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Both Manchester Clubs Now Want Papiss Cisse

9:56 am, Wednesday, May 30th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 45 Comments

News this morning that Manchester United are interested in signing Papiss Cisse, the Newcastle United and Senegal striker.

Papiss Cisse scoring first goal at Chelsea

The news is that both Manchester clubs, including City, are tracking the Newcastle striker, who cost around £8M from SC Freiburg in January, but would cost a lot more now in the transfer market.

Cisse scored 13 goals in just 14 appearances for the Magpies this year, and some of the goals he scored were simply sensational, such as his second goal at Chelsea in May, which had the football world buzzing.

And with Newcastle doing so well in the league last season, some of  our top players like Yohan Cabye, Cheick Tiote, Tim Krul, Demba Ba and Cisse, have been targeted by some of the bigger  clubs.

That’s if you believe the tabloid sporting press of course, although Alan Pardew has said repeatedly that one big player could be leaving the club this summer.

But it will take some big big bucks for Newcastle to sell their top players this summer.

And we think owner Mike Ashley knows that the next step for Newcastle, in increasing their revenues and becoming more successful – the two really go hand in hand – is to have the Tyneside club competing in Europe every season.

And it’s important that Newcastle get back into the Champions League as soon as possible, and to do that we cannot keep selling our very best players every summer.

Newcastle may sell one star in this transfer window, but if a top player leaves then surely it will be for top dollar, as was the case when Andy Carroll was sold to Liverpool for £35M.

We don’t know what would tempt Newcastle to sell Cisse, but it’s got to be well north of £20M.

And a good question is if Andy was worth £35M, then how much is Papiss Cisse worth?

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Papiss Cisse · Transfer News and Rumours



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45 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Dannyo // May 30, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    £50 mill + and i won’t complain.
    Under that and i’ll bring hell and fury.

  • 2 toonarmydownsouth // May 30, 2012 at 10:02 AM

    In ur dreams manchester maybe a swap deal for aguero + cash ;)

  • 3 Indian Magpie // May 30, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Hell hath no fury like norwegians

  • 4 FatmanJoe // May 30, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    after The Carroll fiasco at Liverpool i think clubs will be reluctant to part with big money for any of our players.

    Which is good coz we definitely won’t sell for cheap!

  • 5 David // May 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

    Cissé has just got here, I very much doubt we’ll sell him.

    Also, he doesn’t want to leave Newcastle as he said this to the Evening Chronicle: “I hope to continue scoring goals for Newcastle next season”.

  • 6 shear-class // May 30, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Utter Garbage As Usual

  • 7 SupaToonKid // May 30, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Papiss isn’t going for anything less than £40M

    If i was Ashley i’d try to get £5M for Simpson and £3M for Best then for sure if Debuchy’s price does rise from £6M to £8M then we’ll have him in the bag!

  • 8 David // May 30, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    Where’s this information coming from… source?

  • 9 XtraTimeAndPens // May 30, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    Anything less than 25 million and the Manchester clubs will be getting a bargain. Personally, I can’t really see either move happening but you can’t really second guess Fergie or the money bags at City. I’d be happy with 30 million in today’s (utterly ridiculous) football market.

  • 10 Dannyo // May 30, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    No, i don’t belive Cisse will go anywhere. He’s as good as striker as anyone in the world imo, atleast on previous form.

    For me, he’d be the last player i would sell. We’ll say no all the way til the window closes.

  • 11 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // May 30, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    50million + Bibotelli and Adam Johnson then Ill consider it.

    or

    50million + Rooney and Cleverley.

  • 12 stuart no9 // May 30, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    we done famously last season. We done well in the league, better than i ever thought we would, got into europe (easily) and now have a decent team, – not squad – team. We got into europe by buying good players who worked hard for the cause, HOWEVER- selling anyone of our stars would undo all the good work from last year.I still dont trust ashly.I am bracing myself for the grenade i feel he will soon be throwing in our direction. None of our big stars should be allowed REGARDLESS of the fee involved. They are the very players who got us into europe why sell them just to start all over again, it will be a never ending process .We have to say NOT FOR SALE but with ash in charge i dont think that will happen. Its funny ed you say -” one of the big clubs” – well , WE should be one of those big clubs- why arnt we ?

  • 13 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // May 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/900618-newcastle-and-sunderland-interested-in-manchester-citys-adam-johnson?

  • 14 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // May 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/blackburn-rovers-fc/1212557-arsenal-rival-newcastle-united-for-blackburn-rovers-ace-nzonzi.html?

  • 15 Dannyo // May 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    @stuart no9
    How to expect us to bring in money otherwise? We can only spend what we make is soon to be a reality.

  • 16 Scottiedog // May 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    £80m!!

  • 17 papiss_on_your_parade // May 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    If cisse goes, we really would need to invest the cash straight back into a proven world class striker. Every game we have played poorly in the 2nd half of the season has been when cisse was rarely off form, or if we were poor cisse just has that edge for me and really won us some games we easily could have lost.

