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Wigan vs Newcastle – Match Preview

11:44 am, Saturday, April 28th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 101 Comments

Wigan have won four of their last six league games, including wins over Liverpool, Manchester United and Arsenal.

So with that form over the last six games,  we know Wigan will be a tough nut to crack this afternoon, even though they went down 2-1 to Fulham last weekend in their last game.

As usual,  Alan Pardew will have prepared the team impeccably for this game,  and we should see Newcastle trying to hit Wigan on the break,  and test just how good that Wigan defense is.

The former Newcastle youngster Gary Caldwell is in the center of their defense, and Gary is the Wigan captain too.

Yohan Cabaye is expected to have recovered from the ankle knock that forced him out of the win over Stoke City last Saturday after only an hour.

Sylvain Marveaux and Gabriel Obertan are fit again, but are not travelling to Wigan,  and will be available for the game st Stamford Bridge on Wednesday night.

Newcastle have four games to  play in the next 15 days, and we finish the season on 13th May at Everton,  and it’s been an outstanding season for the Newcastle club, who currently have 62 points from their 34 games and stand clear in 4th place.

The lads have nothing to lose, and we have already qualified for Europe – and it’s now a case of showing the fans and the pundits, just how good a team Newcastle are.

It seems almost certain that Alan Pardew will start the same team that rather easily won the game against Stoke City  last Saturday,  and this is the expected line-up.

Krul
Simpson Coloccini (c) Williamson Santon
Cabaye Tiote Gutierrez
Ben Arfa Cise Demba Ba
Subs: Elliot, Perch, Guthrie Gosling Taylor (R) Ameobi (Sh) Best

That’s a strong team and a strong bench, and it will be difficult for Gabby Obertan and Sylvain Marveaux to even get onto the bench at Chelsea on Wednesday evening, in what promises to be a great game – and an excellent test for Newcastle.

For Wigan Ronnie Stam is the only definite absentee this week, and there will be late fitness tests on Franco Di Santo and Hugo Rodallega, to see if they are able to play.

Wigan are 4th bottom, on 34 points from 35 games played, just one point above safety, and have won only three of their home matches, but five matches away from home, including at the Emirates recently.

Wigan were very good at Newcastle this season, when we won with that late goal from Yohan Cabaye after 81 minutes.

Obviously we’d love to see another win today to make it seven wins in a row for Newcastle, and if our lads can play solidly at the back, and Papiss Cisse, Demba Ba and Ben Arfa are sharp up front, we could be celebrating another win tonight.

Let us know how you think the game will go today:

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101 responses so far ↓

  • 1 super magpie // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM

    Hoping for 3 points today, I can’t remember the last time we won so many games :)

    Howay the lads!

  • 2 SmileyFace // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM

    Newcastle and Wigan are both high up in the form table for a reason.

    this promises to be a great game. And also a cheeky wee scout mission too.

  • 3 nufc786 // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM

    Tottenham and Newcastle are weighing up a move for Javi Marquez, 25, after the Espanyol midfielder turned down a new deal at the club, paving the way for a summer exit.

    Everton boss David Moyes is ready to snap up Wigan’s Senegal midfielder Mohamed Diame on a free transfer in the summer, but he could face competition from Newcastle. The 24-year-old’s contract expires at the end of the season.

  • 4 JAMSHA // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM

    not sure… its a tough game

  • 5 Pardew's fist pump // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    WIN WIN WIN! The NUFC juggernaut will continue to crush any who cross it’s path!

  • 6 super magpie // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    @786

    I’ve read your post 3 times I don’t see what the hype is about Diame, he hardly starts for Wigan, so what makes him good enough to play here and for javi Marquez. Never heard of him, could be guthries replacement if he leaves. And please stop reposting as well.

