Don’t Sign Any More African Players In The Summer


One thing we don’t want to see this summer is for Newcastle to be signing African players.

Newcastle’s two Senegal strikers – number 19 and 9

That’s because with the African Cup of Nations taking place every two years, Newcastle will lose their African players as we did last January and February, and we were lucky that Senegal didn’t make the knockout rounds.

But Cheick Tiote did make the final for the Ivory Coast last February and he was missing almost two months.

We don’t know why it is, but African football  continues to have their tournaments every two years,  rather than every four years as is more usual, and the answer we get is the tournament is important, as it helps develop African football.

However, African football has developed fantastically over the last ten years or so,  and you wonder if it’s still necessary.  It’s a big strain on clubs like Newcastle, who have three top African players in Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse and Cheick Tiote.

Alan Pardew had this to say today to the local press about his African threesome:

“I think we’re going to have to look at Demba,  Papiss and Cheick. They’ve got African Nations. We’ve got Europa League.”  “We’ve got a much more difficult season next season.”

It’s also possible that both Senegal strikers could be selected for the Olympic games, so the scheduling of their playing over the summer with World Cup game also taking place, could be difficult.

And certainly Alan Pardew doesn’t want them to burn out before next season even starts.

With Newcastle having extra games in the Europa League next season,  it means the scheduling of the African threesome could become very difficult for the manager early in the new year.

And we’ll also have to make sure we have enough cover in January,  when the three players will be leaving for the African Cup of Nations (AFON).

We’d love to see the AFON move to be a tournament that takes place every four years, but there seem precious chance of that happening any time soon.

But the bottom line is that three top African players is enough for Newcastle right now.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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23 comments so far

  • duncandisorderly

    May 17, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #1

    616 – the number of the beast!

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  • JTOONJ

    May 17, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #2

    I like africans i also like brazillians

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  • supatoonkid

    May 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #3

    RB: Mathieu Debuchy: £6.5M
    CB/RB/LB/CDM: Mapou Yanga Mbiwa £6.5M
    CM: Mavin Martin: £8M
    RWF: Junior Hoilett: Free
    CF: Jordan Rhodes: £5M (If we cannot get him for this then look at others)
    Total: £26M-£28M
    Reserves: Lot of bright new talent like Raheem Hanley
    SORTED!!

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  • supatoonkid

    May 17, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #4

    Also what’s everyones opinions on Steven Whittaker at Rangers who is available for £2M, Worth a Look or Not as we all know Scottish football is far from the best?

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  • BenbulbenMag

    May 17, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #5

    I agree. We lose key members of the squad at a key time in the season.

    I wouldn’t be advocating signing any more players who will potentially be playing in the Olympics and ACN

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 17, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #6

    Very short sighted title that Ed.

    Where would we be without Ba, Cisse and Tiote?

    It’s something we have to with for 6 weeks every 2 years.
    Next year is a one off

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  • supatoonkid

    May 17, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #7

    oh shit lads i meant to say Steven Naismith at Rangers not Whittaker, OPINIONS? oh what’s people’s views on Steven Fletcher & Matt Jarvis?

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  • 09nufc09

    May 17, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #8

    i would rather have a hard working african for 3/4 of the season than a overrated/overpriced englishman for the full season.

    supatoonkid… stay well clear of the spl, forster was shocking for us in pre season then goes up there and keeps record clean sheets, plus hes too old i think? wanyama at celtic looked decent the few times ive seen him play.

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  • Tsunki

    May 17, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #9

    Not short sighted actually, just a factual observation imo.

    Just thinking out loud but what if the idea is for us to offload Ba now his purpose has been served – a high-risk medical uncertainty that paid off in a time of desperate need. It may have been the plan since the day we signed him to replace him and then when Cisse came in his fate was sealed. Cisse was slotted straight into Ba’s position without so much as a by your leave. It’s imperative that our main strikers not be away TOGETHER for ANY length of time in what will be a busy season. If it was an injury sidelining one of them for 6 weeks we would be wailing, what with european matches and the hopes of cup runs next year. We must get a non-African pair for next year.

