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No Fair-Play Europa League Place For Newcastle

11:39 am, Wednesday, April 4th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 112 Comments

The English Premier League gets four teams that qualify for the European Champions League and three teams that qualify for the Europa League.

Europa League Badge

The Champions league positions are the top four places in the league, but the Europa places are not all determined by league positions, although they are in all other countries expect England and France.

The Carling Cup winner and the FA Cup winner get entry to the Europa League from England and 5th place in the Premier League also gets a berth.

But three more overall berths are awarded each year by UEFA to those countries that finish in the top three places of the UEFA Fair Play table.

Teams are judged on the following criteria and are awarded points in the following categories:

  • Yellow and red cards
  • Positive play – attacking tactics, acceleration of the game, efforts to gain time, and continued pursuit of goals
  • Respect to the opponent – like returning the ball to the opponent at a throw-in, helping an injured opponent (whoops)
  • Respect to the referee (whoops)
  • Behavior of the team officials (whoops)
  • Behavior of the fans (whoops)

Only the first one is really objective,  and the rest are completely subjective, and we’re not sure why it’s not all based on yellow and red cards, and then nobody can argue about it.

Remember that  every time a referee in the Premier League gives out a card, red or yellow,  it lessens the chances of an additional England team qualifying for the Europa League that season.

England did qualify last year, and the way the additional place is awarded in England is that it goes to the highest placed team in the league that hasn’t yet qualified for Europe – and Fulham got that place last year in 8th place and on 49 points.

It’s interesting Newcastle have 4 points more than that total this season, with 7 games still remaining.

England have qualified through the Fair Play rules 7 times since it started back in 1995 – that’s 17 times it has already been awarded.

But the bad news for Newcastle  is that the current standings have Norway at the top, with Finland and the Netherlands in second and third places, with England currently in 9th place and way off the pace.

Pity that referees in the Premier League cannot stop giving out any more cards this season….

Norway have qualified 10 times since 1995 by the Fair Play table, and notice it has nothing to do with how good the league is in that country.

So we’ll just have to hope that Liverpool beat Everton in the semi-final the weekend after next, and 6th place will get us a Europa League spot, and after all we’ve been wanting Liverpool to do well all season – haven’t we?

Say yes 😀

But it’s not all lost even  if Everton win the FA Cup – we’ll just have to finish in 5th place above Chelsea,  and 7 wins in a row should do that!

And if we don’t make it this season, just remember  it could have been a lot worse – Sunderland  could have won the FA Cup – so thank goodness for small mercies, because that would have been unbearable.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Europa League · European Competition · Newcastle News

112 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Pardew's fist pump // Apr 4, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    I called for us to now go into ‘overdrive’ a few weeks back, so glad we’ve timed it impeccably.

    Take each game as it comes, but I can’t help thinking, if we win these next 4 games, we’ll be at least 5th, within a whisker of 4th or, perhaps even in 4th. if that were to come about, I think the squad seeing itself in 4th spot, with those 3 difficult games to go, would be so energized by it that we could feasibly defy all the odds.

    What a carrot dangling right before us!

    TOON TOON!!!! 😀

  • 2 Dannyo // Apr 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM


    Cmon lads, despite their playstyle, Swansea has inferior players in most areas. They’re a one trick pony.
    Disrupt their play and make them lose possession and we’ll have em cornered, same as Stoke.
    This is what Pardew is good at. Finding gameplans and having his players execute them.
    We’ve seen it all season.

  • 3 LooneyToon41 // Apr 4, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Slightly off topic, but a very interesting article/analysis of NUFC’s finances/performance v other Premiership Clubs.
    Definitely worth a read if you are interested in this kind of stuff!

  • 4 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 4, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Oh well we’ll just finish 5th or higher then. No bother

  • 5 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Lets hope that Torres has not found his goal scoring form again, after netting in a goal during the Villa game. If he has, then 5th spot will be all the more harder to attain.

  • 6 bollance // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Familiarise yourself with the players we will be linked with for the foreseeable future

  • 7 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    On your previous article, imagine where we’d have been if AP had played HBA many more games, as we begged him to, instead of Raylor and Obertan ahead of him!!

