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Pardew Conflicted About European Qualification – Go For It!

10:55 am, Sunday, April 8th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 355 Comments

Alan Pardew thinks that if Newcastle qualify for Europe, it could have some negative connotations as well as the obvious positive ones.

Alan Pardew – conflicted about European qualification

Newcastle are in a reasonable position to qualify for Europe for the first time since 2006, when Glenn Roeder  guided Newcastle to a European place after taking over in early February of that year from sacked Graeme Souness.

The extra games and the extra travel would test the so far small Newcastle squad, but if Newcastle do qualify Alan has said today they will need to sing five top players and the chances of keeping Danny Guthrie and Danny Simpson on Tyneside, will increase.

Newcastle don’t have the squad at the moment to play in Europe and Stoke City this season, as one example, have played 50 games, with their participation in Europe, and that comapres to Newcastle having played only 38 games so far this season.

This is what Alan Pardew told the Sunday Sun today:

“There will be one side of me quite pleased if we miss out because it means we can attack the season next year not having the extra pressure of that European league.” 

“Having said that I would still, on the other part of me, welcome that because it will take the club forward. It would bond some of the players to the club and would be an achievement of sorts.”

“We can perhaps add to the squad with the extra finance we get from it.”

When you have success there are always the pressures you have to deal with – but that’s life.

So we’d love to see the lads qualify for Europe and even finish 4th top and get into the Champions League for the first time since we qualified in 3rd place back in 2003 under the great Bobby Robson.

Newcastle would then need to plan and bring in the sufficient number of players with the required skills, to be ready for next seaosn’s campaign.

We’d rather be doing that, than fighting our way out of the Championship!

Howay The Lads!!

Tags: Europa League · European Champions League · European Competition · Newcastle News

355 responses so far ↓

  • 1 pardew no 1 // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    good words but we need to get rid of crap smith xisco etc we need young lads but i dont want a team with no english it is the english preimer league not ligue 1 i no it might sound racist but i want home grown talen like myself 😉

  • 2 sps80 // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Happy Easter from north-east Poland! 🙂
    I hope we beat Bolton tomorrow.

  • 3 Wor Shearer // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    @pardew no 1

    No that doesn’t sound racist but it does sound shortsighted.

  • 4 Wor Shearer // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Pards is just being coy. He wants the squad believing they are underdogs. It will give them an extra hunger to win and more importantly keep some media pressure away.

  • 5 t00ntime // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    people guessing formations shud stop it lol. If theres anything I’ve learned over the last season is, pardew will put a team out which looks (to start with) pretty bad. I and others too start complaining saying he made a sh1t decision or the subs are bad… and then 90mins later i’m happily eating my own words. therefore I’m never complaining about pardews formation again 😛

    if simmo does leave I will understand, over the last season (which he has done quite good imo) the critic’s have gone from feedback to verbal abuse about killing him and/or his kid

    well I don’t know about u but thats a time u might think about leaving. also its not good for our club to be involved with fans like that. of course everybody has a moment when they want to kill some one, like ba when he missed the pen vs sunderland. But that passes over u dont start threatening them on twitter (didnt even dare to in real life -_-)

    however if he does leave it would be intresting, pardew and santon have both said he is a LB, so do we buy pieters (who can play LB and RB) or do we buy a RB

  • 6 t00ntime // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    @wor shearer its not really shortsighted 😛 its true most foreign players are cheaper for the same quality but u also do need some english in the squad (both taylors both ameobi’s etc) preferably english people who learned french at school 😉

  • 7 NUFC_LEAZES END // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    @pardew no 1

    couldnt agree with you more mate, graham carr needs to do some hard graft in this country for abit, am sure he will be able to find some worthy talent. maybe even scouting around the north east for another shearer/milburn :p

  • 8 JackButler // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    The only issue with buying English players is that they cost three time the amount that they are actually worth!

  • 9 Patchty1 // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    This often happens, and it makes no sence at all, you play well all season long and qualify for Europe and the manager then complains about too many games, its as if they view the reward as being a punishment, it really is a stupid attitude to take, embrace and enjoy the extra games, they are a bonus and should be treat as such

  • 10 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Obviously the club aren’t putting the cart before the horse setting out their sweeping plan for euro domination. Transfer dealings will be along the lines we have seen, where the only time we absolutely know in advance who is arriving will be those whose agaents or selling club have leaked it. You can put your house on several deals already closed, in and out, and behind the dressing room door is a manager drilling into a squad how they must pull together to be succesful together, individuals need not apply. It sounds rom£antic when you just say it, but it is deadly serious and focused, it is the SD business model, applied to a football club where the traditional ways have badly failed Ashley and he has put his foot down and asserted his order. It is not fan friendly in PR terms, but it is designed for success like a shark is designed to hunt. I no longer worry that MA tuns up with jar in hand and B&W shirt on matchdays, as long as the team gets where it is designed to go, and right now it has all the signs. Speculate if you like, but we will get who we will get.

  • 11 Patchty1 // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    For those who want us to buy English, do you really want us to do a Liverpool !
    On that note I suggest we keep it foreign, our methods have proved to be 13 points better and approximately £100m cheaper, that says it all really

  • 12 tdt // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    I wonder who’ll play in midfield tomorrow if Tiote, Cabaye and Guthrie are all injured…

    Ig that is the case, I’d hope for this team:


    That leaves R.Taylor, Ferguson and Shola to come on as subs later in the second half once the main men tire.

    That’s all on the assumption that Tiote, Cabaye, Guthrie, collo, obertan, vuckic, marvoeux and s.taylor aren’t fit.

  • 13 Grafton83 // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    Bobby Robson always used to say that Europe would be another fantastic adventure. Thats the way I like to think about it. Any kind of European football will enhance our clubs reputation on the continent and that can only be a good thing.

  • 14 Pardew's fist pump // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Watch and smile doing so, knowing they’re both our’s! 😀

    Hope Ba finds his mean streak and starts playing with aggression again.

  • 15 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    I’d say colo, tiote n Guthrie will b out tomorrow so tdt that’s the exact team I’d go for abeid has got to have his chance, but I think cabaye will b ok so play him instead of gosling

  • 16 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    The problem is English players are hopelessly overvalued and have massive wage demands considering their skill base and experience. Also seem to have few ego problems – Nile Ranger for one. Even players heading south from the SPL are overpriced.
    I would recommend we team up with a few dynamic Scottish clubs for scouting purposes – Livingstone, Falkirk, St Johnstone as these clubs are coaching young players in skills not hoofball.

  • 17 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:53 AM

    If Tiote/cabaye and collo are out i would play 442 as bolton play that anyway,


    Let Demba1 get back on the goal trail, nice and strong in the middle with loads of attacking threat down the flanks, Fergy and Santon down the left at home will supply the ammo for our lethal front 2. loads of goals?

  • 18 Wor Shearer // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    I agree that if there is another Shearer/Milburn in the North East we need to be the club to find them. But I wouldn’t do it if it meant excluding searches all over the world.

  • 19 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    The SPL today is a very poor cousin of the English PL, a mix of Championship and league 1 sides – why? Because about 20 years ago they bolstered their Euro ambitions with cheap foreign ready-made imports and had virtually no local academy system to speak of. Result? The scottish national team. Young english talent is a spoiled generation of over-hyped and over priced commodities who are being traded for money value when they have hardly kicked a ball, their true worth after millions spent and years of investment being their eventual shipping out to obscure lower-league or foreign clubs. MA and his staff have pinpointed this as a priority hence the academy clearout. Expect cheap young english talent who will be expected to develop quickly on merit alongside their foreign contemporaries. If English talent dies out then tough imo, they should only have themselves and their greedy advisors to blame. It’s a global game so gotta keep up.

  • 20 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    We’ve only just set upon a winning 4-3-3 I’d hate to see that oot the window. Ba will hit a few very soon anyway. Hopefully we’ll not see all of the mid 3 out for Bolton.

  • 21 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    There’s no way we will go back 442 after 433 has been so good abeid gosling n Jonas is a great 3 man midfield n will do a job

  • 22 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    So far Gosling has not impressed, hasnt done one thing in a game were ive thought yep that lad has got something, Abeid is the future of the club and it would be gud if he come in 2moro, very unlikely though Pardiola wud defo play Raylor instead, just think Raylor lacks energy/pace to play midfield, was a major major gripe a month ago that he was in front of Hatem Ben Messi.

  • 23 JackButler // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    The best way for us to get young English players coming through is to take them on as kids and coach them through the ranks, its a long term plan but will eventually pay off and in the mean time Graham Carr can continue to work his magic 🙂

  • 24 Wor Shearer // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    I think Ashely’s expanding our youth system in the summer so it should help to attract the best young talent including those here in the North East.

    Our scouts are doing just fine imo.

  • 25 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Why sign English players when u can jus sign players like abeid n Vukic n by the time there 21 there classed as home grown talent anyway aslong as there at the club from 18

  • 26 JackButler // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    We’ve found winning ways with 4-3-3 so lets not change it now just cause we have a few injuries. We have the players continue that formation

  • 27 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Gosling is clearly ahead of Abeid and has done quite well when he’s came on the last two games

  • 28 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM


    The SFA suits up here know all that and there are a number of clubs – including the ones I mentioned all going for skills based youth development. Exactly the way we’re going as a club. There are some loud voices like John Collins for one who want to do it that way. If we can bring on talent developed only 100m north of the Toon then go for it – almost the ‘farm team’ approach.
    The Old Firm surely did screw up the national side by their imports.

  • 29 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:03 PM


    My main criticism of KK was what he did to our player development.

  • 30 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Davy – in a lot of games we have pretty much been playing 451, not 433, Ben Arfa has gave simpson great cover, much more than Mata wud be asked to do for chelsea and as for cisse against swansea he was generally playing full back most the game,

    442 is still an option in some games and will still work if we play decent wide men at home, previuosly we were playing Jonas(lost pace) and Raylor(never had any), now with fergy and Benny supplying bullets for the front two i am sure it wud work, this is all dependent on who is fit of course, if cabaye is out wud revert to 442 as dont rate gosling to play the same role, maybe you could go with


    Just dont rate Gosling currently, hope he proves me wrong though once he gets sharper. However during carling cup/reserve games Abeid always outshone him.
    Think he is on last chance saloon, maybe moved out in summer if he doesnt make his mark if pardew gives him a chance.

  • 31 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    JackButler – I believe that is exactly the plan. The previous accepted setup has bred the rangers and carrols, whose egos have been damagingly inflated by their hype. They are damaged peronalities now who expect success and wads of cash to be brought to them for breakfast. They would have been much better players and humans without the influence of the grasping money men who infest the modern game. People may not like Ash & Co but he won’t suffer those characters, and on the flipside will exploit their stupid greed as in the Carroll saga.

  • 32 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    People saying Abeid is the future of our club, howay get a grip of yourselves he hasnt even played started something like 2 games nd been okay not spectacular at reserve level

  • 33 pardew no 1 // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    we need more heskeys in the world

  • 34 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Gosling was the best player in pre season n he hasn’t had a chance to really show what he can do, n he can easily take on cabayes advanced role of the 3 in midfield with abeid n Jonas doing the holding

  • 35 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    Gt89 ppl like tav, abeid n Vukic are the future of the club is that simple really we all know when players are sold these lads will b promoted

  • 36 Pardew's fist pump // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    I’d go with this:


    Hope Ba rediscovers his aggression, that’s all that’s missing to give him that edge again, in my opinion.

  • 37 JackButler // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:10 PM


    Agree mate, don’t like to be critical of KK but the whole club was short sighted at that point in time especially when you think that Man U were winning everything with their kids

  • 38 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Davy – hope your right but currently cant see it, dont know what the lad brings to the team, and GT89 feel as though i have an eye for a player and Abeid is technically great, has a bit of pace and is physical, me thinks he will be here for a few years, on in that way he is the future of the club, agreed?

  • 39 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Also am so excited for Marveaux to be back playing regular, if Ba does leave(which will only be for the money) our forward line will be unreal
    So quick on the counter attack Cisse and unreal technique from all 3…

    My prediction is Cisse will be premier leagues top scorer next season with or without Ba

  • 40 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    Here’s a question for you lot will cisse score more than ba this season? B tough but reckon he could

  • 41 Wor Shearer // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    I think Pards needs to bring in more than 4 or 5 in the summer, especially if we qualify for Europe.

