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Racist Tweet Sent To Danny Simpson Simply A Disgrace

10:07 am, Monday, July 2nd, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 144 Comments

Both the Evening Chronicle and Journal  are reporting that there has been a racial tweet sent to Danny Simpson’s twitter account, the Newcastle United right back.

Danny Simpson – racial tweet sent to him last night

Apparently the tweet sent to Simpson last night referred to the player’s  color of his skin, and telling him to break both of his legs.

But it seems that Newcastle fans went into action big time last night, and even though the Twitter account had been deleted,  fans have informed the police, and they are onto the case, and we would expect the culprit to be caught today.

You can delete lots of things on your PC, but there is always a record kept of things – and especially with tweets, once they are sent out, they remain on the blogosphere for all to see.

Danny is still delaying signing his new contract at Newcastle, and he tweeted that the tweet was ‘pathetic’ on his Twitter account last night – and we have to agree with him on that.

I’ve found personally over the last five years or so, that you are always prone to some terrible abuse when you are online, with the emphasis on terrible, and that happens even more to celebrities like footballers, who are always in the public domain.

It’s just not right to abuse people for their color or creed, and I know it’s a cliche – but we’re all very much the same  beneath how we look on the outside.

That’s my belief in any case, and it’s a strong one.

We hope Danny stays on Tyneside and signs a new deal for Newcastle in the next couple of weeks.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Danny Simpson · Newcastle News





144 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Toonboy_84 // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    Anyone see what was actually said? Disgraceful!

  • 2 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    Well said ed great article we all live in a modern multi cultural multi faith world and there is absolutly no space for small minded idiots like this

  • 3 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    argh god, sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me, jesus christ what has the world come to

  • 4 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:18 AM

    not supporting any prejudice but christ the world needs to grow up

  • 5 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:18 AM

    I didnt toonboy could you give us an indication?

  • 6 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:20 AM

    By the way ed’s last post was really misleading.

    He said we are in negotiations for 4 or 5 and at last count it was 6 or 7 including Hoilett and Toivonen.

    Goodness me where do we go from here?

  • 7 Tom4Nufc // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    As always Ed- hit the nail on the head with the article… It’s simply a disgrace that people feel it acceptable to conduct themselves in this manner.

    As you say, there’s no doubt he’ll be caught- just look at the fool who posted those racist comments about Muamba shortly after his collapse… Jailed and quite right too.

  • 8 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Nobby sol

    Are you hitler in disguise? Are you hitler in disguise? Are you hitler, are you hitler, are you hitler in disguise?

  • 9 ochytoon // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    Beattie
    That makes me feel sick. How could Ed make such a miscalculation?!

  • 10 rich_toonfan // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    There is no need for anyone to say disgusting things like that.

    There is no need for anyone to say such things. If you are willing to say things like that in public god knows how horrid their private views really are.

  • 11 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM

    Nobby Sol….So you don’t think there is a need to deal with disgusting, moronic and grossly outdated social behavior?

    Some things should be taken with a pinch of salt, for sure, this really isn’t one of them though.

    On the actual issue, nice to see the fans have jumped in on Simmo’s behalf, but I seem o remember it was reported that “some” newcastle fans did the same? Mind you, with Twitter, can you ever be sure where the person is from and whether they are actually a fan of the club they claim?

  • 12 Lynxie // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    Whoever is responsible will be caught out. if they are stupid enough to go public with thier outdated and pathetic views, they are not clever enough to cover their tracks. This has no place in todays society, and I sincerely hope that they get their just desserts. Simmo ahs been a good servant to NUFC, and if he decides to move on, that is his perogative, there is absolutely no need for behaviour like this. It would not surprise me in the slightest to discover that this fool is a mackem, as he surely is no Toon supporter, and neither should he be considered as one.

  • 13 jesperfuglsang // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    It really strikes me at times how sad it is that words such as tolerance and diversity are so unfamiliar to some people’s vocabulary???

    …something really have got to gone wrong in their upbringing.

    Hang in there Simmo and keep the faith!

  • 14 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    Ibiza

    Exactly. Twitter has created a false environment where people can masquarade as anybody and insult whom they like.

    Much like on here when we get insulted by scousers or Mackems posing as toon fans.