  • 8 Pardew's fist pump // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    Another match extra scheduled for TV. Our revenue from this strand must have inflated this season, we’re the team to watch lately:

  • 9 NotAGhostToon // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    *SHAKES CYPRUS HEAD* good lord, can people not see the bigger picture

  • 10 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Torres will always pick up the odd goal. You don’t just lose all ability. Lets just hope he doesn’t find his feet suddenly perchinho

  • 11 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    So persisting with Ober did for you eh?

  • 12 NotAGhostToon // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    When HBA wasn’t fit yes! Remember we still picked up points, surely you’ve heard what almost everyone has said when that has been questioned. Pardew’s done the best with what he’s had, and the best with what he seemingly hasn’t (as in when we haven’t been seeing the players on the pitch he’s been improving them behind the scenes). Obertan served a purpose, he helped keep the ball in their half with his pace and we still gained points. I do agree, Ben Arfa is OBVIOUSLY the better player, but thats not all its about, now B.A has been shown his responsibilities he’s become an even bigger threat, Norwich he showed how effective he can be on the counter if he’s tracked back.

  • 13 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:11 PM

    @9 lol. Do people not see that Ben arfa has only just started increasing his work rate and looking for the pass more?
    Before that he looked like an above average ball hogger. The kind of guy you hate in your Sunday league team.
    Ben arfa is a better player now for having been forced to work his way into the team rather than be handed the shirt with a pat on the bum and a “go get em tiger”

  • 14 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    @12 somebody mentioned the other day. There’s more to being manager than just going “they’re the 11 with most ability, ill play them”. Those is the reason why the England team hasn’t worked well for ages. Its pointless trying to shoehorn players into a team and hoping they all play well together. They have to show they can work together before you just chuck them onto the pitch.

  • 15 obatoyou // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    We need Everton to lose to Liverpool AND Chelsea not to win the champions league, ie get beat by Barcelona, if these 2 happened it would be a DISASTER! We’d have to come 4th to get Europa League!
    Imagine if we worked so hard to come 4th and we only made Europa league, I would cry.

  • 16 Korzic // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    We aren’t completely stuffed if Everton beat Liverpool. We’d need to have Chelsea beat Spurs then beat Everton in the final and we’d still get the spot in 6th. Runner up only gets a Europa spot if the winner is already in the CL. If the winner has already booked a place in the Europa League, then RU gets squat.

  • 17 NotAGhostToon // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    Precisely, I’d bet that having Obertan in the team, then being able to point out what he did wrong in that time will also prove to be an astute move and when he finally comes back he will be an improved player!

  • 18 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    I guess we’ll never know what would’ve happened, this is a theoretical discussion… Though HBA insisted he was 100% ages ago. Perhaps it’s for the best as he would’ve turned more heads earlier and the summer mega-offers would be flying in already. In the modern game, game changers like Taraapt, Messi etc. are better on the pitch sometimes even if they’re having a bad one. Before he came on in a few previous games we were fortunate to get some wins. Not complaining mind you, don’t get me wrong.

  • 19 bollance // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    Man city game on tv is our 20th league game to be televised this season.

    In all competitions which club has been televised the most this season and how many times?

  • 20 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    @8 we’ve broken up “the big boys” and are planning on getting snuggled right in the middle of them.
    This makes us somewhat of an anomaly to the broadcasters and press so they’re interested in seeing what we can do.

  • 21 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    I believe 4th guarantees champions league qualifiers

  • 22 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    Cyprus, if Chelsea finish 5th and win the CL they qualify for the CL as winners and the team that finishes 4th only qualifies for the Europa League.

  • 23 NotAGhostToon // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    I see your point Cyprus and i’m genuinely not trying to belittle you but my point is, that i think Ben Arfa would have performed to a level if he’d played all the time where A: he would get complacent that he hadn’t had to try to get into the side and B: he’d have hit a peak which was probably lower than what he’s achieving now because he wouldn’t have learnt the roles we’re on about. I agree from now on though as long as he keeps up the pace, he should be dropped for no-one!

  • 24 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    on being televised we must still be behind ‘top 4’ and Liverpool and Chelsea

  • 25 bollance // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    Can’t believe llambias said the council challenging the name change if sjp was a publicity stunt.

