Alan Pardew has talked today to BBC Newcastle, and he says he hopes that Demba Ba will stay on Tyneside this summer.
Demba Ba and his secret of success – Strawberry Syrup!
But every day there seems to be another story about Ba, and it’s probably due to the many agents who are said to represent him, and of course agents will go far to get some publicity, in the hope it will help them close a deal for the well-liked Newcastle striker.
It all started a week or so ago, with a report that Tottenham were coming in for him, and then over the last few days he’s been linked with Turkish Champions Galatasaray, but there’s no deal there, according to the latest news from the Turkish club.
Pardew told BBC Newcastle that other clubs have been interested in the striker, ever since he arrived at Newcastle last summer:
“Ever since he signed with us we’ve had it, I don’t think it’s going to go away.” “We want him to stay, the fans do too, and we hope that will be the case.”
The Senegal striker arrived on a free transfer from West Ham, almost exactly a year ago, and he hit 16 goals last season, before his goal-scoring seemed to dry up, once his Senegal team-mate Papiss Cisse arrived at Newcastle, and Cisse hit an amazing 13 goals in 14 games.
And Newcastle have a tough start to the season, with 5 games in the first 15 days of the season, and two Europa League qualifying games are now in the mix for the second half of August.
Alan talked about the tough start Newcastle will have to make to the season:
“It’s significantly tougher, we had a softer start than most last season.” ”This year we’re in at the deep end, pre-season it will be important we’re up to speed for the first game.”
“It shows the demands of the Premier League, with two tough games. But on the back of last year we’re hoping to get positive results in those two games.”
The International break come in the first two weeks of September, and it will be interesting at that time, to see how well Newcastle have done in their first five games of the season.
We have to hope at a minimum that we have qualified for the Europa League group stages, which will see Newcastle in a group of four, and there will be six games to play in Europe, before the end of the year.
Comments welcome.
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1 papiss_on_your_parade // Jun 18, 2012 at 1:40 PM
Ba was vital to us in the first half of the season, and has done okay out on the left wing the second half of the season.
However, I believe we would be better to have him replace cisse as a sub in an out and out striking position. If he stays, he should really be prepared to sit on the bench until the last half hour of the 90 minutes, in my opinion.
If I had to let a class player go, it would be ba, as he seems to be the least loyal, if nothing else.
2 G // Jun 18, 2012 at 1:44 PM
A no-brainer really. In the prem you need more that one top-notch striker. Whilst Cisse has hogged the limelight since the turn of the year, Ba didn’t exactly disgrace himself prior to that. Besides, formations adapt through the season, and I expect us to play with 2 out and out CF’s sooner rather than later. Put this another way, who would you rather have up front with Cisse, Ba or Shola? (And I’m not slagging Shola here, but Ba is the better player).
3 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 1:45 PM
Demba hasn’t actually done anything yet, I can only assume some of his myriad lackeys are doing their best to advertise him and be first to get an agents fee
4 jesperfuglsang // Jun 18, 2012 at 1:48 PM
G
I am no big fan of a conservative outdated 4-4-2. Just take a look at the Euros or any of the 4 major leagues.
If you want to go places 4-4-2 as we know it is dead.
I am hoping we will stick to 4-3-3; there are mana variations of this tactic and it could be very interesting
But you are right it is a long season and many matches so we are going to need both Ba and Papisto this season
5 G // Jun 18, 2012 at 1:53 PM
@post 4 – I agree about the old-fashioned 4-4-2 formation, but then remember when Jose M took over at Chelski people had been saying that, until he started playing 4-4-2 albeit in the 4-4-2 diamond formation (or as I think of it 4-1-2-1-2). I would hate to see us revert to hoof-ball, as the 70′s were dull enough for me once before.
6 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jun 18, 2012 at 1:56 PM
Whose idea was this stupid release clause in his contract!
I think most people want him to stay and it will be sorted either way by the end of July anyway! This is when his release clause runs out apparantly!
7 Beardo // Jun 18, 2012 at 2:03 PM
Ba simply won’t be content with playing second fiddle to Cisse and starting only in the ‘minor’ games, so I can’t see how him remaining here is tenable, unless we play the dated 4-4-2, which when we tried it with those 2, they were just treading on each others toes and were just not tuned in to one another at all.
Ba on the LW of a 3 is just a fat NO, he was abysmal out there.
Think he’ll be gone by the time Spurs visit.
8 jayphoto // Jun 18, 2012 at 2:06 PM
think Ba will go aswell which is a shame, really rate him as a player! we’re looking at a 50 game season, with our best 2 players going to Africa for 6 weeks….. we definately need another striker bringing in whether Ba stays or goes!
9 No Plain Saylor // Jun 18, 2012 at 2:28 PM
After such a brilliant season, if ever there was a time to push on and be bold with some transfer bids, but where are we? We haven’t even got preseason sorted! And the transfer that seems most likely is a player leaving, alobg with the players already gone and forster and best atill to go.. our small squad is somewhat smaller again, and the fixture list being released scared me stiff, we’ve a strong starting 11, but 5 games in 15 days? We DO NOT have the squad for that!! And I’m not a moany fan but I want players comin across that line over the next week.
10 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2012 at 2:37 PM
No plain Saylor
Whilst I understand your fears I must say to you that the transfer window doesn’t open (players cannot move to clubs) until July 1st.
For all we know 5 players may ave signed already!!
I’m deserving judgement until after the 1st week of July. If nobody has signed by then I’m getting my pitchfork!
11 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2012 at 2:46 PM
Affelay’s stock wil have gone down after a terrible Euro 2012.
I’d take him in a heartbeat!!
12 No Plain Saylor // Jun 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM
Haha alright I’ll hold back with the pitchfork for now. Yeah I think afelley’d be a great deal. £5m is a bargin for him
13 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 2:55 PM
God I hope we don’t need to dust off the pitchforks again….dark days they were.
14 arctoa // Jun 18, 2012 at 2:59 PM
I agree with Beattie25, wait until July is a week old before drawing too many conclusions. The fact that the window isn’t properly open along with a lot of players being away at Euro 2012 means that deals are difficult to close right now.
As for Demba Ba, nufc.com had a well thought out and balanced article a few weeks ago. It’s a shame they don’t archive their stuff.
15 No Plain Saylor // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Beattie what do u think of lucuano narsignh? He got like 24 assists and8 goals last season, we gave scouted him, at 21 and versatile he fits the bill. Plus I think fulham plan to get gim for like 4/5 million so he’s pretty cheap considering his potential
16 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Realistically if we are all about resale value then we should IMO look no further than Cissokho, Kjaer, Elm and Affellay.
Cissokho is younger than Debuchy and may cost a little less bit has massive potential and great ability at current and could come for £6 million or less.
Kjaer had a torrid time and Wolfsburg and Roma but his quality is there for all to see. Had a good Euros and with Wolfsburg ready to cut their losses a bid of 6 million may be enough.
Elm had an awful Euros but is a fantastic player. Due to his poor performances his stock may have fell and possible now 6 million again may be enough.
Affellay is a super player who has been hampered with injury and with too much competition at Barca. Could be a steal at 5 million.
All together these 4 would cost in the region of 20-25 million. Which I know is near impossible for our club to spend bit as Carr said there is money of the right players become available.
These 4 may double or triple in value over the next 2 years so why not??
17 No Plain Saylor // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:01 PM
Jesus lads sorry about the spelling, stupid phone!
18 Derek Llambias // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Hello minions, how’s things going?
19 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:04 PM
I haven’t seen Narsingh to be honest but he’s a bit special apparently!
20 Munster Mag // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:06 PM
I dont have any issue with 4-4-2 provided the right players are playing in the right places, and it gives us a great option to get two brilliant players terrorising teams. Mourinho loved it and nobody complained. 4-4-2 can become 4-5-1 very easily, but to me, its all about players and motivation, rather than 4-4-2 or whatever.
21 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Beattie….Those 4 certainly look like players that could offer something for the team now and definitely fit the bill with regards to being young and offering an increased sale value down the line. Are you sure you’re not Graham Carr coming on here to mingle with the fans?
22 JAMSHA // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Tough games , hope we get max 10 pts in our 1st 5 league fixtures.
23 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:09 PM
On formations and tactics……Each formation and tactic has merit depending on the players available and the opposition. I know that’s a pretty obvious statement, but it seems to escape quite a few people.
4-4-2 has it’s time and place.
24 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:10 PM
If I was Graham Carr we’d have quite possibly the worst team ever.