  • 7 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    Easiest of the tough games we have left but still gonna be hard getting 3 points on the board

    Wigan play a 3-4-3 on the attack which could expose them to our counter. Should be a good game hopefully and lets pray Ba gets on the score sheet

  • 8 out of toon // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    4 – 0
    maybe 4-1

    i think we have the drive that the big boys who wigan beat were lacking
    it is however a tough ask and yes Ed, i believe we’ll witness a counter-attacking masterclass. Don’t think they have the defence to handle us or the firepower to inflict much damage

    Ben arfa wondergoal anyone???!!!!

    HWTL

  • 9 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Sorry for reposting but

    Krul or given?
    Benny or Robert or ginola?
    Cabaye or speed?
    Raylor/perch or Hughes?
    Xisco or andreas andersson?
    Ba or Ferdinand?
    Cisse or Cole?
    Gutierrez or solano?
    O’brien or Williamson?

    Any other suggestions?

    And anything less than 3points today would be somewhat disappointing. Wigan would be very happy with a point out of us

  • 10 davybtoon // Apr 28, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Diame n Marquez both really good players wouldn’t mind either of them

  • 11 davybtoon // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:00 PM

    If we want 3rd then we hav to win today it’s that simple

  • 12 tdt // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Just watching football focus at the moment, they’ve spent the last 10 minutes discussing whether Spurs will get into CL. They didn’t even mention Newcastle! It was all about Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal.

    It’s as if we are invisible to the national media!

  • 13 hotdog // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Good article below folks on the training ground!
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2136234/Newcastle-United-Behind-scenes.html

  • 14 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Still not sold on Diame and Marquez I know little about but seems fairly highly rated

  • 15 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    3-0 Ba. Ba. Cisse.
    That’s the hope. 3 goals from the SSS. senegalese striking sensations

  • 16 mecannylad // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Mecannylass has just given me a good rub down …. I`m all set …. http://www.mecannylad.com

  • 17 out of toon // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    davybtoon

    here’s hoping we tear them both new ones tonight

  • 18 davybtoon // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    IMO I think corgnet will come in for Guthrie

  • 19 super magpie // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Krul
    Ginola
    Cabaye
    Raylor
    Do I have to pick one? Ok xisco then
    Ferdinand
    Cisse
    Solano
    O’brien

    How about beye or Simpson?

  • 20 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    If we hammer the counterattack it could really overwhelm them. Their defence is no better than blackberry, Boston, or wolves. Blackburn bolton or wolves even. Autocorrect. Benny wondergoal anyone?

  • 21 JackButler // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    Today is going to be a tough one for us, two teams who have found a run of form should produce a good game :)

  • 22 ToonDownSouth // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    Why does anyone care about how much Football Focus are talking about us? Christ. Why should that be in any way important?

  • 23 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    @Super Magpie those would be my choices too. While i like Simpson id plump for beye there

  • 24 rob // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEqaa84sq7c

  • 25 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    @22 its not really important. I think we are just getting sick of being ignored. I read the paper yesterday and it mentioned man u, man city, arsenal, spurs, chelski and Liverpool. I couldn’t find anything on us

  • 26 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    More than happy for us to be ignored by the media tbh

  • 27 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Does Simpson have the most goalline clearances of any outfield player this season in the pl?

  • 28 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    cheick
    I reckon Simmo has more than some PL GKs this season tbh ;)

  • 29 JackButler // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    The more the media ignore us and write us off, the more satisfying it will be when we prove everyone wrong

  • 30 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    Fair enough wwjbd. I would prefer the team to get at least some more recognition

  • 31 bollance // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    Davybtoon

    Thought you might like this one..

    Trialist Rolando Aarons is playing for u18′s today. He is a winger formally of Bristol City and only 16. Also in the team Macauley Booth formerly of Blackburn Rovers.

    The recruitment drive has started!

  • 32 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM

    @wwjbd you might be right there about simmo. While Tim Howard has scored almost as many as torres lol

  • 33 rich_toonfan // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    I have no interest in what the experts say on TV…you would think they would watch a lot of football and keep up to date with facts from the league but they don’t…they follow their own sides and the big teams, that’s it.

