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Decent Display By England – Good 1-1 Draw With France

7:04 pm, Monday, June 11th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 159 Comments

England drew 1-1 with France in the Ukraine today,  after taking the lead in the first half.

Yohan Cabaye challenges Danny Welbeck

And we’re sure Roy Hodgson and the England players would have taken that before this game, in which the England defense looked strong and well organized.

England went ahead through Jolean Lescott after 30 minutes with a nice header from the Manchester City center-back, but nine minutes later it was Samir Nasri who equalized for France, and the opposition had much of the ball tonight, with England defending for large portions of this game.

The game started with each side carefully probing at the opposition, and then after 15 minutes former Newcastle winger should really have scored, when a great through pass saw him round the goalkeeper, but he hit his shot wide of a gaping goal – a bad miss by the England winger, who has never scored an International goal for England.

Then a few minutes later Yohan Cabaye, who was looking good in midfield for France, had an excellent shot that goalkeeper Joe Hart had to save well, low to his left.

And then England went ahead after 30 minutes, and they seemed to show the weakness of France’s central defense, and a perfect cross from captain Steven Gerrard from a free-kick,  was headed in by Jolean Lescott from just four yards out – a bad goal for France to concede.

And now could England maintain their lead, and after 35 minutes Joe Hart made fantastic save from a header from Diarra, and then in the follow-up Diarra headed the ball wide,  when he really should have scored.

But after 39 minutes France were level, and it was another Manchester City player – this time Samir Nasri – who scored.

Samir got the ball about 30 yards out, but the England defenders were slow to close him down, and his shot beat Joe Hart low to his right – but it looked like Hart should have done  better, although he may have been unsighted.

Jolean Lescott heads in Steven Gerrard cross from four yards out

At the half it was 1-1,  with France starting to come more into the game and attacking England,  and the England players playing too deep.

There were no  changes made at the start of the second half, and on 49 minutes James Milner gave a suicidal pass back to Joe Hart,  who just got to the ball ahead of an intervening French player – a bit of a let-off for England.

On 65 minutes the ever dangerous Benzema had a good shot on goal, which Joe Hart saved well down to his right,  but at this stage France had been out-shooting England by 11 -2,  which gives you an idea about who was trying to win this game and who were trying not to lose it.

On 77 minutes Hodgson made a double change, with Jermain Defoe coming on for Oxlade-Chamnberlain who had done quite well, and former Sunderland  midfielder Jordan Henderson came on for former Newcastle midfielder Scotty Parker.

On 81 minutes Yohan Cabye had a terrific shot, which was going in just inside the pose, but the ball was deflected by an England defender for a corner.

And then France made a double change on 84 minutes ,  with Newcastle star Ben Arfa  coming on for Malouda,  and Martin coming on for Yohan Cabaye.

As England supporters, we were happy enough that the Newcastle winger had been introduced so late in the game, because he’s a potential match-winner if ever we saw one, and that’s exactly what the English commentators said when the skillful Frenchman  came on.

England were seeing out this game, and it was obvious from the time wasting towards the end, that England were very happy with the point, and in truth it was a solid performance from England,  in a game they just couldn’t lose.

But they will need to show more attacking prowess against Sweden and the Ukraine,  in the last two games of  Group D.

Cabaye had a good game tonight, and Mathieu Debuchy looked more than decent at right back for the French.

Note to Alan Pardew – sign him up!

Comments welcome.



Tags: Euro 2012 · European Competition · Hatem Ben Arfa · Newcastle News · Yohan Cabaye





159 responses so far ↓

  • 1 SupaToonKid // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:05 PM

    From last post

    Elia definitely would be a good signing if the fee was right. I really hope we can agree a deal with Lille for Debuchy soon as the lad was superb for France tonight.

    On the England vs France; that’s the most entertaining England have played since beating Germany 5-1 in 2001. Still got dominated in the 2nd half though!

  • 2 Indian Magpie // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    More minutes for henderson than HBA :roll:

  • 3 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    Patrick Viera is spot on: Blanc was too defensive and waited ages before bringing on the more attack-minded Martin and Ben Arfa.

  • 4 hotdog // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    I thought Ashley young would be our secret weapon. Just goes to show what I know he hardly got a kick! Welbeck our mom for me.

  • 5 Indian Magpie // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    nxt game HBA for Malouda from start

  • 6 OoAhDembaBa // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    Dennis Wise just said on my telecast that Cabaye isn’t a world class player…

  • 7 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    We need to get either Debuchy or Cissokho, Marvin Martin and Giroud signed up.