Plus the real Carr would never mingle with mere mortals like us.
25 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Jamsha…You only want us to get a maximum of 10 points out of 15?
Do you mean you want a minimum of 10 points or you think we’ll get a maximum of 10?
26 G // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM
@ Ibiza, post 22
’4-4-2 has it’s time and place.’
That time and place was the 70′s and 80′s, when short tight shorts were played in! Seriously though, hit the nail on the head there mate. Even though I hate to see it, you sometimes need to revert to the long-ball game.
27 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Beattie….Speak for yourself mate….”mere mortal”…chortle.
28 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM
That Affelay looks an extremely poor player. Hope we stay clear of him. Marvin Martin and Cissokho have to be signed though.
29 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:13 PM
G….In a time where shorts were short….
It’s not attractive (most of the time) and the game has evolved somewhat since those glory days (
), but sometimes needs must and all that garbage
30 No Plain Saylor // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:15 PM
four very good targets, especially afelley and kjaer. I mean even if we couldn’t afford the four of them, which shouldnt be a priblem but even the compromise would be good, tranquillo barnetta or diame or manuel fernandes? All free agents that would be good additions to our midfield trio, id probably still prefer debuchy to cissikho but id be delighted either way!
31 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:15 PM
K Hole…..Is this based on the Euros or have you watched him consistently?
32 DraperNUFC10 // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:15 PM
follow me on twitter @daniel_draper95, i’ll follow back
HWTL
33 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:15 PM
The best formation is an evolving formation. That’s why we are buying versatile players.
During 90 minutes you need to continuously change the formation to counter threats and preset them to the opposition. A 4-4-2 needs to change to a 4-3-3 or a 4-5-1 at any given time. Maybe your chasing a game, protecting a lead or striken by an injury.
That’s our future and what we are building!
34 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Beattie….So true. If something isn’t working, we need to be able to change the game and keep the opposition guessing.
35 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:18 PM
That was my point Ketsbia
Affellay did look a poor player but he is far from it!
36 No Plain Saylor // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Yeah afelley had a poor euros but he is top class, he’s just baxk from injury and its not like he was the only one to underperform! The dutch were brutal, he’s quality and if we were to get him he’d change your mind!
37 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM
See QPR and West Ham are busy in the transfer market….anyone impressed with any of their buys to date?
38 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM
Draper…So if you follow me and I follow you, will we be going round in circles?
39 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Good job we picked up a decent run of fixtures when the acon is on and we will be playing in the europa league..defo need to fill the squad up big time with half decent players
40 toonincheek // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Maybe we should be looking at the guys who have a bad Euro.
For anyone we buy, Carr will have already done his stuff.
We will have already made up our minds as to the value of players we are scouting.
We won’t pay more for someone just because they have a good Euro . . .
and
We won’t be offering less just because someone has a bad Euro (well, maybe a little).
So, we should be thinking of players we have been scouting and who have a bad Euro as the most likely signings.
41 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:29 PM
One player I want and we need at the club is debuchy. Tbh simpson would make a cracking back up for europa league games
42 JAMSHA // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:32 PM
Ibizatoon – Back by popular demand
an if we do get that. Then our season gona be superb. CL nxt season then 
. . Everything is possible for newcastle
Well i think we will get max 10pts out of 15
43 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Dont wanna be the one to dull the mood.
But i can’t see us getting CL next year when were gona be playing europa league carling cup fa cup premier league an not to mention are 3 best players are gona be away for god know how long
44 arctoa // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:35 PM
The 4-4-2 is a living fossil of a formation; while all the more sophisticated ones eventually get nullified with sophisticated counter-tactics, the default teams fall back to is 4-4-2. It’s useful to have players who can fit into a number of systems, as there’s no way you can get through an entire season playing the same formation.
Unless you’re Barca. Which we’re clearly not.
I’m not sold on Affellay, but I suppose you can’t read too much into anyone’s performance for the Netherlands as they did their usual imploding act. I’m not sold on Kjaer either, he looks like a defender who has a bit of a hideous error in him from time to time, despite his other qualities. How old is he?
45 arctoa // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:36 PM
There’s not a chance in hell of us getting a Champions League spot next season. The best we can aim for is Europa League qualification again to maintain the standard and push on from there, but even that might be difficult if we make decent progress in the cup competitions that we’re in.
46 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:36 PM
I would take top 6-7 with a good europa league cup run maby even get some silver wear…we need atleaste 6-7 players brought in though and not african
47 Charlietoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:41 PM
Newexpatmagie – It was his agents you retard. Now that you have the answer maybe you can get over it and stop bringing it up as though someone at the club let you down personally by allowing it.
48 tooninspain // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Newexpat and Jayphoto…..are you one and the same person?
49 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Good to see fans staying level headed on our chances for next season. I gotta say it looks a tough opening but lets stay right behind the lads and they might just suprise us as they did last year
Ed – You need to be carefull who you pick as your advert sponsors – I mean ” Meet a local Slag tonight” might be tempting for Beattie & Ibizatoon
but does nowt for site image me thinks!!
50 davybtoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:43 PM
Am telling you Henri bedimo shud b our next signing 5mil regarded as best lb in France only jus turned 28, debuchy 27 next month regarded best rb in France we won’t get him bcoz of the euros so get the lb n move santon across
51 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:45 PM
Debuchy- Is a must
luk de jong- maby
second string team so far europa league
________elliot________
simo___wilo__remi__ferguson
obertan___alfamitano_gosling__marveaux
___________shola__sammy
subs
cisse
ba
ben arfa
collo
krul
jonas
52 arctoa // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:46 PM
Charlietoon: Duuude. Like, chill out, yo.
hotdog: Haha, this is why I use advertisement blockers!
53 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:47 PM
I think CL qualification is a tall order for next season. We didn’t make it last season (albeit only missing out by a small margin) and this upcoming is going to be even harder imo.
Man City will finish higher than us
Man United will finish higher than us
Chelsea had a weird campaign, but are buying some cracking players and under Di Matteo looked a much improved team.
Arsenal started slowly, but always are up there and seem to be making noises in the transfer market this year.
IMO, that will be next seasons top 4 (have not put any thought in to order mind).
Spurs I think may struggle depending on who they appoint as manager and how many players flee.
Liverpool will at some point raise their game. Not sure if it’s this season or next, but I would expect them to be pushing for EL.
The scum – Don’t expect anything from them, but thought i’d mention them so we could all have a good laugh at their expense.
So, on the count of three…one…two…three….ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha he he he ha ha ha
54 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:48 PM
@hotdog the ads come from your cookies i think haha get of those dirty sites hahaha
55 arctoa // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:48 PM
kevymartins: Pretty sure Simpson’s not going to be at the club come the start of next season. Last I knew NUFC were listening to offers for him and after the season he had I can see there being no dearth of suitors.
56 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:48 PM
Hotdog…What are you trying to say good sir?
57 arctoa // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:50 PM
Thems were fightin’ words!
58 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:52 PM
arctoa…which words would that be?
Fight Fight Slag Fight! Whoops, how did that sneak in there
59 arctoa // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:53 PM
Ibizatoon: On a related note, I agree with your top four prediction. We’ll be squabbling with Liverpool and Spurs (and maybe Everton?) for the Europa League places and given our commitments in cup competitions I think it’s fairly likely it’s a fight we’ll lose. We’ll no doubt bring in players to bolster the squad but we’d need 8-10 in to have the required squad depth to challenge on all fronts and that’s just not going to happen this coming season.
60 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:54 PM
@arctoa true he probaly will more likly go just a shame as the only down side to simpson was getting foward an crosses into the box ..He was a rock aon the denfensive side though
61 arctoa // Jun 18, 2012 at 3:56 PM
He tends to stand off flying wingers too regularly too, but he’s a solid player and has been outstanding considering the peanuts we paid for him. Personally I’d keep him for squad rotation but it’s not happening, unfortunately. He values himself higher than the club does so that’s a situation that’s entirely untenable.