    We’ll have a few going out due to contracts/ability etc., so we’ll need to replace them BUT I also think we need cover in a number areas given that we have a fair few number of player that pick up knocks VERY easily and usually ruins their season.

    e.g. I don’t think we should ignore a CM even if we keep our best players.

    Injury prone:




    Players out in the summer:


  • 42 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    Check – a do see what you mean mate a do really lime the look of him myself but Gosling is a really good young player whos had career threatening injury so young he just needs games and time a would loan him and Abeid out to top championship or decent prem teams next season

  • 43 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    Hba-cisse-marveux excites me like

  • 44 JackButler // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    davy – The way that Cisse is playing I wouldn’t be surprised if he scores more than everyone in the league next season

  • 45 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    Fist Pump hope cabaye is fit, and that would be my team also, if not i dont see anyone who can do the same job, so mix the team up a bit. maybe Benny thru the middle and play gosling down the right, at least that gives the lad a chance to impress, or else i suppose we wud never know. or my 442 ‘experiment’ as described earlier.

  • 46 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    MFH @27 – the changes in the grass roots of scottish top league football are very real and long overdue – the Old Firm experiment has very publicly been shown to be a juvenile shambles of catch-up to the likes of Chelsea, Man U Arsenal etc. Hopefully soon we will get back to the days when NUFC had some very fine players who found the Toon to be their heart-home. I remember a time when, for example, a very good Man U side was populated with some absolutely class scottish players who were the hard – working and dedicated spine of the team. That’s what you get up in these northern parts, and that ethic is why the geordies love that type of player so much. I hope those days return soon, rather home -grown world-class than foreign any day, but at the moment it just hasn’t happened yet, sadly 🙁

    @28 – people gloss over that but it was a glaring failure to glamourise the first team on a budget at the expense of the long-term health of the cub.

  • 47 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    How is Gosling classed as injury prone :s he had a really bad injury which requires grafts(24cm of muscle) to be taken from your hamstring which makes them extremely weak obly natural to suffer repucutions in recovery

  • 48 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    *club ha ha.

  • 49 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Gt89 get Europe next season there’s no way id b loaning players like abeid n gosling out we need a good squad rotating system to manage the 2 compitions and I fully expect a few more exciting midfielders to come in

  • 50 Wor Shearer // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:17 PM


    If you don’t want to call him ‘injury prone’ how about ‘fragile’?

  • 51 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    davy- hopefully demba1 will notch a few 2moro will give everyone a boost for the run in, never been the same since he missed the mackem penalty, its not just his goalscoring its his general play, he has been a shadow of the player who was immense against Man Utd, very sloppy in some of his play.

  • 52 Faddj // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:20 PM

  • 53 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    Cisse will have to score 7 in his next 6 games to draw level with Ba and hope Ba doesnt score any atall, too much of a long shot unless he bags a hat-trick on monday and then a coue at home to Stoke then hes got a chance, mental if he does mind end up with 2 strikers on 16+ goals each

  • 54 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    Anyone know much about this Jacob butterfield looking like it cud b happening?

  • 55 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    Davybtoon – if keep them here to rotate and not actually use them how are they going to improve? Arsenal loaned out Wilshere/Ramsey nd others they’re now first choice when fit.. Man utd loaned out Cleverly and Welbeck both of whom play regular and then Chelsea with Sturridge.. They need to play week in week out to get better..

    Wor Shearer – Al go with fragile mate ha

  • 56 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    Gosling needs a loan spell at a club where expectatoons of him are zero. It will get his head together or find him out. I think he has potential but he could go either way, I certainly don’t see him breaking properly into the first team until he does. Obertan might also benefit from this but in a tidy championship side – maybe a league 1 battering would destroy his confidence altogether!

  • 57 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    Davybtoon -yeah hes got a cruciate knee ligsment injury currently and is on a free although we will need to pay minimal compensation

  • 58 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    If Cabaye is injured along with Tiote, Guthrie and Vukic, i expect this lineup;


    That’s not my prefference, i just think thats what AP will field.

  • 59 Wor Shearer // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM


    I think he’d end up on crutches in no time if he played in League 1. Ha!

  • 60 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    Gt89 yea agree they hav to go loan to improve look tavernier reckon he’s brilliant since his loan, but u also hav to use them when there here to use why bring in rtaylor or shola we know what they can play abeid n Vukic n give the experience n chance to show what they can do, take Vukic for example was brilliant v WBA at sjp n then never gets another go, players like fergie great when he came v swansea n spurs but yet hardly gets a chance

  • 61 Wor Shearer // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    is Cabaye injured?

  • 62 Pardew's fist pump // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    Smile, we have both of them 😀

    I wish people would stop talking about Ba in almost villainous terms, that will only ostracise him from us. Hoping for some uplifting chants for him tomorrow, to raise his spirits, aiding him in putting Bolton to the sword along with HBA and Cisse.

  • 63 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    Come to think of it, how come Obertan isn’t loaned to Swansea? He’d slot right into their speedy approach play and then stall-near-the-box style 🙂

  • 64 Wor Shearer // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM


    Fergy is a class act!

  • 65 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    Well it’s looking like Douglas, Petiers, butterfield n amalfatano are gonna happen, of course we can never b sure till there holding up the shirt but it’s looking positive

  • 66 pardew no 1 // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    i honestly think ba will get the goals tomorrow and cisse will play on the wing coz he is very good going back as well and the biggest problem for us against Bolton is that young Japanese on loan from arsenal he looks really good and can run the 100 metres in 9 something seconds and that is closed to the quickest person on earth whos name i cant spell

  • 67 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    Wor shearer I think fergie, abeid n Vukic are all great but I don’t think they get enough game time to b even better

  • 68 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    @59 yeah but remember Vuckic was found out in the Liverpool game big time. Pards obviously scopes out his rated players like him. Gosling, fergy etc but knows inti£ately what they are NOT capable of week in week out, and that generally is match stamina and concentraion. Those who AP rates play regularly or go on loan. Players like Kadar are shown the door.

  • 69 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    Well duff ripped that alonso apart yesterday hba is gonna have a field day against him

  • 70 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Tsunski not asking for these players to start every game am they shud b getting 20/30 min sub appearances over the likes of rtaylor

  • 71 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    If that hot/cold journeyman Duffers can do him than HBA will be like a cat with a ball of string.

    So are we in shape for handing out a good hiding tomorrow? Weather will not be good so that might make things unpredictable, but because of wholesale changes I think we may continue the disciplined and watchful back line approach a la Swans game. Crowd might draw a goal or two more out of our boy though 🙂

  • 72 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:42 PM

    Must say thought the result against Swansea was great but Pardew was spot in in saying the lads were flat, thought the team exc.Benny/Cisse all looked jaded.

    First and foremost in the premier league all players need to be at it, think Fergy’s introduction will provide some added energy and legs to the midfield, Jonas and Cabaye look like they need a break, just one last big effort before they hav a decent break, hope pardew is on the ball as to who may not be ‘up for it’ as this is the only way we will drop points for me.

  • 73 t00ntime // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    @davyb me and my dad were saying exactly the same about HBA lol

  • 74 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    Davy – nothing wrong in that but if yoi think Raylor hasn’t in fairness cost us games and has done a job when called on. Potentially these lads being off the pace could cost us, as vuckic and gosling have earlier in the season. It’s those little things that match practice and 90+mins of concentration will give them. I wouldn’t lile to look back on tomorrowsmatch with bolton getting the win and wondering why Pards chose THIS tie to experiment

  • 75 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    Man city winning today could b great motivation for us as if we beat Bolton we would go 4th all b it for a few hours if Chelsea win

  • 76 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    Davy – totally agree with the yung uns getting 1st team exposure over Raylor, think Raylor is almost Shola like in that he is a great pro and a super lad to have around the club, however certainly doesnt hav the impact from the bench as the mackem slayer does.

  • 77 Howden Mag // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    On the topic of developing youth players, I consider that we are doing ok. The kids sit top of the league at the moment, the scouts appear to be doing their job at youth level as well. Good quality coaching from the club has developed players like Ferguson, Ameobi, Tavernier etc. Hopefully these lads will continue to develop and deserve their first team place. It is tough at that age to compete with International players who are first team choices and rightly so. I believe their development is being handled very well by the club just like everything else in the club. We are being run so professional now, I am amazed still at the amount of criticism that gets bandied about about owners, management, tactics team selection etc. I am really proud of what the club has achieved this season. HWTL

  • 78 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    Pieters is playing a cup final in the dutch league today, anyone know where we maybe could watch it?

  • 79 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    Tsunki if u have that attitude with young players though they will never come through, look at ferguson at man utd he’s not scared to play youngsters he’s brought them on in champions league games n everything, he always gives them 20mins here n there n then if he feels they need a season on loan he does it but he always gives them a chance to prove themselves

  • 80 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    Dannyo cud b on Espn

  • 81 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    Oh Barton, what have u done… Left out of the squad completely. Injury?

  • 82 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    Was Hughton a managerial genius getting us into a decent position in the league and hammering teams with losers such as Carroll, Enrique, Nolan and Barton as our ‘Backbone’, eh, seems like the world has been turned upside down, wot a laff, for once NUFC seem to be just doing unbelievable things, even the media are considering giving us some credit.

  • 83 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    I have a feeling that this has been a season where Pardew accustumes himself a bit, and the fact that he wants to perform in his first full season.
    I’d like to think he’ll get more comfortable now and hopefully he’ll give more chances to the youngsters.
    Cause this season, coming to youngsters, has been extremely poor, and there’s been allot of “safing” with player selections.

  • 84 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:00 PM

    Check ha we’ve been top 7 all season n the media are only jus starting to take seriously as European contenders it’s a joke

  • 85 wwtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:01 PM

    Off topic
    Copied from newspaper blog, seems some liverpudlians don’t as yet see light at the end of the tunnel

    Being a Liverpool fan at the moment is akin to being a Catholic, a burden we bare and pay lip service to.
    The weekly procession of obligation, the false idols which we’re not really sure we believe in, the hope of salvation but inevitable damnation and a pedestal it probably doesn’t deserve, yet it’s something we can’t let go of.
    It’s archaic and others can see what we can not because we’re blinded by faith and they are not.

    (I think his mates better hide all sharp objects!) lmfao.

  • 86 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    Although I don’t think pardew has giving the youngsters a proper chance I can not slate pardiola bcoz he’s turned average players like rtaylor, perch, Guthrie, best into great hard working squad players who u now wouldn’t want leave

  • 87 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    The transformation of James perch has to be pardew biggest success I think he’s been outstanding the last 3 games n he would b one of the first names in the team sheet in this form

  • 88 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    Personally i want Perch to partner Collo at CB when Collo returns. As Perch offers much more pace and his a better tackler than Willo aswell.
    Didn’t think i’d say that when Saylor got injured, lol.

  • 89 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    Looking at 2moros fixtures cud tottenham drop points to norwich, unlikely but they seem to have gon off the boil, Chelsea have a real tough game at Fulham, fancy them to drop points, however arsenal away to wolves wednesday, easy win for me, cud we be in top 4 for a couple of days, wud be class if norwich beat spuds,

    Pardew just needs to find out which spuds players have a release clause and then go do a class press conference about maybe being interested, i know thats what i wud do.

  • 90 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    Check it’s the fixtures after this set that cud b a big weekend in battle for the top 4 on the 21st of April
    Nufc v stoke
    Arsenal v Chelsea
    Qpr v spurs

  • 91 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    Lads, Perch has been great at CB last few games, only game this year were he could be faulted was Norwich away, but really that was never going to be fair, him and simpson up against holt and morrison, unfair to judge him on that, thought he was better than Collo against Swansea and WBA at home and was decent when he came on against Chelsea even though most the crowd were against him.

    The boy has shown some serious balls coming back and playing well in front of 52000 sceptical supporters, as bizarre as this sounds his contribution has been as important as any others in the squads to were we currently are.

  • 92 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    Aye, both the Tottenham and Chelsea game offers a real chance for us tomorrow, just pray we keep the run going and we don’t go tits up.
    Huge amount of injuries atm, first time this season i’m looking forward to us having a break.

  • 93 Tommyy // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    Looking back to Christmas time when we had the run of tough games and were struggling and then ACON was coming up, pretty much everyone in the football world wrote us off as lucky and over achieving, all of them shouting us down and saying we’d sink like a stone from then on.
    Seeing where we are now, fighting for fourth and level on points with Chelsea, leaves me with an immense sense of pride at what everyone at Newcastle has achieved. If Pardew doesn’t take manager of the year I’ll be annoyed. We have blown everyone else’s opinion out of the water and I love it.

