Good news today that Derek LLambias and Lee Charnley seem to be making a little headway with their negotiations for FC Twente striker Luuk de Jong and the Brazilian defender Douglas.
Douglas – Newcastle have agreed £5M fee from this Brazilian
The Daily Express is reporting this Sunday, that Newcastle have agreed a £5M fee for the 6’4″ center-back, who was born in Brazil, and recently gained Dutch citizenship, and is likely to become a Dutch International defender very soon.
Douglas Franco Teixeira, to give him his full name, turned 24 last January, and Newcastle have been tracking the player all season, and it looks like a deal for the Florianópolis, Brazil born defender may be imminent.
That’s the good news, but the bad news is that FC Twente are holding out for a reported £15M for their 21 year-old striker, Luuk de Jong, and that’s about £5M more than Newcastle have bid for the player so far.
And if that news is true, we don’t think Newcatsle will go as high as that, for the 21 year-old striker, as good as he is.
Douglas joined FC Twente back in 2007 from Brazilian club Joinville,. and by out reckoning, the Brazilian has played a total of 184 times for the Dutch club since then, with 15 goals.
And if this news is true, it seems a decent deal for Newcastle, although more than Newcastle initially wanted to pay for the defender. When the fee is accepted by a club the nest step is to agree terms with the player, and once that’s done a medical is conducted by the buying club..
Douglas will need to fight it out next season with Steven Taylor, Fabricio Coloccini and Mike Williamson, for a berth in central defense, in the Newcastle first team.
It also means that Douglas can attend pre-season training at Benton next Thursday – again – assuming the news is true – and if Newcastle have agreed and manage to sign the player, born in Florianópolis, Brazil – there should be an announcement on the Newcastle web-site today.
Comments welcome.
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155 responses so far ↓
1 toonincheek // Jul 1, 2012 at 5:37 AM
TIOTE doffs his cap to WOR ED
2 Ben3arfa // Jul 1, 2012 at 5:44 AM
15m for both .. Sealed DEAL .. Come on LADS!
3 Newcastleforlife // Jul 1, 2012 at 5:46 AM
disappointed…. was expecting a double deal…. if it was for douglas alone lambias landed in netherlands, would have gone for France for Miang or Sakho or he may have reached Ajax for Alderweid…. All 5 million range better defenders
4 RonVanDam // Jul 1, 2012 at 5:47 AM
5 articles in 1hr. Ed you are on fire today
5 sevenho // Jul 1, 2012 at 5:48 AM
2 Brazilians in the squad (+ perchino)
6 montevideomag // Jul 1, 2012 at 5:51 AM
I think at times last year the Colos partnership with Williamson shows the need for Douglas. Although we kept a lot of clean sheets with these two, Mike was often beaten for pace and this was partly the reason for the spankings we took at Spurs. Douglas offers the same physical presence but quicker and more agile. A step forward if treu
7 Ben3arfa // Jul 1, 2012 at 5:54 AM
Sorry but there is NO WAY that Yanga M’Biwa and Sakho are in the 5m range .. Maybe Alderweild , but the previous two are worth nearer to the 10m mark .. Douglas is worth the same as them but since hes only got a year left on his contract we may be getting a real good deal here .. hes a monster of a player
8 davybtoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 6:02 AM
I’ve heard we hav both Douglas n de Jong in the bag
9 Grafton83 // Jul 1, 2012 at 6:04 AM
Agree with Monte, we needed to strengthen our CB pairing, I like Willo, he did a decent job last season but he is a bit slow at times. With Taylor back from injury that will also give us the depth we’ll need to compete in Europe. Just got to hope Douglas adapts to the prem quicker than Collo did.
10 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 6:14 AM
Don’t really care for Douglas; don’t like his attitude and I don’t think he is worth £ 5 mil. We most be desperate.
11 Swede // Jul 1, 2012 at 6:28 AM
I do believe both players are there for us to have in the start of next week. The problem is that Twente also feel cheated over money for Tiote. So there are a chance that extra money is due thanx to the fact that it is Newcastle asking for the player. Not to mentioon where Steve come from. WOuld you like to have the player signed for Sunderland or Boro. HWTL
12 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Jul 1, 2012 at 6:29 AM
The lad’s definetly got a temper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AwuazHJZC4&feature=related
To be fair, I’d probably have reacted the same way if the guy who faked being hit in the face suddenly got up like nothing happened.
13 Kc-Toon // Jul 1, 2012 at 6:39 AM
Someone mentioned earlier about the similarities between douglas and bramble. The only similarity i could assume would be the reckless challenges. I can remember matchdays, were bramble would storm across half the field to reach some poor fella and snap him, crowd loved it. Anyway, douglas is a hell of a lot more consistant than bramble, And confident and the ball. Mbiwa would be the most like to bramble, awful for giving away the ball and running around like a headless chicken, if a big team sign him, he’l soon be exposed as mistake prone imo
14 Grafton83 // Jul 1, 2012 at 6:47 AM
Oh Dear, I couldn’t help being reminded of Joey Barton whilst watching that sending off. I hope that’s a one off,
15 Newcastleforlife // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:08 AM
barnetta to Schalke……..
16 YankToonFan // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:14 AM
Will only believe it when it becomes official.