    I’m pretty sure Ed really supports Boro

  • 15 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    surely the country we live in is more like hitler, if we are being monitored on what we say, ready to lock up if we step out of line? having said that i agree racism is wrong but howay, to quote ronan keeting; its only words

  • 16 Les Grossman // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    I have been following this on twitter.
    The little boy who abused Danny immediately deleted his account!! Tough boy coward scumbag, and then let his lass take all the flack. Although she was no saint in it, after re-tweeting his racist tweets. Then his spotty little mates come on defending him, calling him a legend. They are all about 16 years old. From the Monkseaton area. Their pictures plastered all over their twitter accounts. I dont condone violence, but please have a dig about, check out their faces and if you see them in the street, give them a STERN talking too ;-). I will be…..
    Keyboard warriors, with spotty faces….is there out worse?

  • 17 jesperfuglsang // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    nobby sol

    that sounds like George Orwell’s 1984 prediction mate :(

  • 18 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Nobby Sol…Don’t go trying to soften us up with some wise words from Ronan!

    England is very much becoming a police state, which I am certainly not for, however, the free speech argument falls on its backside when you have uneducated morons given the reigns to spout what they want over the internet to a global audience.

    Until we find a way to deal with these issues, controls etc will just get worse and worse imo. Do we blame the government for controlling more or the people for playing right in to their hands and giving them good reason?

    Orwell, what a brilliant b*st*rd!

    Beattie….Maybe even, dare I say it, a mackem? :)

  • 19 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    i simply dont belive that a statement should ever be bad enough to commit a crime, yes they may be mean, rude , disgusting blah blah, the world is made of people with different opinions, we call em racists, is that not bad of us to group them together like the way they would collectively group together black people, arent we discriminating the discrimanators, freedom of speech where have you gone? we are all hypocrates in this world

  • 20 dave 1961 // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    if it was down to me i would make the thick brainless clown pay £500 to Simpson then watch his face a Simpson sends it to his favorite charity, we don’t have prison places for these numb nuts to go too, hit them in the pocket. as prison’s a bit over the top.

  • 21 Les Grossman // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    Nobby Sol
    Those who condone the wrong deserved to be judged as WRONG.

  • 22 HullMag6 // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    A prime example why some people label ManUre fans SCUM.

  • 23 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    @ dave1961 or maybes just a public apology would do, humiliation is the greatest way to detter someone

  • 24 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    “i simply dont belive that a statement should ever be bad enough to commit a crime”.

    You’d be amazed at what can start from some simple words.

    They say knowledge is power, well, what power is there if you have “false knowledge” (for the lack of a better term)?

    The Hitler comparison has been used already today and is definitely over the top in this example, however, I’m pretty sure the whole movement started off the back of some statements (words).

    Discrimination is not acceptable. Racists is the proper group name for people who say racist things, so no I don’t think it makes us as bad as them. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however, if you’re going to broadcast it over the internet, you best be sure you’ve thought it through first, which clearly this individual hasn’t

  • 25 markmac // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    What has anyone actually got against Danny? its not like he’s a ‘ballotelli or barton’

  • 26 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    nobby sol – there’s a difference between freedom of speech and abuse. And abuse based on nothing more than the colour of his skin is completely moronic.

    If we let one idiot like this get away with it, then there would be many more racist pr*cks on Twitter having a go at all the black players, and none of them would be on Twitter to interact with the real fans.

  • 27 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    @Les Grossman nice point, and how are you allowed to say whats right and whats not? Its soft to say i condone racism, but i certainly think we should have a slightly more relaxed approach to it, if i call a white man a tw@t on twitter, then call a black man, a black tw@t, how is one worse than the other?

  • 28 Les Grossman // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Prison, public humiliation, whatever….just someone get on twitter, get their photos and tw@ them.

    They are all bloody Justin Beiber one direction loving gimps who hide behind their keyboards!

    Honestly, theyll be messing it today …I hope!!

  • 29 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Nobby Sol….Well, the fact you’d have to mention the colour of one and not the other would imply the colour is also an issue. Which is racism.

    Calling someone a tw@ outright is just tw@ism….which is largely acceptable.

  • 30 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    nobby sol – I suggest you do a bit of research into the history of racism and discrimination if you don’t understand the difference between an insult and a racial insult. Adding the word black to an insult is a clear indication that that is supposed to be part of the insult, and it shouldn’t be.

