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We Couldn’t Match Wigan’s Intensity And Were In Big Trouble

6:22 pm, Saturday, April 28th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 140 Comments

Alan Pardew got it right after the game, when he said that Newcastle just couldn’t match Wigan’s intensity today, especially in the first half.

Wigan players celebrating Di Santo’s superb goal just before half time

Wigan started this game like the players’  lives depended on winning it,  and Newcastle were 2-0 down after just 15 minutes, after conceding only one goal in the last six games.

Victor Moses scored both goals and then Shaun Maloney and Victor Di Santo added more goals for Wigan before the break.

Alan Pardew tried to explain what happened, in his interview after the game:

“It was disappointing because the intensity of Wigan’s play was right at the top of what we have faced and we didn’t match that.”  “And if you don’t have the intensity to match the other side you’re in trouble.”

“And they got goals and that changed the face of the game.”  “Second half we showed discipline and we didn’t lose our heads which we could have done.”  “We kept our heads together and tried to get back in it and had two or three big chances.”

“A goal or maybe two goals would have changed the face and the atmosphere but we never changed it and it went Wigan’s way today.”  
“They were superb and we have to accept that we got beat today.”

“We are still in there although that will be a boost for Tottenham and Chelsea they still have to beat their opponents,  and as it showed today,  anything can happen in this league.”  

“Every time my team has been beaten we have reacted really strongly,  and we have three games to go.”  “We have been absolutely brilliant just of late,  and we have to see the season out now.”

Newcastle needed a goal in that second half to get back into the game,  and Papiss Cisse went close twice when he hit the post, and a goal then could have really helped Newcastle.

But we have to hope that the players will show more intensity at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday night – because today’s showing was simply not good enough – by a mile.

The lads have a chance to make up for this shocking show on Wednesday evening, and we hope they take it.

Comments welcome.



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140 responses so far ↓

  • 1 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 6:28 PM

    cabaye and tiote were closed down so quickly there wasnt a second for them to think….
    this is what teams will try and do against us close our midfield down as it is our strongest link.

  • 2 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    we just need to kick on now …. we have tripped but we shall get back up and give chelsea a fight…

  • 3 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    Home advantage gives you an advantage”

  • 4 Ben3arfa // Apr 28, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    they were hungry to win from the beginning , we werent .. end of story

  • 5 Dannyo // Apr 28, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    Hopefully the reality we faced today will bring us to a level where we know we have to challenge Chelsea in their home game.
    Not enough to ride with the waves now, need to be fully switched on on Wednesday.

  • 6 toonking // Apr 28, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    Home advantage gives you an advantage”

    i like your way of thinking there mine would be this
    use to the pressure so can handle the pressure

  • 7 lukes26 // Apr 28, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    Will Ba be dropped from the starting lineup?

    Based on his performance in the past two months, I think he should be.

    Style of play does not suit him. Hard to say exactly what his role is even. He’s not a winger. He just seems to wander around lost. He reminds me of that kid who you played with, as a boy, who just stood in front of goal and waited for the ball to drop to him.

    His work rate is shocking.

    He tried passing the ball once in the second half and it just slowly rolled toward a Wigan defender…Ba just stood there watching, seemingly confused.

  • 8 mailos // Apr 28, 2012 at 6:51 PM

    Watch online on http://www.online-sport.tv

  • 9 Novocastrian66 // Apr 28, 2012 at 6:51 PM

    That was pathetic today. There is no point and saying drop this player and that player. With the exception of Collicini & perhaps Cabaye, they were rubbish. Too complacent in my opinion. This season has been fantastic overall however there has been too many car crashes; Norwich, Spurs, Fulham and today. This is were we can improve and hopefully have an even better season next

  • 10 JDdubai // Apr 28, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    Every team is going to attack us down the flanks, especially down our left side. We got totally ripped apart today, there was no tracking back from Ba especially although all over the park we were poor.

    Iv said it for the last few weeks, Ba is either a centre forward or nothing. Doesnt contribute enough on the left, not creative enough/quick enough and doesnt work back to cover. Also we have been swapping him and Cisse, only reason is to keep Ba happy as Cisse shouldnt move from the top position. When you change what is best for the team just to keep 1 player happy, it isnt going to be good for the team.

    He is a top centre forward but it should be either him or Cisse each match with someone creative who works hard on either side to give us balance and the ability to close up if needed.

    It seems that Pardew is trying to fit him in to keep him happy whereas the better thing for the team is to replace him on the left for either Fergie or someone like that, next season we cant be starting with him on the left wing, need a Hoilett type player playing there.

    Another bad day at the office, like spurs or fulham 2nd half but overall this season has been mint so just win on wednesday and all will be forgotten!

  • 11 Burni // Apr 28, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    Novocastrain…..

    Mate you were clearly watching a different game. Ur post has actually filled me with rage. Our team played very well today apart from 4 silly mistakes. We were NOT pathetic at all, do pathetic teams hit the post three times? Cut out loads of opportunities? Jesus Christ. The season we have had has been fantastic we had a bad day today I admit, but pathetic? Give ur heed a shake man u tool

  • 12 Cool Hand Luke // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    Im sorry Pardew but it was nothing to do with intensity, more the formation as our back THREE were all over the place! and nothing was done about it until half time. why fix a system that isnt broken? we looked way better in the second half when back at 4-3-3

  • 13 Tommyy // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    We were decent going forward but misplaced passes and then them breaking on us, we just couldn’t deal with it. Poor defending positionaly.
    These things happen, I’ll be annoyed if we defend as badly or don’t pick it up against Chelsea, as we will have thrown away the CL, but until then I don’t see why we should get too down about it.