Good player, though.
17 Ben3arfa // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:17 AM
@Newcastleforlife
Barnetta is very very injury prone, dont think he would have contributed much if he arrived here
18 chris_g // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:19 AM
Wow. Some really impressive ‘in depth’ news reporting in that Express story. No wonder it took two people to write it all!
Sunday July 1,2012
By John Richardson and Colin Mafham
NEWCASTLE have agreed a £5m fee with FC Twente for Brazilian defender Douglas.
But Twente are holding out for £15m from the Magpies for striker Luuk De Jong.
The end
19 tarie4 // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:26 AM
jesperfuglsang
You are right, he isn’t worth 5 mill, more like 10 mill, luckily for use his contract his almost up. And I can assure U, Douglas will be our Chris samba, he is also a ball playing CB, and for his size, he is agile, athletic. He is definitely a massive upgrade to what we have. Have U ever seen him play more than 5 times??
Oh and he is nothing like bramble.
20 Lucasd10 // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:28 AM
Good signing got good height and better With ball than willo so good with colo at the back I think both de jong and douglas done but de jong to be released after douglas de jong away for a break now pherhaps done but not yet fully?
21 DarloGeordie // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:30 AM
Sat at Brisbane airport heading back to Newcastle and then I read this headline….
Very happy let’s keep these new players coming in and get the preparations sorted for the new season finished early so we can dick on the yids come the start o the season…
HWTL
22 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:32 AM
Tarie4
I am not talking about whether or not he is an upgrade for Willo but about the current going rate for players.
He has 1 year left of his contract and supposely he is worth 5 mil – Enrique was worth 6 mil and I rate much higher.
You need to look at supply and demand mate
there don’t seem to be much demand for Douglas at 5 mil mate.
I still say we are desperate and still don’t rate him that highly. There are better deals out there.
23 hdavid23 // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:41 AM
previous article said they wanted 16mill combined for him and de Jong, so they now only want 11mill for the latter compared to the 12.5 they originally wanted… our last bid was 10mill, so i really hope this means theyre close to an agreement
24 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:47 AM
Hdavid23
and anothet article said that they wanted £ 15 mil for de Jong; does that mean they only want 1 mil for Douglas?
I would say now we are talking
can’t see us paying 5 mil for him, but then again if we are desperate enough why not lol
Tarie seem to think he is worth twice as much; thank God he is not buying our players
25 tarie4 // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:50 AM
jesperfuglsang
“There are better deals out there”
Like??
carr recently said that, money is there for the right player, and if nufc dnt think its a good deal, they are willing to wait.
I guess its ur opinion. But I would trust someone who has watched him multiple times, and has been a scout for years and years.
26 SupaToonKid // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:51 AM
Looks a great signing, if true, for £5M. Douglas is a physical presence who could be threat in the opponents box as well as our own & looks very Chris Samba like i.e. strong, physical, good ball control, composed & reassured. One thing i do not know is how quick he is, has anybody seen him in a race with a CF, could he keep up?
27 SupaToonKid // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:55 AM
I think that Duncan Castles, who’s a top journo, has some inside knowlede on Hoilett as i can see us using Best as compensation for Junior. Though i thank Besty for his work Hoilett will really add some serious pace and skill to our attack also the lad can cross as well (which is definitely a bonus) also has super shot.
28 Partizan // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:59 AM
SupaToonKid // Jul 1, 2012 at 7:51 AM
Looks a great signing, if true, for £5M. Douglas is a physical presence who could be threat in the opponents box as well as our own & looks very Chris Samba like i.e. strong, physical, good ball control, composed & reassured. One thing i do not know is how quick he is, has anybody seen him in a race with a CF, could he keep up?
He has something even better than pace,its his positioning and response,,does Colo has pace?!..absolutely not.
29 Partizan // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:00 AM
have*
30 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:03 AM
Tarie4
I don’t trust anyone blindly and I don’t buy into the news circus mate.
As a Dutch player with 1 year left of his contract Douglas is not worth 5 mil mate. No one wants to pay that mate.
What is Simmo worth then mate – 7 mil?
I am taking a piss at you mate, cause I cannot follow your logic mate.
31 Sazzer // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:06 AM
Sounds good supatoonkid.
32 toonheroes // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:12 AM
Jasper
Just mate off will you and take your sarcasm with you
33 Partizan // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:15 AM
Bramble was a fast player but…no need to go further.
34 Ben3arfa // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:21 AM
hey by the way are there any quotes on the actual agreement?
35 rich_toonfan // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:22 AM
5million sounds about right.
He might only have on year on his deal but we got 7 for enrique
36 Korzic // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:22 AM
I hate Football Manager. Makes an armchair expert out of every man and his dog. Good thing that Graham Carr doesn’t use FM to do his scouting like half the posters here. I’d trust a Carr run scouting network over some chump on the internet.
37 sks_toon // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:24 AM
I am very happy if this is true that we got a CB, I was losing hope of signing a first team CB after we signed Good, but CB is our biggest need by far, glad we are getting it sorted. Now let’s try to pry De Jong and Debuchy away and I will be a very happy person. I really think that even if we bid £12 million for De Jong he would be worth it, Howay!
