Finishing 4th But Out Of Champions League Is A Kick In The Teeth

Alan Pardew has come out today and has said he doesn’t want Chelsea to win the European Champions League.

Not being in Champions League is a kick in the teeth for 4th placed club

We’re sure the people at Bayern Munich would also agree with that, but for Alan Pardew the reason is because that would rule out the 4th placed team in England, which could well be Newcastle United.

And you have to agree that it’s a bit unfair to the 4th placed side, but that’s the new rules the FA and UEFA came up with,  about seven years ago.

That was after Liverpool won the  Champions League in 2005,  but hadn’t qualified for the next season,  because they finished 5th in the league – and Everton were 4th – as it so happens.

UEFA wanted to leave it the English FA to decide which four clubs England would nominate – but waiting for any decision out of the FA is like watching a tree grow – nothing much happens.

A case in point is who have they appointed as the new England manager to replace Fabio Capello?

And the FA stuck by the first four in the league and so UEFA decided to let five teams enter from England the next season,  but then came up with the new rules – but maybe the right decision was to have five teams entered in that case.

Alan Pardew is right to say it would be hard on the 4th placed team not to be entered into the Champions League,  if Chelsea do win the title on May 19th:

“We don’t want Chelsea to win the Champions League because we want that spot along with Tottenham and Arsenal.”

“It would be harsh if we finished fourth and then missed out. That would be a kick in the teeth.” “We are already in the Europa League, that is done.”

“We are there, so that is a major achievement for all of us. We now have this opportunity for the Champions League. But we have some tough games and sometimes that may be a better way to do it.”

“We have to beat some of the best teams – Wigan next, Chelsea, Man City and Everton.” “We had our best result of the season when we beat Man United  3-0 at home.”

“Sir Alex will be looking at our game against City, thinking it’s a tough one for them.”

Newcastle have already qualified for the Europa League, but we think there’s a good argument to be made to have the top four from England always enter the Champions League.

And if it so happens that a lower placed club actually wins the thing – then that means that particular League must be very strong, and therefore deserves to have five teams in it for the next season – to allow the Champions to defend their title.

That’s much more logical to us – and maybe Newcastle should make that argument to UEFA – if indeed the nightmare scenario happens, but Newcastle shouldn’t expect any help form the FA.

UEFA and the FA should change the rule  – especially if  it adversely affects Newcastle. 😀

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

13 comments so far

  • tomtoon7

    Apr 27, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #1

    INDIAN Magpie eat my shorts.HWTL

  • CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon)

    Apr 27, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #2

    I think if this does happen it’ll be the chelsea players getting the kick in the teeth next season from a certain Mr. Tiote

  • Oleg G

    Apr 27, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #3

    As we still have a chance of getting the 3rd place, I think the team should focus on that. I mean, we do have a chance with some luck in our games and for mistakes of Arsenal (can happen for sure).

    And if will be weird if Chelsea finish 6th (not 5th) and go to the CL. But to be honest, I think that there is no one that the winners of a competition should not get an automatic place next year. That is just wrong.

  • Vask

    Apr 27, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #4

    I don’t think it’d be a kick in the teeth, we’ll all know that we would’ve had it but look who we’d finish above if we do get 4th. I’d say that’s good enough for bragging rights, that coupled with beating Chelsea at the bridge we’ll know that we’re better than the Champions of Europe, that doesn’t sound like a kick in the teeth to me.


  • ToonDarnSarf

    Apr 27, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #5

    I said the same thing with the Everton/Liverpool debacle. The winner should always be in it and it’s unfair to have another English team losing out, especially if it’s Newcastle!

    If the 5th team went in the CL, some people say that’s unfair because it obviously means that another team somewhere is either excluded or has to play an extra qualifier. Some of the smaller teams have next to no chance to get into the group stages, so would probably rather have a money spinning televised match again a big Premier League team.

  • Tsunki

    Apr 27, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #6

    Thinking of the article title isn’t that what supporting the Toon is all about? NUFC should have a tagline like Sky – ‘ The home of the kick in the teeth’.

  • CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon)

    Apr 27, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #7

    Tsunki – It would certainly make teams think twice before they play us 🙂 – No smiley face with missing teeth unfortunately

  • Ian Magpie

    Apr 27, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #8

    Lads look at it this way……..Three years ago when we were 1-0 down at the Villa and they were running down the clock and taking the p!$$ would ypu have taken being denied a Champions League place then to the Winners???????? Weve come so far in such a short space of time. No matter what happens from now til the end of the season………..lets celebrate what weve got…………. UNITED ARE BACK!!!!! (see you on the ferry next season bonny lads yeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!)

  • CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon)

    Apr 27, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #9

    Ian Magpie…absolutely. CL deserved or not this season – I’ll be delighted with EL for next season. As you say, we’ve come back to where we belong and long may it continue

  • Graeme

    Apr 27, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #10

    We accept the situation gracefully as the rules have been in place for many years.

    Next season we give Chelski major stick, home and away and make sure we finish higher up the table to ensure it doesnt happen again!!

    ‘Mon the Tooooooon

  • Visten

    Apr 27, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #11

    Look at it this way. Newcastle finish 4th and Chelsea win CL no one gives a sht, Chelsea it is and that is the rule fair enough. Now lets say Man Utd had finished 4th with the same scenario mmmmm lets see…..

  • SmileyFace

    Apr 27, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #12


    I must admit – i’m glad

  • Swimsterr

    May 1, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #13

    I just got to say Newcastle SUCKS! Chelsea will win the UEFA and finish fourth. Their new manager is boss.


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