  • 14 Wor Shearer // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:10 PM

    @Burni

    Yes, pathetic teams hit the bar the whole time and can’t actually convert….e.g. Liverpool

  • 15 Wor Shearer // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    …having said that, Suarez just scored from the halfway line…..bollox

  • 16 toonking // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    this game is no where near as bad a loss of points as the game we had against wolves loosing a two goal lead is what i call stupid not loosing too a team that has done very well in the last month to teams like arsenal manure and chelsea

  • 17 nden85 // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    I actually agree with Burni, I didn’t think we were so bad, we made as many chances as them, but they took all of theirs and we didn’t take any of ours. Even though the result was obviously really poor, I actually really enjoyed the second half, thought HBA was absolutely amazing at times.

  • 18 Big Pappa Cisse // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    If we continue to use 4-3-3 then we need to bring in someone that is pacey and has a low center of gravity that can play in the left wing forward position, Ba is no slouch but its just not workin for him lately.

    ——————————-Krul———————————

    –Santon———Taylor———-(c)Collocini———–?–

    ——————-Diame—————-Tiote——————–

    —————————–Cabaye——————————-

    ——-HBA—————-Cisse——————Moses——

    If we mannage to keep hold of Ba then he will just have to be rotated with Cisse

  • 19 GeordieGesus // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    Reading between the lines…

    … Ba will be given an extended contract this summer, then sold to Liverpool.

  • 20 fungus44 // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    the whole team had a bad day not just any one player ,give the moaning a rest we still in Europe cl a bit to far to soon i think

  • 21 Yorkgeordie // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    Ben Arfa did nothing to help the defence today. In fact it was so obvious I thought he was having a rebellion, that’s why he was taken off. However Williamson is unbelievable, he has a couple of reasonable games and then plays like he is having a hangover. seems to me he has been to blame for all our heavy defeats.

  • 22 Burni // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    Wor shearer,

    Fair point, but we were not pathetic today. Novos comment is typical of a deluded toon fan. We have won a few, when we win we are shit. We weren’t today, we were good, unfortunately Wigan were better.

  • 23 toonking // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    a simple way i put this ba cisse chaos is them two in a team is simular too a team that had two darren bents or torres

  • 24 CAToon // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    Pardew got it right when he said intensity cost us the game. The difference between top-of-the-table and mid-table clubs is the ability to play at a high level consistently. When a team is facing relegation, there is a real urgency. Wigan played like a team fighting for their life. NUFC did not lack talent today, just desire.

  • 25 Burni // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    York…. What do you mean he had a rebellion? He was brilliant today…. One of the only players to give his all. I was surprised he was taken off

  • 26 t00ntime // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    In the second half we looked better when HBA finally started to make runs. We wern’t good enough today though and there goals were well made (and badly defended by us). However cisse did show a quiality, in a game where everbody played bad he still almost got 2 goals and was unlucky not too! HBA just needs to learn to shoot and he could of had 2, the fact that we played so bad yet still made 4 great chances speaks volumes. But I hope this is helps us realise we arent THE BEST and we can now concentrate on what matters, chelsea on wednesday! I think if we start moving off the ball again (like we did before wigan) we can still beat chelsea.

    I think ba had his worst game for us today… He looked awful. we need to get them team back down to earth and start creating more chances again.I think the only positive was the cahances we created (from 55min till 65) and for the rest we were awful!

  • 27 t00ntime // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    HBA needs to learn to shoot with his right*

  • 28 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    Norwich away
    Spuds away
    Fulham away
    Wigan away

    Four dreadful results where we had one half in total confusion and got dumped. Over a season that ain’t bad – but why did we collapse big time on four occasions – all away from home conceding 18 goals into the bargain. Any ideas ?

  • 29 xmindcrimex // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Clearly HBA was taken off because the game was already done and dusted. No need to risk him the last 20min. He needs to be fit for Chelsea.

  • 30 Wor Shearer // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    How’s this for a perfect first ever senior start!

    17yr old Joel Pohjanpalo:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibHRquIsXkg

  • 31 Indian Magpie // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:30 PM

    Jonas was poor 2day

  • 32 Tiki_Taka // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:30 PM

    I felt that we struggled to cope with Wigan’s wingbacks. It is very unusual in today’s game to face 3-4-3.

    When the ball went wide our back 4 became narrow because the wide players in Wigan’s front 3 tucked in. Nobody then knew who would pick up the wingbacks as usual our wide players in the front 3 will pick up the opposition fullbacks.

    By the time we changed it, (Simpson, Colo and Williamson at CBs with Jonas & Santon as wingbacks) to match up with Wigan, we were already 2-0 down.

    Tactically we suffered today because we faced an unusual formation. You can train all week to face opposition but until you are thrust into the game with that tactical problem, you never know how it will pan out.