62 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:09 PM
Can some1 please tell me if this is working?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-unUfAGmxQA&feature=plcp
63 Baro // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:12 PM
kevymartins
not workin’ … copyright
64 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:14 PM
f eckers i had everything from the 2011/2012 season in that to
65 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:15 PM
Just as well that new cookie law came in phew
66 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:17 PM
giroud has signed for arsenal….reported on sky sports news
67 Baro // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:17 PM
Ok now, realistically we really need to bolster our squad this year. Ba and Cisse will be out to ACON for a significant time, so I’d bring another striker in to challenge those 2 for their spots, and not lay them back. We need a really fast winger who loves to create space, and chances. Past year we did not have that. At CM Kevin Davies would be the best pick, for backup. Now if it weren’t for Steven Taylor getting injured past season, god knows where we would of ended up… At left back we are pretty good with santon and fergie, dummet too. We will need a center back to challenge Willo, Steven Taylor, and Colo for their spot, and a younger one would be good for injuries. At right back hopefully we get Debuchy in …
68 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Hey Rich_toonfan
Some of us are working not sitting with our feet up and a cuppa watching Skysports News
69 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:23 PM
Arctoa…Everton definitely deserve to be considered up there….that is unless Moyes get’s lured elsewhere.
For me, I think PL top 7 has to be the absolute number 1 priority and securing some form of European football for the following season. I suppose there is some hope in trying to win either the “Capital 1″ or FA Cup and qualifying that way, then league position isn’t of too much importance….bit of a risk though.
70 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:25 PM
Baro – I dont like to discuss trnasfers on here as it gets a bit mind numbing! What i will say is that we need to concentrate on our defense. We have plenty of attacking options inc the youngsters. However when you look at the Dutch who had plenty of attacking quality, old floppy chops was right when he said the back four were suspect. Its still the area that concerns me.
71 toonking // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:26 PM
this is my first post since the final week of the season although i still check the blog most days for any news.
after i just read the post about pardew as a future england manager it gave me the thought of who i think could be a good england manager or atleast he picks the squad- GRAYHAM CARR,
because almost every time england have just played you get load complaining about how bad certain players have done e.g. parker and also when the squad is first chosen there are complaints about lack of youth development or key players missing out.
so with grayham carr as squad builder we could be finally able to get the right squads for big tournements just as he has done for us already
72 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:26 PM
right im off to do what rich_toonfan is doing – Ibiza you clicked that advert yet mate haha
73 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:27 PM
@hotdog
i’m only off today to get my face x rayed haha
i haven’t had a great day
74 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:29 PM
Hotdog….:) The Ibiza directory isn’t that great. Back to trawling the beach for slags for me. Enjoy your afternoon
75 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:31 PM
Rich….Have your face x rayed? What the hell you been up to mate? I’m going to resist the how ugly are you type comments.
76 santonthenewmaldini // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:32 PM
imagine we beat spurs and chelsea in the league and qualified for the europa at the start of the season?!?we would be BUZZING!
also i think this season we will be a lot better as players like Santon and Cabaye will have had a full years experience in the premiership i also have faith that the youngsters will come good this season as Pardew will have to give them a good run of games and i think Ferguson and Vuckic will deliver as long as they stay clear of injuries!
I want to keep Ba as well because if him and Cisse click this season because if we can work a system that gets them lots of chances we can start spanking teams… especially the Mackems in October!!
77 Derek Llambias // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:34 PM
Ban me from this site please, I have an unhealthy obsession.
78 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:38 PM
a cricket ball to the face….2nd x rays after the ones thursday…..landed right on my cheek bone/nose from about 100 metres up…
…mix up with a team mate going for a catch and it landed on me…didn’t get a hand to it to cushion the blow or anything.
79 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:40 PM
toonking…..Not a bad idea mate. Wasn’t his record as a manager pretty poor? But I suppose in a recruitment role he’d be class….not until he’s finished at Newcastle though…which is never!
80 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:43 PM
Derek….we all have unhealthy obsessions with this site.
Rich..Sounds pretty nasty mate. Need to try a sport which isn’t so violent
Santon…For sure. The newish players will have settled some more and I too expect Pardew to start bringing the youth players along some more.
If we can start with 2 league wins are Europa qualification I’ll be one happy magpie
81 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:48 PM
I think Europa league qualification and then unbeaten after first 2 games I will be happy.
Does anybody know when the europa league draw is?
82 arctoa // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:51 PM
Someone should’ve told you that you’re not supposed to catch the ball with your face.
As for us winning one of the cups, I have but one response: AHAHAHA. I’ll consider it when it’s already happened.
83 arctoa // Jun 18, 2012 at 4:52 PM
rich_toonfan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_UEFA_Europa_League
84 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:00 PM
There needs to be some real news my mind is gettin numb
85 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:02 PM
Btw lads the away top is on maxxsoccer or soccertriads.com for £17
fake but apparently there the real deal they even have the puma tags on them
i cant pay £50 a top season after season when you could get 3 for 60
86 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:10 PM
anyone like the idea for a song next year.
woahhhhhh Alan Pardew, he used to be a cockney but he’s geordie now.
87 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:11 PM
And 2 people bought them an gave 5* rating
mine is on its way with toon army 9 on the back..can’t waite untill the home an 3rd tops are in
88 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:18 PM
arctoa….in response to your laughter at the idea of us winning a cup. That was my main point really. PL positioning has to be No.1 priority imo.
89 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:23 PM
@ibiza
I agree. the league has to be a priority…thats not to say I want the cups ignored, just rotate a couple players not a full team.
Even if we were the best teams in the league we might not win a cup…..one off game and you’re out…..where as with the league one bad game is not a disaster.
Focusing on a cup at the expense of the league is just a silly idea really.
90 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:26 PM
Rich. Did you get it on video £250 of pure comedy. Sorry kidda sounds a bit nasty. Chin up (if you can like)
91 DraperNUFC10 // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:27 PM
Follow me on twitter @Daniel_Draper95, I will follow back
HWTL
92 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:28 PM
@hotdog
turned out ok….just bruised and swollen…no breaks.
and if only, would have almost made it worth it haha.
93 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:41 PM
Whats the topic today? Park bench repainted? Dog lost in Eldon Square?
94 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:44 PM
Tsunki- sounds like you have had a busy day
95 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:47 PM
Draper…Do you ever comment or just advertise your twitter account?
96 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:47 PM
Tsunki…I saw a lovely cloud today too….it’s been hectic
97 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 5:59 PM
Is drapers only tenuous link to nufc his monicker? I dont get why we have to get into the twitting thing. Does it restore hair? If it does I am definitely not interested.
98 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:02 PM
Bad news for us today. Arsenal are about to sign Giroud. We’re going to have to find an alternative option up front. Why can’t we go for M’Villa? Seems like Arsenal are going for the title next season. Surprised Vertonghen’s still signing for Spurs though.
99 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:02 PM
Tsunki….It’s scientifically proven to make people appear more of a moron in 140 characters or less (more or less).
100 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:04 PM
Ketsbaia…..I know what you’re saying. I’m still pretty gutted we missed out on Hazard…was sure he was going to sign for us!
101 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:09 PM
Yeah, but Hazard was out of our price range. Giroud was available at £12m and would’ve been a great signing. I just hope we get some stars on board soon.
I’m starting to panic a bit now.
102 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:14 PM
Ever consider that we were never really meant to sign giroud or any of the other recognised top targets? Bear with me on this, if I knew for certain the big hitters were always going to poach my targets, then a strategy may be to assemble a list of credible `top`players currently in form, and genuinely pursue interest but with little hope or intention to actually go for them, even having pardew, carr etc go watch them etc, meanwhile do discreet negotiations for our real targets, young prospects yet to come to full potential, currently languishing and pot-bound in middling to reasonable teams on the continent. Silent but effective. Just a theory.
103 nico // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:18 PM
Totally off topic. Just looking at the Euro groups. I think Russia should have qualified for Q-F. Also I hear if Croatia and Spain draw 2-2 Italy are out, even if they win 10-0. This head to head system is stupid. It a league system, and all about how you do in 3 games.
104 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:19 PM
Ketsbaia….I was definitely being sarcastic. £12m? Our top transfer of the last little while was Cisse at £9m, do you really think we’ll be spending more than that on another striker? I personally do not, but would love to be proved wrong.
I think Tsunki is on to something @102. Even if they’re not going to those lengths, if the tabloids are linking us to certain players, it’s in the interest of the club not to dismiss the claims as it keeps everyone guessing.
Had you really heard of Santon, Cabaye, Marveaux or Cisse before we signed them, not counting stories on this blog etc?
The days of he’s an established player, let’s throw in a bid are pretty much over and I for one am happy. I love our new system and have faith in the management team to set us up for next season.
105 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:20 PM
no news is good news – it means everything is well underwraps.
The fixture list looks tough but not a bad start or end-game.
Everton and Spuds often start cold so good to get two of those fixtures out the way early. A repeat of the Chelski away result would get a few pundits sitting up as we’ll have actually played someone by then…
Man U over the Christmas break cud be a bit off for us mind.
