Magpies’ Final £10M Offer For De Jong – To Look Elsewhere?


The Evening Chronicle are reporting today that sources in Holland are saying that Newcastle have made their final offer for Dutch international striker Luuk de Jong.

Luuk de Jong – are Newcastle ready to walk away?

Newcastle have made what amounts to a take it or leave it offer, and apparently it’s an increase on the £8M initial bid.

But from all accounts it seems the Dutch club will leave it, as FC  Twente President Joop Munsterman told the Dutch media:

“The offer was not serious. We have a different price in our minds.”

And the Chronicle is further reporting the deal is  separate from  Newcastle’s bid for Brazilian center-back Douglas, with Newcastle already placing a £5M bid for the 6’4″ defender.

Newcastle’s offer is thought to be in the region of  £10M for de Jong,  and Newcastle will now wait for FC Twente’s official response to their improved offer.

One of the things we were taught in our IBM Consulting classes on negotiations, is there are always two things that are really important:

  • Never get emotionally attached to a deal
  • Always be willing to walk away from any deal

And with the business backgrounds of Mike Ashley and Derek LLambias, we know they are very aware of those two tenets,  and it could be they are getting ready to walk away from the table for Luuk de Jong.

We should know the outcome of this today, but if Newcastle do walk away,  there are two 19 year-old strikers, Swedish Striker John Guidetti  who is on Manchester City’s books, and Dutch youngster Luc Castaignos, who is at Inter-Milan.

Either of those two 19 year-olds would fit in at Newcastle very nicely, and be given time to develop.

But we are still hoping Newcastle can get Luuk de Jong in.

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47 comments so far

  • HullMag6

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #1

    Hmmm, a specific player may or may not sign. Well fair enough as long as the squad is strengthened in all areas before the serious business of the season starts.

    Hope all this 1st business has stopped as its childish and banal.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #2

    Obviously not a definite bit of news, but if true, then good. I really am proud at the way we conduct ourselves these days and if £10m is our valuation, we should not be held to ransom. He may well turn out to be a world beater, valued at ridiculous amounts in the future, but that is only guesswork and despite some people opinions, we do not have a never ending pit of funds available.

    Hopefully, this saga will be tied up one way or another soon. Don’t want to be messed about all summer and not have time to activate plan b or c, d, e – z if needed

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #3

    HullMag…..I doubt the 1st business will ever completely stop. It has however been reduced significantly 🙂

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  • Boys in Black and White

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #4

    Yea i agree with all this.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #5

    About time. Getting sick and tired of this luuk De Jong saga..

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  • AK Malaysia

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #6

    Agreed.. 10 mil pound bid for De Jong.. Take it or leave it… For me if both Douglas & De Jong15 mil pounds .. superb.. if not, too bad… It’s not the end of the world…. Howay!

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  • Rozzy

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #7

    I think an extra £2m will do it (£12m)

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #8

    Now,

    There was an article few minutes ago,

    De jong’s decison in 24 Hrs, now this, tell me what 2 believe

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  • markmac

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #9

    @7 maybe but i think the point is that we wont be held to ransome,

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #10

    Indian….Don’t believe any of it until it’s official. This is just circulating news being reported to us by a fellow magpie for our enjoyment (or despair) and to spark some debate.

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  • jakesome

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #11

    rable rable

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  • Dre4mbo4t

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #12

    I really want luuk de Jong, but this deal replicates when we nearly got modric untill I woke up in the morning and the rat faced f#cker had signed for spurs, I was translating Croatian articles the lot, much like I have been with this de Jong business. If we don’t sign him though I’d go after van wolfswinkle beings sporting missed out on CL.

    TBH, I don’t think the striker market ATM represents value for money. We got the best deal for years with Papisto, obviously Demba, dembas being flawed by release clause etc, and I’d say jelavic to everton was excellent value for money.

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  • wynbae

    Jul 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #13

    15 Mill the pair, and those Dutchies can hoy in a schmoke ana pancake

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  • wynbae

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #14

    maybe a couple of extra pancakes for Mike, to sweeten the deal

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  • pieceofpapiss

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #15

    Indin Magpie @8

    Theres your decision. We’ve made an offer, the highest we are willing to go, they want more. End of.

    Pretty simple really.

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  • Beattie25

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #16

    Simple really

    Munchiebackpack will offer 9 million with add Ons. But that is a lot of ifs and buts, a lottery of sorts. If we finish 4th, if we qualify for CL, if he scores 10 goals etc…

    Nufc will offer 10 million cash up front. No questions, no ifs, no nonsense.

    I think it’ll be accepted

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #17

    a flapjack und a shigarette?

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  • walton1984

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #18

    If we could push Best and Forster sales through that would give us extra 4m plus the 60k a week extra we are saying from not having Smith a extra 2m would be possible to defo get both players

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #19

    on SS: According to reports in Italy, Arsenal have rejected an offer of €10million (£8m) from Juventus for captain Robin van Persie.