    People might say “fat…” or “lanky…” and that’s meant to be more hurtful. Saying “black…” is wrong because it’s using race to insult someone and completely wrong because a person shouldn’t get insulted simply for being black.

    If someone called you a “Geordie tw*t”, you’d take that as a personal insult and also an insult against Geordies wouldn’t you?

  • 31 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    ah yes but by calling him a black tw@ is not racism, because its a damn fact that he happens to be a tw@ that is black, black which is different to me, whereas i cant reffer to a white man as a white tw@ as that makes no sense, as im white, ahaha oh a morning debate, so hard on the mind

  • 32 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Les….Is it wrong to like Beiber then? :) Only joking…honest ;)

  • 33 deeeeeeano // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    About a month and a half ago somebody said something about his little one, can’t remember what it was but it was disgusting, vile. A load of people including myself gave the person what for but I really don’t and can’t comprehend what goes on in some sick barstewards

  • 34 deeeeeeano // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    …….heads. Sorry f’ing iphone

  • 35 deeeeeeano // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    …….heads. Sorry flipping iphone

  • 36 duncandisorderly // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    I’ve seen both of the recent r@ce related assaults on Twitter and, frankly, I suspect it’s becoming something of a sport, doing it for attention and, presumably, hiding from prosecution. While I’m totally against it, we are probably guilty off feeding these sad individuals’ egos further by making a big deal about them. Let the police sort it out and move on…

  • 37 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:04 AM

    Nobby sol…..So will you list of all said twats different traits? I.e. You tall, crew cut, jean wearing, well endowed, middle aged black tw@?

    No, you wouldn’t. Generally, if someone brings colour in to it, it’s to say they have an issue with their colour. Why would it need to be said otherwise?

    Personally, I have no problem with white, black, yellow, green or blue. Physical attributes do not define who I am, nor anyone else and as such should have no bearing on opinions at all.

    That is the point for me. Times have moved on and we cannot just allow people to continue as if it is ok.

    Sounds a little hippy trippy, I know, but most of the worlds problems stem from misinformed prejudice and it does need addressing

  • 38 Les Grossman // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Ibizatoon

    YES!! SO VERY WRONG

  • 39 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Ibiza – I think you and I are in total agreement here.

  • 40 jesperfuglsang // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    I have always been taught not to take freedom of speech for granted, but also that with freedom of speech comes responsibility to use it wisely.

    …I know it sounds like something from a fortune cookie :) lol

  • 41 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    offcourse not ibizatoon but thats my point, why is one thing racist and illegal but

    calling someone a lanky whatever
    a short this
    a ginger that,

    hows that just hurtfull? and not a crime? its the same, they cant help how they were born

  • 42 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Nobby Sol….I would guess if you research some history you may find out why the colour of someone’s skin often causes more outrage than the colour of the hair or their height.

    Whilst I like a good debate, I feel that perhaps you’re just on a wind up and making this as difficult as possible. As always, that is just my opinion :)

    Jesper…That doesn’t only sound like it came out of a fortune cookie, but It said it in my fortune cookie last night ;)

    Very true however!

    Les…. :)

    ToonDarnSarf……Luckily it seems the majority on here are too. It makes me sick that there are still so many people out there that just don’t get it. We’re all human. The colour of one’s skin does not define that person. They’re are good and bad of all races, nationalities, ages, whatever. Welcome to the real world

  • 43 Burni // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    Nobby, just stop now.

    I think it’s terrible how people can say stuff like this in a malicious manner in this way in this day.

    To a minuscule extent, I agree that words are just words. If u were to call someone lazy if they are that’s fine. But as soon as you mention the colour of someones skin, you are differentiating between them and you, as you said nobby. It beggars belief that you can’t understand how that is racism.

    The only reason why you are so quick to defend these words and your actions is because you want to be able to talk like that? Surely?

    You notice how everyone else on here agrees with ed? Maybe you need to reassess your stance on racism nobby. Your the type of person that gives people in the north east that “naive” “ignorant” name that ppl down in londonassociate with us. Believe me, just come back from London and that is kinda how they see us.

  • 44 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    nobby sol – read my earlier post! Also, there has never been active discrimination against people for people ginger, short, or lanky.