    MA and llambias thought how could we get the two brands Newcastle united and sports direct in the papers every day pretty much from November up to Xmas?? Change the name of the stadium. A massive publicity stunt!

  • 26 Solaidback // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    The facts are, we’re never gonna get into Europe through the back door if England is 9th overall… it takes all clubs to do their bit & we’re not exactly near the top of the list in the PL anyways… I think we sit 19th just above Manc Citey for Fair Play points.. lol

    As for HBA, the guy is defo a star player but don’t forget he was out for over a year & needed time to come back slowly, if we’d played him more earlier, who’s to say he wouldn’t have broken down or re0injured himself, leaving us short now… the best thing is, he should still be pretty fresh for the remaining games, where as Cabaye looks well knackered having played nearly every game, same as Jonas… Ober can be used partly to replace these star players in some games but not others & the way HBA is playing these last 3 games should ensure he stays in the side, giving others like Ba a rest if he needs it….

    My only hope is, if we do start winning the remaining games, we need our defence to cut out the silly goals, as thats all Chelski have over us at present, the GD 🙁

  • 27 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    Also directed to Cyprus

    Seriously drop this whole “imagine where we could have been had we played HBA earlier…”

    Imagine where we would have been had we sold Colo, Jonas, and Jose in the Championship.

    Imagine where we would have been had Fat Freddy not sacked SBR

    Imagine where we would have been had Ashley not bailed the club out of the debt they were in

    Imagine where we would have been had Shearer done a “Carroll” and signed for Man United instead of us?

  • 28 bollance // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:26 PM


    Correct. Answer is Liverpool with 32 games on tv this season.

    Should hopefully line their pockets for when they want to sign another toon reject

  • 29 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    @Cyprus fair enough. Its a difference of opinion. I just think the treatment of Ben arfa has made him a better player as in he now tracks back. Also obertan now has to work hardere and improve his own game big time. Same with santon.
    I personally think that if you throw your “big players” in all the time then the competition for places disappears. They lose their edge

  • 30 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    Not sure about this response I found elsewhere. It implies that 4th place does go to CL, (I think) 🙂

    “Back in 2005 Liverpool won the Champions League but finished 5th.

    They, under special circumstances, were allowed to play in the Champions League the next season if they started from the very first qualifying rounds. As a result, they became the first team in the first qualifying round to get to the knockout stage. But UEFA confirmed that it would be the only time they would allow the winner in if they did not qualify.

    So if Chelsea finish 5th or lower, THEY WILL NOT PLAY in the Champions League next season even if they win the Champions League this season.@

  • 31 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    UEFA came out and said that the winner of the CL will always qualify for the competition the following season. It would be the team in 4th that would miss out

  • 32 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    There’s your proof

  • 33 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    @balance it was half about the name change and half a publicity stunt. That bird got a lot of north east tv time out of it.

  • 34 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    Thanks Ruddy

  • 35 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    No problem cyprus 😀

  • 36 bollance // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Would be funny if spurs finish 4th and don’t qualify for champions league because Chelsea took the last place because they won it. We are all supporting Chelsea in the champions league?

  • 37 bollance // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:36 PM

    Here is a question. Will barca win champions league if messi gets injured?

  • 38 MAGIC10 // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    HBA vs Liverpool (H) 11-12 HD 1080p by mendoDZ

  • 39 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    Good q. Bollance. I’ll go with, yes

  • 40 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    @37 yes. Just yes

  • 41 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    Though Bayern do have the best two wingers and a hell of a CF

  • 42 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    Right lads, we’re riding on a crest of a wave, the momentum is with us and if we approach this game right then we can stop Swansea from playing, and nick all three points.

    It is important to note that only 3 teams have beaten Swansea at the Liberty, Man United, Norwich and Everton. It is by no coincidence that the three men who overseen these victories are of the more astute variety of manager, Sir Alex is a tactical genius, Lambert has shown how clever he can be, and Moyes has done it on a shoestring for over a decade. Is AP of that standard yet? Friday will tell the tale 😉

  • 43 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    I was going for APOEL but they lost to Real a week or so ago 😉

  • 44 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    Barca are the best side in the world, followed closely, very closely, by Real Madrid. If Messi got injured then the gap between the two closes.

