No Fair-Play Europa League Place For Newcastle


The English Premier League gets four teams that qualify for the European Champions League and three teams that qualify for the Europa League.

Europa League Badge

The Champions league positions are the top four places in the league, but the Europa places are not all determined by league positions, although they are in all other countries expect England and France.

The Carling Cup winner and the FA Cup winner get entry to the Europa League from England and 5th place in the Premier League also gets a berth.

But three more overall berths are awarded each year by UEFA to those countries that finish in the top three places of the UEFA Fair Play table.

Teams are judged on the following criteria and are awarded points in the following categories:

  • Yellow and red cards
  • Positive play – attacking tactics, acceleration of the game, efforts to gain time, and continued pursuit of goals
  • Respect to the opponent – like returning the ball to the opponent at a throw-in, helping an injured opponent (whoops)
  • Respect to the referee (whoops)
  • Behavior of the team officials (whoops)
  • Behavior of the fans (whoops)

Only the first one is really objective,  and the rest are completely subjective, and we’re not sure why it’s not all based on yellow and red cards, and then nobody can argue about it.

Remember that  every time a referee in the Premier League gives out a card, red or yellow,  it lessens the chances of an additional England team qualifying for the Europa League that season.

England did qualify last year, and the way the additional place is awarded in England is that it goes to the highest placed team in the league that hasn’t yet qualified for Europe – and Fulham got that place last year in 8th place and on 49 points.

It’s interesting Newcastle have 4 points more than that total this season, with 7 games still remaining.

England have qualified through the Fair Play rules 7 times since it started back in 1995 – that’s 17 times it has already been awarded.

But the bad news for Newcastle  is that the current standings have Norway at the top, with Finland and the Netherlands in second and third places, with England currently in 9th place and way off the pace.

Pity that referees in the Premier League cannot stop giving out any more cards this season….

Norway have qualified 10 times since 1995 by the Fair Play table, and notice it has nothing to do with how good the league is in that country.

So we’ll just have to hope that Liverpool beat Everton in the semi-final the weekend after next, and 6th place will get us a Europa League spot, and after all we’ve been wanting Liverpool to do well all season – haven’t we?

Say yes 😀

But it’s not all lost even  if Everton win the FA Cup – we’ll just have to finish in 5th place above Chelsea,  and 7 wins in a row should do that!

And if we don’t make it this season, just remember  it could have been a lot worse – Sunderland  could have won the FA Cup – so thank goodness for small mercies, because that would have been unbearable.

Comments welcome.



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112 comments so far

  • Pardew's fist pump

    Apr 4, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #1

    I called for us to now go into ‘overdrive’ a few weeks back, so glad we’ve timed it impeccably.

    Take each game as it comes, but I can’t help thinking, if we win these next 4 games, we’ll be at least 5th, within a whisker of 4th or, perhaps even in 4th. if that were to come about, I think the squad seeing itself in 4th spot, with those 3 difficult games to go, would be so energized by it that we could feasibly defy all the odds.

    What a carrot dangling right before us!

    TOON TOON!!!! 😀

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  • Dannyo

    Apr 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #2

    Repost;

    Cmon lads, despite their playstyle, Swansea has inferior players in most areas. They’re a one trick pony.
    Disrupt their play and make them lose possession and we’ll have em cornered, same as Stoke.
    This is what Pardew is good at. Finding gameplans and having his players execute them.
    We’ve seen it all season.

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  • LooneyToon41

    Apr 4, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #3

    Slightly off topic, but a very interesting article/analysis of NUFC’s finances/performance v other Premiership Clubs.
    Definitely worth a read if you are interested in this kind of stuff!
    http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/newcastle-united-life-in-northern-town.html

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  • HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #4

    Oh well we’ll just finish 5th or higher then. No bother

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  • ~Perchinho the Pheonix~

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #5

    Lets hope that Torres has not found his goal scoring form again, after netting in a goal during the Villa game. If he has, then 5th spot will be all the more harder to attain.