    It wasn’t too long ago that there was institutionalised racism in this country, where black people were seen as second class citizens and had next to no chance in getting more senior jobs.

    It’s a crime because racism needs to be stamped out, and it has no part in a civilised society. There’s no need to add the “black” word to an insult, unless that person is trying to make the insult more hurtful, and if they are, then they are a racist.

  • 45 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    Bruni….I would add that having grown up down south, racism is as big a problem there than up North.

    Plus the southerners are just Northist MoFo’s :)

  • 46 conaldo // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    I seem what was said just after he tweeted it and the deleted his twitter acount thinking that would protect him. Turns out he has not only abused simmo but also sent some pretty vile tweets to Ashley young, Ashley cole, yaya toure. In fact the worst thing is he was tweeting to yaya you’re after he scored two past us in may. So this shows he considers himself a Newcastle fan…
    For those who are rambling on saying its only words and stuff, well aye it may only be words, but racism has been going on for thousands of years, you’d think people would have grown up a bit over a few millenia. And we all know there is a fine line between racist comments and “words” and violence, murders, riots, genocide. All fueled by racism.
    Anyway rant over

  • 47 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    Ibiza – it’s amazing how some people don’t think it through though. Forums like this are hopefully good to highlight how out of touch some people are. Even though it’s slight off topic to the usual posts!

    If I call a mackem a “tw*t”, that’s insulting him, if I call a mackem a “mackem tw*t”, then that’s definitely designed to hurt him a lot more!!

  • 48 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    history is history ibizatoon dont pull that one on me, slavery was abolished well over 100 years ago,

    and now now burni, im offering a slightly different view to you and im naive, and ignorant thanks.

    i refer to my original post, sticks and stones, if i was black and there was a moron on twitter saying cr@p to me, hmm i think id manage to get over it, especially in this case when i earn 20 k a week or whatver simmo gets. RACISM IS WRONG, i agree, A CRIME? not for me, murderers, rapists, theives yes, a name caller nope (and yes thats what racism is in this case)

  • 49 Rotonda heights // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    can’t stand racism, but unlike ed I hope simpson goes as if he doesn’t, it means no Debuchy / Clyne or other upgrade

  • 50 Lynxie // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    Nobby sol:
    So you would call Les Ferdinand / Tino Asprilla / Andy Cole / Papisse Cisse / Demba Ba (interesting this one if he leaves for the money)…….?

    Of course you shouldnt and hopefully wouldnt. It is the mindset of a neanderthal that thinks it is big and clever to abuse a persons skin colour, and they need to drag themselves into the 21st century, instead of behaving like pond scum.
    I once got into an argument with a coloured lad in the Sir John hall stand, for calling Uriah rennie a racist. Aparrently (he said), that is impossible….
    I replied, Oh really, so black people dont dislike white people is that it? Its a two way street, racists are racists, regardless of creed, and either way, they are f**ing retards.

  • 51 conaldo // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    nobby sol
    Is there no end to your ignorance. You think that just because your year 8 history teacher taught you (last week) that slavery was abolished in America that there is no such thing as slavery?? Haway man get real. Slavery and rape and murder and genocide all happens all over the world right now and most of it is fueled by racism. All over Africa, asia, america and in ENGLAND people kill each other all the time because of some stupid people racist beliefs, and yet you seem to be okey with it. Why don’t you just shut your trap untill you know what the hell you are talking about!

  • 52 conaldo // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    nobby sol
    Is there no end to your ignorance. You think that just because your year 8 history teacher taught you (last week) that slavery was abolished in America that there is no such thing as slavery?? Haway man get real. Slavery and rape and murder and genocide all happens all over the world right now and most of it is fueled by racism. All over Africa, asia, america and in ENGLAND people kill each other all the time because of some stupid people racist beliefs, and yet you seem to be okey with it. Why don’t you just shut your trap untill you know what you are talking about!

  • 53 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    lynxie christ no they were class, simmo is useless haha, listen i aint no racist i just find it pathetic that you can get locked up for saying something,

  • 54 conaldo // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Sorry for the multiple post guys phone is acting up lol

  • 55 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    nobby sol – are you really so ignorant? “history is history”??

    We learn about ourselves from history. Racial segregation actively existed in western countries just a few decades ago, and racial discrimination still exists today, in the workplace, on the street, and in our football grounds.