106 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:22 PM
Date a local slag? Wow, quality clientele expected here then. Why would you need the internet to fix you up with a local slag anyway? Surely that`s way more effort than required?
107 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:24 PM
Tsunki…Says a lot about the current generation really. When I was a bit younger and wanted a local slag, I would go out and find one. Now it seems there’s no need to leave the house. I fear for future generations.
108 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:24 PM
Also…not sure “date” is the right word
109 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM
I just never knew they had a site. I was fine with justeat, but this….
110 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:28 PM
MFH…No, no news means no ambition…do keep up
Tsunki….”justdoit.co.uk”?
111 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:36 PM
Ibiza
Naw – if our intended signings were splattered all over the blogosphere or twittersphere it’d mean we have serious security problems and the chance of alerting other clubs. We can speculate all we like but I bet at least two or three of the incomers have barely been mentioned if at all. Carr, Pards and the FC are well more than one jump ahead of us. I hope they’ve learnt from their (lamearse’s?) cockups in Jan over that guy from Watford and the previous window….all we’re getting is disinformation and overblown crap from agents
112 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Ketsbaia will continue to panic until we sign cissokho and Marvin Martin.
113 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:40 PM
MFH…Agreed. In case it wasn’t apparent, I was being sarcastic
Cwarr…..Looks like a year of panic ahead for dear Ketsbaia then!
114 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:41 PM
What cockups in January?
115 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:41 PM
I suppose getting in a CB???
116 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:43 PM
Yeah, I was aware of all of our signings before we signed them, apart from Abeid and Amalfitano. I used to watch Cisse when he was at Metz. Marveaux was the one that caught my attention the most. If the lad stays fit, he’ll be our player of the season next year. I want to see these positions filled by the end of August:
Center Back X2
Left Back
Attacking Midfielder
Defensive Midfielder
Right Winger
Striker X2
I don’t care if we sign Barnetta and Diame on free’s.
Snapping up Marvin Martin is a must.
117 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:45 PM
Not cockup ti them. They didn’t sign a cb for a price above what they wanted to spend just to be backup. We still finished 5th with less money spent.
To ashley that’s not a cockup. Its plan c.
To us it was silly and naive. All depends on your point if view.
118 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:47 PM
@Ketsbaia fair play but do you see us spending for the players you like in those positions?
119 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:48 PM
The strategy of getting players that others weren’t following and who turn out to be really good, thanks to the beady insightful eye of Mr Carr, bears out, when you consider what a team of relative unknowns like ours did last season. We were an unknown quantity, and just when you thought we’d been sussed, we bounced back and began winning again. If we can get a couple more in key positions we can continue to baffle the opposition with our parade of secret weapons. Ve shall rule ze verld!
120 Munster Mag // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:48 PM
Ketsbaia, in your dreams mate….
121 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:49 PM
Ketsbaia….As a must, what is the outcome if it doesn’t happen? Eventual doom? Relegation? Perhaps the end of the world?
I can see wanting certain players, but come on, one player isn’t going to make or break our squad or it’s chances of success.
You mention 8 playing positions there…do you mean improved starters, depth, prospect?
Cwarr…In retrospect, I don’t see it as a cock up. Just good business. If they had caved and paid over the odds we would suddenly be perceived as “easy targets”, which we clearly aren’t anymore
122 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:51 PM
GC
Not getting in the CB we wanted and then bidding for the guy from Watford (name has disappeared) who probably is no better as a backup than what we have here already and who didn’t sign anyway.
123 TimKrulFan // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:51 PM
Yh wtf local slags what woman would sign up to that site lol
124 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:52 PM
Tsunki
flyin pork oot my window after reading your wishlist
125 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:53 PM
More like
cb x1
Rb x1 (also cb)
Dm x1
lm/rm x1
St x1
Loadsa young guns 3-5 reserve level 7-9 u-18 level
126 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:53 PM
Sorry Tsunki it was Kets9 list
127 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:53 PM
Ketsy – is that aware of all the possible ones that we were pursuing including all the other ones we never got, or aware as in expected all of them to be signed? If it’s the former, then wasn’t everyone? If it’s the latter, who’s the current crop, or aren’t you aware… Yet?
128 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:54 PM
The main thing is our signings all like being with the Toon and can tell their pals.
129 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:54 PM
TimKrulFan – I would guess……..
See posts above.
130 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:54 PM
Ibiaza good point would it have been good buisness to cough up the £2.5 mil watford wanted for marriapa?
Also hasnt martin signed for lille?? Thought he’d been nailed on as hazards replacement
131 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM
Mfh see my comment on perspective
132 davybtoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM
We are dragging are heals with transfers like taking bloody ages hurry up n sign players
133 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:57 PM
@tsunki Ketsbaia means he knew of the players and how good they were. I think….
134 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:57 PM
MFH – That’s the thing all right. It’s what makes a difference at the club at the moment, and without players of that mentality they would have to fit motorised revolving doors at SJP. Like the ones down the road at Benefit Land.
135 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:57 PM
Don’t use that local slags site, trust me. I went on a couple of dates with the women from there and was dissatisfied to say the least. None of them were prepared to clean my bath, dressed in a suit, whilst I covered myself in horse radish and shouted vulgar insults at them in Greek. Not what I expect from my local slags. Maybe it’s different for you guys but I found the whole website interface to be extremely difficult to navigate as well.
136 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:58 PM
We’re going to struggle if we don’t strengthen in those areas. Yeah, I feel that we need another creative player. I’d only sign M’Villa as a replacement for Tiote. We can get Diame on a free as back-up.
The 8 positions mentioned above are mainly players that we need for the squad. The position that need to be filled for the first team would be:
1 Centre-Back – Vertonghen
Mbiwa should be signed as a future replacement for Coloccini
1 Left-back – Cissokho?
1 AM – Marvin Martin to alternate with Cabaye
We need a striker in the mould of Ba and Cisse and another young and up and coming striker
I would expect Pardew to make a centre back and left back his first major signings (hopefully Vertonghen/Aldereweild and Cissokho/Debuchy).
137 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 6:58 PM
@Davy its under control
138 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:00 PM
@ ochy all sounded reasonable until the horse raddish thats a bit odd lad
139 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:00 PM
Cwarr – oh so option 1 with homework. Fair enough then, can’t say I followed any of them until the rumours started.
140 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:01 PM
@Ketsbaia i still think Rb > lb needed
141 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:01 PM
And ven ve rule ze verld, all shill bekame veek at ze nees! Viktory iz arz!
142 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:03 PM
@ochy id have preferred taramasalata(?) like
143 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:04 PM
TADS
Oh sorry, I forgot to mention that the suit was made from clear plastic with Alan Sugar’s face over the who-haws.
144 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Hey guys…quick question….why are we looking at RB’s when Santon is right footed and a full back.
I might leave now
145 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Cwarr
Alright…. Nutter
146 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM
ochytoon – was it classical or modern greek? I think I see where you had a problem. Not many modern slags well versed in ancient languages. Plus I don’t believe a genuine slag actually knows what a bath is, let alone what cleaning one is all about. Simplify things.
147 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Ochy…Fancy going on a date? You sound like you know a good time
148 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:07 PM
Tsunki
Hey! I don’t tell you how to run your fetishes do I?!
149 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:07 PM
@ibiza as a German i take offence. I would never upset anyone on here like that with a silly joke (albeit misinterpreted)
150 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:07 PM
Ibiza @ 144 nothing like the old chestnuts. And if you bring those old arguments up again you may just get booted in the old chestnuts.
151 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:08 PM
Ah i see master pardew is back on the bbc prob 2 scout iniesta
152 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:08 PM
Ochy do you like humous?
153 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:08 PM
Also it was ancient Greek.
Ibiza
Depends, how do you like being chopped up and buried in the woods behind my house?
154 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:11 PM
A solid Center half, Left Back /Right Back neede and a good up and coming center forward Luke de Jung or even his brother Siem which will provide cover through out the ACN. We still have some up and coming youngsters that need to be brought into the squad, Vukic, Sammy, Ferguson, Alfamitano, Abeid and even Street. These guys will always strenghten the squad and we still have Marv who is hopefully now injury free. This squad looks good as long as we dont lose any of our stars.
155 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:12 PM
Cwarr
Only to inhale it. Makes me trip balls.
156 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:12 PM
Cwarr…Although I’m pretty confident you’ve taken no real offense, first my sincerest apologies. Secondly…I’m pretty sure someone else started it above, but I can’t find it now….have I lost my mind??? Please tell me I didn’t make up reading someone else’s comment in which to base mine on….worrying times!
