want him at starting left back. Then i hope santon goes to right back. Him and simmo can fight it out. Then we have a future legend in Tim Krul. I honestly love our squad! We have so much versatality. Ryan Taylor and James Perch, and Jonas for example. All we are missing is a center back, a wing back, and a back up striker. Then we have a side that will challenge the top 4 any day of the week….

    Howay The lads…..!!!!!!!!

  • 238 WWJBD // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    Haha aye its a fair point Pards has done some pretty good things and seems to know his squad very well dont argue with that but he has made some mistakes which have annoyed me over time I cant lie. Easy to forget though that NUFC are the biggest club he has ever managed with a lot of fans with huge expectations and he was roundly disliked when he came in so hes done a fine job

    Just wait til the transfer window lad 😉 tbf I have been called just about everything possible on here

  • 239 Toon Tang // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:34 PM

    tsunki, most definitely mate, id prefer man titties to take it but i cant see manure letting them points slip now , even with the trip to etihad.

    weve still got em at our gaff as well , so thats dropped points reet there haha . if we play like we did against liverpoo and manunited we will kill em

  • 240 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    @ghosd but Ben arfa would have cured the defensive problems. Didn’t you know he’s was a 6’6″ centre half in France before he moved to newcastle and was trained as a shorter faster winger?

  • 241 Tsunki // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    toon tang – the defence rests. 🙂

  • 242 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM


    That’s a minimum but I’d got with that for starters. Would also like to see another FB who can double as CB and good in the air as backup, though Perchino has proved a lot of us wrong the last three months.

    Isn’t it great how Pards has managed to improve some of the squad players this season.?

  • 243 geordiejamie89 // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    Yea I hope we evolve in the way Spurs has.
    Most of the money from the Caroll sale is now gone, so finishing as high as we can is important. We know that teams are given so much, depending on their league position.
    We are going to have a fair bit from finishing sixth, and add to that a list of players i believe are due to leave at the end of this season:
    Alan Smith 60,000
    Lovenkrands 15,000
    Guthrie 15,000
    Gosling ?
    Xisco 50,000
    Nile Ranger 15,000
    Leon Best?? perhaps leaving, 30,000
    Simpson, 10,000 perhaps leaving.
    That leaves a fair bit, and given there will be a bit of transfer fees received aswell, we should a fair bit to go in with during the summer. And with Graham Carr having said he’s been going to an average of two or three games a week, we must have a decent shortlist. All looking good so far.

  • 244 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    Are we all in a good enough frame of mind to put our hands together for Mr Ashley and Mr Lambias – or is that too much to hope for ? TIC

  • 245 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    @244 i think most of us are

  • 246 Toon Tang // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM

    ill put me hands together for ashley after summer when we’ve retained our better players. lambias can suckle my oversized, ostrich egg, hand stitched, leather ballbags . heel never get a round of applause . he hast handled himself reet from the start

  • 247 WWJBD // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    When they are leaving Newcastle never to return I will put my hands together for them if that counts?

  • 248 davybtoon // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    God we’ve won 3 games in a row n u lot fighting lol some things never change

  • 249 Tino Asprilla // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Here’s an interesting one.

    Obviously we all want to see us strengthen through the summer (as I’m sure we will) but at the same time we’re all a bit nervous about top players leaving the club.

    If someone were to say you could start the 2012/13 season with exactly the same squad, would you? Guaranteeing no departures, but no new arrivals? Or would you just trust Ashley & Co to pull off another decent window and wait and see who’s on our books come September?

  • 250 geordiejamie89 // Apr 2, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    Having said that I think we need a few signings.
    LB, CM, CM, STX2, and perhaps a decent right winger. Without Hatem we could be weak on the right hand side, unless Obertan swaps his right leg with Valencia, and his left with Hatem. Berbatov for Newcastle would be great, and a young striker, maybe that Morata. Sell Leon Best, then that gives us five up front. Enough to cope with tournaments and injuries. And Shola for the sunderland games!

  • 251 LooneyToon41 // Apr 3, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    @249 Tino. Great question. The evolution of our transfer policy is very interesting, and of course in line with the reality of Uefa Fair play rules etc. At the moment we don’t have the revenues to pay the very high wages (Liverpool’s wage budget is double that of NUFC), but hopefully, this will change overtime. Right now, i think we have to be realistic and say that selling one our stars might be good business in the long run, regardless of how initially disappointed we may be. Until we get our revenues up to match the so called ‘top six’ we are still a selling club.
    So in answer to your question, having the exact same line up for 2012/2013 means we have been stagnant in the evolution of our transfer policy, so no…i’d prefer us to sell if need be, and re-invest wisely.

  • 252 Owldman // Apr 4, 2012 at 8:20 AM

    If you go on a tour of St James Park you will be taken to see the dressing rooms you will see what the players favourites are at half time ! Jaffa Cakes & Wine Gums + their high energy drinks

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