    Bayern are great going forward but the respective attacking abilities of Real Madrid and Barcelona would massacre Bayern’s atrocious back line.

  • 45 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    Swansea looked decidedly pedestrian against us at St. J., if that’s anything to go by

  • 46 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    To be fair though Cyprus Swansea were not going out to win that game, they had no intention of playing football that day. Rodgers was more interested in stopping us playing football and settling for the point.

    I was surprised by that tactic as they were more than capable of playing good football, but I assure you, that was by design when they came up to St James’

    We will see a very, very different Swansea side on Friday

  • 47 obatoyou // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    Hmm, so what if Chelsea win the champions league, and also beat Everton in the FA cup final ha!
    That would mean Everton go in to the Europa League, as Chelsea are champions league qualifiers.

    Hmm, if Chelsea finish 6th, Newcastle 5th, Tottenham 4th, and Tottenham win the FA cup beating Everton, we actually wouldn’t mind Chelsea winning the champions league

  • 48 obatoyou // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    Now THAT’S a scenario for ya

  • 49 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    We really don’t want Chelsea winning the Champion’s League, if they finished 5th we would want them to win the FA Cup, regardless of whether they were playing Liverpool or Everton, because that would mean a Europa League spot would go to the team in 6th.

    However, I do think we have enough about us to nab 5th, the away game to Chelsea is a huge one.

  • 50 obatoyou // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    Chelsea would take a champions league spot, in turn pushing Tottenham in 4th spot in to the Europa League, in turn pushing Everton out of the Europa league, and also Newcastle, which is not good actually, Tottenham will take the Europa spot we wanted 🙁

  • 51 Pardew's fist pump // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    The fact is, we are getting europe this season, because there’s an air of destiny around. 😛

    I love the smell of destiny in the afternoon!

  • 52 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:50 PM


    You think too much 😛

  • 53 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    …smells like VICTORY!!!


  • 54 obatoyou // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    no wait no, I was right the first time, we WOULD get europa in that case!!
    har! there is a scenario where we want Chelsea to win the champions league.
    See, the key is that, if it’s Tottenham who beat Everton in the FA cup final, and Tottenham are in Europa (after finishing 4th as Chelsea won the champions league and takes the 4th CL spot) then, Everton WON’T make Europa, because they are beaten by Tottenham, who are only Europa Qualifiers, not champions league qualifiers. 2nd in the FA cup only makes Europa, if it’s a CL qualifier that wins it.. heh

  • 55 Pardew's fist pump // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    😆 You got it, Ruddy!

  • 56 Rowan Milsted // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    All this Champion’s League/Europa stuff is giving me a headache! I’m not complaining though, if you guys weren’t sharing this knowledge then I wouldn’t know! Whatever happens this season, isn’t it amazing that we’re in a position where we can talk about Europe as a realistic possibility? Good times…

    On HBA, as I said in a previous article, I feel that Pardew has man-managed him brilliantly. I disagree that we should have played him more earlier – the fact that he was made to learn our way of playing the game, pass the ball more, track back and do the ‘dirty’ stuff, and earn his starting place in the team, is the main reason why he’s in such good form now. It’s superb man management by Pards in my opinion. He’s getting the best out of HBA and rewarding his improvement with a well-deserved and timely run of games.

    As for the fair play rules… don’t forget that we have Tiote! I don’t think that was ever a possibility. Though in fairness to him, he’s had less yellow cards than last season.

  • 57 obatoyou // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    @51 I’ll take that as a compliment heh

  • 58 Toon_Tom // Apr 4, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    we WILL qualify for Europe. Question is –



  • 59 bollance // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    Not even the managers realise how it all works. I am sure MacLeish hadn’t realised birmingham were in europe until the commentator pointed it out after he won league cup!

  • 60 Toon_Tom // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    I agree with the fist pumping Pardew –

    “The fact is, we are getting europe this season, because there’s an air of destiny around”


  • 61 Toon_Tom // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    bollance – thats right, i remember that interview 🙂

  • 62 obatoyou // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    I don’t remember that interview what happened

  • 63 obatoyou // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    in Australia, we don’t get shz all coverage, I wanna see this MOTD where Lawro sucked on a lemon about the liverpool match! fooey

  • 64 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:15 PM


    Don’t know if you can watch bbc i player but I’ll post the link anyway!