  • 94 check the toastie // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    Fixtures look good eh Davy, looking forward to stoke already, hope we win 2moro though, see you later lads off for dinner.

  • 95 Tommyy // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    We need to just grab a win tomorrow even if we scrape it. We desperately need this two week break for our injuries to clear up. We’re looking threadbare at the minute. I hope Cabaye and Colo make it tomorrow. Replace Tiote with Perch and we shouldn’t miss too much.
    If they don’t we need massive performances from Tavernier and Gosling.
    Tomorrow could possibly be the weakest we have seen our team all season.

  • 96 WesJameson // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    Sorry Lads, but is this a dig at OUR blog, at Ed as well?

  • 97 berryelliot // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    dannyo here ya go

  • 98 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    I think these results Cud happen

    Arsenal v city (city win)
    Nufc v Bolton (Nufc win)
    Spurs v Norwich (spurs win)
    Fulham v chelsea (draw)
    Wolves v arsenal (arsenal win)
    Nufc v stoke(Nufc win)
    Arsenal v Chelsea (draw)
    Qpr v spurs (qpr win )

    Table would look like this
    Spurs 62pts
    Arsenal 62pts
    Nufc 62pts
    Chelsea 58pts

  • 99 mindshaft // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    Collos fit for tomorrow, perch to move into midfield to replace tiote, cabaye fit to play

  • 100 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    Mindshaft how do u know that?

  • 101 mindshaft // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:33 PM

    Think Spurs will wrap up 3rd, if arse win today I think they’ll get 4th, lose and my top four bet is looking good

  • 102 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    Id love it if we got top 4 but I think 5th is were we will finish

  • 103 Marty-Toon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    If we get a euro spot the Guthrie will stay
    Why would he leave and join the likes of West ham or Blackburn when he can be part of a team in Europe?
    Simmo would also be mad to not sign on.
    Although we will have to give goin rate as they’re both playin well this year.
    I’d have Simmo over Beresford or Warren B or any of our other so called full backs over the last years
    Europe is where we need to be.
    We are ahead of ourselves as I’d like many others here would have taken 8 th place this year and been happy.
    Great season although it’s not the PLs strongest season with no team showing quality all season and many teams slipping up throughout.
    Usually we see 6 teams winning almost all their games but this year has been very up n down

  • 104 Marty-Toon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    Doubt Qpr will beat spurs!
    Qpr have been useless

  • 105 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:44 PM

    Marty beat arsenal last week so u never kno, all am really hoping for is Chelsea drawing or losing there next 2 away to fulham n arsenal n us winning our next 2

  • 106 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    Ouch, red card after 14 minutes for QPR…Goodnight Mark Hughes, u might aswell go to bed.

  • 107 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    That has gotta b one of the softist red cards I’ve seen, young was offside n it wasn’t a pen

  • 108 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    What was that? A triple BS.

    Offside that wasn’t given
    Red Card

    How much help Man U need?

  • 109 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    Pardew’s reticence about Europe is simply because of the pressure it will place upon the squad. The team have performed wonders this season but at times even competing on the domestic front, we have been threadbare and really struggling for cover – against Swansea we “utility players” in several different positions.
    There’s no doubt in my mind that Pardew is wary of expectations given his experience at West Ham and the fact that his bosses now are unlikely to deviate from a high risk strategy which revolves around trading players and investing, in real terms, very little.

  • 110 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:56 PM

    Solano if we get Europe yes we have to enjoy it, but the league remains no1, then Europe then the cups for me, bcoz as much as I’d like us to win a cup, I’d rather we try in finish in the top6 for the next 4/5 season and really establish our selves as one of the big teams again then we can look at cups, but with Europe comes better players n cups will more than likely happen

  • 111 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    Taiwo is a very, very good player, rarely found out.
    Worth a punt if u ask me, now that AP has seen how he does in the PL.
    We were linked with him pre-January where we not?

  • 112 tdt // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    It’s only taken the officials 14 mins in this match to destoy it as a contest and give the “big team” another easy 3 points against a lesser team.

    Linesman was looking right along the line but still didn’t notice the offside!

    There’s incompetence and then there’s down-right corruption.

    Looking objectively at the Chelsea game yesterday and the man u game already today, you have to be suspicious of match-fixing.

    Look at Italy – it happens all the time. The problem is in this country it’s a taboo subject, as if the English game is far too special and propper to even consider such corruption.

    The fact that you will be branded some sort of conspiracy theorist if you even mention the possibility of corruption in the EPL, makes it a taboo subject, particularly in the media, as their job might even be jepardised by such suggests.

    But I suppose that’s how free speech works in the mainstream media, people know what to say and what not to say, without needing to be told.

    HAHA as I write the last sentence, the commentator on the man u game states “this is another example for the conspiracy theorists…”

    THAT makes it sound as if corruption is some sort of imaginary concept!

  • 113 Barras // Apr 8, 2012 at 1:59 PM


    Summarised superbly.

  • 114 pardew no 1 // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    any u guys consider taraabt if they go down if we get in europe he would be gud and we will be rape europe and someone will want him for 25-30 mill

  • 115 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    I would of thought about taraabt b4 this season but he’s been terrible IMO

  • 116 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    davyb @ 110….For me, I would rather see us win something – to get that almighty monkey off our back – but the club have stated their desire for Euro qualification in the past. Therefore due consideration and re-thinking maybe in order if we achieve it way ahead of their original target.
    As a fan however, brill Euro nights aside, we have played in Europe many many times in the last few years and very nearly won the Prem yet still get “you’ve never won f**kall” . This was even spat at me by a Swindon fan not so long ago. Cup please!

  • 117 pardew no 1 // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    yep but thats why we play him in europe coz i think he is like obertan talent just not ready for the epl but obertan will be in the next 2 seasons

  • 118 WWJBD // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:12 PM

    European nights or a cup finally in the cabinet? Howay its a cup every time surely!

    Plus if we get a cup next season we get Europa

  • 119 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    Solano but the more successful we are in the league n Europe the more chance we hav of winning a cup, let’s jus go n win the Europa league first go
    We’re not very lucky in the cup to b honest amount of away ties we get drawn is unreal n if we do get to the final we always manage to face an in form team like man utd or arsenal, not to mention the years we get knocked out off crap teams the finalists aren’t so strong

  • 120 Wor Shearer // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:16 PM

    We rarely get lucky in the cup draws but a cup win brings European nights!

    ManU have been pretty poor.

  • 121 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    I’d love a cup but I’d take top 5 finish over a cup everytime the stronger we get the more we likely to win a cup

  • 122 tdt // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    Thanks Barras @113.

    Does anyone else see it like I do?

    It seems so obvious that there’s underhand activity going on, but everyone who is capable of doing something about it or capable of flagging it up to the public either refuses to acknowledge it or are too scared to face up to it for fear of journalistic suicide?

    It would seem Sky have a big part in it: they hold all the cards financially, and it’s been proven in other spheres that they will break the law to get what they want.

    People forget that it’s the same parent company that has been briding police officers for years to get news stories to sell newspapers who financially controls the PL ffs!

    Are we simply to accept that, even though they are willing to do this in other areas of their business, they would never dream of influencing football games to maximise profits and make the big teams bigger?

    Find me such a perspective from any major, mainstream, influential journalist or news provider – please!

    I’m sure nobody could find one, because they wouldn’t have their job if they were to even suggest such a possibility!

    That is the problem, and until it is exposed, referees will continue to give outragous decisions that everone knows is wrong.

    It also makes me seriously wonder: is this why FIFA are so keen to avoid video technology?

    Think about it.

  • 123 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    Davyb…I take what you are saying but a cup first is also much more achievable and realistic…..Leicester, Swindon, Wimbledon etc have all done it in my lifetime and a look at years 1993-98 and 2001-5 should tell you that high finishes for NUFC count for little in the hunt for football kudos and glory.

  • 124 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    WWJBD…hello again…..!

  • 125 geordiejamie89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    Newcastle to get the treble would be quite nice. Europa League, Prem title and F.A. Cup. Asking too much?

  • 126 OLDGEORDIE // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:35 PM

    Off the subject, I dont post much just “lurk” but would like to say


    There feel better now thank you

  • 127 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    Jamie@125…..we have achieved the equivalent over the period of 77years!

  • 128 "Jose Enrique... were in the top 6" (steve) // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:37 PM

    Players diving about trying to cheat to win free-kicks/penaltys make me want to stop watching football. Should be a straight red for diving, cheating and acting like a fairy.

  • 129 tdt // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:37 PM

    OLDGEORDIE @126 – I totally agree, have a look at comments 112 and 122 for a my more detailed opinion.

  • 130 cupiddstunt // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    pardew no 1 @ # 66

    Reading your post I would not have thought you would have any problems spelling BOLT 🙂

  • 131 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    Sorry lads but have you read that link @ 86 – what a turdy thing to do! ‘Fellow’ NUFC supporter? PFFF! It made my blood boil so I sent their editor an email it got to me that much. Gets 🙁

    It read:-

    I email you because I do not want to register and post this topic because I find the type of article posted today re american NUFC blog and those who run/frequent it being a joke for suggesting they ‘support’ the mackems to be juvenile, specious and repelling. I frequent several NUFC blogs and while some have their insular and opinionated characters, I find they at least have the character to recognise a fellow Supporter and confer dignity on that, whether they be from outside Newcastle, the uk, or europe. The blog in question suggested ‘supporting’ sland in a tongue in cheek article designed for humour but to underline that the result could favour our team. If the poster of your article, NuMad, I believe, had read the blog posts he would have realised this. To be so damning and vitriolic is something that should drive NUFC supporters away from your site until you can demonstrate a less insular, elitist & spiteful attitude, especially to overseas supporters who laudably follow NUFC with true dedication despite being so far away from here in the NE of England. I expect research to be at least competent from your article suppiers, and a more respectful attitude to fellow fans before spouting such stupid remarks designed simply to give the pious contributor currency among his like-minded loutish peers. If you can show fairness, you will post this opinion and give the contributor in question the opportunity to defend his view if that is indeed possible.

    Ill see what happens. They’ll probably say I’m a mackem 🙂

  • 132 Pardew's fist pump // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    I spoke about this yesterday, there’s either some form of subterfuge somewhere along the chain of power, or these officials are so inept they should be fired immediately after the matches – it’s getting ridiculous.

    And I don’t readily swallow the arbitrary ‘it evens itself’ explanation, without a shred of evidence – I can guarantee it doesn’t.

  • 133 WWJBD // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    Afternoon solano how’s things going? Enjoying our little run of results

  • 134 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    I agree mate. You are right.
    That was uncalled for with their idiotic remarks. I don’t understand what’s their problem. It is not like Ed said we should really support them, just that it will be good for our chances in Europe if they win.
    Really weird people in that website. almost never read it thou, so don’t care about them too much.

  • 135 nufc786 // Apr 8, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    good thing to do mate.

    HOW DARE HE INSULT ED and us fellow bloggers

    to be fair he shud have taken the title with a pich of salt we are not serious about the mackems. but this guy who insulted ed sounds like a 42 year old virgin to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 136 cupiddstunt // Apr 8, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    Knobhead @ # 109

    To quote:-
    the fact that his bosses now are unlikely to deviate from a high risk strategy which revolves around trading players

    Every team trades players you mug.

    What players were traded in Jan or are you just conveniently missing that bit out of your twisted view of the board?

    Player trading like Enrique who wanted away as he could not see the wood for the trees

    Carroll away as his head was turned and he thought he was better than he was.

    Nolan wanting more than he was worth.

    And to top off the so called player trading Barton allowed to walk for nothing.

    All have been proven to be of far greater value in their own minds than to NUFC but it appears that some like yourself would prefer to go back to the “good old days” of stupid big money signings and eternal failure.

    Knobhead appears to be a suitable name as you look to be thinking with the head in your trousers.

    You are using the wrong grey matter bud the wrong grey matter.

  • 137 geordiejamie89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    Man Utd gifted yet another game. Getting boring now.

  • 138 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    @136 opening your tirade with an insult – how eloquent! I suggest in order not to be reciprocally attired with the same insulting monicker you might simply register your contradiction minus the name calling.

    Knobhead 🙂

  • 139 Offkey // Apr 8, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    @ Tsunki – I liked your email mate……if I am honest, I was hoping for a draw, I guess thats supporting them…….dont get me wrong, I am not happy with that, but if that result was the difference between Europa or CL……I think you would have to be a mug to have wished or anything else (if europe is our aim)

  • 140 Offkey // Apr 8, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    for anything else*****

  • 141 Barras // Apr 8, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    Happy Jesus-Was-Resurrected-Day everyone.