  • 8 hotdog // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    If somebody sees the little short arse prick will they stick the nut on him!

  • 9 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    Cabaye is good enough, but I think I would start Martin next game. Ben Arfa should also start ahead of Malouda. A bit surprised Mbiwa didn’t make it.

  • 10 Toon1978 // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    England played well in the first half but where a little disappointing in the second but a draw against the French is very good. As for France, Blanc seems clueless. He takes Cabaye off who was one of the best players for France and then brings on HBA with 5 minutes to go. What does Blanc expect two offensive players to do with minutes to go especially when the rest of the French team are tired with the heat and the graft they have already done? Never mind, i did England a favour in the end. Great goals by both Lescott and Nasri. Chamberlain is a quality little player and Arsenal a lucky to have him.

  • 11 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    Ohahdembaba who gives a fcuk what tge little sh1t thinks he thought xisco was a world class player worth £60k a week!

  • 12 tomtoon7 // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Welbeck played well,young needs 2improve but i’ll take draw,important not 2 get beat. Great 2see Cabaye(my Mrs dreamboat)playin well.

  • 13 Toon1978 // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    Dennis Wise is a poisonous little rat that should have been given a kicking years ago. He is mr EGO.

  • 14 Indian Magpie // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    May be according to wise, henderson is better than cabaye.

    after all he is a wise man

  • 15 tomtoon7 // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    Dennis wise is a top class prick,he wouldnt know a beardo from a WEIRDO(Tho who would),after all didnt e bring xisco into the Toon!

  • 16 cyprus // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    England played a chelsea…

  • 17 ToonDownSouth // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:30 PM

    No… no they didn’t…

  • 18 cyprus // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    At least my bet won

  • 19 OoAhDembaBa // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:35 PM

    Oh and another statement of his “France don’t have world class quality across the midfield”

    Poor bastard

  • 20 Klatoon // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    This Debuchy thing is portugal RB Miguel and Euro 2004 all over again. If he also ends up at Valencia…i’ll laugh outta rage :-)

  • 21 ToonDownSouth // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    Cabye isn’t a world class player though. Not by my definition anyway. World class in my book eans one of the top few players in that position in the world.

    Let’s be serious here: if he was, he wouldn’t be played for us…

  • 22 ToonDownSouth // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    Cabaye* means*

    doh.

  • 23 Beardo // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    Tomtoon

    Back in your box schoolboy. Brush up on your English, it’s appalling. I know you’re trying in your latest post, but it’s still below par. Some of our overseas fans write more proficiently than you; embarrassing really, undermines your whole ‘contribution’ – just some friendly advice ;)

  • 24 Beardo // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:47 PM

    Time to settle down and cast an eye over Elm now!

  • 25 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 11, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    Yeah Miguel and Seitaridis. Debuchy has just made Danny Simpson look like a non-league player. What an engine and sense of flair Debuchy has.

  • 26 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    Just goes to show that Dennis Wise knows f all… What did Carr say about Cabaye again?

  • 27 Spellcheck // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:10 PM

    Beardo, i’m an avid fan of this blog but your belittling of fellow fans is a disgrace,you truly have a high opinion of yourself. I teach english but i dont comprehend why you feel the need to be such a cock(pardon me ed). Get over your egotistical ways.. please sir. UP THE TOON!!

  • 28 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    Loadsacomments about how Woy is a dull and uninspiring manager. Maybe, just maybe, the players are mostly journeymen and lack class.
    Wonder what the bindippers will do without Gerrard who is world class but also looking more and more burnt out.

  • 29 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Beardo,
    Who the fu*k do you think you are ?

  • 30 Beattie25 // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:23 PM

    Yay!!

    The blog is returning to it’s former glory!

    You bitches

  • 31 rswaz90 // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:24 PM

    Ketsbaia9, less of the Simmo hating mate, he’s still a top RB.
    Your right though Debuchy looked class, did think that he had to be careful as to how much time he was spending upfield though – he was caught out a few time on the break from England. Still well worth his signature

  • 32 Beattie25 // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    Anybody watching the Ukraine game??

    The boy at LW looks a bit special Konoplyanka. Their CB Khacheridi looks beast.

  • 33 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    handbags at dawn again ?

  • 34 Beardo // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    JFA

    Not Peter Beardsley, poppet!

  • 35 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    Beattie have missed the first half how have tiovonen and elm been playing??

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM

    Beardo,
    You don’t happen to be a pompous git doing a law degree in Belfast who because of a good education thinks he’s a cut above everybody else?

  • 37 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    Ah chris waddle fcuking legend!!

