Alan Pardew Is Under-Performing At Newcastle?

Alan Pardew has been in football management for over fourteen years.

Alan Pardew at Newcastle – his win percentage matches his average over his management career

Pardew’s first experience as a manager came in March of 1998, when he was appointed as the caretaker manager at Reading, after the departure of Terry Bullivant.

And after being successful as their caretaker manager, the Londoner was appointed the permanent Reading manager the next year.

So that’s 14 years as a manager, and some of that hard won experience is starting to pay off for Pardew at Newcastle.

Alan stayed at Reading until September of 2003, and in his 212 games in charge,  he had an impressive win record of 48.1%, which is a lot better than his current 42.9% in his 63 games in charge of Newcastle.

Alan went on to manage West Ham, Charlton, Southampton and then Newcastle and in his total management career of 595 games in charge, and he has a very good 42.9% win average overall, which is exactly what it is currently at Newcastle, as it turns out.

One way to look at that is that Alan is even under-performing at Newcastle, well he’s only on par let’s say, even though he’s got the lads in 4th place in the Premier League.

Three of his former players, Malky Mackay, Brendan Rodgers and Brian McDermott have done very well indeed this season, as has their mentor.

Swansea have done great under Rodgers’ management, Malky Mackay did a good job at at Watford when he took over from the sacked Rodgers in June of 2009, before he moved to Cardiff two years later.

Cardiff made the Championship play-offs this season,  getting 6th place with 75 points from their 46 games, and of course Alan tried to get Mackay as his Assistant Manager on Tyneside, before he brought in John Carver.

Brian McDermott has done an excellent job at Reading and has the club promoted after winning the Championship with 89 points from their 38 games, and having lost out to Swansea in the play-off final last year.

Pardew is pleased his mentorees are doing so well:

“There are a lot of my ex-players who have gone into management and are doing well, which makes me very proud.” “That’s honestly great for me to see.”

“Malky took Cardiff City to the League Cup Final, which was a fantastic achievement, and Brendan has been absolutely brilliant for Swansea in their first year in the Premier League.”

“And then there is Brian (McDermott) who, for me, is probably the manager of the year for winning promotion with Reading.” “So it’s been a great season for me personally.”

“All my old teams have actually done well. Charlton got promotion to the Championship last week when Reading got to the Premier League, which is fantastic.”

Having looked at Alan Pardew’s overall record in management, and what he has achieved at Newcastle  so far, he is only matching his overall average performance at Newcastle,  in the 63 games in charge on Tyneside.

We wonder where Newcastle will be if Alan gets to over-perform at Newcastle – winning the Champions League?

Well – at least we can dream.

30 comments so far

  • rich_toonfan

    Apr 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #1

    Alan has been brilliant since he came to the club…I had my doubts but he has surrounded himself with good coaches and scouts and used all his experience to get the best out of the team.

    The game yesterday was a disappointment but wigan have had some great results recently. They are scrapping for every point to avoid relegation.

    Pardew changed the system when 2-0 down and it didn’t really work but it didn’t matter. He will have tried this in training with good results so probably fancied giving it a go during the game. It wont have just been a panic decision.

    People get too carried away that we lost one game.

    On paper we shouldn’t loose 4-0 to Wigan….but we shouldn’t beat man utd 3-0….take the good with the bad.

  • GeordieToon89

    Apr 29, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #2

    Rich – spot on mate

  • Lee Dodd

    Apr 29, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #3

    Alan Pardew Has Done Very Well for Us . Even Kevin Keegan Wouln’t have been able to get us were we are today. Last Week at The Stoke Game the Crowd were calling his name . After all that has gone on with the Andy Carroll Saga and Jose Enriqui etc he has still won the fans over . A Lot has been to do with John Carver Bobbys Right Hand Man but we all have to agree it has been a cracking season just a shame we didn’t win a cup. We are in Europe but champions league I think its maybe a season to soon as we are not strong enough as the likes of Man Utd or Chelsea or Man City or Arsenal just yet . I would not like us to get relegated next season because of a week squad and injurys etc… Look at what happened to Birmingham…

  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 29, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #4

    Obviously an ironic title Ed.

    From what I could see, although I didn’t start watching till after the first 8 mins, was that Santon had basically swapped positions with Jonas with disastrous consequences. Was that how they set out from the start, ie with Santon on the right?

    When Raylor got injured 7 matches ago, Pardew switched from a long ball 442 on to a very successful passing 433 with Benny at the fulcrum.

    With CL within touching distance, why would anyone mess about with it? But again I am not sure how which formation we started the game. It does seem we choke at the worst times. By the law of averages Spurs must come out of their rut soon.

    Wish we had spent another 500k on Moses than buying Best!

  • check the toastie

    Apr 29, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #5

    The points tally this year and results gained are an over achievement in my opinion based on the actual team performances over the season, Pardew can be praised on one hand and then that praise taken away with the other.