    Just because black people aren’t kept as slaves in the UK these days, doesn’t mean that we should forget the history and think racial insults are ok. I suppose insulting a black person by using the “n” or calling them a slave is acceptable to you too then?

  • 56 geordiesteve520 // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    I saw Danny’s reply to this but didn’t see the initial comment.

  • 57 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    Nobby Sol….Ever heard the expression “history has a way of repeating itself”?

    I’m not trying to “pull that one on you”, you asked why the colour of someone’s skin is an issue and not their hair colour or height. One major reason is that people have been treated differently and often beaten, murdered and generally abused due to the colour of their skin.

    Slavery was abolished years ago, you’re right, but whilst we allow people to continue with their small minded ramblings we will never be able to move on from it.

    You may be a bigger person that most and not take offense to verbal abuse and good on you, honestly. However, you cannot just apply that to every other person. Racism, whether actively or “just through words” is no longer acceptable and has no place in modern society. Is that clear enough?

    For the record, I am not claiming you are racist, as you haven’t actually said anything racist whatsoever, but I do find your views on racism to be naive and ignorant. Simmo has dealt with it in a respectable manner, much along the lines of your mantra “stick and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me”, however, I’m sure he’s been trained well in PR and probably has no reflection on how it really makes him feel.

    He’s not paid to have people abuse him for the colour of his skin. Comment on his footballing skills, or lack thereof, if you feel the need, but what the hell does colour have to do with it unless someone is being racist?

  • 58 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    conaldo – actually I’d say most of it is fueled by religion…but otherwise I agree with you!

    Which raises the point nobby sol, is it ok to call Ba a “black tw*t” and also a “muslim tw*t”?

  • 59 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    conaldo who you talking to d1ckhead? what you have said there strengthens my intial point, i offer a different view and am being totally jumped on by faggs, i step out of line with my opinion, my view which is a totally fair one, listen YOU SHOULD NOT GO TO JAIL FOR NAME CALLING!

    that is all my point is, I am not racist, i am not prejudice, I am not 8 years old, I just think its pathetic to be locked away for words

  • 60 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Call a Mackem a “tw*t”, call a Mackem a “Mackem tw*t” and it cuts to their very soul.

    Actually, bad example. There’s nothing wrong with being black…

  • 61 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    calling some the n word or a slave is not acceptable in my eyes, but isnt a criminal offence in my eyes neither

  • 62 rich_toonfan // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    Any form of discrimination is wrong.

    A recent report was revealed where people pay I equally affected by race, height and gender.

    Race or anything is no reason to discriminate against anyone. It’s one thing making a joke of something with a friend but to verbally abuse somebody for anything I wrong.

    If Simpson was not as mentally strong those racist comments coil result in him taking his own life. Nobody should ever try and put somebody in that position where they feel excluded for no reason.

  • 63 conaldo // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    Nobby sol. Some scumbag has went online and racially abused one of our players, so your first thought is to go to a Newcastle united blog an defend the guy? The people on here disagree with you and rightly so. As I have tried to say, fair enough sending racist tweets is not as bad as murdering someone or whatever u said, but if u let people off with tweets and “words” how long till it becomes threats and intimidations, how long till it becomes violence? and if you actually learned how to read I said you were in year 8 not 8years old. And d1ckhead? Wow don’t hurt my feelings mate.
    And ToonDarnSarf, yeah I know what you mean with religion but to be honest, most religious conflicts etc often are accompanied by racist ideals etc aswell so the two kind of go hand in hand

  • 64 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    nobby sol – it’s called bullying. You may not work in an environment where you are a minority, but imagine you did. If one person gets away with an insult against you, you can soon feel singled out, bullied and discriminated against. There’s just no place for that in a civilised society.

    While I agree that in the main, people should have thicker skins, it’s sad that we have lost promising members of society to bullying because they have lost their job, been driven to depression or even taken their own lives. All because of ignorance.

  • 65 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    conaldo i heard about the story from this blog so…..no i didnt hear about the story then come here to start a fight

    I havent got a problem with people disagreeing, thats what makes our country so great, opinions, different views etc. apparently i am the antichrist for suggesting that prison is a tad over the top for ‘racism’ ‘name calling’ whatever, my opinion wont be changed, anyways im gunna getting back to the football lads

  • 66 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    Nobby Sol….Hmmm…was going to try and defend you a bit there….but the “being totally jumped on by faggs” remark made me think twice about your viewpoint.

