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Newcastle And Gateshead Form A Win-Win Relationship

10:51 am, Friday, June 1st, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 255 Comments

Gateshead will become an even more  important club for Newcastle United in the years ahead.

Ian Bogie – Gateshead manager

With Newcastle being so close to Gateshead – just across the River Tyne – Gateshead are well placed to take a number of  Newcastle young talent on loan, to give them valuable first team playing experience.

And it’s really a win-win for both clubs, as Gateshead also get the advantage of having some top young Magpies play for them.

And the standard of football at Gateshead will only improve, as they attempt to climb the leagues in England, and get back somewhere close to the Championship say, over the next several seasons.

Gateshead have already taken some of our best youngsters, players like James Tavernier, Jak Alnwick, Jeff Henderson and Paul Dummett, and manager Ian Bogie, who himself is a Geordie, is all for the arrangement that he has helped develop with Newcastle:

“We’ve taken the likes of James Tavernier and Jak Alnwick,” “When they find it difficult to get in at Newcastle, we’ve got this great link because I’ve got good contacts there.”

“Peter Beardsley’s been fantastic, he comes to watch our games.” “I think Alan Pardew saw in pre-season when we gave them a really good game, that we play in the right way and that this is a good place for his players to come and learn their trade.”

“It’s a high standard, we’re competitive, we play the game in the right way and it’s a great breeding ground for these players.” “We look after them, they get a good grounding and great experience.”

Newcastle will also be creating good relationships with other clubs, so their youngsters can get first team experience, and Carlisle United are another side that have formed a win-win relationship with Newcastle.

When you have a huge investment in Youth, as Newcastle do, it’s important for the lads to get first team games, as part of their football development.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Newcastle Youth · Other News





255 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Indian Magpie // Jun 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Come on Ed, its Gateshead not gatehead. :roll:

  • 2 jakesome // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    sammy may be above them but a cheeky 3 months while everyone else is fit cannot do him any harm

  • 3 jakesome // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    i think there is playing time for vucik and abeid with us next season, europa, carling early f.a

  • 4 jesperfuglsang // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Since Newcastle United is the only big football around Newcastle, it would be good for us to have teams such as Gateshead, Blyth, South Shields and Durham move up the league :)

  • 5 jakesome // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    what about darlo

  • 6 SupaToonKid // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    From Last Post:

    I think realistically and to improve the squad i would sign the following (i keep having to change my list):

    RB: Mathieu Debuchy: we all know why; outstanding full back who can defend and attack equally well + good understanding with Ben Arfa and Cabaye.

    CB: Cristian Zapata: Cheaper alternative to the much talked about Mbiwa. At 6’2? he can cause problems at both ends but unlike Douglas he can run faster than a snail (he could keep up with Long better than Collo could). He’s very versatile; can play across the whole backline.

    CM: Rasmus Elm/Marvin Martin: Now both of these players are very good at what they do. Both are good at set pieces and both are good footballers. Elm is better at set pieces and Martin is possibley the overall better player however i think Elm is more realistic as i expect he’s cheaper, Martin wants to join a CL side also we desperately need a player like Elm who can deliver consistantly from set pieces.

    2 Forwards: Junior Hoilett & Hueng-Min Son; both young with bags of potential, quick, can score from set pieces (Son especially he scored an absolute cracker for Hamburg this year), skillful, good at finishing also both can play out wide or as the CF. I’d probably use Son as the CF when Ba and Cisse were at ACON due to his height and maybe deploy Hoilett just behind him.

    Net Spending: Debuchy: £6.5M, Zapata: £5M, Rasmus Elm: £6-7M, Hoilett: free (£3M compensation) and Son: £7M
    Total: £28M

    Of course Simpson and co will leave so with the income from that we’ll probably only spend around £20M. If Ba does leave then any out of Luuk de Jong, Oliver Giroud or Bas Dost would be good replacements. Hopefully as well we can bring in the youngster Gael Bigrirama from Cov for £1M.

  • 7 jakesome // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WFHsSEDiZg
    always makes me laugh

  • 8 Colo-Sus // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    SupaToonKid

    Stop setting yourself up for a let down mate,

    this is not Footy Manager,

  • 9 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    @ SupaToonKid

    I also hope we can get Debuchy, Zapata and Hoilett because they would be very good signings.

    I don’t think we are going to spend net £20M (hope I’m wrong)

    I would drop Son and Elm and use the money to sign a Adam Johnson.

    In addition replacement for guthrie

    In central midfield we can use Tiote,Cabaye,Gosling,Jonas,Abeid,vuckic and hopefully a new face in for guthrie,

    Earlier you said newcastle are a bigger club than Juventus.. NO WAY

  • 10 t00ntime // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    What about darlo?

    Darlo are gone mate lol the last I heard they were stripped from there players, the FA took the name of them (they are no longer officaly darlington fc) and then they got there FA cup rights taken off them (not like they cud play in it)

    So really since they have no name or players, I think its game over for em…

  • 11 Indian Magpie // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    Transfer Central TNC ?@TransferNewsCen
    Chelsea have spent about the same amount on Hulk,Hazard & Marin, as Liverpool spent on Carroll,Downing & Henderson. Perspective. -S
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  • 12 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    @ Indian

    The fee on Carroll was very much because Chelsea paid so much for torres. So i think u should have torres in there when you are comparing.

  • 13 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    Blimey, SupaToonKid.

    We would be lucky to sign 1/2 of those players. Theres no chance we are going to get them all, let alone spend so much within 1 window.

    At most we would probably spend half the amount for all those players this window, save the rest for January and evaluate the squad then buy in area’s we need improving on.

  • 14 check the toastie // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Adam Johnson might of just helped himself get out of Man City for a couple of million cheaper, about time Pardiola got a grip of him, made him into a better person.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-18294482

  • 15 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Check the toastie,

    Michael Johnson?

  • 16 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    You got the two Johnson’s mixed up mate.