  • 142 Offkey // Apr 8, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    cupiddstunt – I think you have got the wrong end of the stick and misinterpreted what he is saying to have a rant

  • 143 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 3:56 PM

    WWJBD @133…enjoying it a lot…after a a recent bout of illness it’s just the tonic….I see those who like to play around with pen-names and aliases are still as prevalent in their lobotomy valley drivel and oh, there is the wit of dicspudnutt
    I thought they would be too busy raising funds to get a statue of Mike and Del outside of SDA to bother much on here. I hear they are planning to change the name of the Gallowgate End again? Is that true?

  • 144 LGFUAD21 // Apr 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Finally gots me some internetz back.

    What’s craic with Cabaye and Guthrie for Bolton?
    Anybody know anything solid or is it just speculation.

    People talk about Abeid being a Tiote stand in. I see him more suited to Cabaye’s role personally.

    Against Bolton we will need to use our pace and attacking abilities, they are poor defensively, but can be threatening on the attack. Myachi has been brilliant for them, and even Ngog has done good stuff there (I know?!?!?!?)

    I would probably play Vuckic in place of Cabaye if he is injured. I’m still not sold on Gosling but been hearing stuff about him being good in training. If Colo is out still then Perch at CB is a no brainer. Dont know who I would have in place of Tiote out of Gosling or Abeid.

    Worry with Gosling is that he is a bit of a mentalist defensively, could do something stupid like get sent off.

    Didnt see Fergie play @ Swansea so have no comment on whether he should get a look in. Some people seem sold, but im reluctant if they are the same people saying he should be at LB over Santon. But Fergie and Santon on the Left sound enticing.

    For me Bolton has to be 4-3-3. Its been workign great for us lately.

  • 145 cupiddstunt // Apr 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Tsunki @ # 138

    If you actually read through knobheads posts you would have read that he actually started the name calling quite some time ago and continued it un- solicited just a thread or two ago.

    Knobhead is one of the neggers that have an unhealthy obsession with MA and the board, he/she/it has been obsessed with misquoting supposed facts and figures and making lame contrived accusations about the board and were the perpetrators of some of the most abusive vitriol directed at anyone that had anything slightly positive to say about the owner, board, and manager.

    I have not started anything with an insult merely continuing the communication in kind from just a thread or two ago.

    As for my post @ 136 you really need to re-read it as it is not a tirade, it is just a quote from knobheads post followed by some facts ended by an opinion that knobhead is using the wrong head.

    I think you need to re-evaluate your understanding of what a tirade is I doubt my post @ 136 qualifies as a tirade.

  • 146 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    Bonjour messieurs.

  • 147 Rotonda heights // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:04 PM


    You beat me to it, but I wasn’t as eloquent and cerebral as you.

    To their editor

    Are you a total moron or do you take special lessons?

    Try reading the whole article and the context it was written in, you xenophobic dickhead.

  • 148 cupiddstunt // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    Offkey @ # 142

    I think you will see as you read knobheads posts that they do have an unhealthy obsession with Ma the board the manager and anyone that is not anti Ashley and they insinuate some deep conspiratorial theories about how Ma is only looking to destroy the club by milking/asset stripping, selling as MA is only interested in money bla bla bla.

    Post 143 is a typical post of knobheads trying to run down anyone that hints of being happy with how the club is progressing.

    And as per my reply to Tsunki if you re-read the post I think you will find it does not really qualify as either a rant or a tirade

  • 149 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM will find that my post @109 was an opinion expressed on our manager’s words relevant to the thread without resorting to petty name-calling – it’s not my fault if people insist on playing with silly aliases!
    As for previous threads and posts – in goldfish memory world you will observe that nothing exists in reality but Ed’s current thread. 😉

  • 150 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    Arsenal is tearing city apart.

  • 151 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:18 PM

    titdudspunc…does indeed have an agenda to promote Mike Ashley as the sole architect of Newcastle’s excellent season and if anyone deviates from that line they get called a Judas or a Mackem – circumspection of those who changed the name of the stadium for free in November is not allowed in Lobotomy Valley!

  • 152 tdt // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:19 PM

    Come on Man C!

  • 153 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    City is waking up.

  • 154 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    I asked a question earlier if anyone thought cisse could score more than ba this season, well he already has more he scored 9goals in 17games for Freiburg in the first half of this season n has now scored 9goals in 8 games for us putting him in 18 for the season 2 ahead of ba

  • 155 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:34 PM

    Ah glad to see you’re back solano! How’ve you been keeping mate?

  • 156 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:37 PM

    The sooner we get the fourth video official the better – Chelski shafted Wigan with 2 offisde goals yesterday and now we’ve got the Fergy ref at it again

  • 157 cupiddstunt // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:37 PM

    Knobhead @ # 149

    You were the one to resume the as you put it “petty name calling” a few posts ago so if you see it as petty why did you recommence it???
    And if nothing exists in reality but Ed’s current thread why do you permanently go on about the past and how the club has been run.

    Knobhead if you think I have an agenda then you really are a delusional conspiracy theorist, for one you will never find a post from me calling anyone a judas and I doubt very much you will find the term mackem used in any post by me.

    I often post in reply to groundless negative posts like yours asking for clarification of the reasons for the post, like before you posted some conspiracy drivel and I post some facts asking you to clarify, you can’t so you go on a tangent.

    As for silly aliases I think 95% of the posters use an alias and mine is in deference to a very funny entertainer, and are you going to lie through your teeth and say your name really is solano.

  • 158 fray bentos // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:44 PM


    No point arguing with these idiots mate, they are just naturally negative and distrusting people

    They honestly believe that a businessmen wouild intentionally buy a football club to run it into the ground therfore money, like some sort of super-villian which they read about in the comics they probably read, hes probably on the payroll of Tottenham in their conspiracy theory heeds

  • 159 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    @Tsunki: I’ve never paid attention to NUFC Mad. I don’t like any website that looks like it was made in the late 90s and certainly don’t take any writer seriously who tries to paint everybody with the same brush as him (“try saying that in the Percy..” – obviously somebody hasn’t been in the Percy for many years.)

  • 160 pbNcl // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:45 PM

    I agree with tdt
    I believe corruption is rife, I think there are people out there with evidence but who are afraid to speak. Its almost obvious if you ask me

  • 161 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    Also Tsunki you should have made light that Ed used to live and work in Newcastle and moved to the US when he retired… also played for Newcastle United. Also gets up at daft o clock in the morning to make sure we get news when we get up. Given that this blog was once the most respected among the Toon communities, it all seems a bit of sour grapes to me like 😉

  • 162 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 4:49 PM

    Balotelli will never finish this game…

    Anyway, city is better now.

  • 163 NickeAlvaro // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:00 PM

    Hi niafron, with Dreamboats comments on Debuchy this weekend, what is the thought in France of NUFC signing him in the summer?
    Wouldnt he cost quite a bit?

  • 164 cupiddstunt // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:01 PM

    fray bentos @ # 158

    Must be carefull how I phrase this as knobhead and his group of neggers will looking to jump on it, but you are about on the nail there, why would a successful businessman throw 300mil down the drain just because he was as some on here expostulated “a spurs supporter” and wanted to see us go down.

    Or in the case of knobhead and a couple of others buy up a (debt ridden) football club in order to solely milk it. Now that really makes sense doesn’t it? (well it does if you are a conspiracy theorist).

    Now you have to be very careful as knobhead will be listing you in his lobotomised group as you have indicated a positive thought toward NUFC and you will also be ridiculed by him for have an alias. .

  • 165 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:14 PM


    Although am not a conspiracy theorist much of what you say could be true – its big money and why shoiuld football be cleaner than banking or any other arm of busness – there’s no reasons why match officials with their incredibly high wages shouldn’t be any less corruptible than, say, a manager….

  • 166 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    What I don’t understand cupidstunt, is why you repeat the same thing over and over again? Though I will say this:

    Or in the case of knobhead and a couple of others buy up a (debt ridden) football club in order to solely milk it. Now that really makes sense doesn’t it?

    Ashley didn’t see the books before he bought the club. The amazingly incredible top class businessman didn’t do due diligence on his rather expensive investment and he got burned. Oh, the debts he paid off? They’re still there, we just owe Ashley the money now instead of the bank.

    The sad thing is, some of the people who are suddenly gargling the love custard of the Ashley regime are the same people who detested the man and everything he stood for not so long ago. Don’t get me wrong, I want to like him (and I do like some of the work on the financial side) but one good season won’t change the collective opinion of us cynics.

    We learn from the past, and whether you like it or not, Mike Ashley does not have a glittering past, does he?

    Now my 2 cents are in – can we please stop this childish slapfighting on the blog? So many good posters have left the place because of it, we’re all grown ups so how about we debate like the adults we are, eh?

  • 167 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:15 PM


    Well, would say between 5 and 10 millions, and indeed, is a very good player, but we don’t need a RB, we already got Simmo, Santon and even Raylor.

  • 168 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM


    As a resident in OV I object to being labelled as lobotomised. If you want to avoid getting slagged then resist the temptation to dish it out.

  • 169 NickeAlvaro // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM

    Do you think then if Simpson leaves he would be great for us, however if Simpson stays we will likely spend the money elsewhere?
    How Marvin Martin doing? 🙂

  • 170 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:20 PM

    I don’t understand the Simpson slagging tbh. Not saying he’s the best RB but it seems people just nit pick with what he does wrong and completely ignores the good.

  • 171 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:23 PM


    A lot of us can remember the 80s when a lot of businesses on the edge of trouble were bought up cheap and asset stripped so it can happen and we ought to reserve judgement on the Ashley regime if only for that reason. He has yet to prove he won’t buy cheap and sell high giving ius a revolvong door policy yet – end of the summer window will prove it one way or the other.
    Personally I think Ashley’s ego will mean he has something to prove and that is our best hope. Also think Pardiola will prove to him that growing the club is the best option.

  • 172 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    i would go as far as saying simpson is building an understanding with arfa, however if he does leave, debuchy would be perfect.

    433, we have a dm and box to box in tiote and cabaye, we need someone like sigurdsson as a acm, vuckic when not injured? quite possibly,

  • 173 NickeAlvaro // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

    I like Simpson, quite a bit in actually. Not great going forward but Ive yet to see a winger turn him inside out this season. I believe a defender should defend first anyway 🙂
    Id be gutted if he left, more so than if Guthrie in truth.

  • 174 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    I think Simmo typifies what Pardiola has done – he’s managed to get journeymen players to improve their game. And Simmo is more solid than his critics allow. I’d hate to see him leave. We need him and Guthrie etc., if we want to compete on a European stage as we need a stronger squad

  • 175 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    Who remembers 6-1? Who remembers 8-2?
    Man C are giving the title to Man U with a lot of style.

  • 176 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    Martin had a very quiet season. Far from his last one.

    Concerning Debuchy, even if Simmo leave, i would rather recruit a LB and play with Santon on the right.

  • 177 NickeAlvaro // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    Fair enough, thanks for the info niafron. 🙂

  • 178 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    What is the difference between Man U and Man C?
    Man U are a group, made out of good players
    Man C are a group of good players

  • 179 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    lobotomy?! Get your own patter dudtitspunc….it is precisely because morons like yourself extrapalate a winning team under Pardew to “prove” the Ashley model is sustainable that posters like myself persist in offering an alternative viewpoint. It isn’t all black and white as you Lobotomy Valley dwellers make out – hence the emergence of many groups enraged by in particular, the name change – an issue you so conveniently sidestep.This opposition to the “official” line is possibly why the club is offering Mackem-like discounts to fill the stadium when in any other era when the team is doing so well, they would be locking thousands out.
    As for misquoting people, find me a post where I have been critical of how Pardew has performed? However, there have been many tools on your side of the fence who have consistently berated the manager for team selections etc
    And if you could read even the most basic balance sheets you will realise that not only is Fat Mike earning millions through free advertising, he is actually showing whopping transfer trading profits whilst the debt remains, giving him carte blanche to do whatever he wants!

  • 180 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    Just watched the fixtures.

    Very easy for the spurs… More difficult for Arsenal, but our is worst.

  • 181 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    *are… is… you know what I mean 🙂

  • 182 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    is it bad i have more faith in perch than santon in defence 🙁


  • 183 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    though santons better going forward like!