    It’s againtst our ‘buy them cheap sell ‘em high’ philosophy, but without cisse next season, we really will struggle. All it takes is ba to have an off season like he did after january, and who will play in his place, championship best? Lathargic ameoobi? Don’t get me wrong the lads a good impact sub, but not a starting striker.

    Who knows, maybe xisco will come good :D

  • 18 cousto // May 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Fergie won’t buy a player he’s going to lose in January for the ACoN and doubt he’ll go to City to warm a bench.

    Also I thought a player couldn’t sign for 2 different clubs (unless it’s a loan deal) within a calendar year?

  • 19 Graeme // May 30, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Ed, Andy Carroll was never “worth” £35 million, its just what MA screwed out of them for a player he didnt want to sell. In the open market he was probably “worth” about £12-15 Million, maybe £20 million at a push.

    Cisse is “worth” far more than we got for AC given the impact he has made in his first season; if he can repeat that next season than he would probably be “worth” way over what we got for AC. Then we just have to hope nobody wants to pay £50 million for him and he stays at NUFC!!

  • 20 FatmanJoe // May 30, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    This story was reported with no sources, no inside information, no clue.

    Just the tabloids trying to fill a space.

    The only player we should be worried about is demba and I think most people on this blog have resigned ourselves to that.

  • 21 Lee Dodd // May 30, 2012 at 10:27 AM

    He wont go its all paper talk again !!!!!!!!!!! He came Because of Demba Ba and Tiote why go to a club were he will be on the bench or play every 2 or 3 games … He aint Daft he knows he will play every week when fit …. Mike Ashley has Just Drawn some respect in the last 6 months sell our players and he can jump back down the Toilet again….

  • 22 Nufc-83 // May 30, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Value would be around 30 million in my eyes if he wanted to go. If he is happy then we should keep him and reject anything up to around 45.

  • 23 stuart no9 // May 30, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    dannyo- i understand what you say, but WHEN do we actually become successful .We bring players up- we sell them at a profit- we buy in new players then sell them at a profit- when does this stop? how do we actually become successful . doing this system time after time can only be successful for ashley. Ok he hasnt sold anyone , YET, but i cant see how we can follow last year and be successful in europe using this method- i really cant

  • 24 seebeebelgium // May 30, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Ofcourse they want him, who wouldn’t want him, but I do hope we will keep him. But we know everyone has his price, I just hope that price is high enough and only payed in one or two seasons.

  • 25 Szarka // May 30, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    He cant have 3 clubs in 12 months . Cissé wont leave at least until winter.

  • 26 hdavid23 // May 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    tell them he’s ?70mill plus Rooney and they can have him

  • 27 Nufc-83 // May 30, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    Stuart i don’t think u grasp how the club is looking to develop. If man u came and said we will offer you 150k a week and CL football there is a very good chance cisse will want to leave anyone saying otherwise is kidding themselves. If they then offered 35 mil that we could invest in the squad and improve it should be considered. If you continued to bring in players who will improve the team you would hope can get to a stage where we can compete and not lose our best players but we are nowhere near that point yet.

  • 28 Swede // May 30, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    The development of the squad is the most important thing. Hopefully there are money in the club to withstand the temptation. But if any of the clubs would be interested it would be a horrendous price, such that the money for carroll would seem like peanuts. 45 million, a established striker and 10 youth players. Well just an idea, We nned to get Mbiwa in to the club, Have to enter and get the players we truly need, cant back off just because there are other clubs involved. Newcastle have to be feared among other clubs and know that when we bid on a player we go all in for them………..

  • 29 only magpie of nepal // May 30, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    Lets swap Cisse with Man City owners.

  • 30 stuart no9 // May 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    NUFC-83- ok, for a start you are correct, i dont grasp how the club is looking to develop.i said that in my earlier comment @23. i also notice you said ” very good chance cisse will want to leave” now that is different. If a player WANTS to leave then by all means let him go. however , if a player DOSNT want to leave and is happy here, then WHY should ash sell him. that is my point.IF he is going to sell every good player who comes to us, How do we develop ,and how many years is it going to be before we have got enough money to resist temptation. i dont think that will happen.

  • 31 tweaked // May 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM

    knowing ashley if he spent 10mil to get him, he’ll want at least 50mil to sell him, its all in the profit :-)

    he is worth 50mil in my books, NEWCASTLE NO9 :-D

  • 32 stuart no9 // May 30, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    magpie of nepal @29- i,ll 2nd that.

  • 33 toonincheek // May 30, 2012 at 1:11 PM

    I reckon if MA gets an offer of 30-35 million, he will put it to Cisse that he would accept that IF Cisse wants to move on OR he is happy to keep Cisse if he wants to stay.

    That’s the way it SHOULD be done.