    They just jump on the bandwagon of people like harry redknapp or teams like swansea….never mention things n merit…just go along with the crowd.

    And this whole thing about simmo being statistically the best RB…..I like him nd think he does a very good job but not the best in the league.

    Remember guys…..football is not played on paper…its played on grass.

  • 34 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    chieck
    Aye recognition would be good but when do the media ever give that out? Its always back handed compliments and trying to unsettle players

    Twitter journos are very complimentary towards us but thats cos they are trying to flog their papers/programmes

  • 35 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    @bollance i.love hearing about how our youth team is doing and when they’re improving

  • 36 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    This is Ba’s moment, I have a feeling……

  • 37 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    @rich i wasn’t talking about simmo being statistically the best rb (Micah Richards or Kyle walker) just wondering if any other player has more goal line clearances. And these “experts” are just biased gits living in a bygone era.

  • 38 check the toastie // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    personally wud say must goalline clearences carry a large degree of luck………………………………….

  • 39 GeordieToon89 // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    Is right Wesley Said in the u18s for today?

  • 40 JackButler // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2136234/Newcastle-United-Behind-scenes.html

  • 41 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    @34 so very true on both counts

  • 42 check the toastie // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    i will try again – paersonally i wud say most goalline clearances carry a large element of luck……………

  • 43 GeordieToon89 // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    Spuggy – Ba will score 2 today

  • 44 check the toastie // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    and the simpson debate starts……wud play perch instead of simmo to be fair.

  • 45 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    @38 i know. I wasn’t saying it makes him a better player, just wondering about the stats

  • 46 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    GT89
    Where did u hear that about Said?

  • 47 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM

    Id keep simmo in and give perch half an hour somewhere on the pitch. Either rb or in for cabaye to see out the win

  • 48 bollance // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    Hovis

    The u18s have won the league and are through to national semi finals against either Man City or B’burn (who knocked them out of youth FA Cup) away.

    This generation of u18s are going to be good. They won the Nike cup at u15 a few seasons back and have stars like Adam Campbell (who Real Madrid were after – fact) and Remi Street who apparently is physically ready to play pro football. Look out for Remi going out on loan to Gateshead next season who will be some acheivement for a 17 year old.

    To come through is very hard especially now that we are a top 7 team. It is difficult to blood players when there is massive pressure on AP to win every game. Chelsea have always been renowned for having top youth set up but they have had few youths come though. The dame is happening at Man City now. Solution – get these players out on loan.

  • 49 cupiddstunt // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:34 PM

    Mecannylad @ # 16

    In reality you appear anything but a canny lad you post nothing related to the thread and constantly spamming the thread with your site link, why not do us all a favour and put your link into your blog name and if someone wants to see what you are linking to they can without having to wade through your puerile ramblings.

    Rob @ # 24

    Another poster that never posts anything relevant to the thread,

    Ok got the link first time around like about a dozen threads ago, what’s up? you spamming the blog to try and get some more hits on your tube vid.

    Same advice would be put the link in your blog name and anyone interested can click on the name the you could possibly have room for a comment on the thread or football topic.

  • 50 bollance // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM

    GT89

    Wesley Said is not in the u18 team today.

    People on here suggested his trial starts this weekend.

    He is a u17 French national striker from Rennes(?)

  • 51 davybtoon // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    Bollance cheers love to find out about new players coming in

  • 52 cupiddstunt // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    HOVIS @ # 27

    I think statistically Simpson has more goal line clearances than some keepers this season. :-)

  • 53 cupiddstunt // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Sorry missed WWJBD’s comment

  • 54 bollance // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    Dont think we are after Javi Martinez unless he has a £5M release clause! Why blow the transfer budget on one or two players at £15M plus each when they could get injured. Spred the risk with players like Cabaye / Tiote who will become £15M plus players.

