Ola Toivenon Is Cheaper Option Than Luuk De Jong


The Journal is reporting they think Newcastle could get the Swedish International striker, Ola Toivonen,  for around £5M, even though he is said to have a release clause of £8M in his contract.

Ola Toivonen – cheaper option than de Jong by about half

It seems that Newcastle’s number one choice at striker – FC Twente’s Luuk de Jong – is just too expensive, and Newcastle have turned to a cheaper option

If a bid like £5M is accepted, it would be half of the fee that Newcastle have already bid for de Jong, and it was rejected by FC Twente.

And we don’t think Ola is as good as Luuk, and he’s 25 years old, and would join three strikers who are older than him on Tyneside, in Papiss Cisse (26), Demba Ba (27)  and Shola Ameobi (30).

And Luuk de Jong is a better age than Toivonen at just 21, and certainly seems to have the greater potential and time, to become a top striker.

The news yesterday was that Toivonen had a release clause of £8M in his contract, but Newcastle may be able to prise him away from PSV for less than that amount, but the very maximum they would have to pay is £8M, if the news on the release clause is true.

Other big clubs are also interested in Toivonen, so it will not exactly be a piece of cake to get him on Tyneside, but probably the bad news for Newcastle fans is that the club have decided that Luuk de Jong is not good value at more than £10M.

FC Twente are said to be asking between £12.5M and £15M in different reports, and as they’ve done in the past,  if it’s not good value Newcastle will walk away from the deal.

Toivonen turns 26 next Tuesday and still has two years to run on his contract, but seems willing to leave PSV Eindhoven  this summer:

“If PSV want to earn some money by selling me, then now is the time to sell me. If I am not sold, then the chances are that I will not be leaving for the next two years.”

“If something interesting comes along, I will look into it. There are rumours, but I have learned to live with them. I don’t know which clubs are really interested.”

Toivenon is not as good as de Jong, and we’d be much happier with the Dutch striker coming in over the summer.

But we haven’t seen Ola play too many times either, and again it seems Newcastle are after good value for money, and with PSV in poor financial health,  Newcastle probably think they can make a good deal for the Swedish International.

Ola was part of Sweden’s squad of 23 at the Euro 2012 tournament, and he started the games against Ukraine and France, before being substituted in the second half in both those games, but he did not participate in their second game – the 3-2 loss to England.

What do you think about Newcastle possibly signing Ola Toivonen?

Comments welcome.



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35 comments so far

  • Indian Magpie

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #1

    But Is he a better option than de jong?

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  • archaeomag

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #2

    Wow – such insight – The Journo-Chronic must have been hacking Mike Ashley’s phone . . .

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  • papiss_on_your_parade

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #3

    I really do hope this is a distraction.
    De jong looks a great player an he’s definitely worth the extra few million.

    In carr we trust, but big Mike has to realise this is the time to spend a bit more, you can’t always get a bargain and we have some real quality in the team at the moment!

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  • Ben3arfa

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #4

    De Jong is a future Dutch national team starter

    Toivonen is on a bench player for Sweden

    their difference in caliber is quite clear

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  • Belly

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #5

    I don’t see why we wouldn’t be trying to buy both. We’ll need cover for Best and Loverman.
    I think fc twenty where hoping for a bidding war for De Jong which hasn’t happened which means if they need cash and want to sell you might see them giving into our offer. As far as I know our last bid wasn’t rejected, was it?

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  • _Hercules_

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #6

    As a swedish ”Mag” I’m not over the moon about this one.

    But haven’t really heard or read much about it in Swedish media so don’t know what to make of it.

    He is quite technical for his height, good passer on the ball. But don’t really se him making the step up to the English tempo and hard tackling. If he were to sign for us I see him as deep playing forward. But kind of strange that Carr and AP stepped up their interest after the performances he put in recently in the national side?

    Think it’s just agent-talk to be honest.

