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Newcastle Striker Demba Ba Opens Talks In Turkey

8:45 am, Sunday, June 24th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 45 Comments

If the Sunday Express is to be believed today,  then Newcastle striker Demba Ba has opened talks in Turkey with both  Galatasaray and Fenerbahce.

Demba Ba - in talks in Turkey?

That’s the news this morning, and it’s a little surprising that Galatasaray would be opening talks with the Newcastle striker, because back on June 16th  their President Unal Aysal had confirmed the Turkish club was no longer interested in Ba, and he had this to say to the press::

“Ba’s name was suggested to us by a committee member and we opened negotiations after approval from manager Fatih Terim.”

“However, negotiations have stopped. We already have Johan Elmander and have two other strikers.”

“The future of Milan Baros is uncertain and if he leaves, we will replace him with a bigger name. Demba Ba is not that striker.”

And we suppose it could be true that he has opened talks with Fenerbahce, and certainly the many agents that represent him will only get money if he signs somewhere else, and before August 1st rolls around.

That’s because his release clause of £7M, which Harry Redknapp told the world about in January – why,  we have no idea – is only active in June and July.

There’s not much more news than the fact he has opened talks in Turkey in the Sunday Express,  and of course we have no idea if this story is true,  or what the source is for the Express.

But this news was also circulating a couple of days ago in various reports.

If  Demba Ba wants to move on from Newcastle for more money – so be it – Newcastle only want players on Tyneside who want to be there.

Whether this news is true or not,  Newcastle manager Alan Pardew will want to talk to the Senegal striker soon, to understand what his intentions are, as pre-season training starts at Newcastle on July 5th, which is a week on Thursday.

In his first full season in the Premier League last season,  Demba Ba scored 16 goals in 36 appearances for Newcastle,  and we know manager Alan Pardew wants to keep him at the club, and so do we – but only if he wants to stay.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Contracts · Demba Ba · Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours



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45 responses so far ↓

  • 1 davybtoon // Jun 24, 2012 at 8:49 AM

    This story is like 2weeks old the journos must b desperate having to reprint old stories

  • 2 Tiote // Jun 24, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    Turkey? Dnt kno why any1 would want 2 live ther. Even Turks . Ah that’s rite they don’t ther al over here.

  • 3 GeordieDan // Jun 24, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    If this is a new story (and I doubt even the original one had any credibility to it) then it doesn’t make sense anyway.

    Maybe its one of his eleventythree agents just asking questions of the Turk teams to find out what interest is there to get themselves some cash because WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would want to leave the Prem to play in Turkey?!?

    I smell potent BS here.

  • 4 solano // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Geordie Dan…”potent BS”…I don’t think he has posted yet?

  • 5 archaeomag // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    ‘arry’s dog Rosie told a reporter that this story is made up . . . . .

  • 6 hdavid23 // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    if he really goes to Turkey, im very disappointed in him… if he wants to step forward, thats ok with me… but going to Turkey is definitely a step backwards considering football matters, hes doing it only for the money…

  • 7 Ben3arfa // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    I’, in the opinion that if Ba gets offered a much better salary than what he is recieving here , then he has every right to move ..

    Everyone know the problem with his knee so he needs to look after his long term future financially before pledging his allegiance anywhere ..

  • 8 bills-son // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    Rsol ano has posted tho !

  • 9 rich_toonfan // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    Read about a move to galatasaray a few days ago on star Africa site.

    Says an 11milkion euro deal has been agreed.

    And why does everyone think they know the exact details o the clause? Nothing has been confirmed just rubbish from papers.

    And David gold from west ham won’t know….the deal was between us an Ba so he wont know. Might be guessing as they could have had a similar deal.

  • 10 roe997 // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    if this storey turns out to be true.i think ba’s excuse will be for religious resons.he is a devowed muslim and turkey is a majority islamic nation.even football scedule is based around islam including rammadam

  • 11 solano // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Let’s get this straight, this story may well just be a turkey, but either way, why is everyone getting their knickers in a twist?
    Is he a greedy mercenary? Yes, most likely. That’s why he has release clauses in his contracts at Newcastle and previous clubs. That is why we were in for him in the first place last year. That’s part of our strategy. No doubt it has worked out this time for both the player and the club – his knee hasn’t collapsed and his value has increased (though we will make little from a sale).Just don’t, as fans, expect any real affinity or loyalty.
    Live by the sword, die by the sword.
    Our transfer policy is based around regular turn over of players – it suits the boardroom and the player – as there’s money to be made and a wagebill to be curtailed. Many fans accept this as we have faith in our scouting network continuosly providing alternatives. The problem for me lies in the dangerous short termism of it all and the unabashed touting of our assets to richer/more ambitious/foolhardy clubs to pay inflated fees.
    Good business maybe, but conducive to footballing success? The club has the money in the bank and the opportunity to build a squad that can challenge at the very top. Maybe we can extend Mr Carr’s remit to find the odd player who isn’t in it just for the cash or a stepping stone? Or better still, for him to persuade his bosses, that they are still sitting on untapped gold in terms of the club’s potential, if they invest SOME of the £50+ in transfer profits made since taking over the club.
    We need a strengthened squad made up of players who want to achieve playing success and a set-up where the talented manager can do his stuff without constantly having to field questions about potential departures.

