Pardew – It’s Impossible To Finish 5th Next Season


It seems that Newcastle manager Alan Pardew is trying to lower the expectations for next season.

Alan Pardew – we cannot finish 5th next season

Alan has given an interview with the London Evening Standard last night,  where he says straight out that it will be impossible to finish 5th in the Premier League next season.

The Europa League doesn’t get Newcastle much more money into the coffers, and we’ve been surprised at how little teams make in the Europa League,  as compared to the Champions League, where it is often £30M or more.

In the Europa League if you win the whole thing,  you probably make around £5M, so there’s a huge difference, and it even seems the difference in compensation between the two European competitions will grow in the coming years.

This is some of what Alan had to say to the Standard:

“I’m hoping that I will educate our fans for next season.” “If they think we can finish fifth with a European campaign and the finances we’ve got, it’s impossible.

“I honestly believe that you need to be a bit more open with the fans. The problem some managers have is they’re not open enough.”

“This year, I’m sure we’ll say something like, ‘We’re looking for a top-eight finish, hopefully attack one of the cups and have a great run in Europe.”

“I wouldn’t say we couldn’t challenge for the top six if we got knocked out of Europe. Then we wouldn’t have those extra 13 games.”

It will be interesting to see what the official target for next season is, since it was to finish in the top half of the league this season, and we did that.

We would hope it would be to finish in the top six, even though we have the Europa League games, and that’s one reason Newcastle will need a bigger (and better)  squad for next season.

It seems that Alan is trying to cover his bases for next season, but we’ll have a good idea of how we can do when September rolls around, and we’ll see who we’ve brought in,  and who we have lost in the summer transfer window.

We are still confident about next season, and it’s even understandable that Alan Pardew wants to lower the expectations, since last season was so unbelievably good,  in almost all respects.

What do you think about this?

Comments welcome.



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31 comments so far

  • Indian Magpie

    May 23, 2012 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #1

    May as well not try then.

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  • nickfish90

    May 23, 2012 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #2

    Tranquillity Barnetta a free agent after he turns down new deal. We have been linked in the past, could be a good shout. Thoughts?

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  • cla5hb0y68

    May 23, 2012 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #3

    Wonder if those comments have come because he’s been told what his transfer budget is?

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  • nickfish90

    May 23, 2012 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #4

    Auto correct on phone, you know who I mean though, haha.

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  • redondo77

    May 23, 2012 at 8:45 AM

    Comment #5

    Indian

    Regarding allardyce, I only read from Wiki.

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  • SBergenwall

    May 23, 2012 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #6

    I think it’s a realistic target, of course I’d love a top 5 finish but with our thin squad and this being our first top half finish in the EPL I think it’s more realistic than saying that we’ll get top 5…

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 23, 2012 at 8:47 AM

    Comment #7

    Redondo,

    He was apoor manager, poor signings, No plan B

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  • jordong12

    May 23, 2012 at 8:48 AM

    Comment #8

    How old is barnetta ? Older than 26? Ive gotta say, i love our policy , hopefully we can bring in some top players !! Junior hoillett top of my list!!

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 23, 2012 at 8:48 AM

    Comment #9

    The full Transcript is available on NUFC.com.

    Good interview on a host of issues, atleast we know what to expect

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  • Colo-Sus

    May 23, 2012 at 8:49 AM

    Comment #10

    DONT START ON BARNETTA FFS

    He has been locked in the Malmaison for about three years waiting to sign apparently haha

    I think Pards is spot on there, The problem Nufc fans have always Always had is a lack of realism and Delusions of Grandeur,

    Its fantastic that we finished 5th this season, (fully deserved) but our target (rightly so) was top ten.

    With the squad (not team) we have, top 5 with Europe and cups along the way is a massive ask,

    We are not going to sign 5 or 6 players this summer NO WAY

    we will get 4 tops and fill needs hopefully. Stop talking about Vertonghen and Martin etc and lets all get back to Real life.

    We were in the Championship not long ago and we have come a long way since then but we are not an established top 5 team by a LONG stretch yet!!!!

    I think the target this season HAS to be the league cu[p, Its a guaranteed road into Europe and we NEED to win something soon! if we do that and finish top 6 then its another AWESOME SEASON.

    HWTL

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  • redondo77

    May 23, 2012 at 8:49 AM

    Comment #11

    he is trying to take some pressures off him and the team.

    I don’t really care about targets or expectations tbh, I more care on the team playing well and has winning mentality.

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 23, 2012 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #12

    Wish he had used the word Tough or difficult rather than Impossible.

    Or may be he meant

    I M POSSIBLE 🙂

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  • Tsunki

    May 23, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #13

    Impossible would be the word used at the beginning of this season too. Behind the club doors europe is the priority and mpossible is not an option. Wouldn’t pay any never no mind to it.

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  • IrishToon009

    May 23, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #14

    Very sensible talk there really by Pards!
    Would just love to win a cup, a cup and 8th place I think I would be very happy!

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  • Colo-Sus

    May 23, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #15

    INS:

    Alderwireld or Douglas
    Debuchy
    Amalfitano
    Corgnet
    Davies(maybe)
    Striker (only if we sell BA)

    Outs:
    Simpson
    Lovenkrands
    Guthrie
    Smith
    Forster

    Squad Next year:

    GK’s:

    Krul, Elliot, Alnwick, Harper

    RB & LB:

    Debuchy, Tavernier, Raylor, Santon, Pieters, Ferguson

    CB:

    Colo, Saylor, Williamson, Douglas/Alderweireld, Streete

    CM/DM:

    Cabaye, Tiote, Corgnet, Davies (??), Abeid, Vuckic, Perch.

