Senegal Striker Situation At Newcastle Is Unique


We all know that every single player has his price these days at Newcastle.

Demba Ba – can reject any offers made to him

And if any club comes along and meets that asking price, then Newcastle will sell their players, and there’s not much the player himself can do about it.

That’s because the Newcastle Board have decided the money they get for the player is worth more to Newcastle, than the player staying at the club.

That’s nearly always going to be true, unless Newcastle don’t get their asking price for the player, and that’s the case with Demba Ba, if it’s through his release clause being activated.

If any club comes along and bids the release price, said to be around £7M, then there’s absolutely nothing Newcastle can do about that.

The release clause is said to be active only in June and July this summer, and if nothing happens by the time August 1st rolls around, Newcastle fans can let out a sigh of relief, because he will be staying – or at least he will go for his market price after that.

However, there is something the player himself can do about it, if Spurs or some other club comes in for him before August 1st, and that’s to turn down the new deal made by the bidding club.

Of course his agents will be pressing Demba Ba to do the deal, because they only get paid when their client signs  a new deal, but Newcastle could offer the Senegal striker a new deal – if he stays.

There’s been different accounts in the press over the last couple of months, about whether Newcastle would be willing to renegotiate the 26 year-old’s contract, which now has only two years left to run.

But that’s one way his agents could be made happy, as they will get paid for negotiating the new deal with Newcastle.

But it’s really down to Demba Ba, whether he accepts a new offer from another club or not, and he has continually said he is happy on Tyneside, and loves the fans.

It’s simply a different case with the 26 year-old this summer, than with any other Newcastle player.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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26 comments so far

  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jun 7, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #1

    What was the outcome with Neil Taylor last season? All we heard about was his release clause then all of a sudden it wasn’t a proper clause or something. Is there nothing we can do with Ba? The clubs almost silence on the issue either means they’re scr*w*d or know it’s not enforceable and are just waiting for ‘arry to come out and say i’ve offered the £7m and Ba is coming for the club to turn around and say, no, pay us more.

    Either way, I would love to know what the real deal is, but doubt we’ll ever know the full scope. Oh well, onwards and upwards *sigh*

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  • TorqToon

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #2

    Taking of signing…I’m very excited to hear the news that Mr Debuchy has signed later!!! Nice work transfer sage! Be the first to let us all know! 🙂

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  • Eastander

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #3

    Wouldnt be too fussed if he leaves, our two main strikers are Cisse and Ba, both of whom we will lose pre season to the Olympics and both we will lose to the African Cup of Nations.

    Right now I can only see us signing an average striker if the likes of Leon Best leaves which means we will have to rely on them during the ACON, if Ba leaves we will have to replace him with someone at least half decent along the likes of Luuk De Jong. At least the way when the ACON is on we have one top striker to play.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #4

    For all those who are drunk,

    Debuchy, is in either Poland or Ukraine. so how will medical be done. i will say hold your horses.

    Jesus, sanity please

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  • GeordieToon89

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #5

    Ibiza – Bas clause only works for champ league teams, everyone else has to pay market value

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  • barcodejoe

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #6

    anyone heard anything about Jordan Rhodes comming to the TOON?

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  • LooneyToon41

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #7

    @1. IbizaToon. Very good point about Neil Taylor. His clause ‘allowed him to speak to other clubs’ but Swansea still didn’t have to sell at the price in the clause. Very confusing. I guess, all contracts can be written differently.

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  • GeordieToon89

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #8

    Also from last article, we already agreed a £2million deal in Forsters loan deal when he went to Celtic for the season so we have to accept their bid no matter what but someone else can still offer more we accept and its down to fraser to discuss deal

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #9

    GT89…Has that been confirmed or is it more speculation?

    Indian…Is there anyone on here not drunk?

    Looney…They certainly can be written differently. I suppose time will tell

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #10

    Ibiza,

    its B4 Noon in some parts of the world

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #12

    Indian..It is here too. Does no one else use vodka or their cereal? I’m starting to think this isn’t normal.

    Did everyone else used to have whiskey in their baby bottle as well?

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #13

    I still think Ba is staying; it might not suit his agent since they just want to get paid – BUT it cannot see the likes of Citeh, United, Arsenal or Chelsea coming in for him and moving to the bin dippers or ‘Arry’s team would just be moving side ways if you ask me

    …or moving just for the money, ’cause Ba might just have to warm the bench at those clubs any way.

    So why move if you’re happy and playing the kind of football you want to week in and week out?

    Can only see him leave if there is a contract issue; I think he’s staying and I hope he is.

    Best will be off loaded and so will Ranger, so we still need a new striker.