  • 12 solano // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    ss lil nob…hooked you again, I see ;-)

  • 13 fungus44 // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Let the money graing juudas go if he wants, he,ll find out leaving us is not the best thing like every player that has found out

  • 14 aytac007 // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    i am a gala fan and there is talk of demba ba signing for galatasaray, if gala wants to sign this player they have the money to sign him trust me even if the price was 15 million, they can afford it. reasons why demba ba wants to join gala well i will list them for you:
    1. champions league football
    2.he is muslim and turkey is a muslim country
    3. best friend moussa sow plays for fenerbahce
    4.he will earn double what he earns at nufc as you pay less tax in turkey. i know that demba ba is waiting to see if gala are going to go through with the transfer and he’s no1 choice of club is gala and he turned down tottenham as he is waiting to hear from gala

  • 15 Rotonda heights // Jun 24, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    Can’t see how we can keep the guy unless he surrenders all these clauses.

    It just becomes untenable otherwise, with the player and the agent calling all the shots.

  • 16 aytac007 // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:02 AM

    nothing is concrete but i know that gala president said that he plans to unveil 4-5 player signings all in one day between the 25th and 30th of this month so check out sporx.com or galatasaray.org to see if demba ba’s face is on the website then you will know for sure.

  • 17 fungus44 // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    if he wants to go for more money let the money grabber go we only want player,s who want to be here ,and it seems he wants out for that very reason

  • 18 aytac007 // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    istanbul is a better place to live than newcastle, the rich areas where the footballers live is unbelievable plus it doesnt rain like 365 days a year in turkey like in england, its meant to be summer but its been pissing all day here in london

  • 19 Harley // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    Can’t believe we’re losing ba, tote, krul, coolocini, cabaye and Ben arfa this summer. Oh and santon too, forgot about him off to Roma.
    We’ll not be able to put out 11 players!!

  • 20 aytac007 // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    players would want to leave if youre never going to win a trophy, what chance has newcastle got of winning anything with the likes of manu,chelsea and man city be realistic, there is a better chance of pigs flying than nufc winning a trophy

  • 21 aytac007 // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    good luck to england against italy, i hope it doesnt go to pens as i think joe hart is trash, i cant believe england cant produce 1 half decent goalkeeper.

  • 22 Lee Dodd // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    What a Load Of Crap – Sick to Death Of Newspapers Stiring The You Know What I can Get Them a Shovel and Some Cow Muck to Shovel if they are That Desperate. Aparantly Roony Is Going to Arsenal and Carroll is going to The Yids Got That From The Mail !!!!!!! Not That France are Out at Least We Will get a few Signings this week…

  • 23 Toon Tang // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:24 AM

    i honestly dont know why any black player would ever want to go to turkey . Its a massive hotbed of racism more so than any other footballing nation.

    big time mistake if he goes there

  • 24 hdavid23 // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    have a mate who lived there for a really short time… also for sport, but he said he was so afraid he couldnt sleep without a gun under his pillow… as the team wouldnt grant him one, he left after 2 weeks… this is what awaits Demba Ba there as well…

  • 25 aytac007 // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    turkey is not a racist country like greece and other eastern european countries like ukraine russia etc, african players are the fans favourites. alot of people here in the uk think there is racism in turkey towards african players, in 20 years of watching turkish football i have never seen racist chants or throwing of bananas like in spain,greece and russia, not kidding ive not seen it in turkey not even once, the only thing i remember is eboue being pelted with lighters and so on as the fans thought he was feigning an injury but thats normal in turkey as it happens to all footballers if they anger the opposition fans by doing silly things

  • 26 bills-son // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    solano @ 11 is back with his nonsense.

    Last summer he was saying Ashley had no ambition, wouldn’t spend money on quality players, would sell our top players at the first half decent bid and his only goal was just escaping relegation and milking the club dry.

    All proven to be totally and absolutely wrong.