  • 17 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Adam Johnson will still cost us a hefty amount.

  • 18 check the toastie // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Wrong Johnson, i am a d1ckhead – official

  • 19 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2153166/Luuk-Jong-Newcastle-target.html

    If we could get De Jong for 7 million we should buy him regardless of the situation with Ba. We need a qualitystriker when both cisse and ba are gone in african nation cup

  • 20 Indian Magpie // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Micahel johnson is also a good player, he had a good season under sven

  • 21 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    @papiss but he might not want to be our third string striker

  • 22 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    I’d be surprised if Ba is sill here come September; we definitely need cover for Ciase when he goes on ACON duty

  • 23 rich // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    Heerenveen have announced Bas Dost signed for Wolfsburg

  • 24 Jail for Ashley // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    The livliest I’ve seen this blog in awhile when some NOB came on here last night and called KK a moron,was certainly better than the ‘ I think we should sign …….’ topic.

  • 25 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    @Graham cwarr

    True, but he might want to fight for a place in the team and i would rather have a replacement first (if Ba leaves). All the top teams have quality on the bench.

  • 26 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    @jfa
    Richs words were harsh at first. Once he calmed down and stopped name calling i saw some of his points.

  • 27 dmac // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:32 PM

    @JFA i didnt read the whole arguement last night but i somewhat agree with both sides. KK bought about the good times at newcastle no doubt and should be remembered for that.

    It does irk me a little that he has walked out on us twice though. Sir Bobby would never have walked.

  • 28 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    Chelsea are getting very dangerous, they will def challenge for the title next season. 433, with hulk, torres and hazard is f*****g good.

  • 29 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    Chelsea are going for the title next year. 433 with hulk,torres,hazard upfront and maybe lampard,essien,ramirez in midfield. scary

  • 30 LGFUAD21 // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    From what I have read today.

    The more I see from Clyne the more I like the guy. He is clearly skilled and everybody keeps saying we need someone to help out with attacks on the right. He can also cross well. But can he adequately defend? in the prem?

    I am still hoping for Debuchy. Jesper made a good point about the relative cost and achievements of each.

    De Jong looks decent enough in the video and has a powerful strike. But whenever I’ve watched a game he also looks a bit flukey. Like a younger, slightly butter but also luckier Bendtner tbh.

    But at his age for a decent fee as a replacement for Ba I’d take him. Carr has watched Twente a lot this season so he will know

  • 31 Indian Magpie // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    Marin Mata De bruyne.

    we could get sturridge from chelsea

  • 32 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/joe-kinnear-breaks-silence-on-his-turbulent-spell-in-charge-of-newcastle-united-1-4606916

    Get him back in :)

  • 33 RobertNufc25 // Jun 1, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    Chelsea are gonna have a really good side next season.

    All good young players hazard,Marin etc etc

  • 34 Jail for Ashley // Jun 1, 2012 at 1:00 PM

    dmac,
    We all have reservations about KK letting us down but what he has done for us places him well above being called a moron.

  • 35 Indian Magpie // Jun 1, 2012 at 1:00 PM

    Matt Spiro ?@mattspiro
    EPL clubs take note: extremely talented France U21 winger Yacine Brahimi has handed in transfer request at Rennes. Borussia MGladbach keen

  • 36 Garreth // Jun 1, 2012 at 1:16 PM

    “2011/2012 Dutch top flight top scorer Bas Dost signs with VfL Wolfsburg.”

    I’ve seen a few people on here say he has been linked with us… well that’s another transfer rumour that won’t be happening!

  • 37 ilovetoon8788 // Jun 1, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    Yacine Brahimi. Get him in!!!!!!!

  • 38 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jun 1, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    Jesus H Christ..
    .
    Chelski isnt kidding IS he..

    HULK MARIN HAZARD my god well that team will finish above us next season this is becoming ridiculous….

    Feel sorry for Manure next year as City and Chelski are looking hideously stronger on paper again.

  • 39 davybtoon // Jun 1, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    we hav been in advanced talks with yacine brahimi

  • 40 davybtoon // Jun 1, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    hes only 2/3mill aswell

  • 41 Shane // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    There is nothing official about Hulk or Hazard going to Chelski. Just rumour and Hazards tomfoolery on Twitter. I can’t see Chelsea getting both.

  • 42 davybtoon // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120601/newcastle-target-tells-rennes-im-173479

    yacime brahimi this isnt the article that says were in advanced talks that was from a french paper

  • 43 davybtoon // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    shane chelsea are getting hazard and hulk

  • 44 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    Chelsea could be awesome next season. Hopefully we still.make top 6

  • 45 davybtoon // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    chelsea want van der weil think that is his name the ajax rb n dembele from fulham aswell

  • 46 santoooooooooon // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    Hulk is good player but Ben Arfa is better- more technical. Hulk only has more power than Ben Arfa in pace and strength.
    If Hulk is worth £40m then Ben Arfa should be worth £45m+

  • 47 Shane // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    I imagine City or even United will try and hijack at least one of them transfers… Nothings ever official until the clubs announce it. We’ve been there too many times before so you never know.

  • 48 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    Yep van Der weil. Holland international right back. Really good player. Dembele on the bench for them too. They’re really rebuilding. Been needed for 2 years.

  • 49 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    Notice how Santon has the number 2 shirt on:

    http://www.nufc.com/

    We should utilise him as a right-back and get Cissokho in.

  • 50 santoooooooooon // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    Papiss9 haha you forget mata aswell, their best player!
    Their team will be:

    Cech
    NEW RB Cahill Terry Cole
    Ramires Lampard
    Hulk Mata Hazard
    Torres

    with hazard and mata interchangeable

  • 51 davybtoon // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    Wonder which paper will hav the headline hulk smash when he scores a screamer in the prem

  • 52 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:48 PM

    Santoooon

    Haha, i know.. stupid :p

    But that team looks very good, and if Essien come backs to his best aswell i think their first team is better than city, if the new right back is class. De jong barry as def midfielders is not as good as essien ramirez/lamps essien or ramirez lamps

  • 53 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    Has anyone seen brahimi play? (more than one match or videos on youtube?

