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Magpies’ Relationship With Gateshead Bodes Well For The Future

10:40 am, Sunday, April 15th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 18 Comments

Newcastle and Gateshead FC are forging a close relationship which can only be a win-win for both clubs in the future.

Ian Bogie - Gateshead manager

Since Alan Pardew came to Newcastle, he has been keen to get the Newcastle youngsters out on loan,  and Gateshead has been a destination for a number of them.

They include James Tavernier and Jóan Edmundsson  last year, and now young Welsh Under-21 defender Paul Dummett is currently on loan there, and Jeff Henderson and Phil Airey have also played for the club situated just over the River Tyne from Newcastle.

There are a lot of advantages to Newcastle sending youngsters on loan to Gateshead, since the players don’t have to move out of Newcastle, and Newcastle club officials can easily watch the lads, and check on their progress.

That will help Newcastle but it should also help Gateshead too, as they get a number of top Newcastle youngsters playing for them.

Gateshead are currently 8th in the Football Conference with 70 points form their 43 games so far this season, and they are 4 points out of a play-off position with only three games to play.

The Heed won 1-0 yesterday at home to Forest Green Rovers, and who knows,  if they can win their last three games they could possibly qualify for a play-off position.

Ian Bogie is the Gateshead manager,  and he has talked today about how well young Dummett is doing for Gateshead:

“Paul’s done well, he’s come in to cover at left-back but he’s playing centre-back at this moment in time,” “He’s done a sterling job, and I can see him going far.”

“It’s always difficult to say that a young player is going to go from Gateshead to playing in the Premier League.”  “But in developing their game, you just have to look at James Tavernier.”

“He came here and did outstandingly well. He went to Carlisle United, to Sheffield Wednesday to MK Dons and now he’s back in the first-team picture at Newcastle.”  “So it’s been great progression for him.”

“He goes back and sends favorable vibes to the players and staff, so Newcastle know what we’re doing across here.”  “We’re well run, we do everything properly. We’re professional in everything from training to travelling.”

“So they get well looked after when they come here, and we like to think we’re helping with their football careers.”  “That link has been massive for us, and we’re forever grateful to Newcastle.”

“Over the last few years we’ve struck up a great relationship in terms of bringing over a few of their young players and giving them a good grounding.”  “This is what it’s all about in the lower reaches of football. The real game, as I say.”

“Alan Pardew’s been fantastic in that respect, because it was difficult in the past to get players.”  “But since Alan’s been there, and obviously John Carver’s got connections from having played for Gateshead.”

“And I grew up as a young apprentice under Peter Beardsley, who’s been great for us, they know what we’re all about here.”  “It’s tough and competitive, and Alan, John and Peter have been great about getting these lads across. Long may it continue.”

Gateshead are on their way back up the leagues, and it would be terrific if they can keep climbing  over the next few seasons, with a little help from some of Newcastle’s top youngsters.

Sounds good to us.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Gateshead News · Newcastle News · Newcastle Youth



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18 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tsunki // Apr 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    673 points? Wow! :)

  • 2 Tsunki // Apr 15, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Until they get into the same league as us ha ha

  • 3 thebionicMAG // Apr 15, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    Slightly off topic here but Ed I think you should do a piece on Mike Ashley to open up the doors of debate.
    I have slagged him off repeatedly for years now like many of us, BUT credit where credit is due. Yes he’s made mistakes, often making us look like idiots, but at the moment he has made us look a club that could take the team and manager of the season award.
    Not allowing us to be bullied into selling Carroll to Liverpool was the most amazing piece of business, and his refusal to pay inflated prices (unlike the Citehs, Chelseas, Liverpools) make us look far classie putting the whole high wages debate into perspective.
    Remember when we lost out on players like N’Zogbia and Gervinho?? We were all gutted and angry but look how they turned out to be…CRAP! Look at the players we got in and how well they have performed. Lets not hate for the sake of hate alone and give this fat cockney bastar… (oops sorry got stuck in my old ways there), lets give this guy the credit he deserves and even chant his name at the next home game. That will make him feel amazing and WANT to invest more…

  • 4 TOONTony89 // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    I would love to see Gateshead get into the football league, they could potentially be a great feeder team for Newcastle with the mutually beneficial relationship paying off for both teams. It would bring on our young players at a much faster rate and help Gateshead progress up the leagues, which would be very beneficial for us. I would even go as far to say that we should invest in the clubs continued development but at the very least continue to play regular pre season friendlies against to the club to bring in substantial line of revenue.

  • 5 AmericanMagpie // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    I did a Gateshead save in Football Manager. Got them to the Premier League :)

    HWTL

  • 6 achtoon // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    @jimmypage do you think the sheiks were man city sopporters. All of the rich owners are in it to make money in some way. Ashley wants to promote sports direct and the city owners are moving their countries reliance on oil unto things like tourism and real estate, hence using city to promote their air industry. Ashley isnt putting the fair play rules in place he is just making sure we are ahead of the game. and if you doubt the fair play rules will happen, eufa have just won a challenge at the european court so all clubs will have to be run how we are being run. I also doubt chelsea will be making any big signings this summer as they are well short of the new rules. If they dont get in the cl this year it could be the end of them.

  • 7 jimmymagpie // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Achtoon – the point I was making was that Mansour and Abramovich don’t want their investment back, and if fact Abramovich has put millions in trust to keep Chelsea going in case anything should happen to him. Ashley wants every brass farthing back! Read the Fair Play Rules properly – clubs just have to be seen to be reducing their debt in each of the next 5 years. Man City and Chelsea will spend huge amounts again this summer – just you wait.