  • 65 Toon_Tom // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:15 PM

    obatoyou – after Birmingham had qualified, MaCleish was interviewed after the game (usual post-match stuff) and it was put to him that this sees him qualify for that last Europa spot – his eyes lit up and he said “not that i know of” and said that he would have to check that out!!!


  • 66 Toon_Tom // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:16 PM

    im sure someone will have the link, i cant remember word for word how it went but he was very surprised!!! 😉

  • 67 Toon_Tom // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    Ruddy – thanks for that!!! 🙂

  • 68 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    It’s the link for MOTD2 where Lawro was on, not the interview of MacLeish ha ha

  • 69 obatoyou // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    Thanks but can’t view it outside UK, hate lawro tho for some reason, schadenfreude, reading his predictions, I hope they’re all wrong. heh

  • 70 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    Well he took pleasure in our misery when we were knee deep in it so only fair we laugh at him when Liverpoo are in the crapper 😛

  • 71 Toon_Tom // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Team for the SWANS –




  • 72 check the toastie // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    ruddy – were you at the swansea game, you speak with such certainty about something that is totally untrue?

  • 73 alex84 // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    Hi guys what games are going to be shown on Tv and what channel? cheers

  • 74 Toon_Tom // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:39 PM

    alex – Toon Games, football games, any sports games???

  • 75 papiss_on_your_parade // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:43 PM

    Swansea is on sky sports 1 this friday, kick off is at 4. Then we weill be on tv against man city but i am not sure what channel.

    Otherwise watch them online 😀

  • 76 Rowan Milsted // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:48 PM


    Yup, I agree with that team for Friday – assuming Colo is fit. Guthrie, Perch and Shola to come off the bench if necessary., depending on how the game is going.

  • 77 Toon_Tom // Apr 4, 2012 at 1:53 PM

    Rowan – I would however be in 2 minds as to whether play Perch at either the LB or DM role due to his stella performances of late?!

    If Colo is not fit – Perchinho at CB !!!

  • 78 alex84 // Apr 4, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Toon Games

  • 79 toonLYF // Apr 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    in the summer, as lovens replacement, we should go in for the 20 year old Vincent AbouBAkar of Valenciennes FC. His playing style kind of blends our two Dembas, very positive forward, loves to run at his man, rarely has his back to goal and has scary acceleration. Only problem is, he plays for Cameroon so will be away for ACoN with the others 🙁 otherwise he’s perfect and IMO a better prospect than Rhodes.

    also i know it means very little to alot of you, but i’ve had him on my football manager save for us, for a year now, in that year…
    (sub appearances)
    Demba Ba – Played 44(3) – Scored – 32
    Papiss Cisse – Played 39(5) – Scored – 27
    Vincent Aboubakar- Played 21(14) -Scored – 9

    This, mixed with a fair bit of research into his career over the last two years (18-20) tells me he is, and will be VERY GOOD! where’s Graham Carr’s email address?

  • 80 Toon_Tom // Apr 4, 2012 at 2:24 PM

    LYF – football manager means nothing mate!

  • 81 papiss_on_your_parade // Apr 4, 2012 at 2:24 PM

    Does anyone have spare tickets for either bolton or man city?

    Really desperate to go!

  • 82 papiss_on_your_parade // Apr 4, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    Haha ToonLYF, i’m afraid you can’t judge a player by a game. Leading into Dennis Wise territory there 😀

  • 83 toonLYF // Apr 4, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    i’m sure i stated that…….

  • 84 toonLYF // Apr 4, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    i knew of him as a player prior to anything to do with football manager, and i’m not just talking Youtube…pointless explaining myself now though ey

  • 85 Klatoon // Apr 4, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    They paid for his flight, they paid for his flight


  • 86 Rowan Milsted // Apr 4, 2012 at 2:38 PM


    Yeah, Perch should definitely feature in the game, either as a starter or off the bench. I think you have to reward form with game time, and the last 3/4 times he’s played he’s done very well.