    He has handed in a transferrequest at rennes. Would he be good enough to go into our starting11?

  • 54 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    Papiss9
    yacine brahimi is like a right footed ben arfa from what i heard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u9zfVlW1bM

  • 55 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:57 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01cIfsBr_L0&feature=related

  • 56 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 2:58 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar4G0dIOZOU

  • 57 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzl-zqvzY1M
    brahimi vs montepillier

  • 58 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    thanks nufc786

    Looks like he has good skills and he is pretty quick. If we are going to play 433 he is a kind of winger who would fit in. Hope he is consistent, dont like players who dissapear on the wing and just shows glimpses of quality (like theo walcott)

  • 59 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    we can develop him he is still 22 same age as obertan…..

  • 60 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:11 PM

    brahimi’s attitude is good too he completed a baccalauréat which is similar too A levels while playing for rennes academy

  • 61 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    Yeah, if the price is fair I hope we try to get him. I also hope obertan improves (too early to say he has floped)

  • 62 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    Looks like we are going for Clyne. Since Sagna is injured for france, debuchy will play a lot I guess and if france and he does well, then other clubs would want him too.. Hoping Cabaye can talk him into signing for us even if better clubs shows interest

  • 63 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    obertan can become something great if he just learns to overcome nerves and deliver attacking runs whilst also tracking back helping full backs……. then a similar player to ronaldo will emerge…………….

  • 64 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:17 PM

    i watched ben arfa have a deeep conversation on the bench with debuchy yesterday ……… could mean the start of something………..

  • 65 geordieinjapan // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:17 PM

    alan smith, lovenkrands and guthrie released along with kadar and phil airey

  • 66 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:18 PM

    Agree. He has great physical attributes. He needs to use his pace more and dribble before he runs into his man… he allways gets to close to the defender. With his pace and adequate technique i think he should be doing better one on one. His crossing is terrible at times, he should be staying after trainingsessions and crossballs to cisse and ba;)

  • 67 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:19 PM

    http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/05/29/nufc-miss-out-on-defender-mapou-yanga-mbiwa-61634-31065287/
    apparently of too bundesliga

  • 68 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    good to get rid of some fingeplayers, then we have room for more signings. Smith and Loven has nothing to offer IMO. Guthrie is good, but wants guaranteed 1. team football. he’s not THAT good

  • 69 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    Papiss9
    all the ability tht obertan has he just needs to embrace it use it thts all tht has to be done for him to become a great player

  • 70 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    in termas of wages thts quite a bit
    loven- 15k
    alan smith- 60k
    kadar- 1-2k
    airy-1-2k
    guthrie-8.5k

  • 71 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    If he does that and marvaux gets injuryfree, we have arfa,obertan,marvaux who fits perfect to play wingers in 433. Jonas can play there too, but prefere him central actually because he has good passing, runs like h**l. From what i’ve heard amalfitano can play all over the midfield. Hope we dont use Ba as a leftwinger, he is better as a striker

  • 72 geordieinjapan // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    300k a year saved by letting smith go alone.

    great news

  • 73 geordieinjapan // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    haha 300k, i meant 3mil

  • 74 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Papiss9
    agreed. if obertan does make the cut i think we can use arfa centrally and mearvaux and obertan to operate as wingers

  • 75 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Smith should have left us long time ago, all he wanted was to cash in that money. Play somewhere else for lower wages wasn’t something he wanted to.

  • 76 nufc786 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    3mill is quite alot from 1 injury plagued player..
    thank him for the championship season though

  • 77 SuperShearer // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    Woah! Apparently since 2003 Porto have made €850 Million in transfer fees! Goes to show that being a selling club and pay big time, it’s not like they haven’t had their share of success either. Great scouting network paying dividends there.

  • 78 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    at nufc786

    agreed

    Marvaux and arfa could swap place during games to confuse opposition. REally looking forward to next season. EL will be great. this club needs to be in europe every year.From now on with financial rules coming in to play i hope and believe we will establish in top 6.

    Hard to compete with manu,chelsea,city just yet. But we should be able to match spurs,liverpool and arsenal unless they start to splash the cash

  • 79 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    Supershearer

    Really admire porto, they allways seem to develope good players, and when they sell its allways for enormous fees.

  • 80 arctoa // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    It’s good to see Newcastle actually making use of local teams for loan deals, finally; it is a win-win situation for the whole area and has a snowball effect in that the higher in the league structure these other local clubs are, the better their youngsters coming through will be: which can only be good news for us!

  • 81 SuperShearer // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    @Papiss9 it’s refreshing to see how it can be done if done right. Porto have won the CL recently, are always challenging for their domestic league and yet are the very definition of a ‘selling club’. It would be hard to see your heroes sold every summer but I’d take it in exchange for a trophy now and then. Of course much of that success will come down to the Portugese league not being shown as globally as say the EPL but still they’re doing what I suspect Ashley and Co are trying to achieve.

  • 82 hainesy // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:53 PM

    They made over 100M selling Bosingwa, Paulo Ferreira, Pepe and Carvalho. Can’t say they ever looked 100M tbh.

  • 83 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:56 PM

    Even Arsenal sold Nasri and Fabregas last summer.

    All our best players have longterm contracts. If we sell players for high transfer fees it allows us to replace them. Sometimes its good to sell one of the best players for a lot and then buy 3-4 players. When juventus sold Zidane to real madrid, they bought Buffon, Nedved and Thuram. Porto do this kind of stuff all the time. If newcastle can continue what we have started I’m sure we are in very good shape every year from now on.

