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Liverpool To Follow Newcastle’s Thrifty Ways

10:40 am, Friday, May 11th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 31 Comments

Kenny Dalglish said yesterday that the Liverpool American owners, led by John W Henry,  will not give him much money  to spend on new players in the summer.

John Henry doesn’t look happy with Kenny, after FA Cup Final defeat

And only last month Liverpool sacked their Director of Football,  Damien Comolli,  after the club’s owners, Fenway Sports Group, reviewed the failure of the club in the transfer market, since they took over.

Lots of their players that were brought in over Dalglish’s latest tenure at the club,  like Andy Carroll, Jordan Henderson, Stewart Downing and Charlie Adam, to name but four, have not looked good value for the money paid out.

The £116M Kenny has spent in the last 16 months or so, has done nothing for Liverpool, who are 8th top of the league with only 52 points – 13 points behind the Magpies.

It seems the way Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias have built up Newcastle, will now be copied by some other clubs in the Premier League.

John Henry is reported not be happy with the way the club seem to have wasted money, and after the FA Cup final it was noticeable that John W Henry looked straight ahead as Kenny Dalglish passed by,  and there was no hand-shake between the two men, which is customary after the FA Cup Final.

That photo is shown above,  and it was picked up by the media, and was shown in the Liverpool Echo after the Cup Final.

Maybe John would have shaken Kenny’s hand if they had won, but it seems Liverpool will be on the lookout for free agents and the like this summer.

And of course there’s still time for their players to make it at the club, and Andy Carroll has looked good in the month or so,  and was great when brought on in the FA Cup Final adn Jordan henderson probabaly needs ot be used in his best position – centl midfiled and not on the wing.

We remember  when Kenny brought in Gary Speed in 1998 to Newcastle, just before Kenny was sacked, and he played him on the wing, and he was awful until switched to the center, where he was one of Newcastle’s best players.

In the FA Cup final big Andy  scored their goal and narrowly missed another, when the ball was close to going over the line from his header, and he probably should have had the start – in retrospect, as he can beat up on defenses and gave John Terry a rough time of it.

Things will now be a little more difficult for Newcastle in the upcoming transfer market, with other clubs also looking for bargain buys this summer.

But of course we still have some great football people at the Tyneside club – including Chief Scout Graham Carr, who has a knack of finding top young talent, which is virtually unknown.

It’s not a common skill that football people have, and while other clubs can go down the Newcastle road, it’s not that easy –  if it was then every club would have a top team that cost very little money.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours

31 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Indian Magpie // May 11, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    Form is temporary class is permanent :)

  • 2 cyprus // May 11, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    We also need a marque signing, in the 10 mil. neighbourhood, like Cisse. Such moves not only bring immediate success (see Cisse), but they also catch the attention of other players. e.g. HBA kick-started the new French revolution.

  • 3 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // May 11, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    After their expenditure they’ll need to not spend a penny for about 5 years to be considered “thrifty”. However, I would expect their expensive signings to come good at some point….question is when?

  • 4 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // May 11, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Cyprus…Marque signing aren’t guaranteed to bring immediate success (look at Liverpool). Although, I trust Carr a lot more to bring the right players. The way Cisse has taken to the league is nothing short of spectacular, so we need to be careful not to hold all new signings to this standard he has set, it’s not reasonable and will just pile pressure on them imo.

    Indian…agreed 100%

  • 5 Ben3arfa // May 11, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Liverpool eh , theyve gone from buying our players to following the way we do business .. Muppets

  • 6 WWJBD // May 11, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    I disagree tbh even Cisse wasent a marwue signing in this days market he was cheap for a striker

    Personally am not overly bothered how much we pay for a player and I dont think our current squad will be either none of them were huge transfer deals and they see in their own ability how good they are so I doubt they judge others on the amount we bought them for

  • 7 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // May 11, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Response from last thread..

    Tsunki – I would imagine with signing “crocks” some will come good, some wont. Overall we should see value for money and will cut our losses with the ones who don’t make it

  • 8 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // May 11, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    I feel it should be pointed out though that this “business model” we’re using isn’t original, but it sure has been executed well by the board, scouts and management.

  • 9 Tsunki // May 11, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Ibiza – I think thats the thing – buying wholesale means there may be wastage, but keep the good stuff. Sounds cynical, but perhaps players whose careers are in jeapardy due to recurrent injury will be glad of the chance. I think it’s a no-risk policy providing you dont pay over the odds, either in fees or treatment.

  • 10 cyprus // May 11, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Agreed with above. The thing is, cheap players are cheap for a reason… luck and good scouting can do the trick sometimes and long may it last. But, realistically, to go to the next level, to solidify our position, we’ll need v.good new players. We won’t be a surprise outfit next year.

