Newcastle Take A Step Back On Brazilian Defender


FC Twente defender Douglas is one of Newcastle’s transfer targets this summer.

FC Twente’s Douglas – deal becoming complicated

And the Tyneside club are trying to do a deal for the 6’4″ Brazilian, whose contract runs out at the end of June, but it seems that Newcastle are starting to get a little tired of at least a couple of complications with the possible deal.

The first is that there is some confusion with a clause in his contract which says that Twente can keep him at the Dutch club for another year, and therefore he would not become a free agent this summer.

The other thing – which Newcastle don’t like to deal with at any time – is that he has multiple agents representing him, and this not only complicates negotiations but can slow things down a lot.

The 24-year-old has interested Newcastle for at least a year,  and Newcastle were hoping they could do a quick deal to tie him up early in the summer.

And news is that he is very keen to join Newcastle, who have had great world-wide publicity this season for their exploits in the Premier League, and the Magpies  finished in 5th place to grab a Europa League position for next season.

There’s also every indication that Alan Pardew and the Newcastle Board are determined to increase and strengthen the squad for next season.

Newcastle are taking a step back on Douglas, because there are other targets who may be easier for Newcastle to bring to Tyneside.

And one of our favorites is Montpellier captain Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, who has been called into the provisional France squad for Euro 2012, and also Toby Alderweireld of Ajax, who partners Jan Vertonghen in central defense for the Dutch Champions, and he could also be a very good buy.

PSV Eindhoven’s Holland defender Erik Pieters is another target,  and Newcastle are looking for a defender who can play across the back four, and both Pieters and Yanga-Mbiwa can do that.

Erik Pieters or Yanga-Mbiawa  would therefore appear to be decent buys,  if only because they are flexible and can play in multiple positions at the back, and both would cost around £6M or thereabouts.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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71 comments so far

  • Graeme

    May 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #1

    At 6′ 4″ with good feet, great heading ability, this guy would be awesome alongside Colo. He would bring much needed bite into the back four and would also be great in the opposite penalty area for free kicks, corners etc.

    Would be good to see him at Toon, but, Carr and Perdeau will get the best deal for the club I guess!!

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  • lewytoon

    May 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #2

    if he’s keen to come then he’ll sort it out with his agents

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  • lewytoon

    May 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #3

    ins:
    pieters
    douglas
    fryers
    amafilamto
    martin
    corgnet
    de jong

    out:
    simpson
    guthrie
    best
    lovenkrands
    gosling
    BA

    ——————krul————————-
    santon—colo—taylor/douglas—pieters-
    —-martin—-tiote———cabaye———
    —HBA———————De Jong——–
    —————-cisse————————–

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  • Graeme

    May 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #4

    Ed, any of the four you mention for the back four would be an improvement on last season. Santoon is a natural RB, who plays LB so bringing in a natural left footed LB would not be a problem.

    Pieters can cover both FB and CB

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  • lewytoon

    May 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #5

    the team and transfers above would be perfect

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  • tarie4

    May 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #6

    Graeme

    Santon is a natural left back, who has a right foot….
    Yes he can play rb, but he is first and fore-most a left back..

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  • tarie4

    May 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #7

    lewytoon

    dejong like Ba and Cisse is an out and out striker, just like Ba he would be shit at that left forward position,

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    May 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #8

    Don’t mess about with players and their agents, give them a deadline and move on if compications arise.
    My choice would be M’biwa and Debuchy because they can play in different positions but l am sure our recruitment policy is spot on and those that come to the club will be the best options.

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  • lewytoon

    May 17, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #9

    u reckon cisse could play lw then?

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  • lewytoon

    May 17, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #10

    oh yeah, id have either pieters or debuchy, santon has to be in the team though

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 17, 2012 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #11

    Much prefer M’Biwa over Pieters. Far quicker and more mobile.

    Off topic, although Pardew has done fantastically well, I would be a bit jealouus of anyone who gets Martinez as manager. The guy is superb and never compromised his principles to keep trying to play good football even with some very limited players.

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  • tarie4

    May 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #12

    lewytoon

    He would just be a waste there…
    We need to find a player who can compliment ben arfa, marveaux could do a job there

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #13

    tarie 4

    You’re right getting de Jing to replace Ba doesn’t solve the problem. He would just get in Cisse’s way as he is a natural striker.

    We have Benny and Marveux to play either side of Cisse. Cisse and Ba should be rotated with so many games to play next season. Cisse and Ba doesn’t work at international level either. It has to be one or the other with one coming off the bench as a very strong sub.

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  • barkerslovesnufc

    May 17, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #14

    I would like to get shearer bk out if retirement…. I want us to get Rhodes n give him a chance

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  • tarie4

    May 17, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #15

    Rotonda heights

    Martinez is a brilliant manager, so too Rodgers and Lambert, but they would be perfect mangers for us, Fulham etc, as their next step.. Not Liverpool and the likes, as I said earlier on, its ok to lose 3 and draw for in a row, if U manage Wigan, stoke etc, it is very different if U do that with bigger teams, besides the press would be all over you, good managers yes, but I think Martinez should go to villa and then from there too a top team.