  • 84 SuperShearer // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    @hainsey, but isn’t that the point. Sell players for over inflated prices or don’t sell them at all. Look at Carroll! Get big bucks for players you know are not worth that much. Teams like City and Chelsea with their rich sugar daddies allow this to happen in football now. If you ask how much Cabaye, Cisse, Afra or Tiote are worth now all would have at least probably trebled if not more in value. I guess what I’m saying is Newcastle are playing a very intelligent game in the transfer market and long may it continue.

  • 85 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    Papiss…It’s never good to see you’re best players being sold, however, it does seem to be a way forward. I for one, am not too bothered, as the club appear to be replacing outgoing players with young, good quality players.

    I don’t think we’re going to know how successful the plan is for a few years yet. But I’m enjoying being a NUFC fan again, so can’t complain. Well…I could complain… :)

  • 86 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    Ibiza

    Hopefully our players love what’s been done recently and would like to build on this season and get even better. During the season a lot of “experts” said newcastle would just sell players to bigger clubs when they perform like they did.

    Because of our 5 th place and EL this is not the case. And i LOVE IT!!

  • 87 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    I have boot problems at all with us selling players. We know rashly is gonna squeeze the rich boys for all they’re worth which means we can buy 2 players in their place and still make a profit. Gradually build a great team and gradually build depth.

  • 88 SuperShearer // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:11 PM

    What I admire about what Ashley and Co have done is they’ve come in and set a president for our transfer policy. It’s saying “yes our players are for sale, BUT only for a price that we’re happy we can get 2 maybe 3 players of equal standard in to replace the ‘star’ you are paying for”. Wenger’s has been kind of doing it for a while but rarely dares to bring in players unless they’re still kids. You still need experience in the side to lead, hence signing Colo and the likes of Krul to long term deals cements a spine with which to build around.

  • 89 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    Boot problems? No problems i hit a b instead of an n and my phone corrects it with that! Tucking autocorrect.

  • 90 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Tucking? I give up.

  • 91 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    supershearer

    agree 100 %

  • 92 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:19 PM

    @supershearer. Wengers stubbornness for getting only youngsters has cost him in my opinion. Arteta was an exception.
    Our policy is arguable better. Buying players upto 26 adds the experience factor of somebody who’s been plying their trade in top leagues for 3-8 years (rarely 8).

  • 93 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM

    When combined with some top youngsters, out of favour talent and surprise packages playing out of their skin lead by a top man manager and motivator, a high team spirit, a low tolerance for troublemakers.
    Nufc a very promising unit!

  • 94 SuperShearer // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM

    @grahamcwarr, absolutely right sir. Wenger could have won more trophies had he been more open to older players in the market. Also for the policy to work you mustn’t be afraid to take the occasional gamble, Arfa is the prime example. Imagine if Arsenal had come calling for him, would we have got him? Doubt it but Wenger wasn’t willing to risk him. We were and I think arguably we have one of the most gifted players in the league as a result.

  • 95 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    How many premier league teams can you apply all of my above points to?

  • 96 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    Marveaux could be next seasons Ben arfa. Ba was a risk that paid off too. Cabaye was our least risky buy (even though bad was on a free-ish). Papiss cisse was a known quantity around Europe which is one reason we paid more for him.
    We are also willing to let guys have another chance to prove their worth (perch, Williamson, raylor)

  • 97 Jail for Ashley // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    Supershearer,
    I can!t wait for my holidays in a couple of years I bet the local taxi driver wherever it may be will be just green with envy when I tell him how much we made that year.

  • 98 SuperShearer // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    @grahamcawarr none, but with our success of last season I can well see others adopting our policy. Tottenham have had a good policy of player purchase for a while, buy young talent and hope to bring it through combined with the occasional big buy. BUT with Redknapp in charge he’s bought so many players that he hasn’t made use of and have wanted to leave, Kranjcar, Peenear, Defoe, Palacious, etc. I suspect this is why Tottenham are considering their options on his contract.

  • 99 SuperShearer // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:35 PM

    @Jail For Ashley, It’s not about bragging rights of club earnings, my initial point was Porto have a very successful model for both on and off the field success. Ashely from what I can see is trying to implement something similar and if that means selling a few star players for over inflated prices to bring in 2-3 potential star players I’ll be happy. Football is changing for the better and we’re setting ourselves up to be successful in the more tightly run financial era. After nearly 30 years of supporting Newcastle I feel that we’re finally being run a way that will see us safe. Never forget how close Shepard got to putting us into administration, we could have easily gone the way of Leeds.

  • 100 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:38 PM

    The average wage to revenue – ratio is 70 % in PL and newcastle have 50 % and got the 5 th place ofcourse. We look very solid atm.

  • 101 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:38 PM

    Bag face has had tonnes to spend on lots of players. He’s undetutilized some great talents.
    Redknapp looks like the male killer strangers, or scarecrow in batman begins

  • 102 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    Redknapp is a p!ss poor excuse of a manager whos only tactic is to throw cash around sometimes it works like spuds in the CL sonetimes it backfires massivly and are still suffering the backlash just ask pompey fans!!

    Any1 know why hoillet isnt listed on the free agents list?

  • 103 nufc90 // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:51 PM

    just had a look down the retained list..
    i’d definitely take diame, rodellega, pogrebnyak (not necessarilly as starters) for squad depth

  • 104 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    @tads maybe his contract hasn’t expired yet?

  • 105 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 4:57 PM

    Nufc90 all worth a punt for some quick squad depth

  • 106 ToonAndy // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:04 PM

    Who thinks we should go all out for Kagawa? … Unrealistic I know with teams like man u, man city, juventus etc all sniffing round… But this is a world class player going for less than 10 million who we could offer a permanent starting place to ….
    Also Japanese which will increase our fan base enormously due to having arguably their biggest talent!

  • 107 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:07 PM

    @toonandy i think he would prefer elsewhere but i see no harm in trying.

  • 108 KINGSMILL (The Poster Formerly Known as Niff) // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:12 PM

    Ed, No offence dude but WHERE IN THE WORLD OF TINTERNET DOES IT SAY BA WANTS TO LEAVE? Making news is one thing, assumptions based on pure guess work and allegations is another. Come on.