38 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:25 AM
The only one I can see running the story are the Daily and Sunday Express.
39 kjnewc16 // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:28 AM
Davybtoon your usually reliable and knowledgable where gave you heard that dejong and Douglas in bag?
40 davybtoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:28 AM
Douglas is a beast of a defender n he ain’t slow, if we get Douglas, de Jong, debuchy n hoilet I will b buzzing that is some quality players
41 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:29 AM
I think we only got close to the 6 mil mark for Enrique. And in my book much better than Douglas and EPL proven.
42 kjnewc16 // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:30 AM
Ben3arfa where have you heard its a sealed deal 15million for both or is it just what you want?
43 tarie4 // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:31 AM
jesperfuglsang
Ermmm I am sorry, but the club think 5 mill is a bargain, if they are willing to pay that and U dnt?? Carr has brought us some good players for very low prices, and o reckon he deserves my trust.
Logic?? Hahaha, have u ever seen Douglas play more than once?? Which defender shud we go for that’s worth 5 mill?? Since u a very logical, answer these questions mate.
44 hdavid23 // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:34 AM
wonder what the Ashley-hater neggers will say if we get Douglas, de Jong, Debuchy, Hoillett and maybe Anita…
45 davybtoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:35 AM
Jesper u can’t even compare Douglas n Jose they play to different positions, Douglas is an absolute bargain at 5mill
The way I see we hav got about 2.5m for Forster, 3mil for best, Simpson will go for around 4mill xisco n ranger will bring in another 2mil that practically pays for Luuk de Jong so the only money we would b spending is on good, Douglas, debuchy, hoillet n a few young players will come like that lad from cov
46 Ben3arfa // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:37 AM
kjnewc16
I’m wanting to know, coz at the moment its still a report but everyone is running wild with it , agreeing the fee for douglas that is ..
47 davybtoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:39 AM
Lads there was a so called itk on twitter on Friday claiming we had sealed 16mil double deal for de Jong n Douglas n then today the mirror claims it will take 16mill for us to get both do there could b some truth in it, n Courtney the north east journo on talksport reckons de Jong, Douglas n debuchy will all sign
48 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:41 AM
Tarie4
It is not the 5 mil that bothers me but the fact that he has only one year left of his contract and you can get him for free next summer.
And I don’t rate him as high as the others we have been linked with. For all I know it is just media speculation.
Have you heard NUFC come out an say we are looking to buy Douglas?
I do wonder why no one else seem to think 5 mil for Douglas would be a good deal – other football clubs that is
49 Sazzer // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:43 AM
Forster and Best pays for Douglas.
Simpson, Xisco, Ranger – Debuchy
Carroll – Cisse, De Jong, and Hoilett
50 hdavid23 // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:44 AM
Sazzer, actually Carroll pays for Cisse, De Jong, Hoillett, Debuchy, and Douglas…
think it was a good deal selling him? 
51 keeping the faith // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:45 AM
I cannot believe some fans are still disputing players we are going after. The majority of our most recent signings have turned out to be real coups and I have every faith that we are signing Douglas because he’s good enough and at the right money. Surely fans should be able to trust our scouting system now
52 davybtoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:46 AM
Nufc do not comment on any player until they’ve signed
Jesper I really question if u hav seen Douglas play yes he’s a bit of a cracker but he is quality he is what we need I big physical defender who is also good on the ball, players like vertoghen are similar to colo playing style
53 davybtoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:48 AM
There must b something in the hoilet stuff that journo has no connection to Nufc yet claims we will sign him like someone said he must hav good info to come out with that
54 2_goal_tino // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:51 AM
@ 48 – “For all I know it is just media speculation.
Have you heard NUFC come out an say we are looking to buy Douglas?”
What is not media speculation is that we have two very high up officials in Holland negotiating with Twente! That is undeniable and instantly gives any stories re. Twente players more credibility.
Also,
http://thepathismadebywalking.wordpress.com/scouting-reports/douglas/
Quoted as saying his best friend in football is Luuk De Jong and we all know that Pards likes getting players who are close with one another. De Jong, Douglas, Hoillet, and Debuchy would be absolute dreamland!
55 tarie4 // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:51 AM
jesperfuglsang
Haha ok mate, lets agree to disagree, because, with ur logic, Jose was not worth 6 mill coz no other club came for him besides Liverpool
Douglas has been linked with numerous clubs, maybe we have stolen the march on other teams, where have I heard that before
with ur logic, kangwa for man u wasn’t worth 16 whatever the paid for him, coz no other clubs were in for him at that price!!
But hey, no use arguing here. Have a good day sir
56 Indian Magpie // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:52 AM
What is this abt hoilett joining NUFC
57 davybtoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:54 AM
Indian some journo on twitter claims hoilet will join us
58 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:54 AM
Tarie4
I don’t think that was my point but hi…lets agree to disagree as you so well put it….
…and lets see if Douglas does come here or not or whether an other club wants to pay 5 mil for him
59 davybtoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:56 AM
I think pards will want as many as he can in this week it jus gives all the players at training a huge lift b4 the season even starts, plus twente are in Europa league this week which why we hav acted now don’t want them cup tied
60 Spuggy // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:56 AM
Don’t forget Smith’s wages which will play a significant part in bring players in.