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  • bills-son

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #14

    Ed, you say “We all know that every single player has his price these days at Newcastle.That’s because the Newcastle Board have decided the money they get for the player is worth more to Newcastle, than the player staying at the club.”

    That is such a slanted view of the transfer strategy it could have been written by an anti-Toon red top reporter. I know you want to spark a discussion but don’t practically slag Ashley off at the same time.

    The simple fact is in two seasons since promotion we’ve taken the money for ONE player – Carroll. What you and no fan knows is WHAT PRICE Ashley values our top players at. One thing is for certain, they aint going cheap, and every other club knows that. We are very strong financially, debt free apart from Ashley’s personal loan, in Europe next season with the extra cash that generates and players – as far as we know – aren’t demanding moves.

    Painting a picture that the Toon are just an out and out ‘sell at the right price’ club is way off the mark. And an insult to the club IMO.

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  • toonincheek

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #15

    I’ve seen it suggested a couple of times that his release clause only applies to CL clubs – is that the general opinion?

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  • TorqToon

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #16

    Indian – sense the tone mate!! That tone would be sarcasm! Nobody expects debuchy to sign today…just waiting for ‘transfer sage’ to fall flat on his face!

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jun 7, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #17

    Bills-son….I don’t think Ed speculated what the “right price” was, so why the need for your post?

    I’m pretty sure Ed has well covered the fact that Ashley doesn’t sell undervalue and in the AC case did a great job at getting top money for him and that if any other big players were to be sold, it would be at top money.

    How is this incorrect or slating Ashley?

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  • Munster Mag

    Jun 7, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #18

    Bill-son thats pretty much a fair point. I think we could have tried gharder to keep enrique who was a class act IMO, and I wonder sometimes about the spin coming out of the club re offering him “the biggest contract ever” , or whatever. All in all though, Barton was sold because he must have been a dressing room nightmare, Nolan because he was taking over the shop ( does this mean Allardyce is a better man manager than Pardew ? 🙂 ) and slow , and Carroll because he was overpriced…..This summer will tell much, but I’m confident. BTW, whats this about Debuchy ?

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  • arctoa

    Jun 7, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #19

    @18

    There were rumours that Enrique was kicking up a stink in the dressing room; trying to convince other players not to sign new contracts and such. I don’t know how much truth is in the rumour but if there’s any, then there’s the reason for shipping him out for a reasonably low fee.

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  • TorqToon

    Jun 7, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #20

    Munster – Some dude called Transfer Sage claimed to be ITK and said that we would announce the signing of debuchy today. He was very adamant that he would prove us all wrong (…I hope he does!) but can’t see it myself due to the euros etc. said he wouldn’t post on here again until today when the deal has been done.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jun 7, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #21

    Thanks Torq. Wasnt there a bloke called Cwarr making claims along the same lines last summer? Incidentally, can anyone confirm if ther is a new home kit out this summer. I want to indoctrinate my 1 year old…..

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  • arctoa

    Jun 7, 2012 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #22

    There’ll be a new home kit; we’ve had yearly ones for a while now. I’m surprised there’s no news about it but it’s probably intentional to ensure that the away kit sells plenty of units.

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  • James

    Jun 7, 2012 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #23

    I wouldn’t worry… I’d say it’s unlikely Ba will ever pass a medical anywhere because of his knee. Even if £7m is offered and he agrees personal terms, that’s not the end of the story. But on the flip side of the coin, take the £7m and add it to the £2m for Forster and you’ve got yourself two Cabayes… Or another Cisse near enough. Personally I’d take it- we’d be making money on him and whilst he was prolific earlier in the season, his goal scoring dropped off dramatically in the crucial tail-end of the season. I think we need a consistent performer with a decent goals to game ratio to rely on for a constant supply of goals… Just not Michael Owen!

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  • shamsoftabriz

    Jun 7, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #24

    I think that 26 is about the ceiling for Demba Ba. We rolled the dice with him and came out big winners this year. There is no reason to expect the same next year. That may be the case with any of our high performing players, but I think Ba carries more risk than the rest of the lot. Sell high. If we replace him with L. De Jong, we’ll be just fine.

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  • custurd

    Jun 7, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #25

    “! … Newcastle will sell their players, and there’s not much the player himself can do about it.”

    Of course there is. Any contracted player can refuse to leave. Simple.

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  • toonbrother

    Jun 7, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    Comment #26

    He doesnt owe the club anything. This is the club that didnt have the decency to give Guthrie a new contract even though he bailed us out in January when Tiote was away and Cabaye injured. If I were Ba i’d take the deal and not bother myself with all this love for the club cr*p. Such love clearly isnt reciprocated by the club. Nobody will begrudge him if he decided to leave

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