Tsunki…Threaten me with a good time
157 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:12 PM
@ennyoueffse alfamitano? That the one that’s replacing the brera?
Agree with your comment mostly though
158 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:13 PM
enefusee
That’ll be about it if we’re lucky – 3 first team starters and the upandcomers, ring on 2-3 players suring the season and that’s 6.
159 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:13 PM
Ochy….Well it would be a first for me (and from the sounds of it a last also), but hey, I’m game. You free Friday night? Do I get wined and dined first? What’s the dress code?
160 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:14 PM
enefusee
That’ll be about it if we’re lucky – 3 first team starters and the upandcomers, bring on 2-3 players during the season and that’s 6.
161 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:14 PM
@Ochy would you stoop to primula play?
162 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:16 PM
@ibiza nope it was you only.
Keep that up and ill be knocking on your door. You’ll know its me from my small round glasses, leather mack and side parting
163 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:19 PM
Cwarr….Did you stop by last night then?
In all seriousness, didn’t someone write “ven ve rule ze verld”? Did I really pluck that out of thin air? I can’t find it….i’ve lost control of my mind people – and yes, I did have some control before….I promise
164 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:20 PM
Guys I forgot to mention we still have Xisco. Not that he would strengthen the squad probably just the opposite but I thought it was still a shout
165 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:22 PM
I thought you wrote both those comments ibiza.
166 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:22 PM
I didn’t make it up. I cut and paste it god damn it….
Sorry, now i’m bringing religion in to it. What is wrong with me?
167 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:22 PM
Ibiza
Yes I’m free Friday. I will cook you my own homemade onion stew*. The dress code is insane yet formal.
*terms and conditions apply, results may vary. Ochy accepts no responsibility for any injury, diarrhea or death caused by the stew.
168 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:22 PM
Xisco. Gonna play a big part this season
169 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:22 PM
Cheik Tiotes house doesnt have doors. He doesnt believe in barriers, he breaks them.
170 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:23 PM
Cwarr…..I get the feeling you’re messing with me….and I like it
171 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:23 PM
Cwarr, probably for Deportivo
172 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:23 PM
We don’t need a right-back Santon will play there and we have Raylor as back-up.
173 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:25 PM
@ibiza cut and paste it from your word document entitled “hilarious German phrases by ibizatoon”?
174 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:26 PM
I would like to clarify that I’m not a serial killer. Can’t say the same for Ibiza, god that guys weird, oh crap is he right behind me? Hey Ibiza, I was talking about another Ibiza.
Yeah I should probably get some real friends…
175 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:27 PM
Ochy…..Well I must say I haven’t been this excited for a date in ages.
Death by stew. Going to be a great headstone!
176 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:27 PM
Ketsbaia stop. Now. We don’t need this argument again lol.
@ennyoueffse probably not even for them tbh mate
177 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:28 PM
Xisco did well for us in the reserves. Unfortunately his sending off probably cost him his entire nufc career. Remember him making an assist against Villa and scoring a hat-trick against Man U reserves in a 3-3 thriller. He wasn’t given a decent chance. When you pay money like that, you need to give the player a good bash in the first team. I feel sorry for Xisco.
178 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:28 PM
Ketsbaia9 I would rather play Tavernier again an up and coming star that needs playing time
179 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:28 PM
Cwarr…Ah yes, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me
Ochy….There’s another Ibiza? Well maybe you’d be happier with that one then *sobs*
180 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:29 PM
Actually Ketsbaia i probably started it
181 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:30 PM
Ibiza
Well I’m going to get great head-stoned!
Sorry about that, couldn’t resist.
182 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:30 PM
Ochy….I’d expect nothing less
183 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:33 PM
My headstone will probably say “died as he lived. Choking on bockwurst”
184 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:36 PM
Tavernier deserves a chance during pre-season and then I’d send him out on loan to a championship club. He was at MK Dons last season, so he needs experience in a higher league first. I do think he will be better than Simpson though.
185 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:36 PM
headstone talk i see……
186 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:38 PM
If we had cover at Center half you can always play Stevie Taylor at right back aswell
187 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:38 PM
@786 if there’s a tiote headstone joke ill hit you
188 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:39 PM
Ketsbaia9
i agree tav i think is on the same level as clyne. come to think of it why were we in for clyne when tav was ready made. he will get the chance to start some games in the europe
189 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:40 PM
Are we in for clyne? Really? Aside from newspaper stories.
190 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:41 PM
Ibiza
You’re the only Ibiza for me.
My headstone will probably read: Ochy – he really didn’t know she was under 18; and not a woman.
191 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:42 PM
I think overall today I’ve done my reputation no favours on here. In retrospect, that’s probably no different than any other day. Right, on to footballing matters.
Scores for tonight people?
192 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:42 PM
Nufc786 agree lets give these youngsters some playing time at a decent level. Throw them in in the League cup or even Europe.
193 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:44 PM
ochy….would there be a
at the end of that statement?
Tiote headstone banter….hmmm…
Cwarr…I’m not commenting on your post as it will disappear soon and make me look a fool….again
194 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:46 PM
Ibiza
Croatia 3-2 Spain
Ireland 1-2 Italy
195 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:46 PM
Haha, Clyne is more experienced than Tavernier and has played at a higher level. We don’t need Clyne anyway.
196 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:49 PM
Clyne has played at a higher level agreed but Tav has the talent and we can spend the money elswhere which we would have to spend on Clyne. In my opinion he only needs playing time at a decent level and he would be in the starting 11.
197 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:50 PM
Ketsbaia9
tav i think will turn out better though in the future here is the thing tav starts in europa while clyne will be stuck in the chamapionship(well maybe) then tell me who will have better experience then?
198 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:50 PM
If Simpson can hold down a place all season and don’t get me wrong he did a tremendous job sometimes then Tav could do the same
199 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:52 PM
ENNYOUEFFSEE
its the only way my friend that we will build as a club.. young talent around the world will realise not only nufc is a great and massive club but a club that will be willing to let its juniors ( 18-23 yr olds) develop with 1st team oppertunities
200 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 7:56 PM
Anyone fancy an upset and Spain. To go out?
201 G // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:00 PM
I don’t think that’s likely graham cwarr. From what I’ve seen, Spain are deffo the best team in the tournament. The Germans are still a force, but the Spaniards have that knack of going up a level at just the right moment. It looks likely if we the English finish 2nd in our group, then we will face Spain in the quarters. Spain playing against our defense terrifies me.
202 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:00 PM
Expect either Raylor or Santon to start in europe.
203 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:00 PM
if germany has made the group then i want spain to make it.. the only team i think that will compete with germany me thinks. then there is england and france too but im not quite sure???????????
204 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:01 PM
Nufc786 im sorry but really have to disagree tav although a good prospect he is just that a youth player with potential and to say a player who has played a few games for sheffield wednesday and half a season at mk dons is better than a player who is an established 1st team player who hasnt missed a game in 2 seasons, capped at every international level up to the u21′s is just wrong and a couple of cameos in europa league wobt get him anywhere near first team prem standard.
And as for saying clynes experience is only in the championship
Lets not forget how much experience the likes of collocini enrique and carroll gained there
205 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:01 PM
Ketsbaia9
so u see tav being loaned to a championship club then?
206 G // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:04 PM
Tav has potential, but Clyne is meeting his potential already, and looks better every time he plays. I want Tav to succeed, but I would love to see us bring in Clyne too. Like somebody above says though, it’s probs only paper talk.
207 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:06 PM
toonarmydownsouth
dont be sorry my friend. why this is your opinion….
i undrstand what u are saying about collo enrique and carroll… so u rate clyne higher than tav?
so in your opinion u see tav going to blackpool maybe? well i see it because i rate holloway for developing budding young stars but during the qualifiers wouldnt it help tav develop a higher level then clyne?????
208 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:07 PM
when i say qualifiers i mean qualifiers of the europa league
209 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:07 PM
tav is maybe a step or half a step away from clyne… well in my opinion….
210 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:11 PM
nearly pique……..
211 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:11 PM
torres is starting to resemble his old self again…
212 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:12 PM
and im talking myself…….. great……………………………………..
213 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:13 PM
even if we don’t sign anyone we still have a decent squad which finished 5th last year so not a real disaster.
We have replaced guthrie with amalfitano so not down on numbers….loven and smith never really played so they are no loss.
I am sure we will bring in a CB and a fullback as well as a forward….not too sure after that but that will be fine.