    Yesterday yet again was a reminder that maybe we are the only top 8 team who can throw in such an abysmal performance, not sure why but for sure if we concede first away from home we seem to fall apart and panic.

    This needs to be addressed. A serious reality check and it just shows our position in the league is such an over achievement, this arguament is based on a large number of our actual performances this season.

    Are people today confident we could match this league postion with the same staff next year, i dont think so. Hope for our weaknesses to be addressed through the summer, not confident now for the next 3 games, 6th is still great though.

  • rich_toonfan

    Apr 29, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #6

    In all honesty I don’t care whether we are in champs league or europa league.

    I would obviously prefer us to be in champs league but as long as I get to go see a few european games at st. James’ I will be happy.

    People get too greedy….t the start of the season we would all have snatched prdews hand off if he said we would be in 4th with 3 games to go, guaranteed 6th or above with European football next year.

  • bambams

    Apr 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #7

    Once again one word sums up this fantastic season “EUROPE”…………

    Well done Pardieu and staff !

  • Beattie25

    Apr 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #8

    14Beattie25 // Apr 29, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    My frustration is that it was the biggest game of the season. The fans all agreed it was the next cup final. It was a chance to lay down a benchmark for the upcoming games and we absolutely imploded. The 3 reasons were the same as the other capitulations this season.

    1. Too arrogant and expecting to be able to play at the same level as previous games.

    2. Terrible tactics and bizarre choices from the manager.

    3. Weak links completely exposed.

    How can the players not have the intensity?! If we were mid table then yeah but a team fighting for CL should have no problems finding intensity. There was something fundamentally wrong with the team set up, team talk and mentality of the players. The fans knew what a BIG game it was and Pardew wanted to take an extra couple of thousand down to Wigan so he knew, what happened?

    Tactics were terrible. Complancey and failure to evolve against Fulhams tactics, same against Spurs and Wigan too. Arrogance and complacency comes into play. We needed to counter act Wigans tactics instead of being overly confident in our own. 4-3-3 is the future but it’s not good enough with Ba at LW/IM. Go back to 4-5-1 without Ba it 4-4-2 with Ba and leave 4-3-3 until next year.

    Weak links exposed again. When we play well our weak links look solid when we play bad our weak links are totally exposed. Simmo and Willo ate simply not good enough. Guti is not a starting CM and again Ba needs to be moved central or benched!

    Overall it was the worst day of the season for me yesterday. So much rested on the game and that showed how the team handles pressure. If we do what all fans see we need to do in the summer we can be in the same positio next year. If we fail to show intensity in the transfer market we will fail to do anything next year.

    Onwards and hopefully upwards!!!

  • hotdog

    Apr 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #9

    That Di Santo looks a good player, his first time knock in behind simpson for maloney was brilliant and his goal was top notch. If Guthrie is away I think he would be a good squad player for us.

  • magpie6699

    Apr 29, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #10

    check – the only top 8 team that can turn in such a poor performance? I seem to recall some top 3 teams having 8 goal and 6 goal defeats this season, plus another going 3-0 down to a Sunderland team who have trouble hitting the proverbial with a banjo!

  • Lew Davies

    Apr 29, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #11

    Beattie – you would like to put all the blame for yesterday at Pardews door, but tbh once the players take to the park the balls in their court.
    The players were so lethargic it beggared belief.
    2 goals in two mins and we folded like a pack of cards.
    No natural leaders on the pitch to kick ass.
    Shit happens but it wasn’t all pardews fault.

  • Robby Bobson

    Apr 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #12

    Beattie25..i can guuarentee if we changed our tactics and lost, you would be saying why change whats got us 6 wins in a row (including away games at Swansea and WBA…).

    It was just one of those days.

    You know its not going for you when Di Santo puts one in from 25 yards and even at 4-0 down we hit the post and hit the bar.

    We’ve had so many fantastic games this season and done to many teams what Wigan have done to us. It happened vs Fulham and Spurs and it hasn’t affected us, so its time to look to Chelsea.

  • Robby Bobson

    Apr 29, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #13

    And those moaning at Pardew, look at what happens when for example Dalglish loses, ehe uses every excuse in the book.

    Every time we’ve got beat like that, Pardew has come out and either said he got it wrong (spurs) or the players were lacking and got out-performed (wigan).

    Thats why i like the bloke.

  • 5Danny94

    Apr 29, 2012 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #14

    I don’t think Pardew’s under-performing. If you look at the statistics, he managed West Ham, Reading and Southampton through the lower leagues, which makes his record with us all the more impressive if you ask me.

  • southafricantoon

    Apr 29, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #15

    I’ll rather lose one game 4-0 than lose 4 games 1-0


    Apr 29, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #16

    Hes doing great for us but i personally think that john carver should be taking a lot of credit aswell because since hes been here weve doing great, same as when he was here with sir bobby robson!