    Second half we managed to get to grips with their movement and our spatial awareness was much better. If only the woodwork hadn’t denied us we could have had 3 goals.

    We will still finish in a good position and we will be in Europe next season. This season will give us the confidence that we can be in amongst it with the big boys. That is vital for next season’s mindset.

    Today was a case of a good coach outsmarting another good coach. Wigan looked good and we couldn’t get to grips with their system. By the time did, it was effectively a mountain to climb.

  • 33 davis_toons // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    Some teams maybe below us but are they bad teams? No, they aren’t.
    We are still a building squad, even if we finishes 3rd. Can we maintain this position and go on n challenge for the trophies? No, we can’t.

    We still need to build up the 1st team and back players on defends, midfield and maybe even attack position. ( who knows who will leave, BA or etc) we never know.

    We really needed a good CD; RB who can join in give our midfield a break sometimes. We just can’t always ask our midfielder to come down and defends deep. The defense goto do their job. And the only way is to get a good one, but Steven Taylor is not forgotten. He got to get less injury like vickic.

  • 34 Tooooon // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    This result is a blessing in disguise, takes the pressure of us, so our players will go into their remaining games just going for it, without nerves, without great anticipation. BELIEVE, TRUST, HAVE FAITH MY GEORDIE BROTHERS FOR WE WILL BE BASKING IN THE GREAT CITIES OF EUROPE NEXT SEASON; HINDER NOT AS MILAN WAITS!

  • 35 Big Pappa Cisse // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    @ MFH

    Norwich – We had a makeshift back four that had never played together and were dominated in the air

    Tottenham- Spurs were on fire at the time and pardew played 4-4-2 which was to attack minded away from home

    Fulham- Bossed first half, got to complacent and threw it away

    Wigan- Pardew changed tactics and it cost us, we showed against WBA how well we can counter attack away from home

  • 36 davis_toons // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    Got to mention…There’s one good forward pass upfront frm Simpson to xx today. We needed that more often. That’s the kindof pass that can change def into att. And cools alotof pressures on the team.

  • 37 toonking // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    why do people still call the norwich result a terrible one ?
    no team with full backs used as centre backs is expected to get a result if the opposition has got height.
    totenham fulham and wolves are the most dissapointing results

  • 38 Wor Shearer // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    Why not let Ba play up front against Chelsea? We know he can score, so let him try….he might even smile a bit.

  • 39 davis_toons // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    …maybe now we knw why senegal coach dnt play both BA n Cisse together or often.

    Only 442 can we play both BA n Cisse. Just put Benny further up on the right..

  • 40 Wor Shearer // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    @toonking

    I’m still pretty pissed at that last second Vermaelen goal….rrrrrr

  • 41 soundoid // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:44 PM

    ?’Wenger…. leave them kids alone!’

    ?http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/7713154/Wenger-urges-action-on-chants

  • 42 Dannyo // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:45 PM

    By all means, today was a shocking result. But lads, were already in Europe and theres 2-4 matches yet to be played, and everything is still possible concerning CL.
    Lets forget this and bounce back at Chelsea in a way they won’t forget.

  • 43 toonking // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:49 PM

    @soundoid
    wenger is just a spoilt little brat who never accepts defeat look at wigan ferger give wigan praise yet wenger could not accept a poor performance and thought he should have won his game

  • 44 soundoid // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:56 PM

    @toonking

    I just love the way when you read that article you can hear his proper grumpy voice… Pulis at the end is really funny.

    Cheered me up no end.

  • 45 davis_toons // Apr 28, 2012 at 7:58 PM

    Yes, we lack the hunger to go for 3rd place as well. They just say try. But it’s ok worst off we are still in UEFA of course best would be CL.

  • 46 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    Mike Williamson and Danny Simpson are going to cost us playing Champions League Football next season. It is evident that they are our weak links. If we would’ve signed Cissokho and a centre back in january, we’d probably be in third place now. We need to get at least 7 points from our remaining 3 games.

  • 47 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    They were great we were poor, move on.

    Still won 6 games out of 7. And we still have Marveaux to come in.

    A quality CB, FB and CM/Winger and a decent young striker and we’ll look a hell of a lot stronger.

    Douglas, Pieters and Hoilett would be a good start as well as this amalfitano.

  • 48 davis_toons // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:03 PM

    Yes, at last second Vermaelen goal…5mins was added. Shldnt be that much as we really dnt take too much off our sweet time I that match. Just for wenger sick. Really didn’t knw where it cme frm.

  • 49 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:04 PM

    Simpson and Willo werent’ the only poor players today. Collo made a poor clearance, and the midfield got overrun plenty of times. We do need to strengthen in defence but lets not bypass the fact that this was a poor TEAM performance.

  • 50 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:07 PM

    I’d only sign Douglas on a free. Mbiwa, Vertonghen and Alderweild are better players. Pieters looks like a liability (too slow and dozy). Marveaux is a great player and will cement his place in the first team for next season. Yes, I would sign Hoilett on a free. I would also sign Diame(free), Moses and Steven Fletcher on the cheap.