  • 38 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    Bloody hell schevchenko! Forgot he even exsisted!

  • 39 jesperfuglsang // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    I think England had a decent game today; they can be proud of themselfs.

    Well done England. ..i was a little bit dissapointed with the performance of France and I dont quite understand Blanc’ choice of starting formation and why so late subs. There was no time for any impact what so ever.

  • 40 wynsleap // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    England as usual – dull, uninspiring, predictable and totally lacking flair and imagination. There again – why change the habits of a lifetime?
    Why didn’t Hodgson bring Carroll on? The Lescott goal showed where France were vulnerable – in the air at the back.
    Walcott, Defoe and Henderson – you have to be kidding!
    The commentator said, when Parker was coming off, “that was a typical game for Parker” – yeah right – full of running around going in circles and creating zilch (just like when he played for us). Gerrard – seen better days has Stevie G.
    Cabaye had a good game in midfield and looked like he was ready to pull the trigger whenever he found space outside the box. Mobile and passed accurately throughout
    Debuchy looked excellent – don’t think we’ll get him now if he hasn’t already been tied up by us. What was Pardew waiting for?

  • 41 lukes26 // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    Elm is average, but Tiovenen is crap. Martin Olsson is even worse.

    Ibrahemovic is by far the best player on the pitch. Talent to match the ego.

  • 42 papattack // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    job done by england, i think we’ll beat ukraine or sweden they look poor. debuchy needs to sign up aswell, he looks top class. nothing against simmo but hes in a different class.

  • 43 jesperfuglsang // Jun 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    Is anybody watching Ukrain vs. Sweden? :-)

  • 44 Beardo // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:02 PM

    Nope. I hardly think suggesting someone learn their native language and a bit of basic literacy is being a ‘pompous git’. I’d have thought Mr Precious Patriot himself would understand this? :)

  • 45 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:03 PM

    What we want is a side full of players capable of performing as class internationals for their own nation. We’re well past Frog on the Tyne days, but we need to attract players like Debuchy. Cabaye and Ben Arfa are already benefiting from how they’ve been coached and played at Newcastle for their home country. Two or three more class internationals and we’ll be very close to the top 4. Then we need top class squad players too….

  • 46 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    Beardo

    I think JFA thinks you’ve got a new monicker but were a previous frequent blogger from Belfast.

  • 47 Beattie25 // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:07 PM

    Jfa vs. Beardo

    Let the games begin.

    Also Elm looks poor, Toivanan looks poor and Schevcenko looks shit hot!!

    Remember my predictions??

    Schevcenko to be top scorer and Chelsea to buy him???

  • 48 Beattie25 // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:09 PM

    Beardo = BelfastMag??

    Surely not!

  • 49 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    He’s 35, 36 in September but he sure has shown the young pretenders how to strike

  • 50 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    Getting sick now of people pi**ing people off then just setting up a new name under a different address,if people thought your crack was sh*te enough for you to change your name without telling anybody in the first place what difference is posting under s different name going to make.

  • 51 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    England were ok today…defended very well and limited france to very few decent chances…all pot shits from distance.

    Many teams play defensive like England do…which is fine….the problem is if you settle for 40% possession you have to use it much better when you have it.

    If we can start to play a little better with the ball I’m sure we will get out the group and then anything can happen in knock out football.

  • 52 santonthenewmaldini // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    watching Debuchy tonight it was clear to see what he would bring to the table next season

    the way he was always available in the wide areas would allow us to hem teams in as we sometimes ran out of ideas last season but with him and Arfa on the right and Santon and maybe Elia on the left we would be able to supply Cisse and Ba with lots of chances per game rather than scraps

  • 53 lukes26 // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    Svennson, Mellberg, Shevchenko, Veronin, on the pitch…did my time machine actually work

  • 54 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    JFA

    Loads of new monickers on here the last few threads. Dunno how many are phoenixes. The odd troll rears its ugly head though.

  • 55 Beattie25 // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:20 PM

    Beardo

    Are you goalsbringsmiles? Are you solano?

  • 56 Transfer Sage // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:20 PM

    Debuchy is a done deal.

    The fee was agreed at 9.4 million euros last week.

    This deal is pending a medical which will go through once France have been eliminated from the Euros.

  • 57 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    rich

    Like the idea of ‘pot shits from distance’. Just want to hear Motty say “That was a real crapper from 30 yards”

  • 58 Beattie25 // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    Ja ha ha ha ha

    The sage is back!!!

    Ha ha ha ha

    Good prediction last week.