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  • alec6247toon

    May 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #10

    naismith is about 24/25. I think that the spl has to be avoided, just not good enough. What we need to concentrate on this summer is building up the squad numbers, by bringing in at least 4/5 people and replacing anyone that leaves. If they are african players then fine, but we would need another squad player who could come in and do a job when they are away at ACON

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  • LooneyToon41

    May 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #11

    @6 Rotonda, @8 09NUFC09. Agree with you both. Ed, you’re off the mark. The ACON is certainly unfortunate, but the overall picture is more important.
    @9 Tsunki, ideally we should try and sign players who are fully available to us, but we must NOT alienate the other option. But i do take your point, we need another Striker option.
    I wonder if any club would not want Yaya Toure…

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  • Geordie by the grace of God

    May 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #12

    @10

    Sure, for the most part the SPL isn’t good enough.
    But look at Jelavic.
    There are a few gems to be had. It just takes the right kind of scouting – something our boys seem to be pretty good at.
    I’d like Carr to have a look at Sone Aluko.

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  • clinta

    May 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #13

    The main reason ACON is on every two years is probably due to cash, like most things in this world. If they have it every two years they make a lot more money, so can’t see it changing. Definitely does less the value of the thing though, and 3 ACONs in 4 years pfft!

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  • Geordie by the grace of God

    May 17, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #14

    In relation to my previous post, he’s only 23 and doesn’t just score against SPL teams. He can put a sublime finish past Bayern Munich too…. playing for Aberdeen!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOKVz2_fMHQ

    This is the sort of thing Cissé did – playing good football at a team that otherwise doesn’t. Not that he bears comparison, but I think with Rangers’ financial situation we should pounce for this fella.

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  • David

    May 17, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #15

    The ACoN this time round has forced Demba Ba to come back a different player.

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  • supatoonkid

    May 17, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #16

    @14 Aluko doesn’t look bad but he plays for Nigeria so not exactly the best place to sign players from when in ACON but Victor Wanyama looks good, he’s Kenyan but they struggle to get into ACON as they have that lad at Inter & Wanyama but not many more quality assets

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  • Visten

    May 17, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #17

    Lets be brutal, the game winner in negotiations to bring Cisse here was ‘oh you do know your mate plays don’t you?’ If Ba leaves will that effect Papiss game it is a worrying thought. That is why we talk about Debuchy being good mates with the dreamboat, yes they are professional and get paid to do a job but don’t underestimate the power of friendship especially whilst doing battle on the pitch (you have my back I have yours).

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  • Brutooon

    May 17, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #18

    09nufc09 // May 17, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    i would rather have a hard working african for 3/4 of the season than a overrated/overpriced englishman for the full season.

    100 perent agreed

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  • barkerslovesnufc

    May 17, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #19

    We won’t get marvin Martin, Lyon have put a bid in I read….

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  • Geordie by the grace of God

    May 17, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #20

    @16

    So does Shola. Doesn’t mean he will A. get a game for the national team B. be away for long (the Nigeria side isn’t great).

    Plus he was born in England so I think his priorities might be a little different as far as the league is concerned.

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  • CODARM (The poster formely known as Ibizatoon)

    May 17, 2012 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #21

    Guys…I don’t think Ed’s having a pop at Africans or questioning talent etc, so using Yaya as an example is silly. Of course any club would want him.

    I think Ed’s point is we already have 3 players who we will lose to the African Cup, so do we want to buy more quality we’ll lose? Let’s not pretend we didn’t miss Ba and Tiote (remember we didn’t have cisse yet), so let’s say we get another 1 or 2 great African players in, come January we’ll be down 5.

    Article title sounds fair enough imo

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  • Troleibusiukas_LTU

    May 17, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #22

    IMO Rodriguez is much better then Rhodes. We should try to get: 1.Rodriguez, 2. De Jong or Dost, 3. Hoillet or Cabral or Johnson, 4 Martin or Corgnet or Maher or Siem De Jong
    5. Debouchy,
    6. Mapou if plausible (Pieters or Boisen if not), and 7.quallity defender maybe Alder… what ever he is… That’s my Seven players in. I would make it 8, but diame is african.. (That’s pitty).. Out: Ranger, Loverkrands, Best, Simpson, Guthrie, Smith, Xisco if plausible that 6-7 out. That would beperfect. We could attack all fronts. I know it’s not going to happen, but on the other hand your young prospect will have some chance to step up more. (Fergie, Abeid, Vukcic, Tavernier, Dummet, Streete)

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  • Toon Tang

    May 17, 2012 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #23

    to the untrained eye, the heading and subheading to this article sound racist as hell hahaha

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