  • 51 davis_toons // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    Time to pick some good nice player frm the reglated club soon. (Kelvin Prince Poteng, BA was a former example)

  • 52 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    TBH got a lot of respect for both Martinez and Coyle and hope they both stay up. Better lose to Wigan than Chelski and we’ll be fired up for that game now. Gooners showed there are no easy games in the run in, not just us.
    Spuds and Chelski will both drop points too.

    Two wins and a draw would be okay. Is 70 pts too much to hope for ?

  • 53 JDdubai // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    Either get Hoilett or Moses in the summer to play wide left, Ba and Cisse to rotate especially with the extra euro games, Jonas position needs looking at as now he is playing as a holding midfielder am sure there are better players to have in there next to , if we could get another ball player like Cabaye in there it would be good.

    Then defence as we know, Santon to RB, either Yanga-Mbiwa or Douglas in and a new LB.

    I reckon everyone will write us off 4th place now so hopefully the pressure will be off on Wednesday. Shola injury time header for 4-3 again would be good :)

  • 54 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Steven Fletcher is a good young player who has the ability to play at the highest level. We need 3 high profile additions at left-back, centre back and centre midfield. Vertonghen, Cissokho and Marvin Martin would be great. Man United have had a poor season, yet they are going to win the title. I feel that we can compete with them next season. In my opinion, I feel that Chelsea have had the best of seasons providing they win the F.A Cup, Champions League and finish in the top 4. However, I hope that we can finish at least 4th and Chelsea lose the final. We did well in the second half today and could’ve scored 4/5 times.

  • 55 bollance // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Hands up. Wigan were simply brilliant today. Their passing was top draw. We could not live with them first half.

    If we had lost 1-0 today then it would have been the same result, a loss.

  • 56 Troleibusiukas_LTU // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:20 PM

    We were better in the second half, this result is not a big deal, we are still fighting for CL, and we will win against Chealsea, and home game against City might turn in all the plausible ways, it could end 0-0, if we score first we even could win 3-1 or more, but we could also be beaten if we lack the intensity as wigan game showed.. i hope for the best, team need to relax – we are already in Europe baby, let’s make it CL :P

  • 57 Beattie25 // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    This season is still the best season I’ve had in a decade but whilst I know I shouldn’t but I can’t help feeling this season is a missed opportunity.

    We could’ve, maybe should’ve, finished 3rd this season.

    Strengthen in the summer and we can push again next year, fail to do so and we may very well struggle.

    We have the core of a team but we need to upgrade because we’ve been found out too many times this season and any fan with half a brain cell can point out where our fragility lies.

    Not only do we need to add strength of depth but upgrade our back up players.

    I think we need to sell Simmo for example. Yes he is decent but I would ask any fan if they would not take 5 Million for him if it was offered? Decent yes but needs to be upgraded.

    Williamson is the same, Best as well.

    I’m not bothered now about May, bring on the summer to truly show us the direction we are heading in.

  • 58 Beattie25 // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    This season is still the best season I’ve had in a decade but whilst I know I shouldn’t but I can’t help feeling this season is a missed opportunity.

    We could’ve, maybe should’ve, finished 3rd this season.

    Strengthen in the summer and we can push again next year, fail to do so and we may very well struggle.

    We have the core of a team but we need to upgrade because we’ve been found out too many times this season and any fan with half a brain cell can point out where our fragility lies.

    Not only do we need to add strength of depth but upgrade our back up players.

    I thin

  • 59 Wor Shearer // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    Unfortunately, even with our good run of wins, not signing a CB over the winter might cost us 4th.

    But the important word is ‘might’! :-)

  • 60 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:23 PM

    http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/golazo-luis-suarez-3-liverpool-v-norwich/
    DAMN

  • 61 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    Beattie OV

    Glad to see you back in positive mode :)
    Agree – we def need a stronger defence and backup. Though both Williamson and Simmo can perform really well most of the time at EPL level they do lack that consistency to keep their edge and can crash and burn.
    Even Colo fades occasionally, but usually less seriously.
    I don’t think the 3-4-3 was responsible for the crash – as AP acknowledge – Martinez got them real hungry and any team fighting for survival with decent management should escape relegation…. and that’s going to be hard for Villa fans to take :-)

  • 62 Wor Shearer // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    Let’s hope the pattern repeats itself.

    Win – long break – heavy defeat – epic revival!

  • 63 woolerbill // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    So let not talk about third place, not even fourth or fifth. We rode our luck and it’s over

  • 64 toonking // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    well i guess everyone has calmed down now.
    this was bound to happen in one of the last 4 fixtures we had lets just hope that it doesn’t copy how things went after that defeat to man city.
    as post 55 said now that we have lost to wigan the so called experts and pundits will think we are not in a battle for top 4 so therefore our team has not got the pressure we had today. the last 3 i can see us win if this happens
    chelsea if they are too focused on the two finals ahead and also have 1 less day’s rest
    city season could already be finished for them if they loose to manure plus we at home
    everton well they may be already enough points ahead of liverpool so the players might be relaxed when they play us so they can get called up for the international games