Remember we are only guaranteed 2 extra games over last year…..we might not get to the europa league group stage….and even if we do our youngsters like campbell, sammy, vuckic, tav and fergusen are all a year older and can ave more of an impact in the side.
214 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:14 PM
i’ve killed it………….. YET AGAIN…….
looks like a pen to croatia that winger looks useful…….
215 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:14 PM
okay ibiza its been fun watching you unravel but I can eveal it was in fact me with the ‘rule ze verld’ comment. Rest easy, take all of the pills and say afer me…
Ommmmmmm………….
216 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:14 PM
i havnt killed it………. good……..
217 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:15 PM
does anyone else not enjoy watching spain/barca?
they play really slow with a short passing game for 90% on the time then turn up the pace and push for the last bit of the move.
I much prefer arsenal who have a passing game as well but are much quicker with the build up and are more interesting to watch.
218 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:16 PM
@tsunki then me and my jackboots shall be visiting you rather than ibiza
219 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:16 PM
Nufc786 aye its a higher level but its not consistent game time the point bieng is at 20 clyne was a full seniir squad member whereas at 20 tav is still limited to a handful of appearences so would love to see him somewhere like blackpool for a full season
220 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:17 PM
Ommmmm….can you tell me which number post it was….i can’t find it and it is driving me insane
221 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:17 PM
i miss david villa…….. commentator keeps referring to david silva as villa….
222 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM
its okay nufc786, I’m the official blogkiller ask anyone
Wish the Irish had played with this spirit before. I for one would not be sorry if they ruined Italy’s party, even though I have nowt against the Azzuri. Irish support is something to see isn’t it though?
223 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM
Cwarrr….Don’t leave me out. I did make comments too
224 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM
toonarmydownsouth
holloways the man for tav then … his passion his attitude to how football should be played is great… i remember his rant against rooney……..
225 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:19 PM
Could possibly include a loan for tav in a transfer for matt phillips….think he needs a premier league move this season and would love him at newcastle.
226 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:20 PM
They could not afford the inn, so the innkeeper was forced to send them away. They were made to stay in a stable and lie with the animals.
Desperate times for the Greek squad.
227 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:21 PM
Aye miss holloway in the prem n loved the way he set the team up to be affraid of no1 just attack them
228 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:21 PM
Ouchy/Ibiza. Are you comedy writers. I’m crying with laughter here bravo. Ketsbia didn’t even join in with your little dating escapades just banged on about transfers again (sorry kets). Im not sure how my initial post on the slags dating site got to headstones but I’m copying spike Milligan “I told you I wasn’t well”
229 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:22 PM
end of 119 mate you aren’t imagining things. Again.
Cwarr – have I offended someone like. I mean, more than usual?
Damn Italy scored.
230 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:22 PM
Ibiza – knock knock.
231 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:25 PM
Tsunki you’re mere presence offends me. But im a masochist so do stay
232 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:27 PM
233 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:27 PM
Surely we can have a whole new squad for next season with the money saved on mr.smith’s wages? No!
234 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM
graham cwarr
can i answer it… who’s there??
235 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM
sorry got sidetracked, I thought we were still on the local slags topic for a moment.
236 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:29 PM
Oh no not knock knock jokes. This could run and run
237 Tonytoon73 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:30 PM
Look at Spain against the republic of Ireland they made 800 passes the only time England will do that many passes if we put Wayne rooney on mastermind
238 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM
It will if ibiza doesn’t answer it…. KNOCK KNOCK MAN!
239 pardew no 1 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM
Spain are so boring to watch
240 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM
Tonytoon- unless he gets a question on prossies or erm hair transplants
241 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:33 PM
tonytoon – same amount of passes the localslags site has had this afternoon….
242 Tonytoon73 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:35 PM
hotdog aye your right there
243 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:35 PM
Ibiza- there’s somebody at the door, there’s somebody at the door? I’ll pay for the prossie if someone can name the kids program that’s off?
244 Transfer Sage // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM
Hearing strong rumours that kalou is close to agreeing deal with lille as replacement for hazard.
Lille have dropped interest in Marvin Martin and he will complete his signing for Newcastle after the Euros along with the already complete deal for Debuchy.
With Giroud moving to Arsenal, Newcastle will move for their target, Theo Walcott. Wenger is looking to sell and he could be acquired for around the 10million mark.
245 Tonytoon73 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:38 PM
Tsunki have you been on that site the day like. Lol
246 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:39 PM
Yes sage all your predictions have come true so far but why o why would we pay £10 mil for walcott who has under a year on his contract
247 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:39 PM
hotdog – the aerial man’s show? Parky’s marrer?
248 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:39 PM
i don’t want to see England make 800, 5 yard passes…it gets boring.
I much prefer us to play like arsenal or real madrid…..still technical but with much more pace in the attacks and being able to whip balls in for the fowards from the wing.
249 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:39 PM
Transfer Sage
so we meet… you sound quite confident in your sources…
250 grumpy_old_sod // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM
Really transfer sage,
I think your guessing again!
251 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM
tonytoon – someone has to check. Oh yeah, 799 passes then.
252 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM
Oh Christ ibiza don’t answer the door. Its the bullshi…..erm …i mean transfer sage again.
That’s like the reader knocking but worse
253 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM
rich_toonfan
like i said time and time again…. the english way is not to play football but to play hoofball…….
254 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM
Reaper* damn this android device
255 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM
@ibiza summit to do with emu n a windmill
256 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:42 PM
Tsunki- that answer is incorrect
257 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:42 PM
transfer sage is right about giroud to arsenal as sky sports were announcing its a very close done deal……
i think rvp is going…….
258 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM
Sorry hotdog not ibiza doh!
259 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM
Transfer Sage – I was totally convinced right up to the word ‘Hearing’. Keep it up lad, we’re all behind you 37%
260 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:44 PM
Toonarmy- you are correct. I shall send the prossie straight round. She looks a bit like grotbags mind you but if it was good enough for rod hull……..
261 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:46 PM
Jesus what have villa done to given?? It seems if you shoot directly at him them your garunteed a goal!
262 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:46 PM
@nufc786
England dont play hoofball….they play some good stuff….I mean look at the third goal against sweden….it was a great move.
Just remember that currently we don’t have many technical players…they are all about speed/power not skill.
The FA are trying to change this with changing how kids are coached, pitch sizes, game time etc.
It will be a good ten years before our youngsters will be breaking through….obviously some are doing well currently like wilshire, cleverley but they haven’t had long in senior football and both were setback by injuries this year.
We currently have to play to our strengths….but think walcott, young, rooney, welbeck are decent technically then gerrard and parker are good to have sitting deeper and playing the ball around to the front 4.
263 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:47 PM
Can you send me an emu hotdog?
264 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:47 PM
TThat is hotdog can you send me an emu.
Rather than a hotdog made of emu.
265 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:47 PM
what did rod hull do with his emu?
266 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:47 PM
@tsunki
why is hearing the only word what makes you think transfer sage is wrong? i think that might be the only word e got right haha.
267 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:47 PM
villa has cursed given…………. something about 08/09
268 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:48 PM
Hotdog tbf the only reason i know that is tgey done a piss take in the IT crowd that had me dad in stiches me n my boy were just looking at him like he was cranky so he felt he had to explain!!!
269 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:49 PM
262 rich_toonfan
true but thats the good old fashioned way of playing the english game right????
270 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM
Tsunki- think he snapped its neck whilst falling off that roof
271 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM
Haha Newcastle to move for Walcott haha oh I couldnt hold it back
272 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM
Tsunki rod must of done sonething reallllllly bad to emu for emu to throw him off the roof
273 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:51 PM
When hearing about how rod hull passed on does anybody else picture emu looking up at the roof from a window then suddenly turning to look at the ground as theres a thud?
Morbid i know but i can’t shake the imahr
274 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:53 PM
I think england are better than they get credit for.
they were over rated by the media for years and years now they act like the are a set of pub players.
the truth is we are somewhere in the middle…..not as good as spain, germany, etc but better than the likes of ireland, ukraine, croatia.
remember we only beat spain a few months ago…yes it was a friendly and we didnt see much of the ball but we beat them. you can use the argument of it being a friendly saying spain didn’t try 100% but the same could be said of england.
If any team makes it to the final playing dull football and scrape a win to lift the trophy any fan would take that from their country…people in england don’t admire defensive ability at all as we are used to seeing good attack football in the premier league. Italy would rather win the tournament 1-0 all the way through than 4-3, totally opposite attitude to us.