  • 59 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:23 PM

    Beattie

    Solano lives in Lima.

  • 60 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:23 PM

    oops a typo there guys….obviously meant pot shots.

    @mfh…brilliant….would love that commentary

  • 61 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:24 PM

    Btw Beattie,
    Everyone new straight away that little phase you had was you anyway so that doesn’t count !

  • 62 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Rich

    Naw

    ‘Sweden just hit a pot shit ‘ – sounds much better

  • 63 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    Beardo,
    In all your wisdom can you explain to me the wrongs of being a patriot !

  • 64 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    Transfer sage you were hardly bang on last time mate think you should prob stop sniffing glue and talking to that imaginary receptionist

  • 65 Beattie25 // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    Woah Woah Woah JFA

    We used to be brothers in arms and now you turn on me like a feral dog?

    I want to stay outta the beef man. I ain’t got no problem wit chu!

    Ease off bro. I don’t got yo back no more but I aint gonna play ya.

    Peace out

  • 66 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    Yo yo yo Beattie you still is my bro all I was sayin is that you is forgivn.

  • 67 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:41 PM

    yesterday it was all latent homosexuality, today its all patois….what’s going on ?
    (as Marvin Gaye wondered)

  • 68 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:48 PM

    MFH,
    Pre season patter is bloody tiresome,and the patois is just s bit of Marshall Mathers.

  • 69 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:52 PM

    Transfer Sage shows himself again!
    Proof of the Debuchy transfer this time or are you speaking out of your arse again?

  • 70 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:53 PM

    Jus white honky stuff then…oh well…

  • 71 grumpy_old_sod // Jun 11, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    Transfer sage

    Source?

    Notice your trying to back up last weeks claim by saying the fee was agreed last week!

  • 72 SwedishMagpie // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    Outplayed by Ukraine haha :D

  • 73 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    @ JailForAshley – My problem with anyone who claims they are a patriot is it is fundamentally based on lottery rather than reason. The idea you have to support your country regardless of logic, reason or ethics is absurd.

    The worst has got to be those who cheer “U.S.A – U.S.A!” when there is a war going on which has killed over 1 MILLION civilians.

  • 74 Transfer Sage // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    no source can be revealed exactly. It is somebody in the club but not directly involved.

    They told me a fee had been areed for debuchy and were asked to issue an announcement on thursday.

    As my source is not directly involved they presumed the announcement would be debuchy. I turned out the announcement was car. The debuchy deal is done pending the medical.

  • 75 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:06 PM

    Grumpy
    I suspect that transfer sage is the same guy using a few different names atm to wind people up.

  • 76 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:06 PM

    @ Transfer Sage,
    You sure about the fee? Cashley wouldn’t pay 7.5million considering how Newcastle didn’t want to pay more than 6m; yes it would be more but surely not that much bearing in mind the asking few was 8m

  • 77 SwedishMagpie // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    Transfer Sage
    sure….

  • 78 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    Fee**

  • 79 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:11 PM

    @gonufc

    There is a huge difference between blindly supporting a sports team and blindly supporting a government.

    Being Patriotic is a good thing in terms of supporting sports teams and fellow coutrymen in any casual endeavour.

    However you still have the right to question the decisions made by players and managers, just cause you support them doesn’t mean you agree with everything they do.

    Supporting and cheering on a political issue, like war, is totally difference and it is not unpatriotic to be against your country’s decision to be involved in war. However…you may not encourage our troops to kill….but you will, I am sure, encourage/cheer their safe return. You cannot blindly follow moral.political issues but you can still support those involved on the ground level even if you disagree with the decisions made at the top.

  • 80 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:14 PM

    9.5million euro = 7.5million pound

    seems a little steep for a player for us…but then again cisse was 8 so maybe they see debuchy on a similar level of importance.

    I personally cannot see it though….although…are there many options which are immediately better than simmo, for less than 7.5million? (i am struggling to think…maybe clyne but he might not be ready for prem league yet)

  • 81 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    For £7.5m it needs to be a good contract to wrap that one up.
    Maybe the wage package balances out the upfront fee.
    If Yohan’s told him how good it is at the Toon then there’ll be other factors than just money involved.

  • 82 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    Rich

    Go Compare…
    How much would you say Micah Richards might be for fee + wages ?

  • 83 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    Rich

    Take your points but, as another sage has it:

    ‘patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel’

  • 84 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    Gonufc,
    Dont want to get political on a football blog,but the thing that has boiled my piss is hearing from a fellow Englishman the reason he wont be supporting his country is that they aren’t very good.