    As I said before, I recognize you haven’t said anything on here that is racist, nor that you think racism is ok. Just that you don’t think racism can be applied to name calling and that you think jail is too much for the “crime”.

    Can you not see by the comments you’re seeing on here what a big issue these “words” are? It’s obviously still very raw to many people.

    I do think prison is over the top for some “idiot at a keyboard”, who probably doesn’t have the brain or hasn’t been given the information in which to behave like a reasonable human. Perhaps anti racism classes would be better?

    As much as I don’t think prison is the answer, I don’t think as it’s only “words” it’s not a crime. They’re should be some punishment.

    Plus, I haven’t checked, but I would bet my left testicle (my favourite one incidentally) that when you sign up to the site, you agree not to abuse others and in particular use no racist language. So the kid is wrong in what he did, there are not two ways about it.

  • 67 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    ill settle the score with you ibiza reasonable bloke

  • 68 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    Stick him in a cell for a week with a 6’5″, 20st black guy…with a Twitter account…

    Then he’ll learn who the boss is…

  • 69 Lynxie // Jul 2, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    nobby sol:
    I think you will find that it is an offence to call someone the ‘n’ word. Despite many rap songs containing the lyric, and it being socially acceptable for ethnic minorities to call each other.
    If you still dont understand, get yourself up Westgate road and shout it at anyone. Steep learning curve my friend, move with the times, name calling is puerile and childish, and socially unacceptable when race is involved.

  • 70 Lynxie // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    ibizatoon.
    I could not have put it better myself. Great post. My left one is also my favourite hahahah

  • 71 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    lynxie ok, again im not supporting racism, i am against it as everyone should be but, prison really!?

  • 72 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Ibiza – so you’re a reasonable bloke but conaldo is a “d*ckhead” and the rest of us are “faggs”…

  • 73 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    yes that comment right there defines you as a fag toondarnsarf

  • 74 Phil K // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    Lynxie, it is repugnant no doubt, but bottom line it is name calling, no more. The double standards on this issue are appalling. The imprisoning of that idiot in Swansea – and ruining his entire life for FS was a disgrace – and yet KNOWN muslim terrorists and their supporters are treated with kid gloves. Now THATS evil.

  • 75 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    get real lads haha now back to the football? anyone?

  • 76 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    ToonDarnSarf….I think when the “faggs” comment was made, I was in actual fact, one of them :)

    Why do I feel that I may get stuck in the middle of this one? Lol. Maybe I put myself there?

    So guys, there was a racist, a d*ckhead, Ibizatoon and some homosexual people (can’t bring myself to quote that horrible word again)…..sounds like the start of a canny joke!

  • 77 Lynxie // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    Good debate lads, and for once almost civil. thats the spirit.
    Now then, De Jong or Tiovonen?
    For me its the swede.

  • 78 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Nobby Sol….I actually have a big problem with the use of that word and general discrimination. I have tried to separate you being a racist to having different opinions on how racism should be handled. However, it would seem that you are just an outdated stereotype that needs to think before he types.

  • 79 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:11 PM

    Civil??? Lol, Lynxie, we obviously have different levels of civil :)

  • 80 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    fact is ibiza had reasonable tone and made valid points and actually was reading my posts, whereas that other d1ck stormed in and called me a naive 8 year old, haha and everyone else was like ‘ oh nobby so its okay to take a dump on a black persons head’ im like whoah i havent said any of this!

  • 81 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    Nobby…Then try pointing that out without adding fuel to the fire or using some people sexual preference as an insult…also extremely outdated

  • 82 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    ibiza oh what word? fag?

  • 83 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    nobby sol isn’t a racist, just ignorant. Calling people “fags” and other names is just pathetic too…

    Some people need to try and think what it would be like if the boot was on the other foot…

  • 84 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    nobby sol – I made valid points without resorting to insults. You just chose not to read or respond to them…

  • 85 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    sticks and stones ibiza
    sticks and stones
    grow up boys

  • 86 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    Nobby…in this case, yes.

    Let me guess, you were calling them cigarettes?