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  • bollance

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #6

    Familiarise yourself with the players we will be linked with for the foreseeable future

    http://frenchfootballweekly.com/download/Le50.pdf

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  • cyprus

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #7

    Ed,
    On your previous article, imagine where we’d have been if AP had played HBA many more games, as we begged him to, instead of Raylor and Obertan ahead of him!!

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  • Pardew's fist pump

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #8

    Another match extra scheduled for TV. Our revenue from this strand must have inflated this season, we’re the team to watch lately:

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20120404/man-city-match-to-be-televised_2281670_2721605

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  • NotAGhostToon

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #9

    *SHAKES CYPRUS HEAD* good lord, can people not see the bigger picture

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  • HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #10

    Torres will always pick up the odd goal. You don’t just lose all ability. Lets just hope he doesn’t find his feet suddenly perchinho

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  • cyprus

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #11

    NotAGhost,
    So persisting with Ober did for you eh?

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  • NotAGhostToon

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #12

    When HBA wasn’t fit yes! Remember we still picked up points, surely you’ve heard what almost everyone has said when that has been questioned. Pardew’s done the best with what he’s had, and the best with what he seemingly hasn’t (as in when we haven’t been seeing the players on the pitch he’s been improving them behind the scenes). Obertan served a purpose, he helped keep the ball in their half with his pace and we still gained points. I do agree, Ben Arfa is OBVIOUSLY the better player, but thats not all its about, now B.A has been shown his responsibilities he’s become an even bigger threat, Norwich he showed how effective he can be on the counter if he’s tracked back.

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  • HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #13

    @9 lol. Do people not see that Ben arfa has only just started increasing his work rate and looking for the pass more?
    Before that he looked like an above average ball hogger. The kind of guy you hate in your Sunday league team.
    Ben arfa is a better player now for having been forced to work his way into the team rather than be handed the shirt with a pat on the bum and a “go get em tiger”

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  • HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #14

    @12 somebody mentioned the other day. There’s more to being manager than just going “they’re the 11 with most ability, ill play them”. Those is the reason why the England team hasn’t worked well for ages. Its pointless trying to shoehorn players into a team and hoping they all play well together. They have to show they can work together before you just chuck them onto the pitch.

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  • obatoyou

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #15

    We need Everton to lose to Liverpool AND Chelsea not to win the champions league, ie get beat by Barcelona, if these 2 happened it would be a DISASTER! We’d have to come 4th to get Europa League!
    Imagine if we worked so hard to come 4th and we only made Europa league, I would cry.

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  • Korzic

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #16

    We aren’t completely stuffed if Everton beat Liverpool. We’d need to have Chelsea beat Spurs then beat Everton in the final and we’d still get the spot in 6th. Runner up only gets a Europa spot if the winner is already in the CL. If the winner has already booked a place in the Europa League, then RU gets squat.

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  • NotAGhostToon

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #17

    Precisely, I’d bet that having Obertan in the team, then being able to point out what he did wrong in that time will also prove to be an astute move and when he finally comes back he will be an improved player!

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  • cyprus

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #18

    I guess we’ll never know what would’ve happened, this is a theoretical discussion… Though HBA insisted he was 100% ages ago. Perhaps it’s for the best as he would’ve turned more heads earlier and the summer mega-offers would be flying in already. In the modern game, game changers like Taraapt, Messi etc. are better on the pitch sometimes even if they’re having a bad one. Before he came on in a few previous games we were fortunate to get some wins. Not complaining mind you, don’t get me wrong.

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  • bollance

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #19

    Man city game on tv is our 20th league game to be televised this season.

    In all competitions which club has been televised the most this season and how many times?

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  • HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #20

    @8 we’ve broken up “the big boys” and are planning on getting snuggled right in the middle of them.
    This makes us somewhat of an anomaly to the broadcasters and press so they’re interested in seeing what we can do.

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  • cyprus

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #21

    Obatou,
    I believe 4th guarantees champions league qualifiers

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  • GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #22

    Cyprus, if Chelsea finish 5th and win the CL they qualify for the CL as winners and the team that finishes 4th only qualifies for the Europa League.

