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Only A Monumental Offer Will See Cisse Leave Newcastle

9:09 am, Friday, May 4th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 23 Comments

We know there was some concern from Newcastle fans in our article of yesterday that the club could sell Papiss Cisse in the summer.

Newcastle’s two terrific strikers – long may they stay on Tyneside

That possibility was put out by former Chairman Freddy Shepherd, who stated that he thought Newcastle would get an offer in the summer they just couldn’t refuse from one of the big clubs,  for the Newcastle number 9.

Maybe that would come from Manchester City, if they cannot get Robin van Persie to the Etihad Stadium, with their reported £40M bid.

Just a thought here – when are Manchester City going to be forced to balance their books and stop spending ridiculous amounts on transfer fees?

After all, they made a loss of £197M in their last financial year and the Financial Fair Play rules are meant to stop this kind of outlandish spending.

Back to Cisse - and the lad is not a bad signing for Newcastle at £8M – but it’s about par for Newcastle these days.

And how much is Papiss worth now – at least £40M we would estimate.

Papiss cost more than Demba Ba, who cost Newcastle around £2M in agent’s fees, and came as a “free transfer”  from West Ham United,  and some of  Newcastle’s transfers recently have been  remarkable,  to say the least.

And we don’t think Mike Ashley will sell him unless a really monumental offer comes in.

Mike will want Newcastle in the Champions League in future seasons – he’s not daft – and there’s big money to be made in Europe’s top league.

This is the kind of mony the four English clubs are likely to make this season from the European Champions League - courtesy of  that great financial football site – The Swiss Ramble.

While Mike Ashley had a tough time at Newcastle in his first two years on Tyneside, with the club ending up relegated in May, 2009 – Newcastle have since come roaring back in great style.

And we are now challenging for a European Champions League position, which was part of Ashley’s initial five year plan for Newcastle.  This is what Geordie fans have been dreaming of since Freddy Shepherd sacked Bobby Robson in 2004, and started the Newcastle decline.

And while it’s always possible that Papiss Cisse could be sold – we don’t think he will be going anywhere in the summer, but we do expect Newcastle to give Papiss a new deal on Tyneside, he’s earned every penny of it since early February.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Contracts · Demba Ba · European Champions League · Financials · Newcastle News · Papiss Cisse · Transfer News and Rumours



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23 responses so far ↓

  • 1 bills-son // May 4, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    It will take £50M for Ashley to even think of selling Cisse.

    We aren’t a selling club – as other clubs and our fans will find this summer.

    Hail to Ashley – the best owner on NUFC in my 50 years as a Toon supporter.

  • 2 davybtoon // May 4, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Pointless story he ain’t going anywhere it’s getting abit stupid now the way ppl are goin acting like we jus sell straight get grip man tiote been here 4 windows n ain’t been sold

  • 3 magpie6699 // May 4, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    From previous post – I also cannot understand people having mixed feelings about IF we beat Citeh on Sunday. I think our chances are slim but I will be ecstatic if we do well against them and I am looking forward to giving the lads a rousing send-off whatever the result. I don’t like Manure but I detest Citeh now having previously felt a little bit for them. Their spending and wages have made a mockery of football – is there any player under £15 million who plays outfield for them? And £200K a week for Yaya Toure – obscene.
    Don’t worry if we beat them and they don’t win the league – they can always buy it again next year!

  • 4 davybtoon // May 4, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    Ba is the only big player likely to leave this summer IMO That’s only bcoz of this clause which no one confirms exists

  • 5 JDdubai // May 4, 2012 at 9:20 AM

    Everyone has a price but like stated it will be 40 mill plus for Cisse and I cant see anyone really paying that based on 12 games. If he keeps going next season then it may be different but thats a long way off.

    Tiote is a bigger risk this summer, think Chelski will fancy him even more after wednesday sadly, Id love us to keep this team together for at least 1 full season just to see how well we can do.