  • 87 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    toondarnsarf you sir have just called me patheitc and ignorant haha listen guys 99% of the blog agree racists should be crusified, I, the measily 1 percent think prison is ridiculus, we know where we stand, I have no qualms, with any of you lott, you are my geordie family, i suppose im the uncle n0bhead, haha

  • 88 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    Nobby….

    …”Any discrimination, like sharp turns in a road, becomes critical because of the tremendous speed at which we are traveling into the high-tech world of a service economy.”

    Perhaps you should grow up and stop using old sayings as an excuse not to.

    Anyway, we’ve probably beaten this like the proverbial read headed step child…not sure what else we can achieve here

  • 89 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    ibiza that insults you…… sue me

    (its a line from die hard 3)

  • 90 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    read headed? Perhaps red headed :)

  • 91 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    haha ibiza how the hell was i supposed to know your a fag, i could have used any word be11end for that matter, christ boys

  • 92 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    I don’t remember any reference to Ibiza in Die Hard :)

    I’m not going to sue you, obviously. Just letting you know my thoughts, as you have made yours known and I don’t agree.

  • 93 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    Ignorant as far as the conversation at hand goes, yes. Because I don’t think you understand racism and the harm it can do to people. Comparing it to insulting someone for being tall or ginger is naive at best.

    And I said it was pathetic to insult people using the names you chose. I didn’t actually call you pathetic.

  • 94 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    Nobby….Your lack of judgement may have failed you again. I never said I was or wasn’t, just that I find the term unacceptable.

    Wasn’t it you asking others to actually read what you’d written in your posts? I suggest you do the same.

  • 95 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    wether your a fag or not its pathetic to be insulted from someone saying the word, haha aye right toondarnsarf me and thee are settled, and again ibiza no problem with you unless you chose to have one with me

  • 96 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:36 PM

    Nobby…Opinions are a wonderful.We’ll agree to disagree. No problem with you, only some of your words.

  • 97 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    feel free to take the “a” out of that sentence.

  • 98 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    good man

  • 99 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    Agree with Ibiza post 96.

  • 100 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    And 97…

  • 101 MacToon // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    So racism should be ignored and it’s ok to be homophobic!
    Sigh.

  • 102 toon-hendy // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    I’ve got to admitt I agree with nobby sol. I don’t believe that rasicm is acceptable but that it shouldnt result in prison or fines.

    My opinion is that it’s just the same as calling someone fat/ginger/small etc!! it’s only name calling and childish!!!!

    Yes, we don’t want to see it.. but drastic actions aren’t in the answer in my opinion.

    I’m not defneding the lad in any way and fully back Simmo because he’s a toon player (for how long I dont know) but it’s fans that got police involved and simmo basically laughed it off calling them pathetic… The person should get banned from certain websites and warned about conduct, if it was to happen again then a fine (more times then the higher the fine).

    Totally agree whith whoever said public apology, humiliation at it’s finest. (if they don’t apoligise in public then an instant fine!)

  • 103 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    MacToon – so you watched us fighting the good fight and then chip in because we aren’t still fighting it?!

    I think Ibiza and I made our points quite clear that we don’t think it’s ok to display racism or homophobia. But there’s no point constantly making the same points, it’s down to other people to decide if they want to take those points in and reevaluate their own opinions.

    There’s a point you just have to leave it…especially on a football forum…

  • 104 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    MacToon….Apparently so :(

    Toon Hendy…..I think a lot of people agree that prison isn’t the answer, but neither is “well, it’s only words”.

  • 105 Phil K // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    Toondarnsarf – there was a case a dozen years ago where a shy ginger girl was bullied and terrorised to a ridiculous extent – the FATHER (a drunk and druggie) of the bullies torched the victims home killing her grandparents (parents were dead) and seriously burning her.
    Because she was ginger.
    This “Its worse when done to me” shit is offensive. The gays and lesbians are the same.

  • 106 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    toon-hendy – can’t fine them unless it’s a criminal offence. And I thought you said you didn’t agree with fines?

    Have you read the posts from Ibiza and I why we believe it isn’t the same as calling someone ginger, small etc.??

  • 107 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    “You can take the horse to water, but you can’t make it drink”

    I suppose you could drown the stupid tw@ though :)

  • 108 Phil K // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Yes, this is reprehensible.
    It is NOT worse than other abuse.
    Abuse is abuse.
    Grades of abuse only displays the bias (or gullibility) of the ranter.