  • Gash

    Apr 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #17

    Reality check yesterday.
    Yes it was a cup final. We lost away to a team that on form over the past few weeks are top 4 side, along with us.
    Listened to Pardew on Talk-sport and he was magnanimous in defeat which shows a lot about the bloke. No one like to lose.
    We should come out mid week against Chelski and batter them and that will put a real edge on next weeks game against Citeh.
    It aint over till we’ve played Everton. 7 points from the next 3 games and Chelsea get beat in the CL final and we get CL .
    What an end to a season
    Keep the Faith lads

  • Munster Mag

    Apr 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #18

    Jeez Beattie it didnt take long for you to return to your miserable whinging ways did it ? What a moaning minnie you are. Yes, you’re right , we have weaknesses – just fewer than all the other teams below us who are not as good as us. You’re unbelieveable.

  • estechco

    Apr 29, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #19

    Strange that Alan doesn’t include West Ham or Southampton in his former clubs that have done well this year?

  • JP...from The Rock

    Apr 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #20

    estechco – that is strange well spotted. Pardew has been a miracle worker. I won the bet I did way back in September thanks to him. I bet we would finish in the top 6 yet he has overachieved even my poitive expectations as he has us fighting for CHAMPIONS LEAGUE! I still can’t believe how well we’ve done.

    I was hurt bad by yesterdays defeat as I too like the players was starting to get cocky about our ability. We lacked all the qualities that took us to where we are now in last night’s game. It was a blip and I think a well timed one as we will be better prepared for Chelski.

    Pardew if you get us into the Champions League the city should do a statue for your tremendous achievement.

    Statue for Pardew 🙂

  • chuck

    Apr 29, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #21

    Pardew ?
    Guys a poor manager 42% win ratio is unacceptable.
    His 90’s style tactics are apparent tp everyone by now.
    And Saturdays thrashing by a side fighting for survival sez it all.
    Stricktly a case of bullshit baffles brains, this club if it’s to have any success needs a manager who understands the modern game, and that aint AP.

  • JP...from The Rock

    Apr 29, 2012 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #22

    Chuck – You MUST BE joking. Either that or you’re one of the most unappreciative and saddest ‘fans’ I have ever come across.

  • davis_toons

    Apr 29, 2012 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #23

    @3- “Even Kevin Keegan Wouln’t have been able to get us were we are today.”

    That’s hard to say..we might even be better..

  • JP...from The Rock

    Apr 29, 2012 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #24

    At the end of the day after the brilliant job Alan Pardew has done just look at the mangers we are comparing him to. It speaks volumes of the huge improvement he has made in such a short tenure at the club. He has exceeded EVERYONE’S expectations, brilliant work and superb handling of extremely difficult situations eg. selling of Carroll, Enrique, HBA ect.

    Long Live Pardew- we need the stability and he’s doing much more than just that!

  • sully

    Apr 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #25

    No hes not underperformed at all, very dissapointed with the loss yesterday but that happens, we had an off day, no need to doubt APs tactics, if it wasnt for his tactics we wouldnt be 4th. We should be buzzing with getting into the europa league, anything else is great, people should stop being the typical toon fan and getting way ahead of themselves, this team is capable of beating anyone in this league, and chelsea on wednesday. Get behind the team, AP knows what hes doing

  • sully

    Apr 29, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #26

    Chuck? Well if 90s tactics get us to 4th spot at thid stage of the season, then i think the majority of people will be using 90s tactics. And the 90s was where all the great football Was being played, especially in the toon. Be quiet u mong

  • nico

    Apr 29, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    Comment #27

    @ Chuck. What a daft thing to say. Fergie wouldn’t have been able to do this well with our squad. Pardew has surely got to win Manager of the Year.

  • Gascoigne - Legend

    Apr 29, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    Comment #28

    Alan Pardew under performing at NUFC ? What a ridiculous heading.
    Alan has done a fantastic job and those that think different need their heads testing!!!

  • AndyMac

    Apr 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #29

    sully says
    “Get behind the team, AP knows what hes doing”

    You sure about that sully ? We’re talking about a bloke who after going two goals down at Wigan, chose to go three at the back with Simmo in central defence and we promptly shipped in another two 🙂

    As I said yesterday, there was plenty of evidence about how Wigan have started to play since their narrow loss at Chelski. However it would appear that Pardwho chose to ignore all of it and go with his usual line up and formation. 🙁

  • LooneyToon41

    Apr 30, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #30

    I think Rich @1 and Gascoigne @28 summed things up very well.
    As for all the ‘Moses, Di Santo etc really good players!’ , Where have they been over the last 6 months??
    Congrats to Wigan, they were excellent on the day.
    Move on. Even Ferguson admitted Wigan were the better side when ManU lost…


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