275 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:55 PM
@wwycd
is the laugh about walcott due to him being an unrealistic target or because you dont like him?
I think he would be a great signing, him, cisse and benny would be a great front 3. But I don’t think we have a chance, he apparently wants 100k a week off arsenal.
276 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:56 PM
rich_toonfan
england is a very good team.. the only thing i hate is the media overhyping and overating putting unneeded pressure on english players and managers…….
277 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:58 PM
Toonarmy. Me and your old man were brought up on some fine tv not. If there is one player I’d love to see in a toon shirt it’s iniesta love watching him…..well not him personally….well you know what I mean
278 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:59 PM
nufc786
yeh thats the problem….but they will continue to print that rubbish if people buy it
279 GeordieToon89 // Jun 18, 2012 at 8:59 PM
Walcott would be a cracking signing for us but well howay seriously ha?
Giroud to Arsenal – Yes
Debuchy to Us – imo Yes
Martin to Us – NO
Walcott to Us -NNNNOOOOOOWWWAAYYY
280 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:00 PM
Crazy that Spain could go out from only one Croatian goal
281 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:01 PM
indeed that just goes to show the cruelty that comes hand in hand with playing for england…… the media is very bad
282 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:02 PM
Finally! sensible conversation. Emu probably stared down at Rods broken form and silently thought ‘there’s some body on the floor, there’s some body on the floor’, Yeah I then picture Emu taking a stick with a knotted polka dot hanky with his gear in it (spare beak, haemhorrhoid ointment after where Rod’s hand had been all those years to answer your question, TADS) then living rough and occasionally doing guest gigs at working men’s clubs, opening Iceland stores and so on. Finally ending up on drugs, having to advertise in ‘Fate a local slag’. The shame.
283 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:02 PM
rich
Unrealistic target mate, personally I like Walcott a lot and I think he gets a lot of uncalled for stick but as for us signing him HA
1. Why would he want to join us when Chelsea are big admirers of him (as am sure many others are)
2. Wages as u mentioned
3. He is a London lad and I’d bet he is very happy living down there
All adds up to utter balls from the new Colin known as Sage
284 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM
Modtic quality nearly sent Spain on the plane home
285 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM
Nearly Croatia
286 nufc786 // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:04 PM
there are cheaper versions of walcott out there in the world.. do not forget that…… just a little digging round holland and germany……. all it takes…..
287 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:04 PM
er that was #date a local slag my bad
288 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM
Tsunki i just cracked up.
289 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:06 PM
oh yeh….not a chance we would get him.
he is good but is he special enough to meet his demands? no way.
we need to be looking for the next walcott…get him cheap and bring him through.
if you look the only finished articles we signed are cabaye, cisse and ba. one was a free transfer, cabs had a release clause, and cisse had a relegation release clause so we got him cheap.
I can’t see us paying full price for any player at the top of their game….to costly and not worth it.
290 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:07 PM
Tsunki unfortunatly emu died last i heard they cut his head and legs off and were hiring his body out as part of a colocini fancy dress kit
Also where the hell has this version of modric cone from hes quality!
291 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM
The next Walcott? Isnt that the Ox and he cost 10 mill haha
292 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM
@786 we got the cheaper walcott. Obertan. All pace and skill just needs to.learn to think and make decent crosses
293 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:09 PM
spurs play modric too deep…he stays next to parker and therefore doesn’t get chance to influence the play as much.
he should be in a free role ahead of parker and somebody who is a good passer…in the alonso mould.
294 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:10 PM
McGeady and di Natale…sign them up
Oh no wait sorry I will try that again…I am hearing strong rumours Newcastle are waiting until after the Euros to move for their real targets McGeady and di Natale
295 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:10 PM
credit to transfer gobsage for kicking the footy talk back in though. Even if it’s absolute tripe and known rumour in a heady mix
296 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:12 PM
Ha ha O’Shea plays for the mackems. What a crock! Not the nice one with gold in either.
297 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:12 PM
The football cameramen are uberpervs. Keep finding the birds
298 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM
Tsunki- some body on the floor – brilliant haha
Cwarr – you seemed like a level headed guy until you rated obertan and no I am debating him again he is shite.
299 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:16 PM
@hotdog i never said i rated Obertan. Just think he looks like walcott when he first played for arsenal and England. No thinking and terrible crosses but lots of pace and some decent skill.
300 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:22 PM
oh dear Fibreglass dithered there that was defo his chance
301 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM
glad I switched from the Direland versus Pitifully match Croatia nearly in there
302 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM
Cwarr- people keep mentioning his pace. I haven’t even seen that. Damn I replied
Croatia are making more chances on the break. Gotta say I’d prefer Spain to go out
303 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM
er sorry what was Busquets thinking?
304 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:24 PM
Fiberglass? Lol and his comrades chavvy and picky?
305 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:26 PM
i wish spain would use a centre forward….
they dont have messi so play a real striker
306 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:26 PM
I think Obertan has pace but not the confidence to use it and get past his man. Its all in his head and I dont know if he’ll master it.
Anyone else not particularly worried any more about who we might face if we go through the group stage? No stand-out teams for me this time round. Although Germany are typically efficient even when they play crap they win.
307 Dannyo // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:27 PM
Walcott to nufc… Right!
308 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM
Hotdog he has pace. Very quick off the mark but seems to leave his brain sitting where he sped off from
309 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:29 PM
Cwarr –
310 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:30 PM
Dannyo – I know, it’s made everyone turn their computer on ha ha…
311 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:31 PM
Spain are still the team to beat for me.
312 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:31 PM
Oh well spain get the goal.
313 Dannyo // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:31 PM
@Tsunki
I dont belive it’s Obertans confidence anymore. He had a lengthy run in, he managed a goal, which showed some composure btw.
He has good teammates, knows both english and French well so he doesn’t get left out.
I think it’s about decision making. And if u’re poor at that, u’re only gonne get better through experience, repeating scenarios over and over again.
But if u lack concentration aswell… Have fun in the french league 2!
I’m not saying he lacks the latter, but he showed zero sign of improvement through his 20 matches, various performances at times, but no general inprovement. Hope he has a better season in the upcoming.
314 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM
I turn over just in time to see Spain score…ffs I should of stayed with the Irish
Only turned over because of the biased commentary
315 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM
Spain doing what they set out to do. Walk it into the net
316 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM
Ohh there you go:-) gotta say I ain’t enjoyed the last few tournaments with all the cheating and diving but this euro has been quality
317 JAMSHA // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM
whatculture.com/sport/newcastle-united-transfer-news-raul-garcia-in-6-5-million-move.php
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318 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:34 PM
AND I MISS SUPER MARIO SCORING ONE OF HIS P TAKE GOALS
319 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:34 PM
Dannyo – well I really don’t know what is holding him back but I agree he doesn’t show signs of change at all. Frustrating because you can kinda see there is something there. maybe it’s an illusion, and maybe it’s why SAF took so long to figure it out.
320 Dannyo // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:35 PM
Jesus scores for Spain, Mario scores for Italy.
Football.
321 JAMSHA // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:36 PM
Italy
2-0
322 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:36 PM
Jesus Navas is 2m in the offside but anyhow….Croatia doesn’t have the cash to buy off uefa scum….
323 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:37 PM
spain does
324 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:37 PM
WWYCD no! he hasn’t has he?
325 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:38 PM
navas wasn’t offside for the goal at all
326 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:39 PM
Tsunki
Aye sort of falling over overhead kick straight past Given then the standard stand up look moody shrug off other players slowly walk away celebration cant wait for Fifa13 to have that option
327 Dannyo // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:39 PM
@Tsunki
Some people are just late bloomers too, could be a simple thing like that. This is a nasty connection, i know, but unless Obertan improves, i’m gonna call him a right winged Bramble….
Not dragging into off the pitch stuff ofc.
328 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:39 PM
er navas wasn’t offside when the ball was played to Iniesta so……..
329 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:40 PM
Navas wasent offside but looked like Inesta was imo his head was well past the last defender
330 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:40 PM
Look at replay the dick was offside….. by a country mile
331 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:40 PM
Cwarr – you see what you have started mentioning overran haha I typed obertan and auto correct typed overran….. The chances
332 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:41 PM
Anyhow Rakitic sent Croatia home….idiot…
333 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:42 PM
@dannyo its a pity if ober doesn’t grab the bull by the horns he’ll never achieve what he is surely capable of
334 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:42 PM
@dannyo
you summed up obertan pretty well….it is not lack of confidence it is more down to him not making the right decisions.
for me obertan could be like bale…..don’t need many fancy tricks, just knock the ball into space and leave the full back in the distance.
