Papiss Cisse – I Would Be Worried If Ba And Tiote Leave

Papiss Cise has made an instant impact at Newcastle United with 10 goals in just 9 games.

Papiss Cisse – at Swansea

And it says something about the Newcastle club, in terms of their scouting network and their willingness to do whatever it takes to settle in a a player – that Newcastle have been so rewarded by Cisse, since he came into the side  early February.

We have to remember that most players who arrive in January are busy settling in for the rest of that first season, as they come in half way through a season, and have no pre-season under their belt.

There are various bits of  transfer news going on right now, about some our top  players possibly leaving Newcastle this summer, and they include Demba Ba, Cheick Tiote and Tim Krul.

The two African players, Cheick and Demba Ba,  have helped helped Papiss to settle quickly on Tyneside, and he says he would be worried if they left in the summer:

“Yes, I would be worried if they Ba and Tiote left, because they have helped me a lot,”

“It may effect me because of that, but at the end of the day that’s football and if a big opportunity came along for them to move they can, but I would love for them to stay and play here longer, because we are doing very well together.”

“It’s down to Newcastle, they will do the right thing. At the end of the day I trust the club and they will do the right thing.”   “There’s no rivalry between me and Demba,” 

“He has scored more goals than me and he’s opened up many doors for me. We are playing how the manager has asked us to play, and sometimes that means Demba playing out wide and me playing more centrally as a striker.”

“Sometimes we switch round and he goes to attack meaning I have to defend. He’s really happy for me to score and I’m happy when he scores.” “He’s gone a few games without scoring, but he will do it again very soon.”

While Cisse has scored 10 goals in 9 games for Newcastle, Demba ba has scored only one in the same time-frame, so he’s going through a tough spell at the moment.

Since Papiss Cisse came on board Alan Pardew has elected to play in a 4-3-3 formation with Newcastle’s  top three scorers Ba (16) Cisse (10)  and Ben Arfa (6) playing as the front three.

And Newcastle now can break from defense at lightning speed,  as they showed in the West Brom game in particular,  when we were 3-0 up at the half.

With Newcastle almost certainly in Europe next season, hopefully we will be able to keep our top players and build on the squad we already have in place.

The expectation is that Newcastle will now bring in five players, and will at the same time unload some of the fringe players – like Alan Smith as one example.

But we hope we don’t start selling our best players, who have got us this far in the first place – that wouldn’t be good.

Papiss puts it best  by saying  it’s down to Newcastle to do the right thing.

We hope they do just that.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

21 comments so far

  • lucasnufc

    Apr 19, 2012 at 8:31 AM

    Comment #1

    I’d like to know how many games Tiote has actually played this season.. can’t go a game without picking up a knock it seems. If they go for big money we have to trust they’ll be replaced effectively!

  • Gash

    Apr 19, 2012 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #2

    I think we need to stay real. if a mega “Carroll-esque” bid comes in for one of our players then the Club will weigh it up and if they already have a replacement lined up will sell. Its business. However, if we were to make CL I believe we will kick on and improve the squad and find cover for the ACON players and beef up the squad in general, The Academy looks like it is being well revamped and we will eventually see younger players come through. I think we have a good base to build on next season ….whatever position we finish. Its been a great season and if the lads carry on playing like they have been we’ll be in Europe next season and I for one will look forward to a possible return to the likes of the San Siro….What a trip that was. And I never saw a mackem in Milan.
    3-0 to the lads on Saturday ( Ba-Cisse-Benny- 1 each)
    Keep the Faith – HWTL

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Apr 19, 2012 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #3

    If we get silly money for a couple of players then we have to sell.
    Buy lots of young talent and build for the future.
    A couple of quality defenders, two young strikers and the club will be stronger.