61 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:57 AM
I’m trying not to believe anything until its official but de jong, hoilett, Douglas would be excellent additions. Plus debuchy and Anita and we’d be set for a serious champions league push. fingers crossed!
62 tarie4 // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:58 AM
davybtoon
Aye, I have asked him on numerous occasions this morning with no reply. I think he hasn’t seen him. He has composure on the ball like collo, and his positioning is very good. Hey carr rates him enough to cough up 5 mill. So I am happy.
On hoilett
I would love him here, just hope his wage demands aren’t that high. Heard that Swansea lad, ermmm forgot his name, demanded 75k from Liverpool, and BR refused and spurs are willing to meet that. 75k? Hope hoilett has lesser demands than that haha
63 Indian Magpie // Jul 1, 2012 at 8:59 AM
davy,
you believe thoe rumors abt hoilett
64 Davey_H // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Wow I have just wated the video of him been sent off, he looked aggreaved.
But how about this video to show what he can do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoFeki9CRQM&feature=related
He look awesome in the air.
65 davybtoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:02 AM
Why really don’t see a problem with wages yea we will lose players were after bcoz of wage demands but come ppl we still pay top wages 70k aweek if the player is right tiote n colo already supposed to b on this
66 Spuggy // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:06 AM
Douglas and Debuchy would improve our team massively in terms of a more solid defense and a goal threat from defense.
67 davybtoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:06 AM
Indian don’t kno last I heard he had agreed to move to the German club but that was also only reports nothing official, we could very well sign him u jus never kno with Nufc these days we don’t comment on deals till there done
But he is defo a player pardew would love to have
68 Spuggy // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:07 AM
I still can’t believe that we will spend 10m+ on another top quality striker in De Jong. Smoke and mirrors?
Fingers crossed and hope I’m wrong but Cisse was Carroll’s true replacement and he cost the same. I’d assumed we’d bring in 3-4m replacement for Best.
69 davybtoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Don’t want to get carried away but a team of
Krul
Debuchy Douglas colo santon
Tiote cabaye
Hba de Jong hoillet
Cisse
We would b not only top 4 contenders but possible title contenders lol
70 Spuggy // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM
9 goals and 5 assists from Douglas and Debuchy last season
71 Spuggy // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:12 AM
I still think Debuchy signing is the most important one this window. Can see him and Arfa forming a lethal partnership down that right flank.
72 grumpy_old_sod // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:12 AM
Until players are signed sealed & delivered, they are not nufc players.
There’s a lot of the usual guessing by the press.
I hope we do get a central defender and a right back in first, in my opinion they are the areas that need strengthened first.
Wouldn’t mind hoilet on a free, he would strengthen the squad.
73 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:13 AM
Yes davyb and Tarie4
I have seen Douglas play, but maybe not 5 times. Is that a requirement to disagree with you to?
I saw him on ocations last year and I saw him get send off against Alkmaar and receive a 6 match day ban.
He is good for a someone playing in Holland and he is big and strong. Not so fast though.
But I don’t think he is worth 5 mil whether or not he has 1 year left of his contract.
Rumors has it that Spurs didn’t rate Vertonghen at 8.5 mil either. It seems the Dutch teams just want a piece of the cake. Maybe that is fair.
Still think there are better deals out there. Simon Kjær would be a better buy for that kind of money and scores more goals.
Pardew wants a goalscoring defender. I don’t think Douglas have scored 10 goals since he signed for Twente.
74 Beattie25 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:14 AM
I shall be the voice of reason for you over excited toon fans.
Arrergggghhhhh OMG we are going to sign loads of players. Fcuk being the voice of reason I’m getting carried away. If this happens and rumours are to be believed then my wrist is going to be so swollen from the happy slapping I’m going to give my penis.
We would not only have a starting 11 to rival any other team in the league but a bench that would be worthy of a top 4 club. Obviously it’s going to be a 0.000000000000000001% chance of it actually happening but my word it’s good to dream.
75 grumpy_old_sod // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Davybtoon
No need for a lol, with those players I honestly think we could challenge the top 4.
76 Nick 69 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:22 AM
jesperfuglsang – Simon Kjaer would be better and scores more goals?? he’s scored 1 goal in 57 apps since 2010 so how do you work that out?
77 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:25 AM
So if Douglas is 5mill, surely Hoilett would cost about the same in compo maybe a little less so say 4mill, debuchy 6mill, anita 6mill, and de jong 11mill.
Total Spend 32mill. Seems unlikely, but if we get 2mill for Forster, 3mill for Simo and 3mill for Best. 24mill does sound feasible. Plus the freed up wages will help.
78 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Well he scores a lot for the National team and he use to score for Palermo
al least I think I remember he did
79 Indian Magpie // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Did Mclaren say, Dog lous is the best defender in holland, does it mean he is better than vertonghen and alderweireld
80 rich_toonfan // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:29 AM
I think Douglas is value at 5 million.
Just because he is in his last year of his contract doesn’t mean you could get him for 2/3 million.
If we wait until the end of the window we might get him for 4 as they become desperate to sell but then other teams might come in for him.
If the club have scouted him and believe he should be added to the squad that is good enough for me. They haven’t got much wrong the past 2 years.