    We signed top players in Cabaye, Ba and Santon amongst others, didn’t sell one of our top players either in the summer or January, gave improved long term contracts to Tiote, STaylor, Krul, Guti and Colo and topped that by paying £9M for Cisse. And far from finishing just above relegation we were in with a Champs League shout right until the last game of the season and qualified for the Europa. We played some of the best attacking football since the Keegan years and the team spirit at the club is as good as its ever been.

    And yet …

    Solano has a new whinging angle on all of this ‘Our transfer policy is based around regular turn over of players – it suits the boardroom and the player – as there’s money to be made and a wagebill to be curtailed.’

    A regular turn over of players????? When??

    We haven’t sold a top player since AC 18 months ago and then only for a ridiculous unturndownable £35M in cash.

    Listen up solano – if Ashley had wanted to sell Tiote, Krul, Colo or STaylor over the last 18 months they would have been away. He could have banked c£40M for those four BUT THEY ARE STILL HERE and all four have been given new improved contracts.

    After last seasons great campaogn we now have Cabaye, Ba, Cisse, HBA and Santon to add to your ‘turn over’ list of players that you believe Ashley is just dying to cash in on. We’ll see eh.

    You cite Ba’s release clause ‘That is why we were in for him in the first place last year.’ as another derogatory swipe at Ashley’s policies. More mug you and the other clubs who didn’t take the gamble on his knee. 16 Prem goals from a free striker. However, the release clause suited both parties at the time, and any club wanting to sign Ba has to take an uninsurable £20M+ gamble. In the meantime we’ve put our insurance policy into place by bidding £10M for De Jong. According to you solano Ashley should be dying to trouser £7M from Ba not spending that and adding another £3M to buy another striker.

    Simple fact is solano you were 100% wrong with your Ashley predictions last summer. Predictions that were led not by reasoned analysis but by your self publicised hatred of the guy. The same goes for your ‘turn over’ claim, a claim that is absolutely baseless on fact – NO TOP PLAYER SOLD FOR 18 MONTHS.

    I honestly believe that your are HOPING AND PRAYING that Ashley sells 4/5/6 of our best players this summer so that you can restore your battered credibility and spill out your Ashley filled bile and hatred with renewed enthusiasm.

    If that is the case – which I believe it is – you are a sad sad man solano. Forget me, your real battle is with Mike Ashley. And he has driven you into the dust solano.

  • 27 bills-son // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Just to clarify @ 26 – we didn’t sell Enrique he wouldn’t sign a new contract – big difference. Barton and Nolan weren’t IMO top players, not in Tiote, Cabaye and HBA’s class.

  • 28 aytac007 // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    why is nufc fans so angered by demba ba wanting to leave, if he has a clause that means he didnt intend to stay at nufc for long, football is a proffesional sport, its really up to the players nowa dayz, if he wants to go thers no need to dwell on the matter just look for a new striker

  • 29 Tiote // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Aytac007
    The countrys about 50 year behind us n that’s b in kind. Full of rapist n sexist pigs.
    A bet ur a Turk th way u say it’s lyk living th dream. Piss off bk 2 turkey if it’s that good

  • 30 Les Grossman // Jun 24, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Tiote
    Racist little AHole.
    My father is Turkish! I have past your comments accusing the Turkish people forward to the police to see if we can get mugs like you off the Internet!

  • 31 Tiote // Jun 24, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Les Grossman

    A think the police will have better things 2 do than look into someone’s opinion. Same for you

  • 32 fenew // Jun 24, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    I am a supporter of Newcastle and Fenerbahce. I have lived in Istanbul and England and to be honest I would choose Istanbul in a heartbeat. People,food,climate, services,culture, housing are all superior to England. And if you have any knowledge of history and culture you know that Istanbul is known for taking people as they are no matter colour or religion. And I am not from Turkey nor muslim.

  • 33 GFH // Jun 24, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    bills-son@26 Cheers for your retort to solanas drivel.I couldn’t make my mind up whether I could be bothered to deflate his repetitive whinge . Just as I was thinking I would do so , I saw that you had done it very well.Thanks for saving us the bother.

  • 34 tomellifred360 // Jun 24, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Bored of all this ‘will he, won’t he rubbish!’ Make a decision, Demba so that we can all move on!

    Guys, lets try and keep things civil!

  • 35 fenew // Jun 24, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    Yes lets keep it civil. Just funny how people were backing their view of Turkey being racist with racist stereotype of muslim country.

  • 36 bills-son // Jun 24, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    Cheers GFH @ 33

    solano has got to be one of most repetitively nonsensical and inaccurate posters on this forum. His whinging pompous filled rants are actually becoming quite a canny joke to read.