    RM/LM:

    HBA, Jonas, Sammy, Marveaux, Obertan, Amalfitano

    ST:

    Cisse, Ba, Shola, Best and HOPEFULLY a young Striker.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 23, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #16

    Wonderful if true

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/romain-amalfitano-is-latest-french-connection-for-newcastle-7778785.html

    Such an amazing amount of difference in money between CL and EL. Such a shame we blew up in 3 out of our last 4 games. Never know when our next chance to get to the promised land will come.

    Personally I think EL will be good as we have barely seen Marveux, Tav, Fergie, Vuksic, Abeid, et al.

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  • redondo77

    May 23, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #17

    no way we will sign Davies, especially when we already have perch and raylor, and we just signed amalfitano too. we got vuckic and abeid too.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 23, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #18

    Colo-sus

    I know technically we were a championship team but it was only for one season, rather than a long period and given the players we had and the 5th highest paid squad in the EPl it should never have happened

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  • Owldman

    May 23, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #19

    APs comments are in fact a warning yto every one who is begining to believe we only have to turn up to make fourth place.Ap is being honest with his comments.to gain fourth place we have to go one better than this season,therefor we must finish above either Spurs Arsenal Chelsea or even Liverpool plus possibly Everton who if they get it together could there abouts,Liverpools owners are demanding nothing less than a top four finish next,Pity their next manager he,s got a gun held at his head beforge the season kicks off.Although we have every right to expect great things next season let us not forget we will be without three of our most potent players for up to two months.Alan may not have the money to spend that he would like! so his appraisal may be a fair one And a warning to us all to lower our expectations.

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  • redondo77

    May 23, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #20

    i only care good results.

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  • Colo-Sus

    May 23, 2012 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #21

    Owldman

    SPOT ON

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  • davybtoon

    May 23, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #22

    It doesn’t matter we lost 3 out of last 4 bcoz as it turns out we wouldn’t hav made champions league anyway with Chelsea winning it

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  • duncandisorderly

    May 23, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #23

    Using the word “impossible” is, frankly a little ignorant. It will, of course, be very challenging and, he does right to manage expectations. I do think, especially looking at our goal difference, that we have over-achieved this year. All I want to see is progress, stability, sign of long-term strategy, continued passion and togetherness, and maybe a cup run. As far as impossible goes, try inconceivable if you really must, Mate!

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  • MacToon

    May 23, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #24

    “I’m hoping that I will educate our fans for next season.” Oh cheers Alan!

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  • Solaidback

    May 23, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #25

    I think some of your are forgetting that you need to win the Cl to get that £30m prize, you don’t get anything like that until you win it ffs…..

    Same as the El, there’s no real money in it until the final stages, all the extra money you get is from ticket sale, merchendise & extra sponsorship for being in Europe…

    Personally I’d have swapped places with Cessepool this season, as winning a trophy & finishing top 10 would be a fantastic season for us, now we’ve got to try again on 4 different fronts now & stop those fans who’re still deluded from having a go at Pardew & the players for not winning all or finishing higher than 5th,,,,,

    As for players coming in, someone said that we’d need 5 or 6 players in to make a challenge in the El as well as finish in the top 6, then went on to say he could only see 4 coming in… so how will 1 or 2 extra players make us that much better… don’t get it….

    We’ll bring in maybe a LB, CB, MF & ST at the most, plus replace anyone who leave but expect one or maybe 2 of our top stars to leave too… thats life.. 🙁

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 23, 2012 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #26

    going in to the last few games we were in poll position to finish 3rd, let alone 4th and it does matter because you get nearly another 1M for every place you finish higher.

    If we ever get in that position again, I hope we have replaced Willo and Simpson with M’Biwa and Debuchy and I hope you won’t say losing 3 out of your last 4 matches doesn’t matter then. That’s the mentality between also rans and winners. Winners don’t bottle it.

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  • ToonMobile

    May 23, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #27

    One note of interest, in the whole interview does Pardew state why it is “impossible” for us to finish so high again? All season we were there or thereabouts at the top of the table, why would the same squad not be able to achieve the same next year? What is the reason why we can’t?

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  • wynsleap

    May 23, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #28

    Judging by the way Pardew is talking about being able to aim higher in the League if we were out of Europe, I get this distinct feeling that gaining Europa League admission wasn’t really welcome to the owners and the manager this season as it was affecting their so-called grand ‘plan’ for the club.
    And Heaven help us if they had got into the Champions League. Ashley would have HAD to spend some money at last – he must have been in a cold sweat!
    Near miss there boys – how ‘lucky’!

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  • DoctorZelig

    May 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #29

    The goal was not 5th this year either so I do not expect people to think it would be easy to repeat.

    With some of the majors underachieving this past season, like eg. liverpool, we had less competion for the top spots. Clubs like Aston Villa and Everton will also likely perform better next season.

    Saying it is impossible is of course an overstatement but it will most likely be more difficult then this past season also because teams will have more respect for us…

    I would say that we should aim for top 8 and a good European campaign.

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  • only magpie of nepal

    May 23, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #30

    Yes, it is impossible to finish 5th next year because there is tough competition between Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal to reserve it. All these sh*t teams know that ” MIGHTY TOONS ” are going to finish in Champions League spots next year along with two Manchester clubs and Chelsea.
    TOONS IN THE WONDERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • stestickle

    May 23, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #31

    think next season i would be happy with 8th and league cup hopefully see the younger players coming through and progresing well for the season next then maybe look at top 4-6

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