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  • only magpie of nepal

    May 17, 2012 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #16

    Santon is naturally right footed player but he has always preferred to play on left because he feels far more comfortable cutting inside the full backs from left rather than going outside and crossing from right. And when he cuts inside the full-back from left he makes most damage. So I will always keep Santon on right.
    but definitely won’t mind bringing in a naturally left footed Left back like Pieters who can cover CB.

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  • Tsunki

    May 17, 2012 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #17

    lewy – at the start of the season I called for giving santon a start at RB but as the season has gone on I have come to to accept that Pards knows where he needs to be. So Santon at LB.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    May 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #18

    If anyone can operate on Erik Pieters and replace his crocked foot! Then okay! But i have never been a Pieters Fan and think he will spend more time in Phsio-therapy with than being on the Pitch!

    If Twente are digging in and being difficult about Douglas then we need to move on and look for an alternative!
    I absolutely hate cocky football agents who stop their clients doing what they want! Douglas wants to come to us but is being hampered by his Club and his Agents!

    What i don,t want to see is, is us missing out on him only to see him sold to Chelsea or another in January! This would totally piss me off! Remember Bryan Ruiz and Fulham! What a fiasco that was!

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  • Tsunki

    May 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #19

    only magpie of nepal – “So I will always keep Santon on right”

    ?

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  • supatoonkid

    May 17, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #20

    Mbiwa is the best choice out of all above. He started as a LB, then went to RB and now plays CB but can refer back to any of those positions comfatably and also can act as a CDM. He is the quickest out of all the CBs we’ve been linked with, plays physically, is the youngest but has great leadership ability as he is Montpellier’s captain. Mbiwa, Debuchy, Martin, Rhodes & Hoilett + youngsters like Raheem Hanley for the reserves would be a very successful summer window and if we keep all the big guns.

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  • Tsunki

    May 17, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #21

    NEWEXPATMAGPIE – at the end of the day, agents are the employees of the players they represent so if they really want to go to a club they will go there, even if they have to replace their agent. If a player we are looking at ends up at chelski or citeh it’s because they want to go. And if that’s the case, we dont want him.

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  • Crow59Cdo

    May 17, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #22

    lol heard this morning that pardew is being linked with the liverpool job hahahaha

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  • Colo-Sus

    May 17, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #23

    Ins:

    Douglas – Free
    Pieters or Debuchy (we wont get both) 5-6 mil
    Corgnet – 5 mil max
    Amalfitano -Free
    De Jong (BIG BIG BIG MAYBE’S)

    Outs:
    Ba – 7 mil PSG
    Simpson – Free
    Best – 2 mil perhaps?
    Guthrie – Free
    Lovenkrands -Free
    Smith – Loan or released

    if Ba goes which I think he will, we will look at strikers but only if he goes imo. De Jong and Giroud will cost 8 mil upwards and are unrealistic in my opinion, the bulk of the money will go on Defenders. We will sign a CM i think and EITHER Debuchy or Pieters. Not Both!

    Lets be realistic, the board will be frugal and will wnat value, and I agree with them. Recruits are needed to bolster for the Europa League campaign, but we know that we wont sign players for 10 mil on a regular basis (CISSE was definately a one off as we needed a number 9)

    All this talk of Marvin Martin is utter rubbish. It wont happen lads dream on.

    I as you all know like to deal in what In my opinion are realistic theories.

    Great Season and proud to be a Geordie

    HWTL

    I think this is a realistic window for us to be honest.

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  • only magpie of nepal

    May 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #24

    @ Tsunki
    I mean to say Left. sorry for confusion

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  • supatoonkid

    May 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #25

    I really hope Martinez stays at Wigan because I hate Villa & Liverfool so wouldn’t like a nice guy like Martinez to be there as i’d dislike having to want him to do badly. I hope Martinez gets a good chance in the future but with a good club that I actually like, well atleast don’t dislike that club.

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  • tarie4

    May 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #26

    supatoonkid

    I agree with most of your targets, but Rhodes… He would not come cheap.. Say about 10-12 million and for that kind of money, we are better of looking abroad,

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  • tarie4

    May 17, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #27

    Colo-Sus

    Why is All this talk of Marvin Martin utter rubbish.??
    I think he is a realistic target.. Of not him then we can get corgnent?? (spelling)

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  • Jamesthefirst

    May 17, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #28

    You all need to get used to the fact that BA will NOT be at Newcastle next season. His Agent has been touting him to everyone for the last 6 months. He is gone, no question.

    And De Jong shouldn’t be used to play on the left, but as a back-up for Cisse, so we can actually rotate players next season.

    Our bench has let us down for years.

    The best player who we might get for the left front role would be Adam Johnson (newcastle supporter since he was a boy).