  • 109 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:16 PM

    graham cwarr is it because hes under 24 and we have to pay compensation?

  • 110 Sazzer // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:16 PM

    I think if we can get good deals. Then I can see us spending more or rather investing more this summer than we have before.
    Reason for this:
    Our financial situation looks good. Better players are available now than last season.
    Wage bills reduced in relation to ability.

    This makes it a smart move to run deficit this summer to keep or improve our position in the Top five. Just as it was a smart move making the biggest transfer in the winter window when we had the opportunity to challenge for CL and EL.

    If we also can get some cheap interest-rate from Virgin Money in exchange for better brand recognition that would make the risk a lot smaller.

    Then if can sell someone for 20 – 40 m £. For example Cabaye not this season but next summer after we qualified for CL and won EL =) Then that would cover our running deficit.

  • 111 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:25 PM

    Fck! Napoli are after and will probably get Cissokho an Douglas… Guess we’ll have to look elsewhere.

  • 112 jimmyxavi // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:25 PM

    Released players : Newcastle: Adjei, Airey, Donaldson, Folan, Guthrie, Henderson, Kadar, Lovenkrands, McDermott, Nzuzi, Smith

    Shame about Donaldson, looked a good player!

  • 113 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    @tads i think it still technically counts as a free transfer

  • 114 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM

    Sensible from swansea to have a clause written in that the bindippers cant bid for any of there players for a year,

    Really think rodgers will be unemployed again by jan got promoted using a squad established by some1 else and used a boring style of football and liverpool fans cant seem to grasp the fact there club needs seriously rebuilding

  • 115 Sazzer // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    @SuperShearer
    Porto, also Udinese, Ajax runs good numbers. Arsenal, Benfica and also Sevilla if I remember correctly runs decent.
    I can imagine Porto will replace Hulk with Elkeson or Oscar Dos Santos. Perhaps Lucas Moura. Then cash in some profit in few years.

  • 116 Rotonda heights // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    Toon Andy

    we have a wage ceiling and if we break ti for one player, it sets a precedent and hands all the power back to the players and their greedy agents

  • 117 Rotonda heights // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    Swansea were great to watch. With a Cisse or ba they would have scored loads. Much rather watch them than hoof teams

  • 118 Rotonda heights // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    Sper shearer @ 88

    Is that a Barack Obama type president ?

  • 119 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    Rotonda they were painful to watch 85 mins of knocking the ball around between there gk and back four then eventually hit midfield where they lacked any form of penetration or flair were good to watch fir about 5-6 games but soon became boring and predictable

  • 120 Rotonda heights // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Geordie in japan

    Try 3 million a year

  • 121 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    Swansea ended 10th in the league and played good football imo. I dont think anyone blow them on the table played better and they were in championship last year. at times wigan play well, but they got an awful start to the season.

  • 122 kt97toonarmy // Jun 1, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    in my opinion Swansea did do well but there over rated as we proved all we need to do is defend well and they dont score

  • 123 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    We played a very good match against them, and i think we are a better team. But that does not mean everyone can use the same tactics and succeed.

  • 124 kt97toonarmy // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    from what ive been told lads we could get Adam Johnson plus 2 mill if man city get BA i think our 4-3-3 formation would be brilliant if that had Johnson in it s

  • 125 Beardo // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    So, Gameiro’s all tied up now, not announcing it officially until July 1st though – don’t tell anyone!

  • 126 mattnufc // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    All I would say is I’m glad I’m not a Swansea supporter.

  • 127 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Kt97 and Beardo,

    Proof?

  • 128 kt97toonarmy // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    teams like WBA, Liverpool or arsenal cannot cause this tactic i no cause their defense are useless teams like newcastle, norwich, everton can defend well on their day any way

  • 129 kt97toonarmy // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    BEN ARFA im already looking at that ill see what i find

  • 130 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    why would city do that deal? they can get ba for 7 million and could sell adam johnson for more than that

  • 131 kt97toonarmy // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    apparently to goal.com we have landed giroud

    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/01/3140188/hazards-world-tour-butt-to-rejoin-manchester-united-the-20

    look at augest

  • 132 Beattie25 // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    I for one would like to thank Guthrie, Lover and Smith.

    Guthrie was brought to the club as a young man with bags of potential and never quite made the grade. But flashes of brilliance and staying with us in relegation means he was a good servant to the club.

    Lover scored some vital goals, played really well at times and again was a good servant.

    Smith never did it on the pitch but obviously had a big hand in the dressing room and I wish him the best for the future.

    Our squad of 2008-2009 has nearly vanished and the memories fading. Here’s too the future.

  • 133 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Papiss9,

    That’d make sense cos more that 1 club want to exploit the release clause; in offering a swap deal, City are instantly leading to sign him.

  • 134 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    As long as a club offers £7M we have to accept the bid. It all depends on what Ba and his agents wants. I hope he stays

  • 135 neilinho // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    Lads, just want to throw a few names into the ring here. They’re all free agents; let me know what you think…

    Almunia, Klasnic, Bosingwa, Kalou, McFadden, Assulin, Hargreaves, Pogrebnyak, Saha, Tchoyi, Scharner, Rodellega

    Now, i’m not saying that any of these players are first teamers, but i remember Assulin in particular was highly rated at Barca a couple of years back, i was thinking more cover or extra bodies…

  • 136 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:17 PM

    @Papiss9

    What happens if multiple clubs put a bid in for Ba at the same time?

    Newcastle could offer 3m and Ba for Johnson, thus rendering the release clause useless.

  • 137 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:17 PM

    Neilinho

    Of those players I would try to get Kalou, Rodallega and Scharner (as squadplayer).

  • 138 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    Pogrebnyak released!
    Didn’t they sign him pretty recently?