  • 8 jimmymagpie // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Let’s all start living in the real world for a change, and face a few facts. 1: This club is in the biggest debt in its’ history, some £140m, and the fact that the debt is to the owner, makes it no less real.2: Ashley is not a NUFC football supporter, and views his ownership of the club differently to Mansour and Abramovich.3: We have to balance our books. That is the owner’s dictat.4: To finance summer signings, it is blo-dy obvious that a couple of our blue chip players will be sacrificed to pay for them. I don’t want to see our better players leave, because if they do, we will never progress from where we are now, in fact, we will go backwards.You have to add to your quality players to progress, not sell them in order to finance other arrivals, but that is the Ashley philosophy.Roy Hodgson has warned his own chairman against such a transfer policy, if West Brom aren’t to start slipping backwards. Pardew stated this week that Tim Krul alone had won us in the region of 10-15 points this season. Where do you find another keeper like that? I am extremely apprehensive about what might happen this summer, because Pardew has worked miracles this season, in what is admittedly a poor league, but there is a very thin dividing line between success and failure in this league, and if the likes of Krul and Cisse in particular were to leave, a top six finish next season would just be a pipe dream.A few of you are lauding Ashley for his ‘financial prudence’. Well, just remember that when the wheeling and dealing starts, and the offers start coming in for our better players – you can’t have it both ways!!

  • 9 davybtoon // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    but if the clubs debts arnt in line with ufea rules they will not be allowed to play in champions league
    and on ashly wanting his money back dont really care it is his money n hes entitled to it, its over 120mill we owe him n its all interest free now once were making profit id b happy to split the profit on transfers n paying back ashly

  • 10 davybtoon // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    fact is though jimmy if we sell players the money dosent go to ashly it goes to the club, why r some fans like u so unwilling to admit that ashlys model of running the club works n yes that does include selling a top player every now again

  • 11 kilcline // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Today i pray for serious injuries and suspensions to Spurs and Chelsea players.

  • 12 thebionicMAG // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Jimmymagpie
    Successful businessmen become so by sound investment. Pumping £140 million into a club and just saying: “Hey, what the hell, it’s only money” is not only an insult to the game but an insult to humanity in general.
    You think uber Billionaires spending money like it was water no matter how well their teams are doing is something to be proud of? Seriously I would hate Newcastle to become a joke club like that. Ashley shelved out a £140 million interest free loan to Newcastle, fair play to him for doing it and fair play if he wants it back.

  • 13 thebionicMAG // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    davybtoon
    I’m with you 100% on everything you’ve just posted.

  • 14 jimmymagpie // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Davy – the strict ‘within income rule’ doesn’t come in until 2017, they just have to reduce their debt until then, and can you really see UEFA banning all the top clubs if they didn’t adhere? UEFA would go out of existence, as they rely on TV money and sponsorship, and who would pay for a 2nd rate product? The top clubs would just breakaway and form their own European Super League, and attract all the money. This has even been discussed amongst the so-called Super14 for some time now. The top clubs hold all the power.

  • 15 thebionicMAG // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    I mean common people lets be honest about this. One of the reasons we are all SOOOO happy with our position is because we’ve done it honestly and on a shoe string budget, with great scouting and shrewd business deals. Would it really feel as sweet if we’d only achieved it if a billionaire had of came in and spent £300 million?
    Lets face it, if I devised the next big thing like Google, and sold it for £50 billion I could buy and eventually take a team like Gateshead into the Champions League no problem.

  • 16 jimmymagpie // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    Lads – I’m not saying I want my club to become anothe City or Chelsea, I’m just saying it as it is. The Ashley model has worked in this league for ONE season, and not without a lot of good fortune, and the outstanding contributions of 2 or 3 players, who are now being coveted by others.I speak as one who has seen the vast majority of games, home and away. The proof will be if players are sold to fund incomings, and the club can maintain it’s placing again next season – a very big ask. As all managers know, and some have said it publicly, there is a limit to the numberof rabbits you can keep pulling out of the hat. Personally, I would like us to keep all our better players, and just add a couple of quality signings each summer,WITHIN BUDGET, and get rid of the deadwood to make way for younger players.

  • 17 thebionicMAG // Apr 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Yeah Jimmy I agree with you.
    However I do not think Carr has been pulling rabbits out of the bag.

    We have proved several things like: You don’t need to spend stupid amounts of millions to have a Champions League chasing squad. Panic buying (Liverpool Carroll deal) is just not worth it. The importance of a sound scouting system etc…

    We need to keep our best players to progress…look at my earlier posts, however as Davytoon said occasionally you have to be prepared to let the odd top signing leave if ridiculous amounts of money are being offered. If those clubs are stupid enough to offer it (Chelsea , Liverpool anybody?), then we should be business savvy to accept it.

  • 18 rich_toonfan // Apr 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Jimmy….you clearly havent read the financial rules correctly, they have to break even over a 3 year period starting 2012-2015….if they dot do this they face fines and then bans from european competition.

    Some things are excluded from the finances such as developing youth facilities and supporting the local area with development, but transfers, wages, all of that have to be balanced by money in.

    I don’t think clubs will do it as I think UEFA will not ban teams like city, chelsea, man utd, barcelona etc as sponsors would pull out of the tournament and it would cost UEFA too much.

    They might punish lesser teams with a lesser fan base but will not punish the top european clubs.




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