Newcastle Linked With Manchester United Defender


Newcastle have been linked with Manchester United full-back Fabio in the local papers today.

Fabio – Manchester United full-back

It would appear that Mathieu Debuchy is the first choice at right back, but if Newcastle cannot get the Frenchman, then two players who have been mentioned are Roberto Rosales of FC Twente and Fabio of Manchester United.

Are FC Twente a feeder club for Newcastle – we seem to be after an awful lot of their players.

The news could even be inaccurate, and we weren’t aware that Manchester United wanted to sell Fabio, but send  him out on loan to get first team experience.

Indeed manager Alex Ferguson announced in April that Fábio would leave the club on loan for the 2012–2013 season:

“Fabio will go on loan next season to give him concentrated first-team experience”.

We told you that’s what he said.

Usually it would be a good deal for Newcastle to take a player on loan for a season, and then decide whether to sign him,  based on how he performed in a black and white shirt.

But Newcastle have had no luck with loan deals during Mike Ashley’s tenure at the club, and Fabio may not be able to get a regular game on Tyneside, so we don’t think a loan deal would work too well.

But it’s possible we suppose that Newcastle could bring the player in on a permanent deal to Tyneside, if we aren’t successful with other right back targets, and if say Alan Pardew and Graham Carr thought Fabio was good enough – certainly his names suggests he is. 😀

Fabio – full name – Fábio Pereira da Silva – doesn’t turn 22 until July, and he has played 53 times for the Red Devils with two goals, and twice for Brazil.

Fabio is the identical twin brother of Rafael – and just try telling them apart.

Rafael – we told you they were identical!

Rafael’s full name is Rafael Pereira da Silva – and both were signed by the Red Devils back in February of 2007, when they were both just 16, but now they need regular team football to progress.

Rafael has played 89 times with two goals for United – and once for Brazil – and if we did bring Fabio to Newcastle this summer, we’d have to make sure it was the right twin we were getting – but how Newcastle would tell that we have no idea, since their DNA is even the same.

There’s a challenge for the Magpies.

But we’d be surprised if Newcastle are really interested in Fabio.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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44 comments so far

  • papiss_on_your_parade

    May 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #1

    1st?!?!?!

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  • bambams

    May 29, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #2

    Hey well done papiss….now do the run !!!!

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  • Toonboy_84

    May 29, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #3

    Damn I was so close 🙁

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    May 29, 2012 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #4

    It would seem this has come about from that we’re both linked with Debuchy and if Manchester United get him, we’d get their reject. I can see where they got there, it’s not like we have one of the best scouts since Dennis Wise, is it?

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  • jakesome

    May 29, 2012 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #5

    Damn straight no point in commenting on this b.s

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    May 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #6

    Well well well. Papiss, welcome to the hall of fame. Expect the paparazzi at your door any minute. Fasten your seat belt, fame and fortune is heading your way

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  • bambams

    May 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #7

    i agree……This is a non starter.

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #8

    Thanks but no thanks

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 29, 2012 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #9

    Maxime Dupuis ?@Maxime_Dupuis
    Yanga MBiwa et Gourcuff quittent l’équipe de France. Officiel.

    Come on NUFC act

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 29, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #10

    YES HBA has made it, i feel vindicated

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  • Beattie25

    May 29, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #11

    Mapou and Gourcuff not in the euro squad?

    Nows the time to make a move for both!!!

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  • Garreth

    May 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #12

    Great news for us that Mbiwa has been dropped, means his value won’t increase over the summer and now is the time to try and sign him.

    Great to see HBA making it as well (and of course Cabaye, although we knew he would), great news for the lad and I hope he has a cracking tournament from game 2!

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  • SupaToonKid

    May 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #13

    Our Must Signing are:
    RB: Mathieu Debuchy
    CB: Cristian Zapata
    RF: Junior Hoilett
    Young CF: Anybody as long as they’re good and not too expensive.

    To Take us to the the next Level Signing:
    CAM: Keisuke Honda
    I know i will get loads of people accusing me of being unrealistic with this one but hear me out as i think we do need to bring in a bit more magic to our CM.

    Honda is just what we need to complete the trio with Tiote and Cabaye. We do need more goals from CM and Honda will do that as he gets around 1 every 3 games, he’s skillful and tricky and could cause problems also he will open us into the Asian market with him being Japanese and we’ll have far more commercial success in the Far East.

    Yes your probably all saying he will cost us £20M+ but i doubt he will the most he’ll cost is probably £10M and lets be honest in the current market for a world class player that’s actually not that much and with our negotiating lads we’ll maybe get that down a million or two. We were all surprised when we shelled out £8M on Cisse but look we’ve reaped the rewards and i think we just need this one big, blockbuster signing to give us that boost so we can try get that 4th spot!

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  • MacToon

    May 29, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #14

    Great news for Hatem, hope he doesn’t have a blinder against us though!

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  • bambams

    May 29, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #15

    Mbiwa or Douglass……Which one would be better for toon ?

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  • jesperfuglsang

    May 29, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #16

    Come on people 🙂 doesn’t anybody have anything to add to the “discussion” about sabermetrics being applied to football or “value for money” 🙂

    Anything? something? a thought? a piece of your mind? some insight? a gesture? a point made? Nothing…???

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  • SupaToonKid

    May 29, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #18

    banbams

    Mbiwa would be better as he is quicker and more versatile but if he is too expensive we should go Zapata as he’s similar but bigger and probably cheaper

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  • Beattie25

    May 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #19

    Sabermetric

    Wasn’t he a bad guy in thundercats?