  • 184 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:36 PM


    and your point is ?

  • 185 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:37 PM


    Something’s got to give right?
    Santon is better going forward than defending, but it is also his first season in the PL compare to the other players there in the list.

    I want Arsenal to lose, but they don’t deserve it, playing so well. Making Man C look like Wolves.

  • 186 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    How lucky is city!

    But they will never hold on if they continue like that.

  • 187 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    Magpies.. I actually agree with a lot of what you say but the OV nonsense has created a whole new blog police which it seems has made a few fly the nest ( though I can’t say for defo because of my own absence due to ill health).
    On your point regarding the transfer window…there have been thousands of statements from posters , every window, saying the next window will prove it one way or the other!
    Every window but the last one Ash made a profit and the debate goes on. There are easier ways to make your mind up on trust….go and ask Ian Murtagh, Doug Wetherall, Kevein Keegan, Alan Shearer, Chris Hughton.

  • 188 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    I do agree, MagpiesFlyHigh, but I seem to recall Pardew talking about saleable talents and that we bought cheap solely to sell high. I also admit there isn’t much of a precedent for a revolving door policy but again it’s something that could be a very real worry given the comments I mentioned earlier.

    I certainly agree with reserving judgement, however. For what he has done, however, I’m very much leaning to the “negative” side simply because he hasn’t done enough to prove otherwise imo. I think the only time we’ll really have the full picture is when the debts to him are paid off and until then it will mostly be speculation and opinion.

  • 189 Pecorino ( will let you figure it out) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    Arsenal are pathetic cant score to save their lives 😀

    City like a cat 9 lives….

  • 190 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    okay guys, im 16, ive been living in dagenham all my life and have been a nufc fan since i was about 6, but because of the distance have never been to st james’s,

    im off to uni next year, and although its not as good as the top ones, ive been looking at going to newcastle uni and getting a season ticket

    the question is, do i give up possibly going to a top uni because of my passion for the club 🙁 thoughts?

  • 191 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    BTW..evening Thump…I can’t walk yet but I can still type! How’s you?

  • 192 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    and Oleg, i guess youre right, i just feel with our attacking flair maybe the defence could do with shoring up? hba and santon on the right would be asking for a hiding, someone like nani would have a field day

  • 193 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:43 PM


    No, your studies first.

  • 194 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM

    Same as ever, solano. Skint as buggery but I’m working on a few projects with some close friends that could turn into something special. Been meaning to come along to the meetings but no cash = no go!

    Can’t walk? What happened matey?

  • 195 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    hmm, i guess, niafron, i wanted to learn french at a level but i thought it would be too much with my others, and now ive forgotten it all :(, am i missing out on much??

  • 196 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    PIBID…Newcastle IS a top Uni in many fields…it depends on what you want to read/study.

  • 197 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    solano, im looking at mechanical/aeronautical engineering. ive ordered a prospectus, should be through soon

  • 198 Barras // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:46 PM


    If you can get the grades, go to Durham university, and then you can still get a season ticket. As Durham university is one of the best universities in the United Kingdom.

  • 199 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:48 PM


  • 200 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Thump..under investigation healthwise…drop me a line as I lost ur number when my phone blew up! Be good to renew our old sparring debates “beyond the Valley” 😉

  • 201 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    but newcastle university doesnt offer aeronautical, if i change to wanting to study chemical engineering i will almost definitely apply

  • 202 Pecorino ( will let you figure it out) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:48 PM


    City are finished title race over…damn Not good for us either…

  • 203 Barras // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    The last spot of the Champions League race is down to Newcastle United, Tottenham and Chelsea. I knew that before Arsenal have won today anyway. Arsenal rightly deserve 3rd place.

  • 204 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Durham offer aeronautical too, the problem is with what i want to do , my lowest requirement out of the Unis ive been looking at is AAA, which is erm…high.

    I should get something along the lines of anything from A*A*AA-AABB aslong as i work hard, durham seems a good bet

  • 205 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:51 PM


  • 206 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    I still think that things can change either way for 3rd-6th place. 6 games is 18 points, there are 3 points in there.
    The question is – can we step up against Chelsea and City (and of course our other games).

  • 207 Beattie25 // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    I used to be a proud nufc supporter for many reasons. Once upon a time I was proud of the clubs league position, proud of the players we had but most of all I was proud how all our supporters were united. No matter your locality to the ground every nufc supporter belong to something special and we were more than supporters, we were like a brotherhood.

    Since ma has taken over we have divided, split down the middle and now we are continuously at each others throats and I am no longer proud to share my club with some of you lot! Is that ashleys fault? No it is not. He is the owner of our club, a business man and all owners will look to use the club they own to bring in revenue. Yes he played a big part if getting us relegated but he is also responsible for helping return to the league an our current position.

    I support the club, I support the players and I do not care if Ashley plunders our riches, changes the name of the ground to the ‘tampax arena’ if it means we can challenge for the top 6 from now and until he decides to leave.

    Supporting nufc isn’t about the name of a stadium or the owners name, it’s not about which city you live in or how long you’ve supported the club. It’s about cheering on the players that represent your heart on a football pitch and if any fan can turn around and say they are not proud this season then they can go and fcuk themselves.

  • 208 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    My phone’s still cut off mate. Best way to contact me would be on Facebook atm.

  • 209 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    PIBID…Imperial College was always one of the top one’s for that in my day.

  • 210 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    Beattie, well said mate

  • 211 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:53 PM



    French is the tongue of love! The tongue of poertry and also the tongue of european history!

    Many of the best europeans writters and philosoph used french (like some of the greatest russians novelists).

    Sure, if you want to make some technicals studies, it would not be so helpfull, unless you aim to work in France.

    Read somewhere however, the royal air force is about to teach french to all his pilot cause of further more close military cooperation between France and UK.

  • 212 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:55 PM

    aye, solano, i have my imperial prospectus, its top and its in london which is helpful to me. it just seems to lack i dont know, history, personality

  • 213 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    I’m about to agree with Beattie. What has this world came to? 😛

  • 214 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    Niafron, i need to brush up then considering one of the courses ive taken an interest in is aeronautical engineering with pilot studies and a year in continental europe!

  • 215 tdt // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Bloody Man C, needed them to win one game and they couldn’t even do that!

  • 216 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    A very bad blow…

    Even if we win all our games, we will now finish behind the gunners and as i said, the spurs got some easy games to come.

  • 217 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    Good that I am not a gambler. I was sure that when City will see Man U winning, they will go out there to win it. They didn’t look as if they even want to play. Amazing.

  • 218 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    Ok Thump..we need to catch up.
    Beattie – Those of us who live in the city actually do care about the name and traditions of the club – and like it or not, under MA, he has shit on two club legends, a very decent bloke in Hughton and consistently provoked the match attending public as well as admit in court he is a liar. Hence, there is a certain mistrust of certain people at the top.
    Having said that, I am immensely proud that we have a team that has done great this season under the guidance of Manager of the Year, Pardew!

  • 219 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    I saw go Newcastle! and just win as much as we can now and finish strong. We have everything to win and nothing to lose.

    (and go Wolves 🙂 )

  • 220 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Beattie25 // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM


    I almost cried mate. You had me at “f themselves” 🙂

  • 221 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    PIBID at 212…don’t let the fact that Bryan May attended Imperial and the thought of bad haircuts put you off 😉

  • 222 Ben3arfa // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    Arsenal have easy games coming up vs Wolves and Wigan

    FFS Man city , useless c****

  • 223 toonking // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    well arsenal winning today i think means the CL is pretty much impossible for us now because spurs don’t seem to have any hard game left so 1 draw and 1 loss seem unlikely, as for arsenal well there form is just too good ATM.

    As for 5th place well providing fulham can beat chelsea tomorrow even a loss against them could still see us gain 5th because i can’t see them beating arsenal

  • 224 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    haha, if youd seen my hair youd know im not so bothered about that!, you seem to know a lot about imperial? did you go there?

  • 225 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM


    And if you want to work for EADS or MBDA, to speak french would be a real asset.

  • 226 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    arsenal will be third, chelsea sixth, tottenham fifth and THE MIGHTY TOON fourth

  • 227 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:08 PM


    im going to have to relearn it then, i just found it the most difficult subject, by far.

    and thanks also for bringing EADS and MBDA to my attention (y)

  • 228 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    Aye, that we do! When’s the next meeting?

  • 229 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    @223 – no but had mates who attended and had a few nights out and about. Memories of wearing chinese meals in Soho and chatting to birds in Sticky Fingers in Kensington(?) and dossing on an Imperial dorm floor come to mind.

  • 230 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    Sad that Man City couldn’t give Arsenal a better fight than that. City are now out of the titlerun for sure, they’re likely to hold 2nd and have little to play for otherwise imo. 5 games left, 8 points to catch, forget it.
    We still have 5th to fight for, we should focus on that, as AP said, 5th is ours to lose.
    We won’t be catching 4th imo, not gonna think about that.

  • 231 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Thump..will fb message you – a social is long overdue! And barbie season is almost upon us so it needn’t be expensive!

  • 232 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:12 PM

    Beattie25 // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM


    I almost cried mate. You had me at “f**k themselves” 🙂

  • 233 toonking // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:12 PM

    i put most of the blame on man city’s poor form of late on manchini this is what i call bad tactics

  • 234 Oleg G // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:13 PM

    niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    Are you giving away jobs mate? I am looking for an accountant position 🙂

  • 235 Beattie25 // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:15 PM


    That’s the problem with some of the anti Ashley brigade they think that they own the club because they live in the city. The club isnt yours because of your postcode! It’s the same narrow mindedness that doesnt recognise all people of being British based on their skin colour. I am a proud newcastle fan from birth, get to as many matches as I can possibly get to, cry, laugh, cheer and moan as much as the next fan but because I don’t live in the city it means I don’t care about traditions?!

    It’s about making new traditions and being proud of the past but evolving to meet the criteria of modern day football! I was upset at the name change but it is still st James park to me. It is still my church, my holy ground and my home away from home.

    If fans gave so much care about tradition we would still be playing in red and white stripes! I am not for one second saying that traditions should be forgotten but we need to evolve and no matter what changes we are still nufc, which is something no man can change!

  • 236 obatoyou // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    never know, qpr beat arsenal last week
    cant assume the better team will win in every case, we could still come 3rd

  • 237 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    No bother mate, look forward to it!

  • 238 cupiddstunt // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    Thump @ # 166

    I would say I repeat the same things over and over again because the same negative posters post the same negative extrapolations over and over again.

    Why he decided to buy a football club only he knows but when he did buy NUFC he also stated that he was prepared to lose around 25-30 mil a year in his purchase so NUFC hardly sounds like an investment.

    Yes the debt is still there but we are not paying profit on it so saving the club 6-7 mil a year in interest not paid, he has said he will not ask for the money back during his tenure of club owner so again the debt is effectively covered.

    The sad thing is, as you put it some of the people on here just refuse point blank to see that what happened in the beginning was a series of mistakes in all probability prompted by some poor advice MA received from his advisors, but as a club we have been able to overcome these problems and grow from them. I for one have never detested the man as that attitude is a waste of time and emotion.

    Yes we learn from the past but it all depends on what you want to see in the past

    I saw a series of mistakes that were worked on when they were discovered, yes we were relegated but MA kept paying the premiership wages to those that were wanting to stay at the club this enabled a swift return to the premiership.

    We have had a good return to the prem, and an even better second season we have improved the squad considerably and the indications are that we will do the same in the summer, by all accounts one signing already tied up. Cisse bought in in the Jan. Without any of the so called sell before we buy the neggers keep spouting.

    As for MA’s past where do you want to go SD bucked the economic trend and made £200 mil profit last year MA handed back £96 mil in bonuses to his staff SD staff averaged £40,000 plus in bonuses there are thousands of people who will tell you he is a great guy, yes he has made mistakes but he appears to be making amends.

    So how selective do you want to be and how far back into the past do you want to hang onto “cynicism” before it becomes an unhealthy obsession?

  • 239 niafron // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    Well, if we consider how complex is the french Taxe code, we always need accountants!


    All right lads, got go, there’s a great game in France tonight.
    PSG vs OM.

    Bonne soirée messieurs.

  • 240 MacToon // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    Beattie, although you make alot of sense and obviously passionate like most I’m pro North East, Tyneside etc. NUFC is a huge part of Newcastle and the North East and should support the local area as well as be supported by the area, the people, local businesses.
    I’ve always thought we’ve had a raw deal over the years from the power based south and we’ve always had to fight and work hard for everything.
    Proud to be a Geordie, proud to be a Toon fan.