    It’s interesting that now he’s playing well – and will hopefully continue to improve – there are a variety of places he can play, like Raylor. We could start him at CB if Colo’s still unfit, or at LB as Raylor has just come back from injury and Santon hasn’t found his form (yet), or even bring him on at CDM to close the game late on, as Pardew likes to do. He’ll be known as Mr. Versatility if he carries on at this rate!

  • 87 Klatoon // Apr 4, 2012 at 2:41 PM

  • 88 Wor Shearer // Apr 4, 2012 at 3:18 PM


    I don’t get it?

  • 89 Hencha Boii // Apr 4, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    Why is everybody including Colo in there ideal line up for Swansea game, didn’t AP come out over the weekend and say he’d 100% miss Swans and more than likely Bolton! Plus Colo wouldn’t even be risked after Perch and Willo’s solid performance against Liverpool.

  • 90 ilovetoon8788 // Apr 4, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    It’s amazing we can now talk of Europe. It’s freaking exciting!!!!!

  • 91 Dannyo // Apr 4, 2012 at 4:02 PM

    So Tav is recalled and is set to go straight into the squad, pls don’t tell me Perch or Willo are injured… 🙁

  • 92 -Tendo- // Apr 4, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    HAHA Klatton, that’s a good one

  • 93 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 4:24 PM

    Toastie Swansea played a negative game of football against us, they didn’t attack us at all mate. They played to stifle us and they succeeded. If you disagree I would like to hear your thoughts about how you saw how that game went.

  • 94 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 4:33 PM

    So lads, Swansea are a good, well organised side, with an astute manager and some very tidy passers of the ball in the middle with the likes of Allen, Britton and Sigurdsson on form. 2 deadly wingers in Sinclair and Dyer and a Geordie boy up top who is good for a goal or two. Caulker at the back is a very good up and coming youngster and Ashley Williams is solid, if unspectacular. Angel Rangel and Neil Taylor are decent with the ball at their feet and Michel Vorm has been touted as one of the best keepers in the league this season.

    My question is can we do it? 😉

  • 95 davybtoon // Apr 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    dannyo tavernier coming back simply a case of pardew giving him a chance from now till the end of the season n get used to the premier league as pardew as made no secret of the fact that tavernier is gonna b in his squad next year n imo has the chance to b first choice ryt back

  • 96 Munster Mag // Apr 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

    Ghosd, we can do it, but I dont think we will, unless we play really well. I predict 2-2.

  • 97 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 4, 2012 at 5:06 PM

    We have been playing very well as of late. A 4-3-3 might play straight into the hands of Swansea though but I think if we do, and Tiote plays out of his skin then we can do it.

  • 98 Toon Tang // Apr 4, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    sounds like my type of roll model hahaha

  • 99 davis_toons // Apr 4, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    @3 LooneyToon41 // Apr 4, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Thanks for the link. A well written story on our club.

    Those who still unsure abt the club condition shld read that articial. It have already cover most of it. Hiring and firing of managers must incl law suit cost as well.

    35million? It really up to MA to comeup with another sum of cash to up the team further. Of course whatever amount spend will be earn back or at lease covered mostly given time with the current state the club is running.

  • 100 cyprus // Apr 4, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    Going with 1-3. Our three up front will be too much. Ba back on the scoreline with first goal, after we fall behind!

  • 101 mickg108 // Apr 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    For Toon matches..

  • 102 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 4, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    Perch has picked up a knock and is struggling for Swansea game.

    That’s why Tav is back.

  • 103 Tsunki // Apr 4, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Swans are a side we could trip up on, not because they are fantastic but tactically they make up for their collective limitations by staying behind, passing until they spot an opening forming in the middle and waiting for their break. I think Pards needs to instill patience and a rigid back line especially for this one, but I see no reason why the same 4-3-3 can’t put them to the sword like scousepool, it’s looking almost like the finished article up front and our midfield is well drilled, although I hope jonas goes back up and raylor or santon at LB, still don’t think Gosling is quite ready yet, hence my reservation if Pards starts as he finished last time. Our back line is not going to succumb in the same way so no fear of a nasty aerial hammering this time out, as long as they stay wary. I will stick my neck out for a 3-0 or 3-1 on this. To us of course.