  • 85 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    @mfh

    I think Richards would cost a lot…maybe 10million and wages are anybody’s guess…..he wont be on top wages at city but still around 60k a week I guess. His value depends entirely on who they sign and how much they want to keep him or get rid of him. If they sign a right back (which they might) they will probably keep zabaletta as back up over richards as Mancini see’s him as a more reliable player.

    People think we should pay around 4/5mil max for people like we did cabaye.

    cabaye was valued over 12million but fortunately he had a release clause….most players who can improve our team will not have such a low clause….I think cabaye was a bit of a one off really. It will be difficult to get a full international for less than 5million.

  • 86 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    He has an 8m release clause anyway do as long as we come in ASAP we’ll get him.

  • 87 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    @mfh

    I think being patriotic is not just following the masses in your country.

    Being patriotic to me is backing the good aspects of you country but being strong enough to stand against the negatives.

    You have a duty to not follow the lead but to stand up for what is right, even if that goes against the majority.

    But in a football sense…..get behind the team and cheer them win, lose or draw.

  • 88 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    @ben arfa

    who has an 8mil release clause?

    debuchy or richards?

  • 89 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:27 PM

    In terms of having better options at right-back than Simmo for less than £7.5m, we can go for the following players:

    Boyce
    Stearman
    Hibbert
    Martin Kelly
    Bradley Orr
    Clyne
    Rod Fanni
    Albin Ebondo
    Bernard Mendy
    Aaron Hughes
    Pablo Mills

    These are all better than Simpson and will be available for a cheap fee, however, we don’t need a right-back so we’ll more than likely sign Cissokho.

    I think we are watching Marvin Martin.

  • 90 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    So Debuchy would be decent value and probably with a much lower wage than Richards (who I was just using as a comparison, though I do rate him as a player).
    Your point that we’ve been lucky so far with release clauses is right. Debuchy is a full international and so £7.5m would actually be quite reasonable.

  • 91 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    @ketsbaia9

    I don’t think they are all better.

    Clyne and martin kelly have the potential but could not say for definite they are better.

    Most of the others are not any better…they wont improve the team and a lot of them are too old to be worth while signing.

  • 92 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    @mfh

    I think if you look at the spanish league….where a release clause is required in a contract….most players have them starting at 20million.

    They have to be in there but they are usually well above actual value so clubs can sell on there terms.

  • 93 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    Martin + Anita would be a huge strengthening of our midfield options but its the back four which needs most investment….If Simmo leaves then we need a substantially better player plus other defensive cover

  • 94 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    I think we need a CB (saylor is injury prone and I dont think Williamson should be playing too many games)

    We need a full back….left or right as santon can play either side (i prefer him lb)

    And I think we need a centre mid and a winger/striker (or a winger and a striker)

    They all need to be ready for first team football too….with losing guthrie and loven we are short of cover.

  • 95 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:40 PM

    Apologies I missed a bit out of my sentence! Where I wrote “Obviously not for a football team, but for other things”. I didn’t mean supporting a national team!

    And i only wrote that as JFA asked what’s wrong with it!

    rich_toonfan and Jail for Ashley I agree with both of your replies. What annoys me most is when people claim they support Spain or Germany – glory hunting is low anyway but for national teams? That’s just pathetic.

    Ahhhh sorry

  • 96 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:42 PM

    @gonufc

    I support England and totally agree…you support your own national side….its your country…you can follow other teams but your number one side you follow should be your own country.

    But I do enjoy to watch the Germans…not so much the spanish as I think they ave a slow build up which isn’t too exciting.

    I might want to see certain teams/players do well but I will cheer on England if we play them.

  • 97 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    Ketsbaia
    Does that stat finder you have work out their personalities and whether or not they might be able to adapt to our style of play,get along with their team mates and work out if they would be able to settle in the North East.

  • 98 WWYCD // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    JfA
    Haha u seem in good form this evening bad day my friend?

  • 99 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:45 PM

    We won’t get Martin! He’s going to Lille as Hazard’s replacement.

  • 100 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    @jfa

    Agreed. Stats can be very useful….but only if you use them all.

    There is no good at looking at only tackles, blocks, clearances and pass accuracy.

    If you use stats you need to look at every details that effects the game…not just a few stats…there are 10′s or 100′s which effect the ability of the player.