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  • rudy

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #7

    please no. he’s a very annoying wining player.
    PS. De Jong is top and can play anywhere upfront and is also top of the left of a 3 man attack. and that’s a very big plus!

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  • ~Perchinho the Pheonix~

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #8

    Cheaper but not as good as Luuk De jong.

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  • seantoon

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #9

    We need a striker with pace to burn like Bellamy was. Never seen the guy play is he that type of player?

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  • OoAhDembaBa

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #10

    has anyone seen some of the goals hes scored?

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  • Teamstoof

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #11

    @Ben3arfa
    He is a starter for Sweden! I am from sweden, and support the team Malmö FF that was the last team Ola played in when he was in sweden.
    I think he will be outstanding for us.
    Very good shoot and a good header, he is a tall guy but still very fast and pacy.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #12

    Theres a reason hes cheaper dont understand this move at 26 he hasnt really progressed much might be wrong he might the next cisse but at 21 de jong just seems like a more sensible choice but in carr we trust

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  • ~Perchinho the Pheonix~

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #13

    When In Doubt. Youtube.

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  • traceline

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #14

    Pays your money, takes your choice….

    As has been said before, in Carr we trust (ICWT) – if he says this chap is “value” at 5m and LDJ isn’t at 10+ then I’d rather get OT and use the other 5m elsewhere in the squad.

    The improvement of NUFC is a gradual process, it must be sustainable and realistic.

    I might actually get a printed home shirt with “ICWT” on it…

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  • OoAhDembaBa

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #15

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ola-toivonen/profil/spieler_36500.html

    take a look at the stats for his last season, quite impressive

    key ones to look at are europa league 12 matches 6 goals, eredevisie 33 matches 18 goals

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  • RonVanDam

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #16

    Shiz MA you offered 10m. B/Burn wants Best for 2m. Give them 12m and bring him over. He’s 21 for argument sake and better than Ola whos soon going to be 26 tells you he’ll be a top player by the time De Jong turns 26. His goals will take us higher up the ladder and futher in competitions. He’s worth the extra 2-5m.

    De Jongs name was brought up 2-3 years ago. Its now gaining momentum. Get him now before someone else snaps him up otherwise in 3 years time when he becomes one of the top strikers in the world, it’ll be our turn to say we coulda, shoulda gotten him in 2012

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  • Spoof

    Jun 27, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #17

    Lets be realistic, De Jong £12m, Debuchy £6m, Anita £6m, Douglas £6m, thats a total of £30m, can you really see Mike Ashley spending that much, Toivonen might not be as good as De Jong but he is still a good player and at £6m less that might just allow us to get another of our targets, given a choice of De Jong only or Toivonen plus one of the others then I would take Toivonen.

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  • GeordieToon89

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #18

    Ive slept onit and i’ve decieded Toivenen would be a great signing.. Hes actually got everything and can play in plenty of positions.. He just needs a manager to pull it out of him but the fact he actually SUPPORTS Newcastle he will be working even harder to impress.. Hes quick for a big lad aswell also very strong and knows where the net is.. I’d certainly not be dissapointed if he signed but wouldnt be suprised if its rubbish

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  • JARRAMAG

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #19

    I cant understand people saying De Jong is too expensive at
    £12.5 mill.If we have bid £10 mill then to pay an extra £2.5 mill for a future star instead of say £8 mill for Toivonen then pay it £12.5 mill is not a lot of money to pay for class and i hope this is just a smoke screen.Patrick Kluivert said this boy is going to be a big star and is perfect for our league and he should know being a world class striker himself.

    Please get Dejong.

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  • rich_toonfan

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #20

    That’s presuming we have bid 10 for de jong and its not just paper talk.

    We might have pulled out after 8 million bid or maybe made none at all.

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  • Szarka

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #21

    Dont like him, not good enough but wont be a benchwarmer for sure. Cissé and Ba is better, dont need him as 3rd choice, but too weak to be 2nd, if Ba leaves. De jong is a good 2nd striker,but for a 3rd hes too expensive.