  • 6 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // May 4, 2012 at 9:22 AM

    I agree I also think IF IF anybody is to leave it would be Ba but again for hideously ridiculous money…

    But my heart somehow tells me he will stay I want him to score a goal so badly!!!

  • 7 Nick 69 // May 4, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    not commented on here for a long time, but getting kinda sick of getting up each morning to read stories about our players leaving that are completely made up. Why do you have to put out negative stuff all the time?

    End of the day, there’s only probably 3 teams who’d pay the silly money it would take to get Cisse in the Prem. City, Chelsea, and maybe Liverpool. But why would he even want to leave for Chelsea or Liverpool, who we are above in the league, and City will probably go for a bigger name like Van Persie

  • 8 jamesnufc86 // May 4, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    He won’t leave , he’s loving his football , if your scoring for fun at the place you are it must make you extremely happy , the only players I can see leaving are Guthrie , loverman , Best , Xisco , maybe even Sumpson , all replaced with potential

  • 9 cyprus // May 4, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Freddy just being sour grapes, Mike proving a better owner.
    Sky reporting Henry’s goal as best PL goal of all time… don’t you want to shout at voters, ‘wait, first check out Cisse goal!’ Honestly, just saw Henry strike and it looks tame compared to BOTH Cisse’s goals!

  • 10 JP...from The Rock // May 4, 2012 at 9:33 AM

    What’s this impulse on you Ed to suggest the club should offer any player a new contract after just a handful of matches?? We have no idea what he’s already getting but he sure is earning it already. He may already be earning a fortune. We have no idea but what I do know is if he was to don the famous number nine shirt then we knew what we were getting and he must be on huge wages already.

    We should not fall in to the trap of offering much improved contracts after just a few months because it could spiral out of control and other players might feel unappreciated. It could easily ruin our fantastic team morale and our clubs wage bill.

  • 11 Nick 69 // May 4, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    JP – agreed, every time someone had a good run of form its reported on ehre that he needs a new bumper contract. Mike Ashley aint in the business of throwing big contracts at people willy nilly, especially people who’ve recently signed one. He signed a contract he was HAPPY with in January so why change it now, why shouldn’t he still be happy with it?

  • 12 brighter // May 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM

    To talk about a selling is NONSENSE despite we coming back in great style at the monent.

  • 13 Papiss9 // May 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM

    People talking about newcastle as a selling club is just bullshit.. The club is stable with a solid financial structure. Everyone would sell Caroll for 35 millions.

    The commentators at chelsea vs newcastle talked about how good tiote is, and that newcastle might get 3 or 4 times of what they paid for him if they sell in the summer.. 3,5 times 4 = 14 million.

    NO WAY we’re selling for that kind of money. Mascherano was sold for about 30 millions and i rate tiote higher than him. Can’t wait for the summer when everyone has to take us serious. tired of all the crap, andy cole said in january that ashley probably would sell if we get 10 millions for tiote.

  • 14 nightfa11 // May 4, 2012 at 9:57 AM

    i dont see newcastle selling his number 9 after a few months.. its no.9 ffs… he wouldnt have signed for us & take that number (also club wouldnt gave him no.9) if they planned to sell him after less then half a year.. especailly after pardews speech how special no.9 is etc..

  • 15 bmdspencer // May 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    I think it’s been quite proven by Andy Carroll that half a season scoring loads of goals doesn’t warrant a £35m price tag nor does it mean someone is going to put the ball in the back of the net season after season.