  • Paps

    Apr 19, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #4

    I hope ba and tiote show a bit of loyalty rather than just go to a big club and never play

  • Solaidback

    Apr 19, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #5

    hat Pardew need to do is sit the players who’re being linked to other clubs & tell them “Look at the other players who’ve left the Toon, how many of them are playing at better clubs? how many of them are doing any better than the Toon? yes you may double your wages but what are the chance of you doubling your wages & playing every game, as you do at the Toon? the only clubs who can really afford to pay the Toon are the club where you’ll spend games on the bench or in the reserves due to player competition, at least at the Toon, you get to play first team footy & you’re part of the family, so what do yo wanna do, play footy or just pick up a wage, if your answer is double your wage, please leave your ‘official transfer request’ at the door on your way out”… 😉 lol

  • obatoyou

    Apr 19, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #6

    if we keep ben arfa and cisse, that’ll be enough im sure. bring in messi and ronaldo and we have a real shot at the champions league.

  • Gash

    Apr 19, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #7

    @ solaidback
    Totally agree, but in reality I think after the season we have had Pards will not need to do anything like this. The team seem tight knit and supportive of each other. Let this continue and who knows where we could end up next season with a few additions. HWTL

  • Papiss_Myself

    Apr 19, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #8

    What we have to be mindful of is media hype. If there isn’t a real story to report on they tend to just make one up. For all we know Tiote and Ba could be thinking exactly whats being said above and actually want to stay at the club (Krul isn’t going anywhere), play regular football and take the toon in to Europe. The only problems we should be worried about are
    1. The greedy agents and
    2. who else we can bring in to bolster up and improve the squad. Lets not forget when Colo and STaylor were injured at the same time our defence crumbled due to lack of options.

  • Nick

    Apr 19, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #9

    Tiote off to Chelsea for £25m in the summer. If this is true as long as he is replaced with quality I would take the cash. Whilst Tiote is easily our best defensive midfielder he does get yellows easily and I think can be replaced.

  • wynsleap

    Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #10

    Solaidback @ 5 – I agree with what you are saying but if Ashley decides he wants to sell, Ashley will sell whether the player wants to go or not.
    If we get Champions League football, especially, there should be no need to sell any of our top players as the extra revenue in that competition (£30 mill+?) should be enough to cover any close season spending.
    We can’t go on selling top players as we can’t always be certain that the replacements will be successful. Currently they have been but it just takes one season of buying some “duds” to undo all the good work that has been done.
    Slow and steady progress whilst keeping our best performers, has to be the way forward.
    Question is – is Ashley prepared to take risks again?

  • ballerfan2

    Apr 19, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #11

    I still think some people see Ashley as out to make a fast buck from our players. The history is that the players who left last summer either wanted to go, or forced their exit with unreasonable demands (Nolan 5 years contract – really? West Ham are reaping that mistake now) or were being deliberately disruptive to a squad ethic. And don’t forget Ashley turned down £30m for Carroll. That fact alone suggests to me that we won’t be losing anyone unless a completely fantastical sum is offered – a sum which could fund another 3/4 Carr proteges which could project us to a new level yet again.

  • wynsleap

    Apr 19, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #12

    ballerfan2 – what you say about previous players leaving is probably right, but if the price is right Ashley WILL undoubtedly sell.
    You say that we could find another “3/4 Carr protegees” and yes we could, but, like I said earlier, if this time they didn’t turn out right (and let’s face it you never know with new signings) we’ll have lost a top player (or players) and the club becomes weaker.
    Why take that chance when you don’t need to? Keep the top quality we have and steadily add to it, is the plan. Or it should be.
    Unfortunately I suspect Tiote and Ba will be sacrificed in the close season for another “gambling shot”.
    Hope I’m wrong though.

  • StuW

    Apr 19, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #13

    A club always has potential replacements ready for players who are getting attention. Good defensive midfielders like Tiote are more common than you think, but it will take a club like Newcastle to take the risk on them.

    None of you had even heard of Tiote when he joined.