  • 34 stuart no9 // May 30, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    toon @33 – my point exactly. forcing players to leave for transfer fee , in my opinion is not an owner full of ambition (for the club) you cant keep an unhappy player- that is fact, however i would like nufc to come out and say NOT FOR SALE if the player then comes out and starts kicking off , then sell him, – not before, but he must be the one to want to leave.

  • 35 Owldman // May 30, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    Lawrenson writing in one of the mornig papers has stated that the owners of Liverpool haven,t got a clue about running a football club he actually said they dont even know how to go about getting a new manager, 6th place at the best next season.the two Manchester teams Spurs,Arsenal & Chelsea ,no mention of Newcastle,it appears that Lawrenson & the rest of the so called pundits will not accept that the Toon can break into that top four. Any new manager at Liverpool will have to work with a so called director of football.I dont think any manager worth his salt he put up with that situation .

  • 36 GoalsBringSmiles // May 30, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    Owldman

    isn’t that the situation Pardew is in with Llambias?

  • 37 toonincheek // May 30, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Great news about Lawro predicting a best place of 6th for ‘Pool next year – he always overestimates their performances.

    Ah, but then, he also always gets things wrong ! !

  • 38 stuart no9 // May 30, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    owldman- maybe lawrenson also dosnt trust ashley and he also believes players will be sold and the whole process starts again???????? which i believe is what a lot of people think!

  • 39 Nojdani // May 30, 2012 at 5:03 PM

    I think Cisse is worth £40M anything less is not good enough :)

  • 40 Nufc-83 // May 30, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    Stuart if any of the Manchester clubs come in with an offer for any of our top playes they will want to leave no question about that as wages will be trippled and CL football offered. So its about getting a high price and investing back into the squad. I agree we should not sell 5 top players at once but that won’t happen. I don’t think ashley is offering our star players around like you seem to suggest.

  • 41 Owldman // May 30, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    @ 36 the difference between Toon supporters & Livershite is that we Toon supporters know what might happen.Best players sold as it always has happened,some of our greatest whent as a supporter of over 60 years.Iv,e despaird at the amount of times we have sold our best most have asked to leave for various.Gazza ,Waddle Beardsly Alan Kennedy Terry Mc of course more recently Carrol.Enrique.Nolan& Barton.& it will never change if you have to balance the books! the only assets you have are the players.Sadly thats the hard fact of life in the Premier League,I am sure if anyone was offered 4 times their wages to move to another firm they would be hard pressed to reffuse

  • 42 microbar // May 30, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    3 clubs in 12 months AGAINST THE RULES,
    So this story is nothing but rubbish, dream on manure and man shity.

  • 43 TakingThePapiss // May 30, 2012 at 8:25 PM

    I believe the politically correct names are Man-Poo and Man-Shitty.

    Anyway, given that Carroll was sold on for 35m, I’d expect that due to the form Cisse is in he’d go for at least 40m, if not more. His form at the present is as good, if not better, than that of Torres’ before Chelsea bought him: so a price of around 50m wouldn’t be unlikely depending on who comes in for him. And if the Manchester clubs want a bidding war for him, and we end up with even more than that, I wouldn’t mind selling Cisse on and buying loads of quality players, found by Graham of course, who can help us cope with the enormous number of games we potentially have next season.
    If not, we keep the prolific Cisse and make a couple of good signings.

    It’s a win-win situation for us.
    Or as I’d like to say: the future’s bright, the future’s black and white.

  • 44 nufc debo // May 31, 2012 at 12:22 AM

    Howay lads what’s up? I’m a long time reader of this and other blogs but a first time poster, personally I don’t think Cashley will sell Cisse as there will be far more money to be made thru qualifying for cl (hopefully) with the likes of him in the squad and inturn more room for development of the squad. One thing is I’m struggling to see where the evidence is of MA cashing in on our prized assets to line his pockets, Nolan wanted more money and longer contract than we would offer, Barton is just a twat and although he did his bit we are better off with out him, Enrique was offered contract after contract but still declined the opportunity to be part what we were trying to do and AC, the only one who went for a significant amount, lifted up his skirt when liverfool and dogleash fluttered their eyelids and a wad of cash at him and skipped town. All in all there’s not one of those I would rather be here than the current squad and there surely wouldn’t be many who disagree. Where though is the evidence of MA selling up at the first big offer that comes in? I’m not his biggest fan but you gotta see the sense in what he’s done and look at the bigger picture which is turning out pretty damn rosy!

  • 45 shamsoftabriz // May 31, 2012 at 5:43 AM

    This just in: Arsenal, ManU, Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool, PSG, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter, AC Milan, Juve, Bayern, Shanghai, Grozny, Philly Union, Real Salt Lake, Santos, Scunthorpe, The House of Lords, and my attractive sister who is–by the way–still single are all interested in Papiss Demba Cisse.




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