    Off topic, haven’t been on much of late, when was the last time anyone saw a post from the pre-puberty mackem triad? Has OV ousted the soapless schoolboy?

  • 104 Tsunki // Apr 4, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    Obatoyou – if you are still on, or for anyone who is outside uk but want to access uk-resident only links, I used to watch episodes or trailers of 24( er I am sure it was that or Heroes!) on FOX usa in the uk by using one of those Proxy server programs – Hide IP I think was one – it basically allows you to use a server based in a different country from yours so if you choose a UK proxy server you can watch stuff like bbc online. I think proxy servers are the haunt of those looking for ‘other’ material so I always felt a bit shabby using it though ha ha! 🙂

  • 105 Tsunki // Apr 4, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Hatem – NOOOOOooooo! Wasn’t that nasty head butt was it? 😉

  • 106 geordiejamie89 // Apr 4, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    I read the webpage that somebody linked onto one of these blogs, and although it took about half an hour to read, it was very good, so whoever that was thank you.
    Looking at it, it looks like Newcastle have everything in their favour. If Newcastle were positioned in the table based on wages, we’d be in the bottom half. If we were placed in the table based on players wages, we’d be in the bottom half.
    With all that said, Newcastle recorded a loss after tax of just under 4 million in the last financial year. So When the next report comes out, what should we expect?
    Well we won’t have the Andy Caroll sale in our favour anymore, but wages have been improved, despite some of our top players getting new deals.
    We will earn about an extra 5 million from finishing sixth on position bonus.
    Our attendances at the stadium has improved slightly yet again, we’ve had plenty sell-outs. (I can verify that, as I live down south and have to get tickets last minute, and it’s been a real struggle this season, which i don’t really mind).
    We have the prospect of Europa League, although I’m not sure when we’ll benefit from that.
    We’ve settled the interest on the clubs external debts, and cut costs and wages, while improving on the pitch.
    On top of that, we’ve been on tv plenty, which earns extra depending on how many games are televised.
    That all looks very promising, and should look good when the next financial report comes out. The interesting one again will be the one after. The one after we’ve been in the Europa League (potentially), and after the buys and sales at the end of this season.
    And with most of our best players tied down, it’s going to take silly money again to prize them from the club.
    If we get Demba Ba to sign a new contract, it might be worth selling him, to replicate the progress we managed to achieve from the Andy Caroll sale. So my ideal finish to this season, going into next:
    Demba sign a new contract, and then sold for 22 million.
    Guthrie, Gosling, Alan Smith, Lovenkrands, Leon Best, and a couple others all leave.
    That leaves us with plenty gap for wages, and plenty money for players:
    Berbatov 2 year deal.
    Alvaro Morata from Real Madrid
    Corgnet from French league
    Alfaimanio from French league
    2nd keeper
    amongst others. And that’s just from the money generated from the Demba ba sale if it’s 22 million. Add to that the other players leaving and sales etc, we’d be a great team with another striker to thank for it.

  • 107 geordiejamie89 // Apr 4, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    I’ve just realised how much I’d just been typing away, my bad.

  • 108 Faddj // Apr 4, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    if anyone gets a minute, please have a look at my blog, I was pitch side at the match on Sunday taking photos as part of the Wembley to Soweto project, cheers.

  • 109 lualua17 // Apr 5, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    What do you mean Ed behaviour of the fans (whoops) I don’t see what we have done that has been so terrible.

  • 110 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Apr 5, 2012 at 5:41 AM


    Wow! Brilliant photo,s! My favourite is of Ben Arfa with the ball at his feet!

    Congrats on some damn good work mate!

  • 111 LooneyToon41 // Apr 5, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    @106 geordiejamie89. You’re welcome mate. The link is @3 on this page. REALLY interesting read from an independent analysist, and in reality sets out how all the EPL teams are run, and therefore how they should be run. I’d recommend it to all NUFC supporters! 😉

  • 112 Crawfordladd17 // Apr 6, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    how not like bottom of the Fair Play league Tiote is our only player that gets bookings all the time

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