Come On Liverpool – Beat Everton To Put Newcastle Into Europe


Newcastle fans will cheering on Liverpool in the FA Cup semi-final today, which begins in a few hours time.

Alan Pardew – European qualification will take Newcastle forward

That’s because a Liverpool win in that game will almost certainly mean that Newcastle will be in the Europa League for next season.

With Liverpool having already already qualified for the Europa League by winning the Carling Cup, Liverpool being in the final will mean that 6th position in the league will qualify as a Europa League qualifying position.

That’s because the other side in the FA Cup final – either Chelsea or Tottenham – will have most likely qualified for Europe by finishing in the top five in the league.

This is the scenario if Newcastle finish in 6th place,  and of course as we know there’s still a chance that Newcastle can finish even higher than that,  and 5th place is qualification for the Europa League, and 4th place is qualification for the Champions League.

At the moment Newcastle are a full 12 points clear of Everton, who are in 7th place in the league,  with only 15 points to play for.

This is what Alan Pardew has said about the situation previously:

“It would suit our European hopes if Liverpool won,” “Everton could get through to the final and I think the rule needs to be looked at because if we finish higher than them in the Premier League.”

“That has to be better than the runners-up in the FA Cup qualifying for the Europa League.” “If Everton win the FA Cup, I’d say, ‘Fair enough’.”

“There would be one side of me quite pleased if we don’t qualify for Europe, because it will mean we can attack next season without having the extra pressure of the Europa League.”

“Having said that though, the other side of me would welcome it because it would take the club forward, bond some of the players to the club, and it would be an achievement of sorts.”

“We could also perhaps add to the squad with the extra finance we’d get.”

What Alan is referring to there is the FA rule that says if the FA Cup winners have already qualified for the Champions League then  the FA Cup runners-up get into the Europa league – here is that specific proviso:

“In the event The FA Cup winners also qualify for the UEFA Champions League, The FA Cup runner-up will qualify for the UEFA Europa League, but in the place reserved for the lowest ranking Barclays Premier League representative”

And as we pointed out previously, it’s possible for a side relegated from the Premier League to represent England in the Europa League, as Birmingham did this season after winning the Carling Cup last season.

Only France and England give Europa League positions to their Cup winners, with all other countries basing it on where teams finish in the league table, which seems a better measure of how good a side is.

If Everton win today,  it’s still possible for Newcastle to qualify for Europe – by finishing 5th in the league table, which is the position we currently hold – 2 points above Chelsea.

We may or may not qualify for Europe today – but the lads still have to try to get as many points as possible in our last five games of the season.

After all, Champions League qualification is only one point away from us right now, because one more point puts us in 4th place above Tottenham.

So we’ll be cheering on Liverpool shortly – as a way of cheering on Newcastle.

Howay The Lads!!



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10 comments so far

  • calvinzolamakongo

    Apr 14, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #1

    So basically if we do qualify for the champs league we could play our strongest 11 in the competition every game and if we win it it wouldn’t matter where we finish in the league and we would get the same money and that lol long shot but jUst a thought

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  • Beardsleys Love Child

    Apr 14, 2012 at 8:59 AM

    Comment #2

    Come on you scouse twokers…please allow me to gloat on monday with my unwashed makem workmates…’if you make europe il give up on supporting sunderland forever’…

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  • joe

    Apr 14, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #3

    If we do qualify for the champions league, the added games of next season may mean that we do badly in the league and dont qualify for Europe altogether.

    The solution for this is really simple. Win the Champions League next season, and get in again the season after that! Too Easy! 😉

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  • ShanghaiMag

    Apr 14, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #4

    Screw Liverpool, I hope Everton win. We don’t need a pity spot in the Europa league, we’re going to be in top 5!

    My prediction is that if Spurs win tomorrow, then they will win FA cup, but finish 5th and we get CL. If Chelsea win, then a focussed Spurs come 4th and Newcastle come 5th.

    Go Spurs.

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  • Graeme

    Apr 14, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #5

    As we are in 5th place – the “Automatic Qualifying Spot” for the Europa League then a Liverpool win will be of more advantage to Chelski than us, surely??

    Is there any reason we cannot maintain our hold on 5th place or even improve it to finish 4th or, with a huge effort and a bit of luck, even 3rd??

    A bit more positivity on where we are aiming maybe lol

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  • 3110

    Apr 14, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #6

    If Everton win today then I don’t think thats the end of the possibility of 6th place getting us into the Europa League. The rule quoted only states that the FA Cup runners up get in the Europa League if the cup winners are in the Champions League. It doesn’t mention what will happen if the winners have already qualified for the Europa League by finishing 5th. There is a scenario where the FA Cup winners could be Chelsea (or Spuds) who also finish 5th in the PL. In that case the last qualifying spot should go to the 6th placed PL team.

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  • johnp

    Apr 14, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #7

    @6. i just registered to say just that! sadly we’ll still have to cheer on liverpool as europe will then be ours tonight.

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  • FloridaToon

    Apr 14, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #8

    I will be rooting for L-pool today for sure. IMO if we already know we are in the Europa it will only help us shoot for the Champions league.

    The team will be able to play more open without worrying about picking up points to finish fourth. I think this will help against Man C and Chelsea and may even push over the top to get that final champions league spot.

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  • Sav

    Apr 14, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #9

    I’m with Shanghai Mag on this one! Too much history. Stuff Liverpool (I hope Everton do just that) and we qualify by right, shoving Spurs and Chelsea out of the way for 4th place. And at least if they don’t beat the reds, I’ll be hoping one of the London teams do it. Kenny has ‘previous’ for taking apart the best side ever to grace St. James’ Park in my time and packing it with his senior cronies….and don’t get me started on the 4-3s.
    Sorry, Ed, but I’ll be wearing something blue.

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  • obatoyou

    Apr 14, 2012 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #10

    everton take the lead 🙁

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