  • 65 t00ntime // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:54 PM

    lol ur comlpaing about simmo and williamson, when colo was too far upfield 90% of the time from the first goal onwards (and probaly shud of kicked it out for a corner instead of back in to the box (2 or 3rd goal)

    santon let them through his side a few times today to… and if that salmon guy wasnt so selfish we wud of lost 5-0 cause only colo was back to defend (the rest of the defense had dissappeard)

    today wasnt about mistakes from williamson and simmo it was about our whole back 4 having a bad game (colo had an alright 2nd half) and our midfield having a bad passing game (from the 1st goal onwards) and Ba having the worst game of his nufc carreer, ben arfa and cisse were bad first half and good 2nd half(specially when we used ben arfa’s skill… why didnt we do that earlier, wigan dont have great defenders, ben arfa could of destroyed them from the first min)

    But to say we wont finish 4th cause simmo and williamson arent good enough is exactly why people say we put to much pressaure on the players and why our expectations will never be fulfilled… u cant expect MA to buy the best team in the world in january because we were in the top 5 -_- our expectation was top 10 our achievement is top 6, be happy, we are building a team and need players like simmo and williamson who can do a job when asked too!

    I finally understand why some scousers call us the jamie carragher of fans …

  • 66 Beattie25 // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    You can see which players are not good enough when you capitulate so this defeat was a blessing as hopefully it made pardiolas mind up on which players he wants to retain and who to get rid off.

    When a great team has an off day they can get beat by the odd goal when a decent team has an off day they can get smashed.

    We are a decent team with great players but when we have an off day our weak players become transparent in their lack of ability.

    We really have carried players this season and today the burden became too heavy. I am optimistic that we can in the summer Become a major force in the PL again.

    I am worried that we may level out and fail to invest but I am being overly dramatic aren’t I?… Aren’t I?

  • 67 t00ntime // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    @woolerbill are u by any chance bill/bob or are u just some strange guy who thinks newcastle have been lucky all season and still havent played a decent team, o and that our bubble will burst and we will drop down into a relegation dog fight-_-

  • 68 Wor Shearer // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    6 wins in a row was a massive achievement. Now, let’s try and get just half that through to the end of the season ;-)

  • 69 soundoid // Apr 28, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    Could have gone 20 points clear of Sunderland today…sheesh:0)

    We are still having a great season good luck to wigan putting our winning run to an end and in some style.

    Best tonic is to beat Chelsea…. a draw would be good.

  • 70 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:03 PM

    beat chelsea then wigan was nothing more than a bad smell that has passed us by ( bad pun i know).

  • 71 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    so if every one’s feeling down let me entertain u with my tiote banter!!!

    Albert Einstein invented pi after Cheik tiote gave him a concusion and he started blabbering random numbers. That’s why it never ends.

  • 72 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:06 PM

    cheik tiote has a grizzly bear carpet in his room. The bear isn’t dead it is just afriad to move.

  • 73 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:07 PM

    was that an earthquake? no just tiote’s left foot hit the ground

  • 74 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    Fear of spiders is aracnaphobia, fear of tight spaces is chlaustraphobia, fear of Cheik tiote is called Logic

  • 75 steve // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    Evening all,

    What a kick in the bollocks that was, didn’t see that coming one bit.

    Hate to be a ‘neg’ or whatever the term is these days but I would say that is champions league out the window. Obviously it is still possible but I felt we had to win today.

    Wednesday is our cup final we need to bounce back in style, 3 points and we can put this nightmare behind us…

  • 76 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:09 PM

    Cheik tiote uses a shark cage when swimming in certain waters. The sharks feel safer inside it while he’s exploring the sea-bottom.

  • 77 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    Cheik tiote installed his own home security system. It’s called cheik tiote

  • 78 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:11 PM

    All good things come to an end, except for Cheik tiote; he just lives on and keeps tackling

  • 79 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    Once the cop pulled over Cheik tiote…the cop was lucky to leave with a warning.

  • 80 ToonDownSouth // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    Tottenham may not win another game all season, judging by their form. So I’d say it’s a little premature to be saying that CL dreams are over.

    We’re still 4th, after all.

  • 81 Big Pappa Cisse // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    The one posetive thing we can take out of these heavy defeats is that maybe Ashley will wonder why we concede so many goals when we lose, he might free up some extra cash. IMO Simpson and Williamson are back up defenders at best

  • 82 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    cheik tiote and Superman once fought each other on a bet. The loser had to start wearing his underwear on the outside of his pants.

  • 83 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    Cheik tiote doesn’t flush the toilet, he scares the sh*t out of it

  • 84 Big Pappa Cisse // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    TDS

    After today you should know form has nothing to do with the way some premier league results go, the biggest Wigan fan in the world would not have predicted them to win 4-0 today

  • 85 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    Some teams they might test him
    most teams they just wi’not
    Tiote kicks 11 arses
    every ninety minutes

  • 86 ToonDownSouth // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    Just like no one is predicting us to beat Chelsea or City….

  • 87 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    the groundsman at SJP does’nt have to cut the grass, cheik tiote dares it to grow

  • 88 Sheikh MagToon // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    Williamson was a back up defender until STaylor got injured. However, we could only buy 1 player and I can’t find anyone who thinks a new CB would have delivered as many points as who we did buy.
    Today, we were too complacent and fair play to Martinez for realising our 4-3-3 gives too much space on the flanks when we haven’t got the ball. We were 5 yards off all afternoon.
    Their fans were a disgrace, singing “Scumderland”. Can you imagine us singing for Manure against Citeh next week?