  • 139 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    @ Ben arfa

    “from what ive been told lads we could get Adam Johnson plus 2 mill if man city get BA i think our 4-3-3 formation would be brilliant if that had Johnson in it s”

    Thats City paying us £2M plus adam j. to get Ba.

    That’s a deal I dont think city would fancy

  • 140 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    neilinho in order
    No, no, no, no, hell no, maybe, never in a million fcuking years, yes, no, no, no and finally another hell no

  • 141 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    If Newcastle don’t want to lose out they should look to offload Ba in a swap deal with or without cash, surely?

  • 142 kt97toonarmy // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    i would only have kalou out of those 3 papiss for depth as you state

  • 143 kt97toonarmy // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120601/newcastle-target-tells-rennes-im-173479

    1 of our transfer targets according to talk sport

  • 144 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    Agree Papiss, it’s not like they need the money. If it were the other way round with us adding money, then that’d make much more sense.

  • 145 neilinho // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    @ toonarmydownsouth haha, guess there is a good reason why they’re free. Assulin might be worth a punt and Pogrebnyak was pulling up trees at Fulham in the games he played..

  • 146 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    Papiss9 scharner? Really? A 32 yr old midfielder who been released by west brom?? Sorry but theres bolstering the squad and then theres just signing players for the sake off it jesus we’d be better off keeping smith

  • 147 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem):
    June 1st, 2012 at 6:18 PM
    Pogrebnyak released!
    Didn’t they sign him pretty recently?

    Originally only on a 6 month contract for some bizarre reason!

    neilinho
    Agreed on assulin must be hard for young players to progress at city and that lad look cracking for fulham

  • 148 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    I just had a look at our squad. After the released players we have 21 players who are 22 years or older. (that includes 4 keepers). I dont think we will register more than 3 keepers (fraser on loan again).

    That gives us 20 players who are older than 22.

    Then we should buy 4-5 players and replace players who are sold. If we can manage to buy 4-5 very good players I’ll be very very happy.

  • 149 kt97toonarmy // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    this is quite interesting all the released players any u think worth signing

    http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/other/premier-league-released-list.pdf

  • 150 Sazzer // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    Neilinho
    I think most of their wage bills will not be worth it. Scharner I kind of like. But he’s too old.

  • 151 neilinho // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    to be fair i thought that Pogrebnyak was signed only on loan, but skysports have listed the released players and he was on there, strange that it was only a 6 month signing..

  • 152 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    kt97toonarmy
    Prob just diame tbf
    Any 1 see jak alnwick brother has been relseased by spuds

  • 153 Sazzer // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    Most interesting think was that Hoilett isn’t on list. Shouldn’t he supposed to be? Or my mistake? Perhaps he’s already tied up but not announced it.

  • 154 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    @Sazzer,

    I expected to see a lot more players on the Blackburn released lost; have no clue why he isn’t there.

    How much do you guys think Marvin Martin would be and is a move to SJP for him likely?

  • 155 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    list*

  • 156 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    would love to see marvin martin at the club.. I think many clubs will be watching him in the euros and the price will at least be £8M

  • 157 ToonDownSouth // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    Marvin said that a move to a non-CL club would be a pointless move.

    So it’s safe to say, we won’t be signing him.

  • 158 Beardo // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    You’ve got some issues Beattie, I think you need some counselling, to help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you get down some.

  • 159 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    This would be just beautiful:
    ——————————Krul————————
    —Debuchy—Colocinni—–Saylor—Santon—
    —————————–Tioté————————
    ——————Cabaye——–Martin—————
    —Ben Arfa————–Cissé———Johnson—

    I hope that Ba + cash swap for Johnson is true because then we don’t lose out.

  • 160 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    @TDS,

    He’s coming from a club which only just escaped relegation- a move to a EL team is still a step forward. And it’s Newcastle of all clubs, essentially a pilgrimage for quality French players ;)

  • 161 neilinho // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    actually, does anybody think Johnathan Woodgate, a 1 yr pay as you play deal would have been worth a shout?

  • 162 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    @ ben arfa

    dreamteam;)

  • 163 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    @Papiss9,

    Messi’s doesn’t even make the starting XI, he’s on the bench :)

  • 164 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    Hahah, supersub!!

  • 165 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    Dortmund want Martin as a replacement for Kagawa, I reckon they’ll break the bank to get him :( In Carr, we trust.

  • 166 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 7:05 PM

    I love how Smith is the pic on the retained list: http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20120601/magpies-announce-retained-list_2281670_2795339

  • 167 Papiss9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    We are linked with afellay, and price is pretty good. the same team as you put up, but with a diffrent midfield:

    ——–Tiote——Cabaye—–
    Ben arfa–Afellay—Johnson

  • 168 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    Afellay would be a riskier move than signing Ba – he’s injury prone and the 80k wages just take the Papiss!

  • 169 davybtoon // Jun 1, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    So tavernier, dummitt, Newton, Inman n Richardson have all been offered new deals

  • 170 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Vertonghen has just ruined his career…

  • 171 SwedishMagpie // Jun 1, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    Sky confirms: Ajax and Belgium defender Jan Vertonghen confirms he will join Tottenham within the next few days. :/

  • 172 Sazzer // Jun 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    Dortmund already somewhat replaced Kagawa with Reus. But would’t be surprised if they went for Martin also. Otherwise, I think Martin will end up in Lille as Hazard replacement unless he wants to play in Premier League. Another player I fond of the I think is better than Martin is Verratti. However, he’s most likely to end up staying within in Italy and probably follow Zeman to Roma. Even if I think we can afford them I think they might prefer other clubs unfortunately. That leaves us with Fetfatzidis and Brahimi, Corgnet, Miche, Affellay, Elia. Benat. Rasmus Elm. Hoilett. Djuricic Jacob Butterfield , Emre Can and few others flair players perhaps from Brazil, Africa and memory loss that give deep and hopefully take our offensive play to next level on cheap.

  • 173 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 7:58 PM

    Crap.not much choice left then sazzer

  • 174 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    Guys…Only 3 months and the transfer window would have slammed shut!