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  • NotAGhostToon

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #23

    I see your point Cyprus and i’m genuinely not trying to belittle you but my point is, that i think Ben Arfa would have performed to a level if he’d played all the time where A: he would get complacent that he hadn’t had to try to get into the side and B: he’d have hit a peak which was probably lower than what he’s achieving now because he wouldn’t have learnt the roles we’re on about. I agree from now on though as long as he keeps up the pace, he should be dropped for no-one!

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  • cyprus

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #24

    Bollance,
    on being televised we must still be behind ‘top 4’ and Liverpool and Chelsea

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  • bollance

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #25

    Can’t believe llambias said the council challenging the name change if sjp was a publicity stunt.

    MA and llambias thought how could we get the two brands Newcastle united and sports direct in the papers every day pretty much from November up to Xmas?? Change the name of the stadium. A massive publicity stunt!

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  • Solaidback

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #26

    The facts are, we’re never gonna get into Europe through the back door if England is 9th overall… it takes all clubs to do their bit & we’re not exactly near the top of the list in the PL anyways… I think we sit 19th just above Manc Citey for Fair Play points.. lol

    As for HBA, the guy is defo a star player but don’t forget he was out for over a year & needed time to come back slowly, if we’d played him more earlier, who’s to say he wouldn’t have broken down or re0injured himself, leaving us short now… the best thing is, he should still be pretty fresh for the remaining games, where as Cabaye looks well knackered having played nearly every game, same as Jonas… Ober can be used partly to replace these star players in some games but not others & the way HBA is playing these last 3 games should ensure he stays in the side, giving others like Ba a rest if he needs it….

    My only hope is, if we do start winning the remaining games, we need our defence to cut out the silly goals, as thats all Chelski have over us at present, the GD 🙁

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  • GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #27

    Also directed to Cyprus

    Seriously drop this whole “imagine where we could have been had we played HBA earlier…”

    Imagine where we would have been had we sold Colo, Jonas, and Jose in the Championship.

    Imagine where we would have been had Fat Freddy not sacked SBR

    Imagine where we would have been had Ashley not bailed the club out of the debt they were in

    Imagine where we would have been had Shearer done a “Carroll” and signed for Man United instead of us?

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  • bollance

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #28

    Cyprus

    Correct. Answer is Liverpool with 32 games on tv this season.

    Should hopefully line their pockets for when they want to sign another toon reject

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  • HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #29

    @Cyprus fair enough. Its a difference of opinion. I just think the treatment of Ben arfa has made him a better player as in he now tracks back. Also obertan now has to work hardere and improve his own game big time. Same with santon.
    I personally think that if you throw your “big players” in all the time then the competition for places disappears. They lose their edge

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  • cyprus

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #30

    Not sure about this response I found elsewhere. It implies that 4th place does go to CL, (I think) 🙂

    “Back in 2005 Liverpool won the Champions League but finished 5th.

    They, under special circumstances, were allowed to play in the Champions League the next season if they started from the very first qualifying rounds. As a result, they became the first team in the first qualifying round to get to the knockout stage. But UEFA confirmed that it would be the only time they would allow the winner in if they did not qualify.

    So if Chelsea finish 5th or lower, THEY WILL NOT PLAY in the Champions League next season even if they win the Champions League this season.@

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  • GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #31

    UEFA came out and said that the winner of the CL will always qualify for the competition the following season. It would be the team in 4th that would miss out

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  • HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #33

    @balance it was half about the name change and half a publicity stunt. That bird got a lot of north east tv time out of it.

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  • cyprus

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #34

    Thanks Ruddy

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  • GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #35

    No problem cyprus 😀

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  • bollance

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #36

    Would be funny if spurs finish 4th and don’t qualify for champions league because Chelsea took the last place because they won it. We are all supporting Chelsea in the champions league?

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  • bollance

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #37

    Here is a question. Will barca win champions league if messi gets injured?

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  • MAGIC10

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #38

    HBA vs Liverpool (H) 11-12 HD 1080p by mendoDZ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOCeRNoKdnA

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  • cyprus

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #39

    Good q. Bollance. I’ll go with, yes

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  • HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #40

    @37 yes. Just yes

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