  • 89 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    Chuck Norris is afraid of Cheik Tiote

  • 90 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night he checks his closet for Cheik Tiote.

  • 91 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    Disinfectants can kill 99.9% of germs but tiote can kill 100% of whatever the f**k he wants.

  • 92 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    Cheik Tiotes house doesnt have doors. He doesnt believe in barriers, he breaks them.

  • 93 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:23 PM

    Tiote regularly donates blood……………..just never his own

  • 94 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:23 PM

    Cheik Tiote was banned from the NFL for refusing to wear pads

  • 95 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:24 PM

    Cheik Tiote fought in Iraq, Afghansitan and Vietnam……….on the same day

  • 96 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:26 PM

    Cheik Tiote’s calendar goes straight from 31st March to 2nd April. No one fools Cheik Tiote.

  • 97 Magpie_Man // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:26 PM

    Those players dont deserve CL, we’ve had 4 good beatings and 3 of them have been against bottom half teams and its not good enough. 4 0 against wigan is a disgrace and i think we arnt gunna get CLbecause there is to much pressure on them. Lets just hope we dont get any thrashings in our next 3 games.

  • 98 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    Cheik Tiote was in a knife fight last night. The knife lost

  • 99 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    When Cheik Tiote crosses the street, the cars have to look both ways!

  • 100 Rotonda heights // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    Have to say Martinez gave us a footballing lesson today, it was Barcelona stuff at times. With the players he has, it’s a miracle what Martinez is doing there.

    Ordinary teams play 442, good teams play 433 and outstanding teams a la Brazil play 3-4-3

    All we need is an explanation why Pardew tinkered with a winning system and didn’t change it a lot sooner after the second goal went in when it was so obvious whatever he was trying wasn’t working, ie swapping Jonas and Santon over to disastrous effect.

    Marveux in a 433 would be good flanking Cisse with Benny.It has to be Cisse or Ba, because they don’t work together.

  • 101 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    Multiple people have died from Cheik Tiote giving them the finger.

  • 102 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    A Handicap parking sign does not signify that this spot is for handicapped people. It is actually in fact a warning, that the spot belongs to Cheik Tiote and that you will be handicapped if you park there.

  • 103 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    Although it is not common knowledge, there are actually three sides to the Force: the light side, the dark side, and Cheik Tiote.

  • 104 Big Pappa Cisse // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    @Magpie Man

    Are you for real, just incase you didn’t know there are 38 games in a season and you cant just cherry pick some of our poor results and justify that statement. I for one think we are the team most deserving of CL

  • 105 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    The grass is always greener on the other side, unless Cheick Tiote has been there. In which case the grass is most likely soaked in blood and tears.

  • 106 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:31 PM

    Cheick Tiote fines the FA every time he is yellow carded.

  • 107 Rotonda heights // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:31 PM

    the thing is if we don’t get CL, who knows when we will ever get a better chance

  • 108 steve // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    Honestly I wasn’t saying we definitely wont get CL because we still have a massive chance just feel that today was the “easiest” of our remaining fixtures and we had to win.

    I suppose we will know better by tomorrow evening…

    Blackburn & QPR :) :) :)

  • 109 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    Tiote, Alan Pardew and Steve Bruce went out on a fishing trip together.

    After Tiote had scared a few sharks out of the water and dared them to die, Alan Pardew said “hey guys, bet you can’t do this…” he then got out of the boat and and walked 10 paces across the water, before returning, dry as a bone.

    Tiote gave an unimpressed grunt, and walked twenty paces across the water before returning. Then Steve Bruce had a go, but he sank as soon as his foot touched the sea.

    “Maybe we should have told him about the stepping stones” said Alan Pardew between laughs.

    “What stepping stones?” replied Tiote.

    It is actually a scientific fact that Tiote can walk on water; he’s so intimidating that as he approaches, the water’s surface tension increases enough to support his weight. Unfortunately scientists can’t determine how much the tension increases as no set of scales has ever dared give an accurate reading to him.

  • 110 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:35 PM

    ok im running out of steam now……….

  • 111 GeordieToon89 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:35 PM

    Thats what happens when the manager f*s about with a winning team formation!! conceded 1 goal in 6 playing 4-3-3 against better teams so he changed it and plays ultra defensive against a team in good form yes but also a team we should never in a million years concede 4 against!!!!! WTF was Pardew playing at!
    BUT

    Weve had a great season and were guarenteed europe so im unbelievably happy with this season and this was just a little tiny blip

  • 112 Big Pappa Cisse // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    Anyone else on here hate losing more than they enjoy winning ?

  • 113 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    Big Pappa Cisse
    depends what team it is

  • 114 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:41 PM

    for example
    wigan A RELEGATION THREATENED SIDE
    newcastle A CL COMPETING CLUB
    if this was against man city i would be not happy but i wud understand the defeat to a better team

  • 115 alexkennedy // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:50 PM

    just watching on football first, a lot of positives from the second half, just didnt turn up in the first half.