    God help us all

  • 175 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    Memory loss?

  • 176 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    Cwarr….You know…the great footballing nation of Memory Loss

  • 177 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    I know ibiza its a desperate time.

  • 178 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    Ah of course. How could i forget?…….

  • 179 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    Who have given us such greats as:

    1) You know, what’s his name
    2) That Lad, Thingy
    3) The name escapes me

  • 180 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:03 PM

    Cwarr….Maybe you have blood ties to a Memory Loss national?

  • 181 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:05 PM

    Along with Thingymajig. The world renowned striker that plays for erm ….. You know…..

  • 182 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    Im Thingymajig’s agent

  • 183 seantoon // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:08 PM

    I’d make a cheeky bid for kaboul or Dawson then. One of them are going to be playing sub all season unless Gallas gets the boot.

  • 184 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:08 PM

    At some point sazzer will explain im sure

  • 185 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    Wow, who would be in your memory loss XI?

    Maybe Owen for forgetting he was a footballer?

  • 186 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    Oh yeah…he was a cracking player….scored all of those….ermmm….things where the ball goes in the…errr….bars with a net…ermmm…you get what I’m saying :)

    Wow…..June 1st and we’ve created a fantasy land already. Mind you, I suppose I’ve been involved in such things before.

  • 187 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    Rob Green in goal for forgetting how to kick from a pass back?

  • 188 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:13 PM

    Seantoon….I fancy a Carr find over Dawson or Kaboul personally. If there not really good enough to keep their spot at Spurs, not sure they’re what we should be looking at.

  • 189 lukes26 // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:13 PM

    vertonghen’s a steal at 10 million, if that was the price. he’s solid. no weaknesses.

  • 190 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Luke….No weaknesses? I reckon Tiote can find a weak spot somewhere :)

    But yes, looks a good buy at £10m

  • 191 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    Lukes, you’ve cursed him now. Watch Carroll walk all over him tomorrow ;)

  • 192 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    @Sean. Not sure they’re what we’re after ire which id rather have tbh. I like ksboul but Dawson. Is arguably better when in form

  • 193 seantoon // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:19 PM

    They are good enough for tottenhams team that’s the reason they finished 4th this season. Just Harry has to stick his dirty nose in any of our possible signings! Both players would be quality signings. And I think we should make bids to unsettle them just as Harry does with our players. Play them at there own game!

  • 194 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:20 PM

    Cwarr…Would you care to clear that up a bit? :)

  • 195 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:20 PM

    Bad news then. Maybe Jan wanted to live in London. Our priorities now are Aldereweild and Mbiwa. Gutted to miss out on Vertonghen. He was just what we needed. Hopefully Bale and Modric will leave Spurs.

  • 196 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    @ibiza I’ve been known to create fantasy lands of my own. We were once neighbors i believe

  • 197 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:23 PM

    No ibiza ill leave it how it is. That’s how we sometimes speak where im from

  • 198 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:23 PM

    Seantoon….I did say not good enough to “keep” their spots, i.e. they’re being replaced by better.

    They’re not bad players at all and could have a role at the club, I personally would prefer a Carr find though. Possibly a mistake :)

  • 199 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:24 PM

    Good idea ketsbaia. Give tottenham ba for bale in return. Left wing sorted.

  • 200 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:25 PM

    Cwarr….We certainly were. I often think fondly of our neighborhood watch meetings and Sunday BBQ’s…..simpler times

    @197…Fair enough then :)

  • 201 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:27 PM

    If only you paid taxes on top of transfer fees, just imagine how fcked ‘Arry would be

  • 202 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:27 PM

    Do you think graham Carr plays fifa and laughs at the player ratings.
    All while Alan minces about talking about fabulous tackles and how he loves to see a strong striker riding the tackle.

  • 203 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    Graham Carr probably has the France U21 side as his ultimate team

  • 204 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    No need for the neighborhood watch. People could be trusted. I often used to leave the front of my house open like a dolls house. I knew i would never be robbed. Is that just a little optimi……. No i can’t do it

  • 205 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    How is Santon not in the Italy squad??

  • 206 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    @Ben arfa lol. While Alan has a bunch of part time firemen as his? In a uniform reminiscent of David Beckhams underwear ads

  • 207 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:33 PM

    Cwarr…There was never a need, but it was always good for a recharge of….Optimism…Yeah, I went there :)

    I think EA Sports should ask Carr what the ratings should be.

  • 208 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:34 PM

    @Graham Cwarr

    “While Alan has a bunch of part time firemen as his? In a uniform reminiscent of David Beckhams underwear ads”

    Please say you’re talking about Alan Carr and not Pardew.

  • 209 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    Obviously. Pardew would have 11 perchys lol.
    Alex Ferguson would have 12 Howard webbs

  • 210 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    I am always beaming with optimism. Anyway enough of the past. Lets look to our future. Hail pardew. Hazzah.

  • 211 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    Now that poses a new, perhaps unusual, question.

    If you could clone one player to form a whole team (11 of the same player) from the Newcastle squad, who would you chose and why?

  • 212 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    and yes, I have already had enough of transfer speculation

  • 213 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    Cabaye – can defend, can go forward.

    No doubt the Scousers would have said Enrique because he can keep ;)

  • 214 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    Superperch. We know he vmcan defend and pass.
    Can Play left right and centre.
    Im sure there was a report saying he was the best in a training session based on finishing.

  • 215 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:46 PM

    Not sure about his skill in nets though lol

  • 216 pizzicatochan // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM

    This released player list is crazy. I can see a team or two of EPL fighters!

  • 217 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    @Cwarr, Ibiza;

    Would you welcome the acquisition of Marvin Martin? And what would you think would be an appropriate transfer fee given our tIght budget?

  • 218 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    It’s a tough one…Part of me goes Tiote. Try getting past 11 tiotes! Plus he certainly can smack a shot too.