  • 11 dbeeio(The poster formely known as KissMyAss) // May 11, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    I’ve never really liked Messi that much no wonder he’s being labelled a racist

  • 12 magpie6699 // May 11, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    2 points:
    1 – imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
    2 If big spenders are going to be cutting their cloth, there’s less likelihood of us losing our stars (for ridiculous fees).

  • 13 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // May 11, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Tsunki…Exactly. Playing the odds game….never would of though of Ashley as the gambling type! :)

    Cyprus…I would say HBA, Cisse, Cabaye, Santon etc are exactly the type of players to take us to the next level. Each cost between £5 – 10m approx. Really don’t see why we would spend £10 – 15m+, unless it was for something really really special

  • 14 thepict // May 11, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    I think our ex no 9 may have turned the corner at Anfield. He was mom on Tuesday night.

  • 15 WWJBD // May 11, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Mate I think ur p***ing in the wind because I doubt MA will green light any move of over 10mill for a player

    And I cant argue too much with that. Fee rises so does wage demands and pay offs to get the deal done.

    Also we have gotten very good players for small fees already so we dont need to buy big we can buy out in the cold players, players with attitude problems and injured players who have something to prove

  • 16 cyprus // May 11, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    I agree there, that’s what I meant. Arguably, HBA, Cabaye, even Tiote were already stars when they came over. It’s just that 2nd division players probably won’t be PL stars immediately, though I hope so.

  • 17 Tsunki // May 11, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    thepict – yep but in a tea not built for him, evidently.

    I think the sheer attraction of coming to a forward-looking outfit like NUFC is worth millions in bargaining power to Ashley now. Players can see the opportunities. I don’t care if we’re the next Iniesta’s shop window, do you? It’s all gravy.

  • 18 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // May 11, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    I see…well, we need some depth, so a few lower league unknowns will be a good addition imo. I would hope all the incomings aren’t lower league players

  • 19 Tsunki // May 11, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    cyprus – amalfitano was a 2nd div star up until the other day 😉

  • 20 Tsunki // May 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM

    @17 – *team

  • 21 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // May 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM


  • 22 Tsunki // May 11, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    yeah it was from a crap song some years back. Still dont know what they were talking about ha ha.

  • 23 OoAhDembaBa // May 11, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Rodallega and Diame apparently confirmed leaving Wigan. Why not snap up Diame

  • 24 cyprus // May 11, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Just saying, remember,
    many bloggers here said we’d never pay 10 mil for a player, we did, and who’s to argue with that move. That’s all I meant really. I’m all for bargains myself, swapped a S80 for a Kia Sportage! Runs like a Cabaye, not quite the HBA dribble though…

  • 25 dannyboy // May 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    i think every other teams supporters in the EPL hate liverpool,theres something hateful about them. D**K Daglish does them no favours, from day 1 he has never learnt how to control the english media(which can make a big difference in all aspects) but thats completely opposite compared to Padrews wonderland. signing henderson and downing was a absoulute joke, 2 average players at best. I hate to say it but i think carrol will come good,very good at that. hes a unplayable beast on his day who creates a ridiculous amount of oppurtunities for other teammates,and jose has already proven his worth even tho hes droped his standard recently. its so funny how there going to try copy are system , itl never work for them. they were even sniffing around captain colo. i hate pool even b4 they tried to steal are whole team. there a biggest rivals now i think.

  • 26 WWJBD // May 11, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Honestly I would rather take Rodallega than Diame

  • 27 CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon) // May 11, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Cyrpus…Don’t get me wrong…all up for £10m+ players coming in, just don’t think it’s “needed” or a dead cert.

  • 28 davis_toons // May 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    Pools is very good on their sales all over the world .. so in no time their losses will be covered by their revenue.

    Asia is where MA should also consider looking at to makeup his sales

  • 29 Owldman // May 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    I blogged a few weeks ago that John Henry had told Dogshite that he had to get rid pf of players before there was money available to buy new ones Comoli took the blame Dogshite buys he told Comoli who he wanted now we all know what happened.Livershit were bounced into buying Carroll after they lost Torres,They sold quality and bought crap,Alonso & Mascherano spring to mind ,now from apart from a couple of players Liverpool are nothing special.As two former managers have said winning cups isnt enough for Liverpool the fans think they have a God given right to win the Premiership & be in the Champions League every season,they can no longer match the buying power of Man City,Chelsea ,Man Utd & even Spurs the Yanks arnt daft with their money & want big return on their investment.I think its the dole soon for the Kops blue eyed boy Kenny.

  • 30 toonincheek // May 11, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Owldman –
    Couldn’t happen to a better guy!

  • 31 Owldman // May 11, 2012 at 1:36 PM

    Our lollipop lady is retiring soon wonder if he could manage that ! nah i dont think so Probably make a balls up like he does with everything else

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