  • 116 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:53 PM

    Rotonda,

    The next chance we’ll get of CL will be next season if we miss it this time round. AP gave an interview where he hammered it home that you don’t just rest on one decent season you go back and turn in those performances week in week out. We aren’t good enough to have that level of consistency yet but some team strengthening and we’ll be there or thereabouts next season too

  • 117 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:56 PM

    NUFC786

    A desperate team is who have beaten every other top eight side recently (very unlucky against Chelski) is going to be harder work than a top two side of inconsistent form and though they’re on top form going into the derby, they may not be coming out of it.

  • 118 Graeme // Apr 28, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    Not at all sure what is wrong with Ba, but something is not right. In the last 3 or 4 games he has parked himself in the centre circle and rarely leaves it until the ball is being taken past him and he joins in.

    When the attack breaks down Ba wanders back to the circle 9 times out of 10. He seems completely disenchanted with whats going on around him; Cisse seems to have stolen his thunder and he isnt at all pleased by it.

    This needs to be sorted PDQ for the benefit of the team!!

  • 119 fungus44 // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    so we lost to the better team today, wigan wanted the win more , slagging individual players is wrong the whole team to day were shit but at the end of the day we still 4 place and in europe

  • 120 solano // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    We’ve been on the receiving end of a few ‘gubbings’ this season and have usually reacted well in the following games.
    As some have rightly pointed out (those who did not claim Pardew to be a Sunday League manager just 3short months ago) the beatings have usually arrrived when our ‘engine room’ in midfield has not been quite up to the high levels which have driven the team up the league for most of the season.
    Beattie @57 is spot on in his observation that the squad needs strengthening in several areas if this year’s relative success is going to become sustainable in the future.
    People can argue as long as they want over formations and tactical tinkering, but the manager will always be relying on his most important players to perform at a consistently high level in order to garner good results – especially when the squad is small. From this, it follows that the manager wants quality in depth in order to deal with inevitable variations and dips in form.
    Pardew deserves not only the credit for an excellent overall season and getting the best out of limited resources ( be it temperemental talent or limited ability players) but deserves the backing in the summer to build a squad that will make our ‘off days’ even less frequent and signal that we really are wanting to challenge at the top on a regular basis.

  • 121 ToonDownSouth // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    Rotonda

    That’s making football sound simple. It’s not. Manchester United have been one of the worlds most successful sides over the last 20 years, mainly playing 4-4-2.

    Spain are European & World Champions, playing a 4-3-3 / 4-5-1 / 4-2-3-1.

    If Wigan were so fcuking amazing, why are they fighting relegation every single year?

    Wigan have caught a few big teams out playing an unfamiliar formation, and it’s saved them this season. Next season it probably will not, and teams will be wise to it, and Martinez will have to find something else. I’m sure he will though, because he seems an excellent coach.

    But please let’s not get obsessed with one result. It’s a 38 game season, and we’re going to finish 6th at worst, 3rd at best.

  • 122 ToonDownSouth // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    solano

    I used to think you were such a depressed fan, but these days you just come across as pleasantly realistic. I agree with your post, however I feel we’ll end up fretting until September 1st over whether or not Pardew has recieved adequate support from up top.

  • 123 Geordie Mitch // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    Firstly! I’ve not read any comments yet just getting back from the match but this headline sucks Ed!

    Yes we were out played and out performed In this match, credit to Martinez, he did us! Having said that we need to get our feet back on the ground!

    Top six and Europe guaranteed!! Lets get over this loss (the first in 6!!) And beat Chelsea on weds!!!

    If you had offered me this at the start of the season I would have broken your arm off!!

    Tactically destroyed but hopefully this will ground the lads!!

    2-1 on weds

    HWTL

  • 124 t00ntime // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:34 PM

    @graeme
    ba is probably upset… not because of cisse scoring all the goals but because the fans doubt him. A newspaper said he was upset, a NEWSPAPER there has never been any evidence. He explained why he was upset when he got subbed and that had nothing to do with goalscoring. He said himself that he doesnt care who scores as long as we score, but of course he would like to score some.

    Look aht the celebration last week when cisse scored, ba had a smile bigger then cisses and cabayes put together as they were doing some strange ars3 dance.

    IMO the only reason Ba is upset is because all the fans on twitter started telling him not to be upset (when he wasnt even upset) that probably made him feel like he isnt loved if he doesn’t score. I don’t know about you but if I’m sitting somewhere and my frineds keep asking me if I’m upset and I’m keep telling them “no I’m not” if they keep going on after a while I get upset… not with what I’m doing but with the fact that they keep saying that I AM UPSET… thats probably what happend to Ba.

    about the ba in the center circle, yes he doesn’t track back as much but playing in a 4-3-3 with cisse and HBA going back to defend he needs to stay upfront. why in the center circle? he is a average paced striker… if he gets a lucky break he wants a run at goal not a run at the corner and then having to try tricks to get at goal. There is nothing wrong with ba atm but believe me weather he is upset or not the more people tell him he is upset the more upset he will become.

  • 125 Wor Shearer // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    No, watching the game on MOTD doesn’t make it easier to take.