  • 101 shirtonapole tinooo // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    i really wanted to just be neutral this tournament as i dislike england atm…. not against england just didnt want to support them.
    my dislike started when capello never came to sjp, just to explain
    after watching the match today, i realised that i cant be neutral as much as i want to, i have to support my country no matter how much i hate the team

  • 102 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    rich

    Aye, I’ll agree with your wishlist
    FB + CB + AM + DM + Forward(s)

    But….this adds up to five/six quality incoming players and we’re probably only going to bring on one or two youngsters so will need at least four good players. Will the Fat Controller stump up with the £20-25m needed ?
    If we got CL we’d get that back in the first season. Maybe he knows he’s got to speculate to accumulate.

  • 103 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    And Martin’s wage demands are 60k
    Anyone know what Debuchy’s wages are/would be if he joined?

  • 104 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    ‘Nos dda boys bach’

    Pity Wales never made the Euros…..

  • 105 GeordieToon89 // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    Right so why do we need to wait until france are out of the comp? normally you can just send a doctor over to the camp and conduct a medical there with the supervision of the french medical team.. happens all the time

  • 106 shirtonapole tinooo // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    insert “.” at certain points…. t´t ;)

  • 107 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    @mfh

    I know we wont fill all positions with first teamers but we sign say a good CB and full back.

    the CM, striker and winger role can be filled by younger players like sammy, abeid, vuckic and amilfatano then possibly one or two more youngsters added to the squad.

  • 108 transfer sage 2 // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    debuchy failed his medical cant tell you my source but it aint transfer sage. ;)

  • 109 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    WW…
    Going back to Kaz for a month on Wednesday so getting me hapenies worth before I give up the blog for awhile :-(

  • 110 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    Yer I agree, there’s loads of teams that I really enjoy watching but I could never say I actually support them.

  • 111 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    I just think we all need to have sensible expectations next year.

    With liverpool and chelsea having better managers (possibly) and money available to invest in the squad we could end up behind them….it wouldn’t be a disaster.

    We need to be best of the rest though…be ahead of the likes of everton, sunderland, fulham, etc.

    Also if we haven’t got a large transfer budget I would like to see us use the loan market a bit better than we have done.

  • 112 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    JFA, you poor thing.
    This blog will be covered in Borat references when you come back!

  • 113 hotdog // Jun 11, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    Evening All – It’s being reported on Sky Sports News that Chris Brunt from West Brom is having a medical tonight.

  • 114 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:00 PM

    7.5m on Debuchy leaves 12.5m in the kitty.
    How would we buy a decent CB, DM, AM, ST with that much- Anita is 7m so 5.5m on a CB, AM, ST: never gonna happen. I assume they’ll be young and unsung, but I really hope that we do get a proven CB and the AM and ST/LW can be young and cheap

  • 115 rich_toonfan // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:01 PM

    @ben arfa

    I think we need to sign a CB and FB as a priority……they are the main positions we need to fill.

  • 116 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    @Hotdog,
    For the Toon?
    All I see are interviews from the England game.
    Stupid question I know BUT where does he play?

  • 117 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    DM too

  • 118 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    Lukaku on loan anyone?

  • 119 WWYCD // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    JfA
    Ah thats sh*te mate will u be able to enjoy the Euros out there?
    Still atleast u will miss most of silly season so not that bad of a thing ;)

  • 120 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:06 PM

    Hopefully we can exploit the large squads of Man City and Chelsea and take a couple of player on loan?

  • 121 Nick 69 // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:09 PM

    Ben Arfa your forgetting that if we did purchase Debuchy for £7.5mill it would be because Simpson is away, for which we would get at least about £3mill I would think so in effect he would only cost us about £4.5mill

  • 122 hotdog // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    Ben Arfa – Sorry mate couldnt resist posting my own transfer shite story. Just want to get the point over that will people stop posting utter garbage on here about signings until there is a shred of evidence. I know the toon aint playing at the mo but England were and so too was Cabaye and still people post transfer shitty gossip. Rant Over

  • 123 Jail for Ashley // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    WW…
    It’s four hours ahead over there so I’ll get the games with Russian commentary but will only stay up for the England games I,ll be reading the blog but the internet connection is too slow to post.

  • 124 GeordieToon89 // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    The only positions which we are DESPERATE for really is: CB-CM-ST

    The full back position isnt desperate as we have players who can play there if needed
    RB – R.Taylor/Simpson/Tavernier/Santon/Jonas
    LB – Santon/R.Taylor/Jonas/Fergie

    Ideally we will sign a new left or right back.. a centre half and then obviously were desperate for a striker preferably a non african one as were oogered when the ACON is on, would like to think we’ll have more than £20million to spend aswell a dont actually think we have budgets a think its just if a good deal comes up we’ll do it i.e Cisse instead of Maiga(who might be off to Wigan!!)