  • 241 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:25 PM


    Extremely well done and argumentive posts for the both of you. Really feel that it can’t be said any better.
    No need to add to those posts, frame em and hang em on the wall.

  • 242 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    Thump Solano

    Some of us like the fact that our expectations have been exceeded. Still in shock really I suppose.
    We know that we’re ahead of the 5 year plan.
    We’re worried that we will end up with a revolving door approach so end up standing still – not being able to compete at a top 4 / European level – being on the edge of top 6 and not winning any cups and we’ll only know what the management will do once we qualify for Europe and Pardiola can lay out what is really needed to the management in terms of spending etc., at the end of the summer transfer window
    If at the end of this summer we have only replaced those who have left and another 1-2 through the door then we’ll know that the squad isn’t strong enough and so we’ll be also rans next season too.
    As we have to wait for each transfer window to close before knowing then that is why the jury will be out on the management for another four months. Proof of the pudding and all that.

    In terms of repaying the loans – well I still think MA is looking for enough of a capital gain when he sells and will sit on that as he can write it off against other business profits. It”s always helpful in business to be able to write profits and losses off against each other – even if it is a paper trick to cut tax.

    Beattie – Take your point – I’m more than happy with how its going but still sceptical about MA, though acknowledging the strategy seems to be working at present. Doesn’t mean I’m at war with anyone who thinks differently. OV isn’t a place for hopeless optimists with rose tinted spectacles either but we are on the up and I want Toon to win something before I die. And preferably have a ticket to the final…..

  • 243 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Beattie..would we be Newcastle United if we played in the Tampax Arena and wore red white and blue? The answer is NO!
    And if you are implying I am some kind of provincial xenophobe then you couldn’t be further from the truth. I have travelled and worked in many places around the world and met and shared great times with NUFC fans of all colours and creeds – however, I have observed that there is a certain naivety from those fans based abroad and that is simply because how things are reported in the media.

  • 244 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    Pieters having a good match. Leading 3-0 atm. Seems to have it in the bag imo.

  • 245 cupiddstunt // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    Knobhead @ # 179

    Interest free loans to cover the existing debt saving NUFC £6-7 mil a year. MA is personally losing £6-7 mil a year in lost interest, SD may well be getting some advertising one balances the other so I really do not think the advertising is free.

    The club may very well be showing transfer profits MA is not.

    What else do you want to have a slanted look at.

  • 246 geordiejamie89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    Well Arsenal look like title chasers next season, if they get rid of the deadwood and sign some decent players. Out of the teams that look like dropping the pace it has to be Spurs or Chelsea. Hopefully Liverpool will go for it against Everton and get the result.

  • 247 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    Magpies @241.. good fair-minded post. So the jury is still out for you regarding recruitment 😉
    There are other issues going on at the club however, that do need attention as well – yet there is stonewall silence from the powers that be.

  • 248 magpie6699 // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    This is our best season since 2006. We became also-rans with respect to Man U, Arsenal,, Chelski long before MA came on the scene. In fact we were fast becoming also-rans to the likes of Aston Villa and Stoke. Whether we can ever compete against the mad-money lot remains to be seen and will depend on how much FIFA care to support the Fair Play thingy.
    At least we seem to be on the up and I for one would not be unhappy hanging around the top 6 if we could win a cup or two!
    The main question for me is – who is fit to play tomorrow and can we beat Bolton. Sorry, that’s 2 questions!

  • 249 Beattie25 // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:36 PM


    I am not trying to say that nufc is important to the NE. Revenue wise it is massive to the entire area in terms of employment and business.

    But my question is what makes a Geordie who has supported the club for 50 years and lives not 2 minutes away from the ground more passionate than a supporter who lives in Mongolia and has never been to st James park? The answer is nothing!

    It is the heart if a fan that makes them not the locality. Football is truly a global game and long gone has the regional love affairs for local teams. We all support nufc for various reasons and my passion could be chartered and compared it would be as passionate as any supporter!

    I am a proud scottish/Irish immigrant living in Lancashire, I am from.a single parent family and my mother told me to support the team I loved and support them forever. I fell in love with nufc after a boring 0-0 draw I the fa cup back in 1988. I was 5 years old and I don’t know why I loved nufc, I just did. Err since then I have supported them through thick and thin, through heartache and joy, before and after Ashley and I will be damned if anyone would try and take any of it away from me because I don’t live in the north east!

    It is not any individuals club, it’s all of ours!

  • 250 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM don’t even know the difference between interest and profit @237.

  • 251 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    What other issues are u referring to? General communication and the name change?

  • 252 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    Beattie – all well and good but without the city and it’s residents behind the club 100% Newcastle simply is not United – and that is the fault of Llambias and Ashley. The accounting figures back that up as existing revenue streams are not being fully exploited and turnover is static because of lack of trust.

  • 253 MacToon // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    Football may well be global but NUFC is very much primarily a regional love affair and as I said before it doesn’t end there either, I love Newcastle and the North East and very proud of it.
    Saying that though, NUFC is not just for Geordies or locals etc. but It seems my love for my club is for different reasons to people who may never have been to SJP. I’m not saying it’s better/worse, just different.

  • 254 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:51 PM

    DannyO @ 250- at meetings I have attended at open forums – away ticketting allocation comes up regular, as has home stewarding, cheap season tickets/expensive tickets next to eachother. Namechange, obviously. Problems with direct debits. Some trivial – some big issues. Always the same result from club is “no comment”.
    Also much evidence of club trying to control and influence local media coverage – Chronicle on last legs with club, hence Del’s 7 page “olive branch” feature.

  • 255 Beattie25 // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:51 PM


    I am not stating that some fans aren’t naieve as I 100% agree with you and I am also not stating that Ashley is to be trusted as I for one think he has proven in the past to be untrustworthy.

    However I am saying that at this current time we are doing very well and all tw Ashley bashing in the world cannot escape that fact. Also the main focus of the Ashley attacks home in on the ‘selling our best players’ and ‘destroying our traditions’.

    I for one am glad that an outsider has taken over our club and is trying to evolve it. Too long local pride has gotten in the way of adapting to the modern game and who better to take is into the future than a Wiley wheeler dealer whose sole purpose is to take our club forward so he can make money.

    It’s better than having a north east based owner who wastes cash chasing a false ideology. Top 4 used to be the thing of dreams and whether it is liked or not mike Ashley has made it a possibility on a budget. We are the envy of every club in Britian at the minute it is shame that some of our fans are so divided that we cannot see this truth.

    And also if a new sponsorship deal came in in the summer and the stadium was changed to the ‘McDonald’s stadium’, we brought in 10 million a year and that got us the funds to retain Tiote, Ba, Benny etc… And meant we could add Hoilett, Douglas, Diame and more and it propelled us to the top 4 next year would you take it?

  • 256 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    Signings for me with or without Europe:


  • 257 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    PSV won their first trophy in 4 years, now get over here Pieters and help us win our first in 43 years…

  • 258 JAMSHA // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:55 PM


  • 259 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    @cupidstunt: My point is that you’re repeating an argument of repetition – literally. It’s an ongoing slapfight and it’s boring and tiring to read. We’ve all seen well known names and faces suddenly disappear from the blog simply because they’re sick and tired of the same old arguments.

    I’m not being selective in what I remember, in fact I’d like to think of myself as one of the people who has a very open mind and have gone on record as praising Ashley for some of his business (check out some of my articles if you feel like it). You also mention how you take the past and honestly, were any of us happy with Ashley when we were in the Championship? Were we happy with him last year? The general consensus was that he needed to get out of Newcastle. Love him or loathe him, he will always be remembered as the man who admitted in a court that he lied to his employee and the fan base and that is a mark that he will have to bare until the end of his days.

    And that’s the reason there’s such a public backlash when he makes a controversial decision – we might enjoy certain facets of how he runs the club but very few people actually trust him – and rightly so. Like I said earlier to MFH, it’s far too early to hail him as a hero and given his track record, I firmly believe he leans on the side of “villain” – of course that’s a very black and white view and I’m not taking into account the grey area surrounding that imaginary scale.

    He is trying to make amends but, again, it’ll be a long time (if ever) that he will win over the hearts and minds of the Toon fans and like I said before, I don’t think any of us are in a position to really make our minds up until the debts to him are paid off.

    All that said, though – better the devil you know.

    @MFH 241: I completely agree mate. Well said.

  • 260 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    Beattie – hypothetical question of course…but with £40m transfer trading profit in the bank and one of the richest men in Britain owning the club, the answer from me would be a NO!
    And Hoillet is overrated 😉

  • 261 Beattie25 // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:00 PM


    Without the support from the local populous of any club a team will fail.

    I’m sure the recession, rising unemployment and failing businesses accross Newcastle and the NE are as much to blame on dwindling supporter figures and the need for nufc to reduce ticket prices than the whole Ashley is mistrusted excuse.

    I for one am glad that some supporters have let their short sighted views get in the way of their privilege to attend games at st James park as it means there are more tickets for those who can only attend so often and cannot afford to commit to a season ticket! Their loss is someone else’s gain.

  • 262 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    Another thing about this whole “top 6” thing (“we’re in the top 6 on a shoestring!” etc.) – please lads, let’s not get carried away. This is only one season out of many, next season we mightn’t be anywhere near the top 6…

    …we’ll be in the top 3 😉

  • 263 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    Beattie – A think along those lines, yes its the historic name of our ground but providing we getting around £10million extra a year to go towards improving the team a dont see the problem, If we get it sponsored and that extra £10million per season could push us into Europe season after season which will make us a more attractive club to sponsor for bigger kit deals like Liverpool/Spurs/Utd/City/Arsenal/Chelsea which would mean even more money coming in… Anyways in the next couple of years a think Richard Bransen will be launching a full takeover anyways as soon as the club if totally up and running perfectly and challenging consistantly a can see Ashley selling up to him for a massive profit

  • 264 Beattie25 // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    Ok maybe Hoilett is over rated but you got my jist.

    You cannot blame Ashley for not investing his own riches into the club and potentially ruining his kids inheritance chasing a dream.

    I think we are a footballing experiment and one that is working at the minute. It may not last forever and soon I may join you on the anti Ashley bandwagon but for the moment I reserve judgement because he has won back my trust by not only getting us promoted again but by making intelligent footballing/business decisions and ensuring this season is the best in almost a decade. Will it continue in the summer? Your guess is as good as mine but I think we can all see that the management team is united, the dressing room is united, the club is united it’s just the fan base that is divided! We should all just reserve judgement for a few years until we see where we are heading and the.n either destroy the Ashley regime or revel in it!

  • 265 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    @GT89: Argh go on then, I’ll bite.

    When Arsenal moved to the Emirates they were regular challengers for the title, always in Europe and attracted sell out crowds on a regular basis – and they only got £2.8m p/y. (Can’t remember the exact article, looking for it now. I think it was in the Guardian though.)

    Now if they only got that, what chance have we got? Either way, as I recall that figure was for the collective stadium and sponsor rights. Given that we’ve signed a deal with Virgin Money that figure has probably dropped exponentially.

  • 266 Thump // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    Anyhow lads, been nice actually debating for a change. Need to get off here and do some graft – fun times. What was it the Lord did on the 7th day? haha

    @solano: Give me a message matey and we’ll sort that catch up out.

  • 267 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    Beattie…there were plans to extend the stadium to 60000+ and they had planning approval for it – not a peep from the club since on that front as season ticket commitment has wained under Ashley.
    Newcastle’s support has always remained a “recession busting” phenomenon and the people who have drifted away in my experience have tended to be in regular work but feel disillusioned by those in charge at the top. Feel free to use my season ticket place however, as I completely agree with significant space being left for “pay on the day” customers.

  • 268 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    TTFN Thump….and you were right to mention potential sponsorship figures. Llambias himself said shirt sponsorship and naming rights were possibly worth £10m combined – we get £8m off Branson (which paid for Cisse)- that only leaves £2m. For that you get a good honest pro like Williamson – surely not worth a namechange though?

  • 269 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    Alright Solano, good to see ya back mate and hope you are well.

    I know you have moved on from the point as it was made quite a while ago but I just wish to say something in defense of the OV campaign and the name changes around it.

    A few of us thought that a negative train of thought ran rampant through this blog. It wasn’t negativity about how the club was run or MA or the likes, instead it was negativity about Pardew’s tactics, by not playing HBA and certain results. Something that I found to be, quite simply, incredulous.