If you think nasri was in the last year of his contract and went for 25million and a similar figure is being quoted for van persie. Yes I know they were premier league proven but douglas is a proven player in holland and twente wont want to lose him for next to nothing…they may as well get another season out of him instead of lose him for 2/3 million only.
81 rich_toonfan // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:30 AM
@indian
yeh mcclaren did say that.
but i would take it with a pinch of salt….he will have been trying to drive his price up with a comment like that and possibly start a bidding war.
also managers always say their own players are the best.
82 Indian Magpie // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:31 AM
dog lous is 5 mil coz 20 have an option of 1 more year, hoilett is totally out of contract
83 Sazzer // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:32 AM
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20120701/amalfitano-officially-a-magpie_2281670_2827417?
Not most reliable source but the latest.
http://www.kenyan-post.com/2012/07/newcastle-utds-12m-bid-for-striker.html?
84 papattack // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:33 AM
i have to say i dont really know much about him but i’m definately glad about this news because four centre backs is a must for a top team. i dont like us relying on players who “can” play at centre back to play, its much better to have players playing in thier recognised position.
i definately think him and colo could form a decent partnership though. lets hope it happens along with debuchy and de jong!
85 rich_toonfan // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:34 AM
@jesper
kjaer scored one goal for denmark under 19′s and nothing in other levels, he got 5 in 62 for palermo.
douglas has 9 in 115 for twente.
would agree neither re prolific but both the same ratio.
86 Nick 69 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:34 AM
jesperfuglsang – digging yourself a deeper hole because he has never even scored for the national team, and he only scored 5 goals in 62 games for Palermo, your clearly just making things up haha
87 Indian Magpie // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:35 AM
when people say take it with a pinch of salt, does it mean its probably false or definitely false
88 Beattie25 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:36 AM
If we sell Best and Simmo for 7 million we. Ould get Douglas, Debuchy, Anita, de Jong and hoillet for about 25 million meaning a spend of 18 million. That isn’t much to turn our club into a CL threat but is it plausible?
With the increase in income from tv rights, sponsorship with virgin and puma, wages freed up by departing players and money coming in from tickets and merchandise, erm a self sufficient club out size could afford 18 million in the market. If rumours are to be believed we had 20 million to spend on strengthening which means that selling best and simmo will add to that amount so spending 25 million doesn’t seem so abstract.
But this is not the old nufc where we expect to spend that amount. We always throw caution to the wind and live in reality but who knows?! Maybe this is our time.
89 rich_toonfan // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:36 AM
@indian
the argument about douglas price is not about whether he has a year left or not…we all agree on that.
its about whether 5 million is good value for a player with one year left. I think it is….whats your opinion?
90 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Just watched that video, that wasn’t even a sending off, thats why Douglas was so angry. Saw a few Cattermole comments on there too, Douglas and Tiote will smash him into a 1000 pieces.
91 rich_toonfan // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:39 AM
@indian
pinch of salt means just almost ignore it…its a statement which is obvious but not necessarily true or false.
for example….pardew might say cabaye is the best midfielder….you would expect him to say that as it is his player but it could be argued to be true but others would say false.
92 AussieToon // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:39 AM
Douglas’ value is that of around the 8 to 10 million in my opinion, the way the market is today. To get him at 5 million is a bargain and improves an area we needed to desperately. Going into games with Williamson cost us a heap. Now we have Douglas first, Taylor second and Williamson a long distance third. Getting Good in to after a couple of seasons developing replace him will be beneficial also for a small fee.
This is a good signing people. In fact a great signing and solves a massive issue. We have just improved a heap!
93 Nick 69 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:39 AM
Beattie – dont think we’d get 7million for Simpson and Best, Simpson isnt worth £4mill with 1 year left on his contract. And we’d definitely be looking at more than £25million for De Jong, Anita, Debuchy, Hoilett and Douglas. It will cost £15-16million for De Jong and Douglas. £6mill for Debuchy, probs about £6mill for Anita then maybe £4million + for Hoilett in compo so your lookin atprobably £34mill ish
94 Boys in Black and White // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:41 AM
Maybe we should go back in for Ola Toivonen of PSV if we are not going to get Luuk de Jong. Ola is only worth about 5-8m. Would be a bargain really.
95 Indian Magpie // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:41 AM
Rich,
depends on your demand, ozil went for abt 10.5, pienar abt 3, krancjaar 3.
we need a CD, if NUFC have identified him as a target then it shd not be in the reckoning whether he is in the last year or not. i think
96 JAMSHA // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:42 AM
Its same like the arfa saga now .wait untill monday an the deal will be seald
.
97 hotdog // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:42 AM
Of all the players we have been linked with Hoilett is the one that excites me the most. We do need a CB but if we get De Jong, where does he fit in or will he start on bench, cisse is a certain starter.
98 rich_toonfan // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM
@beattie
I agree…we could get those players for that sort of money…possibly a little more, maybe closer to 30 though.
I just think the club hasn’t got a transfer budget as such. They just look at what they need and buy it if available.
If you think we bring in 6 players this summer we might only sign 1 or 2 next summer. I think the club has longer term planning that one season…
I can see ashley thinking we have 100 million to spend over next 5 years….not 20 million a year.