    IN:
    Debuchy – £7.5million(If true)
    Douglas – £4million
    Brahimi – £2.5million
    Elia – £5million
    De Jong – £8million

    Dont think those will happen but we would have one hell of a team if it could happen

  • 125 GeordieToon89 // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:14 PM

    Ben Arfa – I’d take Lukaku on loan like, he’s apparently available for a loan this season aswell and they want him to get prem experience.. Stoke are favourites obviously

  • 126 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    Martin, Anita, Cissokho, Vertonghen and Giroud as our main signings would see us challenge for the title next season. And yes, I’d take Lukuku on loan and loan out Ranger and Xisco.

    People have a lot of mixed opinions regarding Simpson. Let’s just leave it now and accept that he won’t be with us next season.

    I am very happy with the players that we have and if we could add some quality to the squad, we would become a real force next season.

  • 127 WWYCD // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:19 PM

    JfA
    Not a bad plan mate though I reckon u wont have many late nights however I could be wrong judging by todays performance from the lads.

    Worst of it that I find it hard to read some of the tripe on here without commenting haha

    Oh and to those mentioning loan players I highly doubt NUFC will consider taking on a loan player without a agreed fee at the end which Chelsea/City wont offer…weeing in the wind imo

  • 128 GeordieToon89 // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    Ketsbaia9 – Vertonghen is going to Spurs and Giroud has all but signed for Arsenal

  • 129 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:24 PM

    @GT89,
    Elia and Brahimi? Pick one and spend the rest on a DM

  • 130 GeordieToon89 // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:24 PM

    WWYCD – Thats normally because we need to pay a loan fee at the start but if we could do a deal where we dont pay a loan fee and just take the player on loan for a season with maybe a first option should he ever be sold clause providing he does well of course a think we would do that

  • 131 Dannyo // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:27 PM

    Debuchy wont happen imo, he’ll go to a bigger club.
    And whats with us needing an CB, DM, AM and ST?
    Has Pardew not said 2-3 players?
    And we certainly don’t need an AM, we’ve got 3, maybe 4 even.
    We need a CB, replacement FB, and an RW/Striker

  • 132 WWYCD // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:29 PM

    GT89
    U reckon Ashley will pay big wages for a year for a player owned by another team?

  • 133 hotdog // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    Dannyo – Im impressed with what i have seen from Debuchy but why do fans think he is signing. Cabaye said he was a mate and he would love him to come and from that people think he is coming!!

  • 134 GeordieToon89 // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:40 PM

    Would much rather have Leroy Fer as a DM signing than Anita

  • 135 GeordieToon89 // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:42 PM

    WWYCD – Well no but maybe we can do a deal where Chelsea pay his wages seens though were doing them a favour haha

  • 136 Sazzer // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    Only Anita is realistic of your targets Ketsbaia. While still on Giroud why didn’t Blanc bring him in today? France clearly lacked threat in the box. Debuchy must felt bit frustrated getting to 5-10 crosses opportunities without no one to cross to. France played just like Spain and Belgium with no real striker.

    Geordie89
    I don’t agree that fullback isn’t desperate for us. Not because we don’t have players able to cover the position defensively but because we don’t have any offensive fullbacks. Last season we had to of the best box playing strikers without providing enough crosses. That’s the reason we are after Debuchy and Rosales etc.

  • 137 WWYCD // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:49 PM

    GT89
    Haha ok I conceed that if tubs could get a player to play for us whilst being paid by a 3rd party he’d jump at the chance haha

  • 138 GeordieToon89 // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    Tbf wingers are supposed to be the main provider of crosses not full backs so I suggest we question our wingers first before questioning the defenders ability to cross… a do agree we need a better going forward full back but we aint desperate for one not in the slightest.. Tavernier is class going forward and good defender but just inexperienced in the premier league

  • 139 GeordieToon89 // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:51 PM

    WWYCD – Sorted ha now just getting Chelsea to agree to giving us a player for free and paying his wages for a year while he does well for us and we send him back having an option of first refusal on signing him if he’s available.. Bargain if your Roman Abramovich haha

  • 140 WWYCD // Jun 11, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    GT89
    Haha seems like a great deal for all those involved ;)

    Oh and before I am off new twitter rumour is the Anita deal is a cover up for another player we have bid on…..and with that am off c ya lads

  • 141 GeordieToon89 // Jun 12, 2012 at 12:06 AM

    PSG and Man Utd are fighting it out to sign Luka Modric a think he’ll end up at Man Utd

  • 142 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 12, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    Giroud’s nowhere near signed for Arsenal. It’s a load of rubbish. We’re after him. Apparently our £4m bid for Anita needs to be doubled.