  • 55 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    @cupid. Bit late. You were beaten to that a while ago lol

  • 56 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    Cheers bollance. You’re my youth team Newsman from now on

  • 57 GeordieGesus // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    0-14 and we’re in 3rd place. :-)

  • 58 josh // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    With the media thing, I quite like Newcastle being talked about. It doesn’t happen often and when they did it was negative. So I’m quite happy to bask in the glory with a huge sense of smugness when they do. After re ent years, we’ve earned the right.

  • 59 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    Good goal by Southampton if anyone is watching

  • 60 ToonDownSouth // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    bollance

    Who mentioned Javi Martinez? :|

  • 61 GeordieGesus // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    Oops, and Arsenal lose.

  • 62 MacToon // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    2-0 now WWJBD, looks like they’re joining the prem and Fat Sam’s gonna have to win the play-offs. I hope CH wins through the play-offs tbh.

  • 63 obatoyou // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    who would vote that we lose??

  • 64 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    Southampton 2 nil up now promotion party coming

  • 65 cupiddstunt // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    check the toastie @ # 38

    Sorry have to disagree with you there if you watch the games whenever there is a goal mouth skirmish Simpson makes a conscious effort to get to the goal line if Tim comes off his line.

    If all the clearances were just from set pieces I would say it is because he is being put there due to AP tactics, but a lot of them have come in more open play and whenever Tim steps up Simpson steps in so to speak.

    Also the number of clearances he has tells you they are not just down to luck, if you were to apply your logic to the game in general then you can claim most things carry a large degree of luck which is true but why give high praise to a player who is riding his luck e.g. Papiss and then slate another for his luck e.g. Simpson.

  • 66 GeordieToon89 // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    TDS – would love Javi Martinez but he would cost in excess of £20million lol

  • 67 Dannyo // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    Hey lads, i’m in the US, hence the little posting on my behalf.
    Surely, if we could grab 3rd, it is the run in of the millenium (so far)?
    Has any other teams had better run ins u think?

    @bollance
    Where did u get the youth team news from mate?

  • 68 josh // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    I’m backing Birmingham all the way. But a part if me wants Ian holloway back on motd. Comedy and football is the perfect tonic

  • 69 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    West Ham, Birmingham, Blackpool, Cardiff or Middlesbrough I will happily see come up through the play offs

  • 70 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    Holloway and strachan give great interviews

  • 71 steve // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Afternoon lads,

    Really do not know how to call today’s game. Part of me thinks if we get the early goal their heads will drop and we will go on to properly hammer them 5/6-0. But then the other, slightly saner, part of reckons this will be a very tough game.

    I’m going to go 2-1 with Demba to score first :D

    HWLT !!!

  • 72 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    Southampton have always been my second favourite team. Used to love Marion pahars

  • 73 rich_toonfan // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    the thing is simpson has made his own luck…..if you get in a good position on the line you will block some….if you never get in the right place you wont.

    same as cisse (any goood striker) you get in a good place often enough the cross will eventually be right and you will get your goal

  • 74 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    @Steve you putting that bet on?

  • 75 steve // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Yes mate 35/1 stuck a cheeky £5 on it :D

  • 76 Minato // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM

    Going to be a tight game but I think the loss against fulham will have knocked the wind out of their sails a little bit. I think if we score early I can see it being 3-1..both dembas and Ben arfa to score..very scrappy game back at ours but I think we are playing with more quality now and hopefully we will make that count!

  • 77 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    Good luck Steve . I got money on Ben area first goal myself

  • 78 steve // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    Thanks bud. Not too fussed who scores and how many as long as its 3 points…

  • 79 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    My word how I dislike Savage

  • 80 steve // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Thanks bud. Not too fussed who scores and how many as long as its 3 points

  • 81 cupiddstunt // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    rich_toonfan @ # 73

    Absolutely that is the game in a nutshell, forwards get into scoring positions and sometimes they score other times they hit row “Z”.

    For the number of off the line clearances Danny has made this season it show when in open play he is very aware of when Tim moves off the line and steps in to cover him so making his own luck.