  • 126 GeordieToon89 // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:38 PM

    Sure someone said the other day that Hamburg were looking likely to get relegated which would make it easier to get Son Heing Ming or whatever.. Just looking and they’re know where near relegation they’re like 6 or 8 points ahead with 1 game left lol

  • 127 t00ntime // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    @solano agreed, I also like the fact how your not complaing about MA not spending loads of cash on CB’s in january. I think cabaye and tiote will get better season by season. I think we should all be happy with how quickly our team are gelling together, and with all the africa days etc we seem to create a great team spirit to bounce back from this.
    I cant see our core changing to much next season, hopefully they are just more prepared for the league. but our midfield 3 cant get much better our front 3 can only get better if ba starts scoring ( or we bring in some class player like johnson) our back 4 has santon colo already, when saylor comes back if he keeps his form thats 3 starters and only simpson might change.
    I do think we will make our ‘2nd’ squad more capable though instead of having 4 youngsters on the bench every game

  • 128 solano // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    TDS…I’m an optimist by nature….a cynic from experience ;-)
    I think I’m beginning to like you too though!
    My fears are that the ‘alchemists’ in the boardroom may have convinced themselves that they have cracked this football mularchy by relying on a formula that is not conducive to fulfilling our huge potential.
    At the same time, I recognise – in their sheer will for the club to be truly successful- the Geordie publics unerring propensity to go off half-cocked and proclaim something that hasn’t quite been achieved

  • 129 solano // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:45 PM

    Toontime…thankyou…..however, I must point out we have actuallynever had 3 specialist cb’s fit at any given time this season! I agree it isn’t about the size of transfer fees paid….but the large transfer kitty profits accrued in the last 3years could go towards gettin 5or6 £5m players in the squad who would undoubtedly strengthen our hand in competing, don’t you think?

  • 130 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:50 PM

    solano

    You’re not really a cynic from experience – just a bit more sceptical. :-)

    The Geordie nation does have an OTT tendency at times – in both positive and negative circumstances…
    We really do need to just get beaten by the odd goal in away losses and not fall apart for 30-45mins and let in 3 or 4. Still don’t quite understand why.

  • 131 JTOONJ // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    Traveled three hours to see Newcastle! Oh the joys of being a Geordie.

  • 132 Toonbyblood // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM

    So many cry babies on this site. We’ve bounced back from most of our big defeats. The sky isn’t falling in.

    The tactics didn’t work for us today. Massive gaps at the back – especially on the break. Same as what happened at Fulham.

    Have to say in our defence we had some great chances to get back into it. Any other day we would have taken those and Wigan wouldn’t.

    In the end would rather loose to Martinez than most other clubs – and to a team that have taken out all the other big clubs. Good to get the lose out the way so we can now go at Chelsea with a reset win count!

    Howay!

  • 133 stuart no9 // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM

    solano @117- ” deserves the backing the summer”- that includes keeping our best players and not selling them on to make a few bob, unless they want to leave of course.Selling the likes of Krul , Tiote benny , or anyone who can have a big influence on a game would be a backward step for a club looking to play regular european football. It is certainly no big deal if we dont make CL this season , to be honest i dont care, the main thing is we have now got our foot in the door, now, we have to build on that. getting into CL- imo , would not do us any favours, lets test the water in the europa league and build on that.

  • 134 soundoid // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    Shit I agree with Larwo, Wigan did to us today what we’ve done to teams over the last six matches. I think Lawro is starting to become a fan:)

    We’re not the finished article yet but the signs are good.

    We can get a result a |Chelsea. A Draw would be good.

    5th spot anyone?

  • 135 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    stuart

    Aye we need to wedge that foot in the door so damn hard we’re in this position every season.

  • 136 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 28, 2012 at 10:59 PM

    soundoid

    I blame LAwro – he predicted an away win – he was wrong all those times he marked us down. He just doesn’t get the Toon right at all. Hope he has us down for three straight losses – that’ll be 9 pts then…

  • 137 solano // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    Stu9 @133..I generally agree but would argue that the fears we have about losing players would be more likely to be allayed if we qualified for the CL – prize money and vanity might (MIGHT) offset a tendency to take a quick player profit.

  • 138 joe // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I thought we played 3 at the back only AFTER we conceded the 2nd goal. I think today was an anomaly, as we just couldn’t find the answers to cope with a 3-4-3 formation. That and Wigan played with so much more intensity than we did.

    As someone mentioned earlier, when the ball went wide, their front 3 tucked in causing our back for to tuck in as well, and basically their wingbacks had the whole pitch to run at our defence. In hindsight, what we needed to do was press high from the off and peg back their wingbacks. Instead we let them press us high and when Ben Arfa and Ba follow the wingbacks all the way to our half we basically have Cisse up alone against 3 defenders.

    Credit to Roberto Martinez from daring to continue with this system even when results went against them.. Really takes some courage. Now it gives them an advantage over every other team in the league as they are used to playing against conventional 442 or 433 but nobody else is used to playing against a 343.

  • 139 stuart no9 // Apr 29, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    solano- talking about losing players and wondering if we can keep a hold of him, or will we lose him…etc if we keep going in the right direction like we are doing , and as you know i have never been a fan of pards, but credit must go to the man for his efforts this term,where will our our big names go to better themselves ( in england?) if ash can go a couple of seasons without selling , and strengthen in certain areas, we could become a top 4 club, something i wouldnt have said at the start of the season.

  • 140 obatoyou // Apr 29, 2012 at 6:22 AM

    weird how two people can have complete opposite opinion of one game heh




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