    Cisse needs time for sure, this will be the perfect club to do it at, especially if we are playing Champions League football next season :)

  • 16 Lee Dodd // May 4, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    How is it Mike Ashley is Now a God ???? We hated the Guy last season and the season before . He has signed a striker and that makes him god ???? Yes the Team is really good now but we have to show on sunday we can play the best and win. The Likes of Danny Simpson and Jonas Need to Get a Grip as They will be shipped out in the summer if any bids come in. We need 3 new quality defenders a few midfielders and a new striker as Peter Lovenkrands will be of to Birmingham.. Best IS Not the guy we need . Shola is an awsome impact Sub. Sundays result is out Most important for Donkeys years just hope we get the cheque book out in the summer. 2 Signings already more to come…

  • 17 NotAGhostToon // May 4, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    Lee, I think that people have the benefit of hindsight now. For example was selling Carroll and replacing him with Ba AND Cisse a bad move? No, it was possibly the best bit of business imaginable, around 23m profit plus two prolific strikers. Similarly (I know tiote came in earlier) but replacing Nolan and Barton with Tiote and Cabaye was also brilliant business. People have realised that in a lot of cases they were wrong to criticize. I berated him with the whole Keegan saga but I was pretty quick on the uptake to realise there was a plan in place and now other people are seeing it too.

  • 18 RemoteToon // May 4, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    People say we are a selling club because we sold Carroll for a lot of money. The real point is we sold Carroll for a hell of a lot MORE THAN HE WAS WORTH. Old Redknapp was in the market for him at about £18 reportedly. Harry is not a bad judge of footballing talent, and that was probably about right for Carroll. But that was very firmly turned down. It was not until Liverpool offered damn near DOUBLE that, that Ashley said “let’s do it”.

    I think if someone came in and offered double the worth of pretty much any player, Mike Ashley might well sell.

    But if someone wants to pay the true value, I simply can’t see him being even vaguely interested. Just as he wasdn’t even vaguely interested in selling Andy Carroll until the price got ridiculous.

  • 19 blew // May 4, 2012 at 2:16 PM

    Man joined the club in January and states he loves the place and is happy. Why are we talking about him leaving ? ZZZZZZZZZZ Boring journalism

  • 20 bills-son // May 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    Lee Dodd @ 16 – No, Ashley hasn’t just signed a striker, he’s brought in a scouting plan that has brought in Tiote, Cabaye, HBA, Santon, Abeid, Marveaux, Obertan, Ba and Cisse for £5M LESS than what he stuffed LFool for Carroll.

    He’s also signed a manager who is streets ahead of Hughton (as decent as he was) and he has stamped his professional business strategy into the who club from the tealady upwards.

    Regular readers of this blog know that I have been saying for over a year that Ashley is the best owner of NUFC in my 50 years as a supporter. Every decision over the past 2 years – apart from renaming the ground – that Ashley was slagged off mercilessly for at the time has been proved to be the correct decision.

    Its great to see that the majority of fans on this blog have big enough balls to stand up and give Ashley credit for the fantastic job that he has done in making our club serious Champs Lge challengers and – just as good – no longer the Geordie whipping boys for the southern tabloid press.

    What I really, really, admire about Ashley is that he has never gone bleating to the press about how the fans don’t understand him, don’t appreciate him, how much money he has put into the club etc. Many owners would have done that. Ashley has just let the team and Pardew do the talking and never once criticised the fans despite the horrific personal abuse he taken.

    That is the sign of a class bloke.

  • 21 cupiddstunt // May 4, 2012 at 5:09 PM

    Lee Dodd @ # 16

    I like the cheek of using the all encompassing “we” just who is involved in this “we” as I have never hated MA.

    So climb down off your high horse and think a bit more before hitting the keys.

  • 22 stuart no9 // May 4, 2012 at 5:35 PM

    billson @ 1 – if we are not a selling club, then why are we having this debate? of course we are a selling club. You even stated it will take 50M to temp ash, so does that not make us a selling club? now- if ash came out and said – he is not available at any price, i may believe you, but as it is, sorry, we are a selling club. When the board come out and say ” every player has his price” we are a selling club. Take a leaf out of spurs book on the modric affair ” he is NOT FOR SALE AT ANY PRICE” That is the way to run a club going into europe

  • 23 serene0380 // May 5, 2012 at 2:00 AM

    Totally agreed on No.10 post. rdgs wages




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