    I just find it a bit wearing to constantly hear some players getting slagged and accused of the very same thing other players are being praised for.

  • 82 Minato // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    Yeh I’ll be rooting for Birmingham in the play offs as well..hughton has done a fantastic job with them this season as most of us would have expected. I wish him every success as long as it doesn’t mess with us next season.

  • 83 HOVIS (the poster formerly known as cheick norris) // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:36 PM

    @Steve 78&80 i agree with that sentiment

  • 84 Ashton // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    We should sign Jordy Clasie. He is gonna be the best DM/CM in the world

  • 85 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    I’m with Steve.
    If we score an early goal we’ll take the three points.
    If they do then we’ll be up against it to take the single point. Close one to call as Wigan are on a good run, not anywhere near as good as us, but more desperate….really desperate…
    Reckon someone below us will drop points but a draw would be okay here and then three off Chelski.

  • 86 toonbrother // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    I’m worried about today. Mark Lawrenson has predicted a Newcastle away win. He usually doesnt have a clue what he’s talking about so I expect the opposite of what he says to come true. Hope I’m wrong

  • 87 geoff777 // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    I guess our team is picking itself atm.

    433 – loving Jonas a LDM perfect for him.

    HWTL

  • 88 MagpiesFlyHigh // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    cupid

    Aye – why are folk still criticising Danny ?
    He’s got a good understanding with Krul at set pieces so what’s the deal over goal line clearances ? Worth ten points to us this season, lucky or not…

  • 89 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM

    Chelsea to sign Marin from Germany in the summer, good player but wonder who is signing players as they dont have a real manager atm

    Southampton coming up in style as well

  • 90 Dannyo // Apr 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    @WWJBD
    Lol, aye, that is an odd one. Starting to sign players before a manager is officially hired.
    Also he’s a winger/ACM, which i expect they really don’t need…
    Unless they’re already replacing some of the “old goods” in the stable?

  • 91 Dannyo // Apr 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Krul, Simpson, Coloccini, Williamson, Santon, Jonas, Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse, Ba

    Unchanged.

  • 92 tdt // Apr 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Krul, Simpson, Coloccini, Williamson, Santon, Jonas, Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse, Ba

    Elliot, Perch, Ferguson, R.Taylor, Gosling, Shola Ameobi, Best.

  • 93 Dannyo // Apr 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    bench Elliot, Perch, Ferguson, R.Taylor, Gosling, Shola Ameobi, Best.

  • 94 obatoyou // Apr 28, 2012 at 2:01 PM

    football is not important, there are people dying in africa, we should be spending our energy helping them, not watching football games and discussing them, thank you very much

  • 95 WWJBD // Apr 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    Dannyo
    Aye Roman doesnt learn does he…though cant really turn down the oppertunity to sign a good player like Marin for a bargain 7mill (meant to be anyway)

    And yeah might not need him but cants ever have too muich quality reckon Hazard is going to Manchester now though, maybe a little more north if Cabs gets in his ear though ;)

  • 96 geoff777 // Apr 28, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    Quietly confident … but would love an early goal or three.

    HWTL

  • 97 Dannyo // Apr 28, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    @WWJBD
    Haha, well, if Cabs sends him a few whispers and we manage the CL, the only thing it could realistically stand on is funds tbh :P

    The Marin signing, maybe an indication that Roman is willing to keep Di Matteo in charge?

  • 98 toonpanda18 // Apr 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    My predictions are that we beat Wigan 3-1, beat Chelsea 2-0 but lose to man city as I’m going and finally snatching a later equaliser against everton

  • 99 kingcarty // Apr 28, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    Anyone got links for today lads?

  • 100 Oleg G // Apr 28, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    CH is going to the playoffs with B.City right? :)

  • 101 woolerbill // Apr 28, 2012 at 3:47 PM

    I hope you all see wigan 3 new 0, so please stop all this rubbish about the camp league. If we get one more point this season we will be lucky. Welcome to the real world.




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