    Then you have Benny boy. Granted his defending isn’t the best, but 11 of him would make anyone dizzy. If 1 Arfa can take on 5-6 players…just imagine.

    Then what about Cisse? 11 Players who can score from anywhere.

    Maybe we’ve got a perfect balance with the current team :)

  • 219 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    Ben Arfa….I’ve heard lots of good things and would definitely welcome his arrival. On cost, don’t really have a clue. Given our tight budget, I suppose on a free would be good :)

  • 220 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:51 PM

    If only Sochaux paid us to take Martin off them :)

  • 221 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    Ben Arfa…It would seem the easiest way really ;)

  • 222 Big Pappa Cisse // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    Anyone else seen that story about a guy high on drugs eating another mans face in Miami, The apocalypse has started lol. And how exactly are Russia the 11th best team in the world ?

  • 223 Beattie25 // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    I’d go for 11 Ameobis.

    We’d get hammered but it would be hilarious watching 11 Ameobis plod around the pitch.

  • 224 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    Allllriiigghhtty then….I am off for some food. I may pop in a little later to see if the Messi deal has finally been concluded.

    Bye for now!

  • 225 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    Beattie….Trust you :)

    Big Pappa Cisse…What bloody drugs was he supposedly on? I’ve heard of people chewing their own faces off, but not others :)

  • 226 Beattie25 // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    Had Stevie Harper been kept on?

    Least with Guthrie, Lover and Smith going we’ve got about 85k a week in wages freed up

  • 227 Big Pappa Cisse // Jun 1, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    @Ibiza LSD or summit ha, its about the fith case of it aswell

  • 228 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:00 PM

    He was on pcp.
    Ben rfa i don’t really know much about Martin.
    Beayttie you little bugger lol

  • 229 Sazzer // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:03 PM

    @Cwarr
    Memory loss just means great players I forgot to put up in as option while writing. Barnetta, Johnson etc.

    @ibiza and arfa
    11 Kruls would save the day!

  • 230 Beattie25 // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:06 PM

    Graham Cwarr I have a feeling that you and I are destined for something brilliant

  • 231 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:07 PM

    @sazzer. But only 1 krul could use his hands

  • 232 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    I have the same feeling. I can feel it in my loins

  • 233 Beattie25 // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    I can feel it in your loins too.

  • 234 Sazzer // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    @cwarr
    True. But would be fun to watch.

  • 235 GeordieToon89 // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:20 PM

    So Jaaskeleinen has signed for West Ham apparently and Green is signing for Tottenham and Ben Foster could be on his way to QPR, goal keeper merry go round and West Ham United are slowly becoming West Ham Wanderers sure they fans love that

  • 236 jesperfuglsang // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:46 PM

    The news topics today are boring.

    What’s new with NUFC? :-D

  • 237 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:47 PM

    @beattie you already broke my heart once.
    @Gt89 Big sams influence is so obvious. He builds the same team everywhere

  • 238 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:48 PM

    @jesper we operate in such a cloak and dagger way that the news forest pick up until the day we sign somebody

  • 239 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:50 PM

    Forest? Only even

  • 240 jesperfuglsang // Jun 1, 2012 at 9:56 PM

    Could we get on with signing someone then ;) lol

  • 241 Jail for Ashley // Jun 1, 2012 at 10:04 PM

    It was a new synthetic drug banned in most states but due to renaming and legal loopholes available in gas stations in others.Put that in ya pipe and smoke it.

  • 242 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 10:22 PM

    Pcp was a guess

  • 243 ToonAndy // Jun 1, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    How about….

    ————————-KRUL———————

    DEBUCHY–SAYLOR-COLLO–SANTON

    ——————TIOTE—CABAYE————

    BEN ARFA——DE JONG—DZSUDZSAK

  • 244 ToonAndy // Jun 1, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    Ooops….

    ————————-KRUL———————

    DEBUCHY–SAYLOR-COLLO–SANTON

    ——————TIOTE—CABAYE————

    BEN ARFA——DE JONG—DZSUDZSAK

    ————————CISSE———————-

  • 245 JAMSHA // Jun 1, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    brahimi has the same agent of Sylvain Marveaux…. wish we could get him

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/wb-sportmanagement/details/berater_1686.html

  • 246 JAMSHA // Jun 1, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    any1 a cheeky bid for Yannis Tafer :-P this guy looks ok on fifa 12

  • 247 JAMSHA // Jun 1, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    any news on the new home an 3rd kit?

  • 248 ToonAndy // Jun 1, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    A man called alvin tehau has scored 9 goals tonight for A team called tahiti against Samoa…. 9 goals!!!

  • 249 ToonAndy // Jun 1, 2012 at 10:54 PM

    Ops sorry… There was 4 “Tehaus” playing for the same team! Haha all brothers :O

  • 250 Jail for Ashley // Jun 1, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    Chiek,
    That wasn’t off the top off my head I had to google it,I would have guessed brown ale.

  • 251 Robinio // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    yeh yeh guys , all this speculation is pointless we will never sign a top established player cos FCB wont pay the wages

  • 252 Robinio // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:05 PM

    you would be better off googling who has been released in the French second div

  • 253 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:38 PM

    Who peed in robinios cornflakes?

  • 254 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    If by top established player you mean big expensive name then no he won’t fork.out for one.
    Test said papiss cisse had one of the best scoring records in Europe. The money was available for him.
    If we sign a big name and put him on huge wages then it will demoralize the team. One great player is not worth ruining team spirit.
    We will sign players to take the team forward. Players who will fit in quite easily.
    We will not sign a player living of their reputation and name who will demand to be the highest paid because he’s the highest profile player at the club.
    Robinio while your point is correct that we will not sign a top established star. You say it for all the wrong reasons.
    You want luque? Kluivert? Hell Michael Owen is available lets get him.
    Get a grip man.

  • 255 graham cwarr // Jun 1, 2012 at 11:59 PM

    * that said




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