  • 143 GeordieToon89 // Jun 12, 2012 at 12:30 AM

    Katsbaia9 – For a start we bid just over £7million for him.. And secondly Montpelliers manager has said today in a live interview with RMC radio that he expecta Giroud to be an Arsenal player soon

  • 144 Sazzer // Jun 12, 2012 at 1:33 AM

    Georgie89
    For me having two-way fullbacks is essential unless you want to only play defensively. In that regard we only have Santon, and perhaps unproven Tavernier. If you can’t find one two-way defender you need one offensive and one defensive so you can switch depending on game. Providing supports gives our wingers more space and make able to do more crosses as well. For me it’s a synergistic effect. Also with good balls in to the box I’m sure Shola can cover the weeks that Cisse is gone. And Ba and Best if the stay.

  • 145 geordiejamie89 // Jun 12, 2012 at 4:15 AM

    Hopefully we’ll sign Debuchy he looked good against England, but the better he plays, the more likely a London club will come in for him. Perhaps having his old pal Yohan Cabaye will sway him to stick with coming to Newcastle.
    Another very valid point, don’t get me wrong, I didn’t want France to win, but wtf was Malouda doing? He hardly touched the ball. Hatem should have had his place. He’d have at least created a few extra chances.

  • 146 jesperfuglsang // Jun 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM

    I think in all honesty if we were going to sign Debuchy we would have done so already. So i don’t think it is going to happen.

    I really can’t see us buying any Euro 2012 players; MA simply won’t pay up.

  • 147 joe // Jun 12, 2012 at 7:44 AM

    @Geordietoon89

    Why do wingers have to be the main source of crosses? It really depends on how the manager wants to play. Why can’t strikers be the main source of link up play and wingers be the main source of goals, while fullbacks the main source of crosses? Ronaldo and Messi certainly aren’t the main source of crosses for both their teams, and they’re both wingers.

  • 148 Szarka // Jun 12, 2012 at 7:48 AM

    England wasnt good enough, the goal was Lloris’s mistake, waiting at the line .
    Young wasnt bad, Milner couldnt finish in the empty net :/
    At France Cabaye had a good game just lika Nasri, but Benzema wasnt good really. I would have bring in Giroud, and gave more chance for Ben Arfa. At England i would have tried Walcott vs Milner at 60min. good pace at the end, may have become a winner sub.

  • 149 davybtoon // Jun 12, 2012 at 7:54 AM

    Forget this 2-3 players talk were 3 down from last season already we need at least 7 new signings

  • 150 deeeeeeano // Jun 12, 2012 at 8:10 AM

    JFA- are you going to d island doing inspections? I wrapped in before heading there, was onshore at kuryk in march/April a load of my Mates are on there but I escaped before heading, it’s meant ti be horrific and the Italian gaffers are horrible horrible barstewards

  • 151 mindshaft // Jun 12, 2012 at 8:20 AM

    Decent display ???? England are basically stoke without the long throw, quite possibly the worst footballing team in the euros – take your rose tinted glasses off

  • 152 Dannyo // Jun 12, 2012 at 8:27 AM

    @davy
    7 new signings, not gonna happen mate, not this summer.
    2-3 bluechips, then reserves+players on the fringes.

  • 153 @timuJ // Jun 12, 2012 at 8:30 AM

    I agree mindshaft. I couldn’t believe all the praise England were getting yesterday. A sound defensive display against a France side that weren’t at their best.

    This type of negative football is fine if you end up winning the tournament but with potentially only 3 games to play, the team should make the most of it and try and score more than one goal. One shot on target, one goal. It’s pitiful at international level.

  • 154 Jail for Ashley // Jun 12, 2012 at 8:36 AM

    Deanooo,
    That very same place with the same orrible Italian gaffers and wretches from the boro ;-)

  • 155 deeeeeeano // Jun 12, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Davie Adams is heading over there this week too

  • 156 Jail for Ashley // Jun 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    That Nikki Given would be out there as.well if it wasn’t for his nefarious past.:-)

  • 157 deeeeeeano // Jun 12, 2012 at 5:17 PM

    Haha nice Sunday dinner at the rattler eh!

  • 158 Jail for Ashley // Jun 12, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    Aye it was canny had a few more after that,me taxi’s booked for four o clock the morra morning,the red eye to Amsterdams too good for Ashley.

  • 159 deeeeeeano // Jun 13, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    Enjoy the tengis kidda




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