  • 37 Munster Mag // Jun 24, 2012 at 1:22 PM

    Billson, out of interest, can you state your position now if Ba is sold for 7mill? I dont want him to go at all, and feel its a case of short memory for those who are happy to see him go. I’m not sure where you are going with the 20mill uninsurarble gamble. Leaving aside wages , which will have to be paid anyway, surely the gamble is less now, as Ba has proved his fitness over a season? If we sell Ba because we wont pay him more wages, then I think its a foolish move. The guy is tried and tested here, and successful. Relying on Cisse to come up with 20+ goals is foolish I think. As you know, I’m not anti ashley any more but when he shows the willingness to pay for players like Cisse each season, or more regularly, I’ll feel happier. Similarly, a willingness to pay higher salaries, for proven players here, like Ba.

  • 38 alanrichie // Jun 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    The title of this article and the debuchy only wanting to join newcastle are both ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING ED?!

    really annoying me this blog at the mo.

    Sort it out?! it use to be class now it sounds like the sunday papers.

  • 39 davis_toons // Jun 24, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    Harry Redknapp is no longer a manger of any club, he can leave us in peace now.

    Thats great. he will often resort to such tactics, so that we can get weaken in our attack department? and 1 team less for 4 spot?

    But anyhow if the club keep going the right direction we will NOT be stop in anyway.

  • 40 Minato // Jun 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM

    While I certainly won’t partake in any issues relating to race or culture (instanbul vs newcastle) I still have a few things I’d like to say…especially to a number of Turkish Mags/ outsiders that have chosen to blog today.

    Most Newcastle fans will agree with me in saying that if Demba wants to leave, we wont stand in his way.While Galatasary is a big club, with a good footballing history and the cash to now back a little ambition, can you honestly say a move for him there will represent a step up? No disrespect but the turkish league is a huge step down in quality from premiership football.

    You are welcome to take him but please don’t delude yourselves. If he goes to you in footballing terms it shows a distinct lack of ambition. All im saying for now…

  • 41 bills-son // Jun 24, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    Munster Mag – The reason why Ba has a £7M clause is all down to the fact that we got him on a free. When he faled his medical at Stoke (after they agreed a £9M fee) he went to West Ham on a free. Why? Because his knee could go at any time and he cant be insured, therefore paying a transfer fee + a 3 year+ contract is an uninsurable gamble. Because West Ham got Ba for free with low wages he insisted on a free if West Ham got relegated – which they did. However, he’d scored 7 goals in 12 games in the Prem. If Ba wasn’t uninsurable he would have been able to negotiate far better wages than the £35K a week basic plus £20K appearance that we gave him. So he insisted on the £7M clause (I have heard he wanted £3M but Ashley pushed it to £7M).

    That clause gave Ba the opportunity to try and negotiate big wages if he kept scoring, which he did. The problem any buying club has is that they have to pay £7M + c£2M signing on fee + c£1M agents fee + probably £70K a week for 3 years. Add that lot up and its a £20M uninsurable gamble on Ba’s knee holding firm.

    That’s why clubs in the Prem aren’t lining up to sign him. THat £7M fee is actually working more in our favour, not Ba’s. as is the fact that he was playing last season and getting £55K a week. That means any buying club has to take one hell of a gamble to make Ba’s deal better than the Toons.

    My bet is Ba will still be here next season. And if not, good luck to him and the buying club.

  • 42 Geordiedoonsooth // Jun 24, 2012 at 4:37 PM

    If he is only interested in money then let him go the money grabbing b**tard. We are better off without him

  • 43 jon.c // Jun 24, 2012 at 5:12 PM

    For goodness sake sort Ba out now,i am sick as parrot
    with all the paper talk let us bring this saga to a quick end

  • 44 Minato // Jun 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    @41

    Depends how much truth there is in the release clause only applying to teams in the champions league next year. If there is any truth in it I think Ba will be certainly leaving for a club outside of the premiership. Man Utd wont take the risk with the figures involved..same applies to Arsenal (they have Podolski now anyway) and City and Chelsea won’t be in for him with the options they have. Spurs and the others will have to obviously pay more if the rumors have any truth, ruling them out too.

    After all that has been said on both sides I honestly don’t care if he leaves. While I am as grateful as any fan for the important goals he has scored for us, I think his attitude since Cisse arrived and his conduct regarding the contract dispute have only underlined his type. I think he will go and I think it will be a step down in ambitions but an increase in money for him. Replace him with De Jong who would suit that left side in a three better anyway and move on I say.

  • 45 demboy // Jun 24, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    ba has already signed for galatassaray
    http://www.ndamli.sn/index.php/fr/football/6688-demba-ba-a-galatasaray




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