Unfortunately he doesn’t do that, he just seems to cut inside a play a simple pass then doesn’t bomb on.
Hopefully he will learn and improve on it next season.
335 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM
gorgonzola – no he wasn’t. Iniesta COULD have been called, there have been some tight decisions but Navas definitely no.
336 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM
just watched replay he is clearly onside.
When fabregas plays the ball over iniesta is onside….then he squares it and navas is behind the ball so onside…
….they have just gone over this on the coverage on bbc….clearly onside.
337 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:44 PM
Ok I conceed Inesta may well of been just onside but its very tight and Spain are luck I aint the linesman
338 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM
the replay on bbc with a line put on showed that the only part of iniesta that was possibly offside was his hand…which doesn’t count anyway.
339 Dannyo // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM
Several of his teammates rates Gabby as the most skillfull. Matters little if u dont know how to use it.
AP took a chance on him, has to pay off the upcoming season, or he’ll be moved on.
340 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:46 PM
@gorgonzola
the main issue with officials in the game is them missing busquets pulling eduardo out of the air by his shirt when the corner came i…clear penalty
341 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM
rich & dannyo – I hear what you are saying and yes his decision making is poor, but that can be affected greatly by lack of confidence in his ability. Also for someone who was essentially bought for his pace, he will not just poke the ball up the line and run after it and leave his man behind like I am sure he can. And it takes no genius to decide to pull that move off. I am open to accepting a combination of the two. Last offer, sorry but that’s it. No sorry no won’t be turned.
342 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM
at least if obertan doesn’t work out it wasn’t much money down the drain….we will probably get a million or so selling him back to a french side i imagine.
343 grumpy_old_sod // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Apparently French papers are saying that we’ve bid 5 mil euros for debuchy, according to twitter.
344 graham cwarr // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:49 PM
How many goals have there been un the tournament so far?
345 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:50 PM
@tsunki
i agree his confidence is an issue….but he really needs to overcome that or he will never achieve anything with his career.
I just want him to do well, he seems like a genuine, hard working pro and a likeable guy….would love him to be a 10 goal a season winger.
346 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:52 PM
Ah well doesnt matter anyway England are going to win the Euros, get second in the group will then take Spain out next after that batter France/Italy in the semis and on to zee Germans for a old fashioned grudge match will go the full time end on pens where upon Hart will save then score the winner
347 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM
rich – yeah I know, I know. When he first turned up I thought we were going to inherit a fantastic talent. I am also of the opinion he could be gone by mid-term next year if he doesn’t shape up. Yep, that soon.
348 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:56 PM
Ok just saw the Balotelli goal – excellent. Player – turd. If he had a personality and got rid of that chip on his shoulder I could love him as much as Ronaldo.
349 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM
I had little faith in obertan and he hasn’t done anything to convince me otherwise.
But I can see he has some talent….its just whether he can go from being a top youth player to a top senior player….
…you see so many youngsters who you think will end up being a top star and then just fade away. Hopefully obertan isn’t one of them.
350 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM
And I thought we played boring football. Spain are so, so average and have been lucky that decisions have gone their way. I reckon we can beat ‘em. Defend and counter like Croatia. Spain spend far too much time prancing about in the box trying to walk the ball in, hell, that’s pretty much Del Bosque’s entire strategy. If we go one up, I think we’re through to the semis.
351 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM
I think you’re right if we concentrate and Terry doesn’t get left behind again Spain could be pretty ineffective. Also how do you think their defence would handle Carroll?
352 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:09 PM
Breaking news on sky 8 mil bid for de Jong
353 Dondatta13 // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Sky Sports News just said “They understand Newcastle United have bid £8Million for Luke DeJong”.
Also they say that FC Twente are currently considering the offer…
354 GeordieToon89 // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Now Football?@Now__Football
BREAKING: Newcastle have made a bid of £8million for FC Twente striker Luuk De Jong. #NUFC
355 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Breaking News: Transfer Rumour!
356 seantoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Think I’m going to cream my pants tonight!!!!
357 ochytoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Reading between the lines, MA has no money and we’re in administration. Also there are hookers.
358 dmac // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Id be well chuffed with this. However the fact its public is strange. Luuk De Jong is class
359 GeordieToon89 // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:16 PM
I’ve never even heard us mentioned on Sky sports news
360 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:18 PM
Sky sports are rarely wrong with tw stuff they out on the channel. Hopefully this can be wrapped up, holland are out of euros so he is available for a medical.
361 hotdog // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:18 PM
Could be bull Geordie as its sky but they have reported it!
362 dmac // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:25 PM
Start as we mean to continue! Luuk De Jong and defenders!!
363 GeordieToon89 // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM
8million bid in for Debuchy and an 8million bid in for De Jong!! Twitter
364 seantoon // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2012/06/18/3184052/luuk-de-jong-benfica-would-be-a-good-club-for-me
365 Oldgit1 // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Looks like this was the player AP was looking at, at the Euros, so debauchy wasnt that player when he said he was looking at A player and hoped he didnt have a good game. RB position is now wide open for discussion .
366 SupaToonKid // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Hope this deal for Luuk de Jong can go through would be good buy at £8M. Hope Pards chose to pundit for BBC so he could was watch Mario Mandzukic as he’d be a super signing (apparently available for a decent fee from Wolfsburg) as he looks a top player from his club record and his performances during the Euros also can play out wide as well as CF so would be useful in 4-3-3 formation. Then just need Debuchy, CDM & CB and we’d be done.
367 GeordieToon89 // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:37 PM
Maybe weve had Krul on the case of De Jong and Cabaye and Ben Arfa on the case of Debuchy ha
368 SupaToonKid // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:38 PM
Oldgit1
Yeah but Luuk de Jong didn’t exactly play any games for Holland, what did Pards do hide in the bushes with Graham Carr at Holland’s training came? Still think Pards may have used that as a decoy to say were watching one of the starters i.e. Debuchy and then sneakily sign de Jong who was unseen at the Tournament (hopefully anyway)!
369 GeordieToon89 // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Mandzukic will end up at Everton a reckon so he can partner Jelavic cos they only have 1 striker really
370 SupaToonKid // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:41 PM
where is this so-called Sky Sports story about Luuk de Jong anyway? Latest story i can find is de Jong saying he’d be suited to Benfica’s style (that only came out 25 mins ago)!
371 GeordieToon89 // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:41 PM
Well weve been linked with De Jong for a while he even said in Jan he’d be interested in coming to us
372 Jonas // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:41 PM
Ahaha you all over think these situation. Try not to build your hopes up lads as you will most likely will be disapointed. as you will never of heard of our new superstars!
373 Oldgit1 // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM
@supatoonkid, you are right appears he didnt get a game, so yes debuchy maybe the man, both players would be good.
374 SupaToonKid // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:44 PM
GT89
Do Everton really have the finance to sign Mandzukic though? I say we go for it as i’d rather have Junior Hoilett but unfortunately the lad seems money fixated so Mandzukic looks a good player as Heung Min Son seems to be unavailable from Hamburg & Zaha is massively overpriced!
375 WWYCD // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:44 PM
Last time we were ‘Breaking News’ on Sky we signed Cisse….just saying though I dont believe anything until they are holding a NUFC shirt
376 No Plain Saylor // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Supatoonkid.. mandzukic was released!! And he’s 26 so no compensatipn to pay or anything! And with 19 goals in 50 games for wolfsberg, where he played winger most of the time it’d be a good signing. I was hopin he’d bury one against spain just so I could hear pards talk about him haha
377 GeordieToon89 // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:46 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/7824873/Newcastle-bid-8m-for-De-Jong
378 dmac // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:49 PM
I want to wake up tomorrow and see this as done haha it would be amazing!
379 GeordieoftheSouth // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:51 PM
Alot of people thinking De Jong is Ba’s replacement? Surely not at 21.
380 GeordieToon89 // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:52 PM
Also De Jong would be an awesome partner for Cisse in a 4-4-2
381 rich_toonfan // Jun 18, 2012 at 10:57 PM
Not a fan of Nicholas bendtner but uefa have made a big mistake with him.
He got fined 100,000 euros for wearing sponsored boxers whilst last year Porto as a club were fined 16,000 pound for fan racially abusing ballotelli.
Uefa and FIFA just constantly make themselves look stupid.
382 Dondatta13 // Jun 18, 2012 at 11:10 PM
rich_toonfan@381…
Agreed!
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