  • ballerfan2

    Apr 19, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #14

    Despite Ashley’s reputation as a gambler, I think as a business man his gambles are very well risk assessed and certainly his decisions so far both in business and NUFC have been pretty well spot on. I just don’t see him selling any of our star players without very very good reason and without being pretty sure that they can be replaced with quality that fits our requirements. As I said earlier, rejecting £30m somehow gives me confidence that whatever happens will be done with long term success firmly at the root of the decision. We have got to the point where we should be having more faith in Ashley.

  • oo aa demba ba

    Apr 19, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #15

    Carroll: Ashley already rejected several bids for him before he supposedly put in a transfer request.

    Enrique: Showed himself the door really, putting off a new contract and then tweeting slagging off Ashley etc.

    Nolan: Wanted a 5 year contract, scored goals yes but was definitely replacable (Cabaye same fee – which would you rather have??)

    Barton: Also wanted a longer contract, and his tweets were clearly part of a plan to get himself a better move but relieving himself of the blame.

    All in all the key players who have left have been replaced (except perhaps Enrique), Would we be sitting in 5th place with the squad we had last year? I very much doubt it.

    We need to have faith in Ashley, he has built up a company, now one of if not the biggest sports retailer in the country, so he is no mug. He must realise that if we sell more key players then it will be hard to maintain our current position in the seasons to come.

    Judge him at the end of the summer to save all this pessimism!! Were pretty much back in Europe and with some people on here you’d think we were in a relegation fight!!!!

  • philippealbert

    Apr 19, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #16

    Barcelona could have done with Perchinho last night

  • shamsoftabriz

    Apr 19, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #17

    If Carroll is worth 35 million, Tiote is worth 75 million. We can affford to part with Tiote if we secure Luk de Jong, but we cannot under any circumstances afford to part with Tiote. He is the best disruptor in the Premier League, maybe the world. The opponent’s advancement of the ball stops with him and starts moving in our direction time after time after time….

    If we sub de Jong in for BA, keep everyone else, shore up our defense with Pieters (although he looked terrible against England, he’s very talented) and another good couple of backs, we will be–on paper–better next year than we are now.

  • shamsoftabriz

    Apr 19, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #18

    oops….meant to say we can afford to part with BA if we secure De Jong….makes more sense that way. Need a coffee before I write here..

  • cornishman

    Apr 19, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #19

    oo aa demba ba

    Could,nt agree more.

  • lukes26

    Apr 19, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #20

    I think that Tiote is far more likely to go to Chelsea than for Ba to be leaving this summer (although both might leave).

    If you look at chelsea, they have Mikel and Raul Meireles who can play Defensive mid…neither are in the same class as Tiote.

    I think he leaves for around 25 million.

    However, we will use that money to sign at least 1 elite player and probably 4-5 prospective youths.

    So, no reason to to have a Andy Carroll styled ‘freak out’.

  • toon_asprilla2012

    Apr 19, 2012 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #21

    well said #17! he disrupts alot of the opponents attacks and play. he will be missed but im not sure if he wants to move, when ive seen the little interviews of him he seems happy and willing for the toon cause. . and when playing does seem happy and with Europe beckoning it makes it intersting because his fee will obviously rise because were in europe and also he has like 5yrs left on his contract. demba ba is worry thou I truely believe his gone but then who will bid for him in summer with regards to his apparant knee and also goals have dried up for him and also his touches in past games have been not to the demba standard we know, his head or heart seems elsewhere possibly?? and for 7m thats a cheap risk to take for the CL/spending owner clubs. . he truely hope he stays n signs a contract before end of season and we bring in another two strikers and then we will be in a secure position for europe up front. and the players would be on lengthy contracts ie cisse ben arfa 2 strikers that come in and possibly ba! simpson and guthrie is another MUST to sign new contracts, there team expereince is vital because unlike nolan and barton who also had experience n we replaced them with guthrie and simpson there young!


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