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  • ~Perchinho the Pheonix~

    May 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #20

    They both deserved to make the team.

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  • Tooooon

    May 29, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #21

    not another united reject… pleeeeeeassseeee!! Look how they turned out ie. obertan, simpson.

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  • Vask

    May 29, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #22

    Jesper, save us from googling and give us the jist. Is it just analysing statistical data in order to improve and read the game. I’m sure if it’s any good for football Pards would be up on it. I’m sure he’s explored the possible merits of implementing a sabermetric system?

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  • jesperfuglsang

    May 29, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #23

    God you guys are boring today 😉

    Must be too much sun or something…

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  • Tooooon

    May 29, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #24

    its uusually 5under1and who get the manu rejects anyway.

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  • Vask

    May 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #25

    Tooon. Simpson and Obertan ring any bells?

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  • DraperNUFC10

    May 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #26

    New to the blog 🙂

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  • jesperfuglsang

    May 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #27

    Vask

    I asked the question because I don’t know if can be applied to football the way it has to baseball.

    I am no expect and only know what have a read; the movie Moneyball is about it. sabermetrics attempts to answer objective questions about in this case football.

    For instance which player contributed the most to the team’s offense and is most cost effective.

    We don’t have the money Citeh and Chelsea does so we have to be more clever 🙂

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  • davybtoon

    May 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #28

    By the way I wouldn’t take any notice of the journal about mbwia there so desperate ringing these players agents asking if there signing like the agent is gonna turn round say yea my player is signing, remember the club make all parties sign confidential agreements hence the reason cisse done on the hush hush n amalfitano wouldn’t say he was signing

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 29, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #29

    I CAN SEE IT,

    MAPOU YANGA MBIWA – now signing for the toon, we can offer him life like experience in whats it like to play in french national team 😆

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  • Phatoon

    May 29, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #30

    @Vask,

    I think Tooooon, was referring to:

    O’Shea,
    Brown,
    Bardsley,
    Richardson,
    Campbell,

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  • Vask

    May 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #31

    Ah right.

    So if we say Ben Arfa cost 5.7 million and he dribbled the ball across the half way line 57 times last season, 29 of those time the ball ended up in or around the opposition box and 14 of those ended up in a goal and 8 of those goals ended up on premier league points we would somehow (i’m no statistician) be able to work out how much renvenue Benny had brought us on the pitch then factor in his international popularity and the interest he brings to the club….

    …Jesus there seems like there could be too many variables when you start trying to divide team mate contributions and what have you. I think it’s possible but you would certainly need a team of logicians and a mathmatician for good measure.

    Interesting.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    May 29, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #32

    Jesper….I’m sure there is merit in the system, to some extent. Not a follower of baseball, but I would imagine statistics etc are easier to put together and are more reliable than in football as baseball is quite structured.

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  • check the toastie

    May 29, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #33

    The first major bit of transfer news i want to see is that of Simpson moving on, this then allows Pardew to move for a quality RB (debuchy), until this happens not sure whether we will as money will not be available from tight Mike as we currently have more than enough average cover in that position, maybe Tav will replace Simpson anyway if he has a great pre-season – Tight Mikes thinking?

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  • DraperNUFC10

    May 29, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #34

    A thought just came to me, sorry if I’m completely wrong but say in 3/4 years time when the likes of sammy ameobi, abeid, fergussan, vuckic etc…. All reach abobe the age of 21, what happens then? They’ll have to be part of the selected 25man squad, wouldn’t that mean our whole squad would need rebuilding?

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  • JAMSHA

    May 29, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #35

    well i was the 1st too know both arfa n cabaye wer in the 23 man squad 😉 lol

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  • cyprus

    May 29, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #36

    So we lost the race for Hazard!

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  • Vask

    May 29, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #37

    No doubt Phatoon, You could argue that Brown and O’Shea had a reasonable amount of success at Man Utd. Take them out of the equation and your looking at a similar intake of Man Utd ‘rejects’ for both our clubs.

    Of course Simpson turned out to statistically dominate the premier league right back position last season.

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  • jesperfuglsang

    May 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #38

    Ibiza

    True, and that is the hurtle I guess. But some factors can be measured, but the important thing is to not mess with the constant factors.

    But when buying a defender – taking into account that we might only have £15 mil to spend – how to toy decide whether to but M’biwa, Vertonghen, Douglas or Alderweireld. Who is most cost effective and how will get us 6 goals, 40 games and safeguard Krul the best?

    Isn’t that the task a head?

    Vask

    That is what I was thinking. The problem is that it is easier to measure baseball since you have stats for everything in that sport and it’s more an individual game that football.

    I still think there might be something to it.

    The interesting part is, that the Boston Red Sox has won the World Series twice using sabermetrics and the owner of the Boston Red Sox are also the new owners of Liverpoool.

    Maybe we will know soon than later whether sabermatrics can be applied to football.

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  • toonincheek

    May 29, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #39

    Considering how little we paid for Simmo, and how low his wages were, you have to say it was a good deal for the Toon. Definitely worth what we paid.

    Now that we are setting the bar so much higher, we need a better RB, but let’s not underestimate the contribution Simmo has made.
    Great to see attacking FBs but two of those and you start to expose yourself!!

    I also think that if we have offered £25K per week, that’s a very good deal for Simmo, as he has barely a 50/50 chance of being 1st choice next season anyway.

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  • saxonfenken

    May 29, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #40

    I have always said, if they are not good enough for Man U, Arsenal, Or Chelsea they are not good enough for us,
    Notice that I have left Liverpool of the list

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