99 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:44 AM
5mill for any quality centre back is good value, considering the likes of Mbwia, Sakho, Tasci, Vertonghen etc would all be around 8-10mill. We scout our players properly thesedays, unlike Arsenal who got Mertesacker and Squillaci haha
If we get De Jong for the price they paid for Giroud, i think that too represents us being better at getting a good deal.
100 hdavid23 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:45 AM
@hotdog
Spain play with 10 defenders, maybe we’ll try playing with 10 strikers/attacking players
101 tarie4 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:45 AM
Nick 69 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:34 AM
Haha beat me to it. He is talks out of his a**** haha
And I doubt he has seen Douglas play.
102 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:46 AM
Rich
I don’t know if your last comment was directed at me, but I don’t think anyone is questioning whether or not Carr should scout him.
We have lots of different defenders this year most better than Douglas in my book maybe even in Carr’s bookm as well
But I still won’t pay 5 mil for Douglas and the question remains whether or not NUFC will?
103 hotdog // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM
hdavid23 – thats my point really AP will go with two attackers at home but away from home 5 in midfield me thinks but Best & Lovenkrands are away so we do need extra cover up there, will he be ok with bench duty though?
104 HarryHarrison // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM
Interesting to read Douglas’ last bust up was with Toivonen, apparent clash there already so of Douglas comes I don’t think Toivonen will, also I can’t help but think Llambias and co have gone out to Holland tried to get De Jong, failed and switched there efforts to Douglas, If something was to be agreed on our main priority(which is De Jong) then we’d get that sorted first before Douglas, but as we’re only hearing stories of a fee for Douglas being agreed I see it as we’ve failed in our attempts for De Jong!
105 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:49 AM
Pards keeps saying they will get value for money, De Jong is 21 and rated at 11-12mill, Toivonnen 26 next week and probably 6-7mill. De Jong is a better all round player. Both would be good signings, but De Jong for that price is the better deal, especially in the long term, i don’t Toivonnen will improve much whereas De Jong definately will.
106 rich_toonfan // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:49 AM
@hotdog
I think de jong will give us options…he can play striker or attacking midfield (he just started being an out and out striker this season according to steve mcclaren)….He would rotate in games with cisse and Ba (they cant play all games, and there may be time when one of them is out of form)
Also competition drives players to work harder and improve so it helps that way.
If you look at man utd they have berbatov, hernandez, rooney and welbeck.
man city have dzeko, aguero, ballotelli and tevez
those two sides were streets ahead of the others this year and options upfront really helped that. It helps being able to rest players and having a lot of options….4-3-3 might work a lot of the time but sometimes we might go 2 up top…all the best managers know you need to mix things up.
@indian
I agree that he would be good value….and as i have said before a player has 2 values…..his value to the selling club and is value to the buying club. Douglas is worth more to us as he would be a starter than he would be to man city where he would be a bench warmer.
107 colwell // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:50 AM
I can’t see Douglas getting ahead of Saylor. Saylor is just as good as Colo, he scores more and is better in the air but not as good with his feet.
108 Sazzer // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:50 AM
If Twente sell Douglas and De Jong to us then they have sold more or less their three best players. Since Ola John already went to Benfica.
Like we would lose Ben-arfa, Cisse and Colo.
109 tarie4 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:51 AM
Indian Magpie
Pinaar had 6 months left as opposed to a year, and he was like 28 yrs old though, Douglas is 24 and his better years are ahead, but I agree with U. It depends on your demand. What are ur thuts on him, U seen him play before?
110 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:52 AM
@Harry
Failed possibly, but haggling over the fee seems more likely. July is birthday month, two or three quality signings is the only present i want!!
111 rich_toonfan // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:53 AM
@jesper
it was just a general comment.
I can’t really comment on carrs targets…for all I know he might rate Douglas as the best CB available. Vertongen was set on spurs and even if that changes maybe the club wont spend 10 million on a CB.
I don’t know the ins and outs of our transfer policy so not sure who is our number one target. Im sure carr has identified better players…..
we all can say a better CB that douglas would be Thiago Silva from A.C milan….it doesn’t mean he is available to us.
Maybe douglas is the best target that we can get.
112 Beattie25 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:53 AM
You guys and your fairy tails!
Anyway have we actually spent the Carroll money yet??
113 hdavid23 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:55 AM
btw it seems our offer is about one million pounds short of what Twente want for de Jong, so…
Mike, if you read this, i for one am willing to give in 20 pounds to the offer, and i’m quite sure we can get another 50.000 toon fans doing it as well, so lets do this deal, and dont go for Toivonen
114 Beattie25 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:55 AM
You guys and your fairy tales!
Anyway have we actually spent the Carroll money yet??
115 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:55 AM
Think one things for sure, Ed’s going to need to expand the size of the banner/header for next season!
116 tarie4 // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:55 AM
jesperfuglsang
“We have lots of different defenders this year most better than Douglas in my book maybe even in Carr’s bookm as well”
Could U do us the honour of naming those defenders better than Douglas please?
117 rich_toonfan // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:55 AM
@colwell
steven taylors has made 27, 21, 14, 14 league appearances over the last 4 seasons.