    Really? They didn’t accept £8m? Seems Juventus and Newcastle share more than strip colours 🙂

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #20

    When Money is offered up front,

    A club can get higher amount of interest, assuming its not a current a/c, you can immediately spend it as you like.

    So 10 million with lets say 3-4 % rate is as good as 11-12 mill by the time final installment is made if that route were taken

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  • Beattie25

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #21

    Wait

    Doesn’t van Persie have a release clause for 8 million??

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  • Tom4Nufc

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #22

    Haha Beattie25… That’s good work mate! 🙂

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #23

    Beattie….He’s great, but he wasn’t nice to wor tim, so he can do one 🙂

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  • wynbae

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #24

    a crepe and a de jong

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #25

    wynbae….Bravo, bloomin’ bravo!

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  • wynbae

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #26

    🙂
    My winkie is glowing!

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  • terencelim

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #27

    Don’t believe anything until it’s on official. So far we only have one confirmed deal and that is freebie Amalfitano. Curtis, Douglas, Debuchy, Vernun and De Jong all not confirmed.

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  • Jamesthefirst

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #28

    Hoping Llambias can have a quiet word with his Agent and convince De Jong to hand in a transfer request. Then the club will be forced to accept our offer.

    The player wants to come in, so the club must persist in making it happen. Has the potential to be a top class striker.

    We all know an extra £2 million will seal it. But then the club gets a reputation for paying whatever fee the other club demands – puts us in a sticky situation for future transfers.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #29

    James…Spot on. We can’t go, “it’s only an extra £1 or 2m”. We’ve built ourselves a reputation, let’s not open up the gates of the Shephard era again. “Oh it’s Newcastle on the phone, let’s add an extra £5m to our valuation”.

    We may miss out on some bloody good talent, but we will still be here in the future and from the looks of it, we’ll have a brilliant team of players playing for the club, not only their pay cheque.

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  • Troleibusiukas_LTU

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #30

    Jamesthefirst,

    totally agreewith you.

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  • walton1984

    Jul 2, 2012 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #31

    agreed i think the next thing that could happen could be a transfer Request but i think by the end of tomorrow(i Hope) we will know what is happening will De Jong & Douglas coz DL & Co will have been in holland for almost a week

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  • Jamesthefirst

    Jul 2, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #32

    There is more at stake than an extra £2 million, or having De Jong here. The most important thing is the club’s reputation. The media and other clubs all now praise our dealings in the transfer market and even say we are a blueprint on how a club should be run financially.

    De Jong wants to come here (allegedly has told Tim Kruhl)
    His Agent wants him to come here.
    The club wants him here.

    But if FC Twente won’t accept £10 million in cash, then walk away.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jul 2, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #33

    James The First….The voice of reason! Hallelujah.

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  • rwpoynter

    Jul 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #34

    Ashley and Llambias for all their critics, are right in not allowing us to be fleeced for any player. Today , if he is to be believed, Mario Balotelli’s agent is telling the world he is worth £200 million! This is after a good Euro 2012, preceded by a pretty disastrous season at Man City. Talented but capricious, always likely to be a long term liability. If he is worth that, what are the likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Ozil worth? Far better, far more talented and far more disciplined. The problem is these parasites called agents. Why don’t the clubs simply decide to only deal with the players and their clubs?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 2, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #35

    Agree. Good way to do business. It’s not Championship Manager here, £2M is a lot of money and if a club is known to be a soft touch then that £2M becomes a lot more when you add up the other inflated prices.

    There’s no guarantee that this lad would do the job, so set your valuation and if you don’t get him, move on…they’ll soon be back begging us to take him if they don’t get their asking price…

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  • Phil K

    Jul 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #36

    For once, we have a good squad, even if Ba leaves.
    Some players like Marveaux to come in (hopefully to avoid injury this time, looked good in his brief – VERY – brief time on pitch) I expect Obertan to improve dramatically, and some of our kids to come through, like young, greatly liked Shane Fergie.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jul 2, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #37

    IU’m not so sure. It obviously depends on what other strikers we can look at, and of course, we cant expect clubs to give us Tiots’s for small beer each time. I have a feeling Twente are playing hard ball because of Tiote too. In that case, sometimes you just have to pay up. Assuming NUFC really want this guy, then pay up 11mill , and if that is rejected, leave it. Remember we wont always be in a position to pay hard cash either.

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  • nightfa11

    Jul 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #38

    i think 10 is ALOT.. considering u need to pay a mio, 2 to his agent & signing on fee..its 15 mio straight away..on 1 unestablished player with 1 year left on his contract..

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  • Valci

    Jul 2, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #39

    @ nightfall

    I agree 100%. The added expense would surely bring the total amount spent towards the 15mil mark. And all that for an unproven player. I support the club’s decision of 10mil and not a penny more….if it is true that is. I think it’s a fair valuation for an unproven player.

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  • hdavid23

    Jul 2, 2012 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #40

    look, remember when NUFC and Marseilles couldnt agree on the deal for Benny? he forced it… if de Jong really wants to come here, he’ll come here… if not, then he’ll go elsewhere

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