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    May 17, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #29

    Marveaux will be our wide player on the left side of a possible three pronged attack.
    Marveaux Cisse HBA

    We need flexibility in our defence so Debuchy would be good because he can play right side midfield and M’biwa can play all along the back line and in a sweeper role or in the position Tiote plays.
    The important thing is adaptability and being comfortable in various team formations.
    If we play Man City we will play a different and more defensive game than we would against a team of less talent.

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 17, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #30

    GREAT NEWS

    Steve Dawson ?@Gulasahi
    Michael Owen has NOT been offered a new contract at OT. He’s therefore available on a Bosman

    Return of the PRODIGAL SON

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  • Eyeball81

    May 17, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #31

    Think Debauchy is practically nailed on….Mbiwa would be great and as he is young would serve us well for years to come…Agree we could use Douglas as Willo doesnt seem to attack the ball in the opponents half. But if theyre (his agents) stalling and he wants to come then the decision is his….I think the current regime arent going to chase him theyll move on

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  • Toon_Tom

    May 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #32

    Lewy @3 –

    Excellent line up!

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  • supatoonkid

    May 17, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #33

    @Colo-Sus i don’t think signing Marvin Martin is unrealistic at all as come on we signed Cisse for £8M (nobody expected us to pay that much for a player) also a number players have had these big valuations when first quoted but that’s in January when they want to rip everyone off (like we did Liverfool with Carroll as if we’d sold him to them in the Summer they would of payed only £20M max as they wouldn’t be as desperate). Martin will want to leave as well and i’m sure he’d find it appealing to join Les Bleus de Toon Revolution so yeah he may not be a freebee but the club has more money to spend now we’re in Europe and we’re an even more appealing to join so i reckon we can do a deal with Sochaux at around £7-8M!

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  • Colo-Sus

    May 17, 2012 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #34

    @tarie4

    The reason its rubbish is because he is too high profile, and will cost too much money. Corgnet is realistic for me as he fits the profile of players that we sign, and in my opinion would be a better fit anyway that Martin.

    James the first

    Adam Johnson???? Do me a favour mate, although I would love LOVE to see it, it simply wont happen, he will be on Huge Wages and Citeh wont sell him for less than 10 mil IMHO. He signed a 5 year deal last year with them and will cost a fortune NO CHANCE.

    I agree on BA ,

    He is leaving NAILED ON.

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  • tarie4

    May 17, 2012 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #35

    Jamesthefirst

    Yes, Ba may leave, but do U think the fat controller would go out and buy a 13 mill pound striker to come and play second fiddle to Cisse?? Ok lets forget about fat controller, would dejong come here to play second fiddle?? I dnt think soo..

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  • Paps

    May 17, 2012 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #36

    I think this summer could be really interesting. It could go two ways: we could lose players like tiote and be unable to replace them, or we could make some really good signings and add to what is a really good squad. Let’s hope we get the latter of the two
    HWTL

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  • supatoonkid

    May 17, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #37

    @tarie4 where did you get those figures from for Rhodes mate? The highest he will cost is £5M but most likely we can get him for £3.5M (that’s his market price) but a lot of teams are interested so we need to get him here straight after the playoff final. The most unrealistic probably out of my list is Hoilett as all the Champions League teams are after him but if we miss out i’d go in for Wilfried Zaha or Ola John as both are similar players and younger so have even more potential but will cost more.

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  • Colo-Sus

    May 17, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #38

    supatoonkid

    I agree that we will have more money, but not alot more.

    The Europa league, does not mean Fortunes!

    You make a good point on the Les Bleux angle, however I feel he will end up in Europe at a big club. Dont get me worn Id love us to sign him I just think he unrealistic.

    yes we paid big money for Cisse, but we got his price down from and initially quoted 15 million to 8 million (it wasnt 10) The board look for that sort of Value, and we were in need of a Striker a number 9!

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    May 17, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #39

    Well Tsunki, thats a lot of -“IF,S”!

    I think you will find that when a player is tied down to a contract with an agent if a Player is not happy then he has to go through an extreme legal battle through attorney,s and Lawyers to move to another agent or to terminate any agreed contract!

    Depending on the contract as it stands and how its worded is important if a player is allowed to do just what he wants or not! It is a shite system which does,nt allow a player to do what he wants! Also it is very complicated! Not sure about all the Ins and Outs of it ! But it is a complete “PAIN” in the Butt! At the end of the day, we are probably right to forget signing him!

    Douglas will be sold by Twente in January next year! His Club will use the clausule in his contract which forces him to stay on at Twente for another year! I fully expect him to be sold to the Spuds or The Gooners in January with a hefty commision going to the Arsehole agents who are “Employed”! as you say by Douglas himself!

    That will be a good signing for someone in January!

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  • only magpie of nepal

    May 17, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #40

    @Jamesthefirst – 28
    SPOT ON mate. Yes, Demba is definitely leaving and honestly I don’t think he will ever have that early season form again in his career. And as far as we are concerned if we have goal machine like Cisse we don’t need him anymore. anyway, thankx for what he has done for newcastle.
    now its time to find out a genuine attacker down the left.
    Maybe like Hoilett, Jarvis etc who can create for Cisse as well as chip in with 5 to 10 goals.

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