He may well be better than douglas but with his injury record we need a good CB as third choice.
118 hotdog // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:56 AM
RICH – Agreed but out of those names i would say dzeko and berbatov aint happy and want away and thats the difficulty keeping everybody. With euro footy AP should be able to rotate though. Cant wait to see Iniesta again tonight, how good is he?????
119 Indian Magpie // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM
Tarie4
No never seen him play. but from what i have heard on here looks a bit like lucio
120 steve // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:59 AM
I might be going mental here but why are people complaining about spending 5m on a proven CB, an area we are drastically thin. When you think about it 5m in today’s market is nothing and it’s not like its coming out of our pockets
I’ll put it this way who would we rather see next season when Taylor is injured for half a season, Williamson or Douglas. No Brainer really…
121 rich_toonfan // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:59 AM
@hotdog….yeh they aren’t happy but they are 4th choice.
With us de jong would be third choice but as he can play attacking mid and ba did a job on the left there is no reason all 3 couldn’t be on the pitch at once…although that would be unlikely.
fortunately for us our 4th choice striker is shola who will understand he isn’t as good as the other 3 and try to make an impact from the bench.
also we need a good striker for when Ba and Cisse go to the ACON.
122 HarryHarrison // Jul 1, 2012 at 9:59 AM
Also…anyone agree with this…If we were in for Junior Hoilett surely we would use Best as the compensation, IF money is changing hands for Best then I’d predict Hoilett won’t be arriving at St James’ this summer!
123 Levi // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:01 AM
it must be true cause it says he is in our 1st team squad on wiki lol number 21. also got de jong in the bag according to wiki so you can stop writing on them 2 lol. honestly though im glad it looks like we could get this guy but if we got quoted 16 million for them both i would like to see de jong come in cos that would just be 11 mil. but having said that i havnt given up hope cause the douglas deal would be 5 million cash done and dusted but maybe the luuk deal would be a bit more complicated i.e selling on fee and 1st team appearances maybe?
124 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Plus with Douglas coming in there isn’t that extra pressure to play Saylor when fit in nearly every game. If the deal does happen, thats a nice headache for Pardew, think Saylor and Colo would start the season with Douglas eased in to adapt to the English style. There is a very slight chance all 3 could start as a back 3 with Debuchy and Santon as wing back and Tiote in front of them.
125 lewytoon // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:03 AM
“It is with some regret we are losing Tiote, he is a physical player and one of Europe’s top players.” ”But as a player he’s had the chance to go to the United Kingdom.”
“And once there is interest from a club, there is nothing more you can do.”
Quotes fromvtwente president after we signed tiote! Let de Jong leave if he’s interested!!
126 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Whoever updated our squad on wiki, forgot Anita, Hoilett and Debuchy! and i thought everything on there was the truth!
127 Boys in Black and White // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Hey whats the story with Curtis Good? Is he still going to join us?
128 HarryHarrison // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:04 AM
IF we wrap up the sale of Best to Blackburn, guessing it would be paid partly in installments, we should forward these payments and any cash we receive for Best onto Twente fo De Jong, so say we’re wiling to pay 12M, add the Best cash on and we’ll get our man!! Simple LOL ;-D
129 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Awesome we got douglas
this is great nobody is really excited 
130 tarie4 // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Indian Magpie
I have a few times, mostly Europa league, and he is quite composed on the ball, him and collo, or Taylor and him, collo and Taylor, will give us some nice options with willo to cover, as bad as pple say willo is, I believe that if he does a perch. Ie not a certain starter but a stop gap, he will be a valuable member of the team, hope we also snap up Good. We would be well stocked in the CB department imo:
Collo
Saylor
Douglas
Willo
Perch
Good.
What are thoughts?
131 hotdog // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:05 AM
RICH – I was gonna say is the ACON not every two years bloody hell it will be in Jan 2013.
132 colwell // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:06 AM
Saylor is awesome but yeah he does get injured alot. I would 100 % sign up Douglas can’t let Willo near the 1st team again unless its to a small team from Finland etc.
133 2_goal_tino // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:08 AM
All we know for certain is that we’re interested in De Jong and Douglas. The figures are pure speculation. I’ve seen it reported that we’ve bid 8, 10 and 12 million and that Twente are holding out for 12, 15 and 16 million depending on which source you read. Now I’ve just read that Borussia Mondengladbach (or however they’re spelt) think they’re on the verge of the De Jong signature for 9 million + performance add-ons.
134 tarie4 // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:10 AM
in other news, see Wilshire is going to miss the start of the season again, will he ever recover from these injuries. Talented boy, hope he recovers.
135 Indian Magpie // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Tarie 4
I agree with you, on Curtis though i think he will be a reserve player this year
136 Beattie25 // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:13 AM
I must agree with Steve. Why on earth do people say ‘Douglas isn’t worth 5 million!’ or ‘why are we spending 10 million on a CF?’.
I mean for fcuk sake we got hammered of Leyton Orient 3 years ago and we all thought we were heading to league 2. Get a grip and enjoy it. Nobody on this blog has a better knoll ledge of football than the management staff of nufc so if they thinks these guys are worth it I’m all for it. 99% of us thought we’d never spend another penny ever again on transfers and all some of you can do Is moan about it.