    So myself and a few other posters here, Ibizatoon and Cheick Norris, decided that we would adopt a more optimistic view on how our season has went. It was a concerted effort to be more optimistic and try and impress that view on those who were not of the same mindset.

    Ultimately we felt that a culture of name-calling and back biting existed on this blog and we also wanted to foster an idea of being tolerent of each other’s opinions and engaging open and frankly with each other. Considering that the OV thing came about during the “billy/ted/eric/planb” fiasco, we wanted to bring intelligent discussion back to the table.

    We are not defenders of MA or DL. I myself am an ardent Pardite. My allegiance is not to MA it is to NUFC and our leader Alan Pardew. I do happen to think that Ashleys is beginning to get things right with regards running the club but you happen to have a deeper knowledge of business that makes you think otherwise and I would be happy to listen to any points you wish to make to the contrary.

    The name change thing is only a joke and is not designed to be taken seriously, it does not make our posts any more valid, we are just having a bit of fun.

    We are not a new form of “blog police”, we don’t wish to silence anyone’s opinions, we don’t shout down anyone who disagrees with us, so the term “blog police” is offensive in its implication.

    You may chose to reply and engage or simply ignore my attempt to clarify what we were trying to do, but I feel that some clarification was necessary.

    Once more I just want to say that it has been a long time since you’ve been on and I hope you’re well. 😀

  • 270 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    Ah, well, i cant really give u any argumentations on #253 as i don’t and/or can’t attend those forum meetings, but it sounds like a hoot 😛
    However, on #266 i can.
    Yes, it’s highly likely that there’s a good mix between the ones hit by “recession” and those that do not trust the current board, i don’t doubt that.
    But do u not think that there are many things going well for the club now, and that we should continue to build on that, atleast leaving room for the possibility that the board might redeem themselfes over time?

    Obviously, as u say, there’s several issues to work out, but do u think they won’t be worked out at all? At the same time, extending the stadium to 60.000 when u’re not convinced, no matter the cause, that it will be filled on a regular basis is kind of shooting yourself in the foot.

  • 271 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    Surely the point is we have to get as much sponsorship money whatever way possible man utd are getting 40mill jus off Dhl for to sponsor the training gear

  • 272 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    Thing what pisses me off is the fans who think they hav a ryt to know how the club is being run, do you here any other owners having to explain every little thing they do at a club no n that’s the way it should be

  • 273 rknufc // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    im going to the match tomorrow and ill be in newcastle 4 a few days. does anyone know if its worth going to the training ground on wendesday

  • 274 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    Ruddy@268 – thankyou for your good wishes – I am recovering – and thanks for informing me on the OV stuff. I totally take your point on Pardew and as I have mentioned earlier, some of the anti-Pardew stuff was coming from the most ardent Ashley Apologists and they had the balls to call me a negger! Just goes to show there are always “shades of Grey” between the black and white.
    I did observe, however, what I percieved to be some OV “ganging up” on certain foreign based posters on occasion – maybe I was just mistaken.Whatever, I would just like to re-state my case that I am more than happy with the team’s success this season and am happy to discuss players and football issues in general(as we always did) – and continue to debate/discuss/argue the ownership/direction issus as and when they develop. 🙂

  • 275 rknufc // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    also does anyone know exactly where the training base is

  • 276 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    Rknufc I wouldn’t bother the players will probably b giving a week off after Bolton game

  • 277 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    @davy #271
    Very true, very, very, little comes out from businesses in general for obvious reasons. U don’t want others to steal ideas, trade secrets, etc etc.
    You can let people know your overall intentions, but how to achieve them is usually told in-house and not to the general public.
    If there are issues, these things should be sorted in a way that the club are made aware of the problems. But one usually doesn’t got out saying “we’ve sorted this and that, by doing this and that”.
    It should just show when it’s sorted.

  • 278 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:40 PM

    DannyO @269 – of course, extending the stadium is not on the agenda precisely because of the other issues mentioned and I’m not saying the club should plough ahead with those plans. My point was in another era , with the team doing so well,much more revenue could be generated with the city fully on board with the club.
    On your other point…I do think (obviously) that things have gone brilliantly this season on the pitch – Pardew has done fab – I just urge against complacency from above and have to question why – when the club had almost everyone back on board after a great start – did they choose to upset so many by a senseless name change? It is Del and Mike who seem to continuously shoot themselves in the foot!

  • 279 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    Well with regards the “ganging up” incident, I know what you are referring to. That was when myself and IndianMagpie had a “spat” of sorts 😛 We have a lot of sour history and I lost my rag with him, but sticking true to the OV model, I quickly apologised to him and we are moving forward, even if we disagree on nearly every issue relating to NUFC!

    There is a lot of murky issues with regards the top tier of the club and I do believe that the name change of the stadium is an issue that hurts fans that are located in the North East moreso than those located outside of the North East, perhaps I am making a too sweeping of a generalisation but that is how I perceive that issue.

    Anyway, my point being that all of us are never going to agree on every issue relating to how the club is being run, but one thing I think we should all agree on is that, on footballing terms, the club is moving forward in a really exciting way.

    (btw Solano, apparently the term “neggar” has been banned…some posters took exception to it 😛 )

  • 280 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Dannyo for me fans shud have nothing to complain about after the season were having n no matter what happens in the last 6 games we’ve been amazing n Europe will just b the icing on top

  • 281 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM

    Someone posted this article last night and I found it a very good read, quite a comprehensive review on where we are financially. Does not come down as “pro-Ashley” or “Anti-Ashley” it just lays down the figures and explains them in a concise manner. A really good read.

  • 282 geordiejamie89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

    Mike Ashley has paid Newcastle’s debt so that Newcastle aren’t paying millions in interest. He’s changed the name of the stadium, and hopefully that’s having a positive effect on his business. The better off financially Mike Ashley is, the better for the club. Also if another company offers a certain amount for naming rights, then Newcastle will benefit in transfer money. With Newcastle doing so well, there’s a chance a company might wish to come in with a decent figure.

  • 283 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:49 PM

    U know what, if the relegation hadn’t happened, i think we’d avoided the whole name change ordeal.
    I can understand the attempt to get the extra revenue, ofc.
    But i think if we reach Europe, and can stay there consistantly over the next 2-3 years, we’ll be getting other sponsors, and bigger deals at that. I don’t think too much of the Europa League prizes, cause we all know they’re peanuts.
    However, strong league positions and stable markability in Europe will help increase the revenue through other things than the sponsors for a name change.

    And i doubt there will be any sponsors for that tbh, as the official “we can get £10 mill a season for that” remark, the issue with the fans on the matter and the current argument with the city council, will put everyone off.

    As a result, once our revenue increase further through other areas, i think the name change will be reverted.

    That’s just a thought tho.

    But ye, there’s still long ways to go for DL and MA, we know it, they know it, the media knows it. But success on the pitch will probably heal allot of wounds for many.

  • 284 solano // Apr 8, 2012 at 7:51 PM

    Ruddy – yes that article is interesting as are other interpretations that are floating about.
    Gotta go for my physio now – good night You Princes of Percy Main, You Kings of Newcastle!

  • 285 martoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    Good evening gents and Happy Easter to you all.
    Some lively debate on here as usual and good to see Beattie back and in top form. Just a thought if SJP was renamed to the Tampax Arena would we have a bl**dy good team good at soaking up pressure 🙂

  • 286 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    Internet down so missed all the fun.

    Some good stuff on this thread and reasoned differences of opinion.
    PlanB, Ted,Carol,Bob,Alice did poison it as he/she is just a troll.

    Got to go in for a bionic hip soon so hope yer own procedure worked out well Solano

  • 287 Tommyy // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    A question for any techies out there… Is there a way I can watch the game tomorrow on my IPhone over 3G? or will it take too much data usage?
    Any help would be great! Cheers.

  • 288 Marty-Toon // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    Balotelli is a blooming idiot ….
    Great player but he’ll be sent packing now.
    Probably get an extra 3 games on top of what he gets from rd card today for the studs up challenge.
    I’d say he’s played his last for City now.
    Hope the bin dippers get their finger out gainst Everton
    We might need the help although Chelsea will have problems with all the games comin up.
    Terry is out and an injury to luiz or any other defender n they’re ruined.

  • 289 Marty-Toon // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Happy Easter everyone.
    They checked the tomb n he was gone.
    Pretty cool if ya ask me

  • 290 Marty-Toon // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:27 PM

    Who do you wanna see go down this year?
    For me I see wolves going down although I’d have liked em to stay up
    The 2 I wanna see go down is Blackburn and Qpr

  • 291 rich_toonfan // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    @tommy…way too much data usage watching the game, plus getting a stream working through 3g would be difficult and lag a lot

    would love to see wolves, QPR and Villa go down

  • 292 martoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    Marty-Toon @289 I think Wolves are doomed and I have never liked or rated Mark Hughes as a manager so I’d like to see QPR go down. The third team is tricky because I like Martinez and Owen Colyle especially the was he has handled himself recently. I also think Keane has done a decent job under enormous pressure and with poor owners. I’d quite like to see Villa get sucked in because I think they have been poor and I don’t rate McLeish.

  • 293 gaz 44 // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:47 PM

    we should sign ballotelli he’s so funny

  • 294 martoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:47 PM

    rich_toonfan great minds……………..
    Tommyy best to try and find a free Wifi you can hook on to e.g. a Macdonalds etc.

  • 295 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    tommmy I was just going to say what martoon said – you in the uk btw?

  • 296 rich_toonfan // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:57 PM


    I like Hughes as a manager and he did wonders with blackburn…..i just dont like QPR and how hughes thought he was better than fulham yet ended up at a worse side.

  • 297 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    MFH – Good banter on here today mate, for me, I think I insulted cupiddstunt when I took the mickey out of his name-calling duel with solano, and I ranted at an editor of another NUFC site, chugged out a few tirades….it’s been fun today! Just got back on and it’s quiet time though. 🙁

  • 298 Robby Bobson // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:04 PM

    Buzzing for tomorrow…

    We owe Bolton a good stuffing, to quote Pardew on MOTD once, they ‘raped’ us at their place last season and got Colo suspended, it was just an absolute disaster.

    4-0 will satisfy me, but i can see a very edgy 1-0.

  • 299 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    re-read of my last post sounds like a look-at-me look-at-me lol. I just meant I enjoyed this post it has been an epic and now it’s gone all shush which is a shame.

  • 300 djchrisanders // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    Any ideas for links for tomorrow’s game fellas?
    Don’t think it’s on sky,Espn,etc.

  • 301 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:07 PM

    Robby I’ve been saying we’re due to hand out a beating and I hope it’s tomorrow. Think Cisse will score 2 whatever the result though 🙂

  • 302 Robby Bobson // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    some places in europe get all prem games beemed to them with english commentary, theres always a few links up

  • 303 Offkey // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    djchrisanders – Its on fox sports (american) – so firstrow will have it as will many others……

  • 304 djchrisanders // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    Cheers Robby, I’ll have a sniff about tomorrow..

  • 305 Robby Bobson // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    tsunki…hoping Ba is the star of the show tomorrow though, really deserves a goal.

    All we have to do is stop Mark Davies’s jinking runs, then sign him up in the summer :D.

  • 306 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM

    djchrisanders – if I have to do the web thingy I choose, or Loads of links to choose from but check tomorrows matchday banter and there will definitely be recommendations and links to specific streams 😉

  • 307 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    Robby – yeah I am keeping an eye on some bargain ship-jumpers come the relegation window ha ha. Sure Pards is too 😉 Rooting for Demba to get his foot into one of those goals tomorrow – if you notice he’s only just missed out on goals in the last few games.

  • 308 Offkey // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    djchris – it was advertised loads as I was watching both games today, which were also on fox sports in the USA. You have the pleasure of listening to warren Barton at half time.

  • 309 djchrisanders // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    Thanks a lot Tsunki & Offkey- appreciate it..

  • 310 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    @ 307 – ah yes and that one 😉

  • 311 Cool Hand Luke // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    @ chrisanders the firstrow sports links all skip and are of poor quality in my experience. Download sopcast if you havent got it already and go to , just click on the sopcast link with the best signal strength, its like watching sky 😉

  • 312 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:23 PM

    Papiss got on the team of the round aswell as getting goal of the round on Sky.
    The lads on fire!

  • 313 gaz 44 // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:26 PM

    does anyone know if you can stream to android phones gutted i working gonna be first home game.i missed all year

  • 314 GeordieGesus // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    gaz 44, go sick.