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  • leeb1982

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #22

    Don’t know why people think the likes of lovenkrands and Guthrie etc will be replaced with new first team players. The likes of gosling,vukic,abeid and Sammy will replace them and most of our new players will be youngsters to back up the first team

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  • big_g

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #23

    getting flashback’s of andreas andersson

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  • HullMag6

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #24

    With GT89 on this, I think he can do a job for us if its true. Greater depth in options, would prefer both if them considering fixtures and acon. My real preference is sign some cb’s urgently as thats where the squad is thinnest.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #25

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHGrVW5l89g&feature=related

    If you watch his highlights of Toivonen very similar to Cisse in terms of he scores every kind of goal same age as Cisse as well

    If it meant we got him for 5 million it looks like it could be a bargain there was no guarantees that Cisse would do well in this league either remember

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  • RonVanDam

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #26

    Lol at 23. Me too

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  • wynsleap

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #27

    Unimpressive at the Euros. Unimpressed by this news.
    If he is to be a squad striker only, to go with first choice Demba and Papiss, it would be OK but not if he is to replace Ba. If Ashley and Pardew know that Ba is on his way out then we should be replacing him with top quality ie De Jong or similar.
    And where is this tall dominating, goal scoring centre back Pardew was telling us we badly needed?

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  • HullMag6

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #28

    @ wyn, Shola is retraining as a cb (joking) lol.

    We can manage without extra strikers maybe just, but without specislist cb cover we could have norwich matches again.

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  • TorqToon

    Jun 27, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #29

    I think people are being a bit harsh on this lad. Judging him purely on euro 2012 doesn’t give you a true reflection on a player. If that WAS the case then I highly doubt we would be in for debuchy as his defensive performances have been lacking. Saying that…Rooney, young etc had awful tournaments yet there is still Jo doubting their quality. He is big, strong, scores all different types of goals (as has already been said!) and can play ACM, CF and left/right of a top 3. And at 5mil…I would say that’s a fantastic price. Yes De Jong is younger and the potential and sell on is higher with him, but let’s not write this lad off. He DOES have great hair!! 🙂

    Also…tw@tter stated last night that Ba has signed a new deal. Any truth in that do we think?!

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  • Munster Mag

    Jun 27, 2012 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #30

    Lets stop expecting Carr to pull out rabbits. He;s a great scout, but there are other great scouts out there too and trhey all make errors. We dont have a divine right to great deals. At times Mr Ashley, you just gotta pay the going rate, and to be honest, Cisse would still have represented value for money at 12K. Ashley will rightly still be judged by the fans in gterms of whether he is willing to invest in the right players, and pay the appropriate fee for that quality level. Still, plenty of time yet, and if Ba stays, it may allow us to make a less expensive purchase….

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  • Szarka

    Jun 27, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #31

    Saw Toivonen a few times later, I dont rate him, not a talented striker.

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  • Partizan

    Jun 27, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #32

    For those of you saying Toivonen is not Newcastle’s caliber need to have a reality check.
    Last season wasnt his greatest but the season before he was one of the top players in their league.
    His experience in CL with PSV is gonna be crucial for us in EL and i would take him instead of De Yong in a blink of an eye.
    We need technical players like him who can play almost everywhere in the attacking zone where De Yong is a classic 9 and is slower than Toivonen.

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  • HullMag6

    Jun 27, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #33

    Real pace is something our beloved toons attack is sadly lacking.

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  • Zebras4Life

    Jun 27, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #34

    Agreed – we need pace. As for this ST situation, if I had my way we would bring in John Guidetti

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  • YankeeToon

    Jun 27, 2012 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #35

    This is pretty cut and dry….

    Ola is an attempted upgrade and replacement for Best…

    De Jong will not be signed unless Ba or Arfa are sold…simple as that. If Ola isn’t signed they will move on to another Carr scouted third striker.

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