I understand the need to put things in perspective and assume of we spend X then Y might not come but don’t presume to know anything about our club. No of us are itk (apart from transfer sage) and I for one am just happy to read we could be signi g 5 quality players that in my dreams give us the two things we all want, good football and a bit of success.
If Douglas turns out to be the next Ferdinand and De Jong the next Van Persie would you all be complaining??
In footballing terms 5-10 million is cheap. Look at Liverpool as an example. Look at Jay Rodriguez who signed for Southampton for 7 million and for an extra 3-4 you can get De Jong.
It was the same last year with some of you. ‘don’t think we should buy Ben Arfa’ ‘who’s this Cabaye? Another cheap import’ ‘santon is not going to replace Enrique’.
C’mon guys we finished 5th, narrowly missed 4th and perhaps for the first time in 5-6 years have an exciting summer where players come in and hardly anyone leaves but you won’t let us enjoy our dreams whilst the nightmares devour you.
137 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:13 AM
George McCartney signs for West Ham, Big Sam is going to struggle keeping those misfits in the league.
138 JAMSHA // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:14 AM
http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-league/news/detail/item822498/McClaren-warns-Newcastle-off-de-Jong/
139 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:16 AM
agreed Beattie…
Basically armchair moronic experts…… in my view….
in Carr we trust, I feel that ANY signing we get its a blessing…
140 Indian Magpie // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Beattie 25,
Dont want to step on toes here but you got the spelling of F*** wrong
141 tarie4 // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:19 AM
Beattie25 // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Well said sir, well said
142 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Beattie, agree with that.
We don’t overspend on players anymore, every signing is value for money, and yes i include Obertan in that too!
143 SupaToonKid // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Nobodies mentioned that Romain Amalfitano has officially signed for us today and nufc.co.uk say they will give us a little update on him on Monday, probably what number he will be given etc.
I’m hopeful we can get deals done for Debuchy, Douglas & Luuk de Jong as they are all very necessary signings to upgrade the squad even more. Anita & Hoilett would be bonus signings really as i’m sure we’ll try get deals done for Good & Gael Bigirimana. If we sign Bigirimana i don’t think we’ll sign Anita but simpley promote Abeid or Gosling to Guthrie’s position last season.
Ins: Debuchy, Good, Douglas, Hoilett, Luuk de Jong
Bigirimana or/& Anita
Outs: Simpson, Best, Ranger, Xisco (please Lord have Mercy) & Forster
Oh hopefully Tav signs a new deal as well but if not Clyne wouldn’t be a half bad replacement.
144 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Tarie4
You need to stop this about having to name players or that one have to have seen Douglas for 5 games to have an opinion
We have even had polls on this blog about whom would be the better signing and Douglas never came out on top.
I don’t rate him at 5 mil mate and I think he looses his head ones too often and a don’t like his attitude.
I don’t signing him, but he is free next summer so I would wait. Still don’t think any other club are going to pay 5 mil. for him. We just have to wait and see
145 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM
good point on Tav, hope he signs a new deal. I think we are stuck with Ranger, but Sheff Weds may at least take him on loan again until Jan.
As come African Nations time, we’ll need 3 strikers, so in theory that’s hopefully De Jong, Shola and at the moment Ranger unless i’m forgetting someone.
146 jesperfuglsang // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:28 AM
* should have said don’t mind signing him…
147 geordie157 // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:28 AM
That raises a question, what would people prefer, as Xisco is likely not to move on again. Would you prefer him still to be loaned out, or become effectively a 6th choice striker and provide cover for when Ba and Cisse jet off to Africa again?
148 HarryHarrison // Jul 1, 2012 at 10:41 AM
http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/584878901?-11058
149 Rotonda heights // Jul 1, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Maybe we should come at this from a different angle. Twente have arguably the best scouting set up around. It would be interesting to know who they are scouting to replace De Jong and try and usurp them. Getting a bit sick of Twente ratcheting up the prices as revenge for Tiote.
150 DraperNUFC10 // Jul 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM
Follow me on twitter @Daniel_Draper95 and I’ll follow back
HWTL!
151 Munster Mag // Jul 1, 2012 at 1:49 PM
I’m delighted with this. Unless a guy is out of contract, you can expect to pay 4million upwards for quality, and we badly need some height and power at the back, as well as a threat from corners etc. Beattie, i dont think Santon has fully replaved Enrique yet, in terms of quality. Another season needed. I think i’d prefer hom at RB, but am not certain if he has played there a lot or not. He is still too hesitant in the tackle IMO.
152 joppadoni // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:04 AM
ive just about gave up commenting on this site due to the name changing cock knockers who post here these days. i have to say this bloke is big but ive seen nothing to impress me. although i doubt he will get trouble from willo.. he will struggle to keep taylor on the bench
153 Owldman // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:53 PM
If we do sign Douglas ,there may be a slight problem. When ever i watched him on ESPN last season he appeared to favour left side which is where Collo plays,any comments boys?
154 Owldman // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Does Xcisco have to report for pre-season training ? or is he still on loan
155 Owldman // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:07 PM
Has Douglas ever played for Brasil he his due to become a Dutch Citizen in August so that he can qualify to play for Holland.
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