  • 315 Beattie25 // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    Does anyone think tht we can catch Tottenham? I think if we can win the next 3 we definitely will.

    I just can’t see Chelsea getting as many points as us and I think Harry is too busy planning his team for Euro 2012.

    The result today (arsenal vs citeh) may be a blessing in disguise because I fully believe citeh are out of the title race and that they have a big game against man ure and then what?

    By that time, with 2 or 3 games left, we could be fighting for 4th and with the team mentality I think we can beat them!

    I was a defeatist after the Norwich game but the change in formation that we were crying out for has changed everything and I back to my positive state of mind and it’s here to stay! It is with this state of mind that in going to make my boldest prediction yet. Final 6 games unbeaten, win 4, draw 2, 14 points, 4th place and the most exciting summer on Tyneside since that little shit Owen signed!!!!


    Optimism Valley population 52000

  • 316 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:36 PM

    Sorry mate, can’t see it, i think we’ll have more than enough going for that 5th. However, it would be a great bonus if CL happened.
    I’m not holding my breath tho, i still think 5th will be tough.

  • 317 Beattie25 // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:40 PM

    I’m getting too excited I know. But all season I’ve misjudged our team and now in starting to believe!

  • 318 Marty-Toon // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:46 PM

    Screamer scored by Arteta today and Scholes
    Hope BA gets a few goals before seasons end as a few players passing him now

  • 319 mindshaft // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM

    spurs have the easiest run in so think they will get 4th, arse will prob get 3rd tho reckon we’ll get 5th and i’ll just miss out on 280 quid winnings 🙁

  • 320 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 9:59 PM

    Looking at the fixtures weve got the easiest of us and Chelsea but wether we take advantage of that is another story plus if we want to finish above them we really need to take something from the game when we play them at the Bridge

    1st – Man Utd
    2nd – Man City
    3rd – Arsenal
    4th – Tottenham
    5th – ToonToonPapissCisse
    6th – Chelsea

  • 321 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    Marty – Even Dempsey has passed him now, not slagging Dempsey mind he’s unreal, on fire this season

    Btw Messi scored his 60th club goal of the season last night some boy him like

  • 322 hotdog // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    Ive a feeling the crowd may need to shove us over the line tomorrow. Hows about starting chant of “UNITED ARE BACK, UNITED ARE BACK, HELLO HELLO” auld’un but a good’un!!

  • 323 djchrisanders // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    Cheers Coolhand 😉

  • 324 Marty-Toon // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    Messi is pretty good alright
    Think we can get Benny playing more and more like him but he will need to learn to pass at the right times as Messi does and get the ball back.
    He’s got the class but of course we don’t have as many players as comfortable on the ball as they have.
    Dempsey is brill this year and he hasn’t been playing up front all the time,he does get his heed on lots of corners/free kicks but is always lurking in the box for scraps.Quality eye for goal.
    Surely Cabaye should have at least 10 a season with his quality,he could learn from Scholes

  • 325 LewSpi // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    Haven’t posted in a while.

    Good to see you’re back to your positive self Beattie mate.

  • 326 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    We should also sing a long song and try to cheer bliddy Demba Ba up the miserable get haha

  • 327 Dannyo // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM

    Lawro has tipped us for a 2-0 win and his beloved Liverpool to draw 1-1 away against Blackburn
    Also, pigs now fly, hell has frozen over and Messi has joined nufc.

  • 328 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    Beattie of course we can catch spurs am with you on that why not they were 11pts clear of us not so long ago we now have it down to 3pts remember we don’t need them to lose jus draw a few n we keep winning n that gap is wiped out easily, I think we will get 5th but 4th is not out of the question yet n a win tomorrow n were back to within 2pts of arsenal

  • 329 Marty-Toon // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    We can get em over the line,Bolton are a team that are there for the taking but we also need to learn how to kill off a game.
    We often can go 1 up and the opposition start to play.
    We have been taking our chances of late so hope it stays that way.
    Bolton aren’t the same threat as they were last term.
    Good keeper but defense has been poor.

  • 330 davybtoon // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    Well havin watched fulham tear them apart yesterday am feeling really confident n we beat them fairly easy in the end down at the reebok

  • 331 hotdog // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    Lawro wants AP as Manager of the season also. Are my eyes deceiving me 🙂

  • 332 GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous) // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:20 PM


    What a turnaround!! 😀

    HE is now truly a believer!!!

  • 333 hotdog // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:22 PM

    Hope your right Marty – I can see Stoke getting a draw out of us so hope we bag 3 points tomorrow.

  • 334 GeordieToon89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    Howay to be fair, yes Rodgers has done class for Swansea but he’s also had basically the same squad to work with for 2 full seasons and implement the right game plan which was already there before he took over he just carried it on… Pardew has had to put up with losing our apparent best and star players and bringing in virtual know bodys and bringing them altogether and creating a TEAM, we were tipped to be fighting for survival and weve been fighting top 4-6 all season without fail.. Pardew has to 100% get manager of the year no doubt about it.. but the fact is we all know he wont get it.. whats the bets it will be either Fergie for closing a 13pt gap woopty doo.. or Rodgers

  • 335 Tommyy // Apr 8, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    Sorry for the late reply chaps.

    Tsunki – yes I’m in the UK.

    Unfortunately I’m at a family event all day which has no wi fi facilities 🙁 . I had a feeling the usage would be ridiculous. So frustrating as I was really hoping to see the match. If there was wi fi i’d take my laptop and use Sopcast.

  • 336 Tsunki // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM

    Tommy – mate 🙁 I feel your pain. looks like ESPN app is going to be your spirit guide.

    LewSpi good to see you’re still in touch yeah Beattie is a convert to Optimism though maybe not a resident of the much maligned and misunderstood Valley.

    The results today don’t make me more doubtful of our finish, it reinforces the uncertainty of it all imo. Anything can and will happen, but I know one thing – we haven’t seen any thing that suggests we can’t possibly reach the euro finish line.Arsenal look like iron, but remember the start to their season – they were dire. They can suddenly be that again. Citeh looked unstoppable. Er…now…er well…hmmm. Chelsea have always looked shaky and spurs can go from majestic to downright crap in the blink of an eye. And we have been very consistent – a steady good run, a steady mediocre run, and again a steady good run. We are probably the only team besides Man U that you could put your shirt on for a decent result in any given game. We will make europe I say 🙂

  • 337 LewSpi // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:45 PM


    Yeah, I’ve still been reading the articles, cos I think Ed writes and maintains a cracking blog. The comments and certain posters (the whole Billy, bob mackem malark) was irritating me, so I’ve just stayed clear of even reading the comments.

    Can’t wait for tomorrow though, had to give my ticket away for the last 2 home games, so juiced up for this one. Haven’t a clue on the line up though, has us down as having the most injured players (9) and that doesn’t even include marveaux or the potentially injured Cabaye. God knows what the midfield will be.

  • 338 geordiejamie89 // Apr 8, 2012 at 11:56 PM

    Right toon must pull one out the bag tomorrow. Judging by Bolton’s RB’s performance the other day, I thought I’d go for a Hatem Ben Arfa first goal scorer, amongst a couple other bets.

  • 339 stuart no9 // Apr 9, 2012 at 1:29 AM

    thanks AP for coming out and saying what us so called “neggers” have been saying all season, that in a way he will be happy if we dont qualify for europe coz we are not really ready. we have been saying that all season. ( and took the abuse for it) so hopefully now some people on here may undersand ,we were not making negative comments-we were only being realistic. thanks for those realistic comments alan, you have gone up in my estimation for being honest .It is not the end of the world if we dont qualify for europe this season (sorry for being negative)

  • 340 Kc-Toon // Apr 9, 2012 at 2:01 AM

    I would love to qualify for Europe..Aslong as we played a team of youth and bench warmers. It would be exciting to see how the team would cope

    Tavenier Streete Perch Taylor
    Obertan Vuckic Abeid Ferguson
    Sa ameobi Adam cambell

  • 341 RonVanDam // Apr 9, 2012 at 2:06 AM


  • 342 jimmyxavi // Apr 9, 2012 at 2:38 AM

  • 343 ilovetoon8788 // Apr 9, 2012 at 6:21 AM

    Cisse to score 2 again today.. I bet many won’t dare bet against that..

  • 344 jesperfuglsang // Apr 9, 2012 at 7:04 AM

    Any news on who is in and who is out?

    I am told it is not televised in Britain; does that mean it is going to be impossible to find a stream to watch it.

    I live abroad so maybe it will be televised here?

  • 345 Oleg G // Apr 9, 2012 at 7:17 AM

    I am in shock that a PL game with 6th place team doesn’t have almost any streams.

    There will be (as it looks now) 3 browsers links and one sopcast (not english). I hope that maybe some others will offer links as we come closer the the kick off.

    But Chelsea game for example got 8 sopcast links and 10 browser links.
    Spurs and Villa games also have 5-7 sopcasts. wtf?!?!

  • 346 Indian Magpie // Apr 9, 2012 at 7:20 AM

    iam cent percent sure that it will have links and in english 2, the game is live in India. 7.30 local, half an hour after i reach home from office.

  • 347 jesperfuglsang // Apr 9, 2012 at 7:30 AM

    Indian, do you celebrate easter in India or is it a Christian holliday…

    I know it is the crusifixtion of Jusus and all that but hollidays seems to loose its meanings there days 🙂

    For my kid it will probably be about the easter bunny 😉 lol

  • 348 Oleg G // Apr 9, 2012 at 7:34 AM

    Easter? In India? What is the connection?
    Maybe the Christian minorty, Right Indian?

    And I hope you are right. But it doesn’t look good right now with the links.

    jesperfuglsang // Apr 9, 2012 at 7:30 AM

    The crusifixtion of the easter bunny you say 🙂

  • 349 Indian Magpie // Apr 9, 2012 at 7:34 AM

    i am sitting in my office after 3 holidays 🙁

    very few ppl celebrate easter in india

  • 350 Indian Magpie // Apr 9, 2012 at 7:35 AM

    Right Oleg G

    The links will be there, i will share with u all close to KO

  • 351 Indian Magpie // Apr 9, 2012 at 7:37 AM

    i once went to a cathedral at easter in New Delhi, thought ill just share with u

  • 352 BigKirky // Apr 9, 2012 at 7:40 AM

    Today’s game won’t be easy but I’m sure we can get a win and if we’re really up for it, a good win.

    Hopefully Demba will get at least one and it would be great if Benny and Papisto get goals as well. More the merrier.

    I tweeted Ba yesterday that we have to get our goal difference up, so a hat-trick from each of them would do very nicely.

  • 353 BigKirky // Apr 9, 2012 at 7:51 AM

    Ben Arfa has done really well with his tracking back since he’s returned to the side and I’ve been noticing that he’s been using his body weight really well to really bang into players to keep them off him and of course he’s releasing the ball at better times as well.

    He’s been working very hard and it’s showing by his great performances and will continue to do so if he puts in the effort which he has been doing. He seems an intelligent guy and must realise it’ll only benefit him immensely and make him a far better player. Keep it up Benny!

    He looks perfect in that right side of the front three. It’s so similar to the old Chelsea set up of Drogba, flanked by Robben and Duff.

  • 354 redondo77 // Apr 9, 2012 at 8:41 AM

    This is how it’s going to be at the end of season:
    1. MU
    2. MC
    3. Arsenal
    4. NUFC
    5. Chelsea
    6. Spurs

    Simpson and Guthrie is going to stay, because they will not leave when they already achieved so much this season and they will have more playing time (especially Guthrie), unless crazy offer from some crazy rich club.
    Gosling will stay, because Pardew will give him chance.

    Parde has evolved into great manager due to conditions forced him to be more flexible and he has done well in man managing.

    Douglas, Bruno, Honda/Kagawa (I doubt we can afford or Dortmund will let Kagawa go), Butterfield, Amifilitano (whatever his name is), Matuidi (or any DM Carr likes)will join.
    Sammy, Tav, Ferguson, Vuckic, and probably Streete will have more 1st team game next season.
    A lot of players (not needed) exodus.

  • 355 jesperfuglsang // Apr 9, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    In Denmark religion doesnt play a big part any more. Most of us are not religious at all, but major parts of the protestant belief has been past down in generations and are now a part of the way we act, treat each others and our whole wealthfare system.

    Christmas, eatster and other major christian hollidays are just something we take for granted. They are something we have grown up with 🙂

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