  • 109 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Phil K….been a long morning, can you clarify what you mean at the end of your post?

  • 110 rich_toonfan // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM

    I do think prison is too much for a one off racist comment, although I think it is unacceptable to say those things.

    These people who say things need educating as a lot of them are ignorant an dnt realise the consequences of what they say.

    Inciting racism is much different though, if you’ll out of your way to try and influence the opinion of others and preach racism is good and certain races shoul be punishe etc that deserves some time in prison.

    But I do also agree, most cases of suicide where people have been verbally abused are not race related but come down to hair colour, appearance etc. all should be treat with similar punishments.

  • 111 ste_rico_nufc // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM

    i saw the tweet he put on he then deleted his profile one of his mates started to try and defend him and he said his mate had balls for doing it (internet gangster) but then someone searched him in facebook and found out what school he goes to and proceeded to email his school and messaged his parents thru facebook telling them what hes done and that the police had been called

  • 112 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    Phil K – Bullying needs to be identified and stopped too. But there isn’t a history of systemic discrimination and abuse of ginger people, like there is with non-whites or homosexuals. Nobody has ever seriously suggested that ginger people are in any way inferior to non-gingers, but it was actually commonly accepted (and still is by some idiots) that white people are the superior race.

  • 113 MacToon // Jul 2, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    ToonDarnSarf, I am free to post here aslong as I follow Ed’s rules, I actually found some comments offensive, naive and very outdated to say the least.

    I have no idea why you think you have more right to post than myself and because you believe that you have answered or replied means that others need not is slightly egotistical in may books.

  • 114 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    Thank you for clearing that one up. Well that doens’t hold up to your “it’s worse when done to me”.

    I am not black or gay, yet given the gross behavior to those groups, shall we say, over the years, I tend to find insults to them slightly more offensive than say comments made to Ginger haired people.

    That’s not to say the abuse is not as bad, but perhaps we need to deal with the issues that are causing problems on a bigger scale first?

  • 115 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    Mactoon…I think he took your comment as to say we’d given up on the fight, not just your commentary on the sad situation. Not 100% sure of course, but I don’t believe he was implying his opinion is greater than yours

  • 116 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    MacToon – it would be nice if you could step off your moral high horse. I certainly never said that you couldn’t post, just thought we had covered the point to its natural end, and if you had something to say, you could have chipped in earlier to reinforce our point, which you seem to agree with.

    Both Ibiza and I found some comments offensive, naive and very outdated, and I am very confident that we told nobby sol as much. I’m not sure what else we could have done!

  • 117 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:11 PM

    ToonDarnSarf….I don’t think he was originally critiquing our comments. Just that people like Nobby Sol think it isn’t a big deal.

    Emotions running high today!

  • 118 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Ibiza – Maybe…bit of a coincidence with the timing perhaps…

  • 119 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    MacToon is generally a good poster imo and I certainly didn’t take it as directed at me :)

  • 120 MacToon // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    No need to answer for me.

    I read through this blog when I have time, I always have.
    I found myself reading through this blog and wished to comment on some posts which have been posted this morning, as I was unable to post this morning I added my two penneth worth but did not realise there was a time scale involved.

    As for “it would be nice if you could step off your moral high horse”, you again feel it is your right to tell me what to do/say. I think it is you that should reevaluate your posts!

  • 121 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    I didn’t take his first post as a definitely directed at me, just a comment about the sad state of affairs sometimes…

    Maybe he misunderstood my reply….

  • 122 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    MacToon….My deepest apologies.

  • 123 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    MacToon – The moral high horse comment was because you made out that I suggested you couldn’t comment, that your comments were in some was inferior to mine, or that I had perfectly fought the good fight. None of which I did. You also called me egotistical for the same reason.

    Maybe your comment was coincidental timing, coming as it did just 1 minute after we had agreed to disagree with our less wordly friend…

  • 124 nobby sol // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs

    skip to 3 minutes 30 seconds and watch from there

  • 125 MacToon // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    Lol Ibiza, no need to apologise mate. ToonDarnSarf, I wish “no beef” with you either but wanted to comment because someone defending racism by making homophobic comments highlights ignorance in the highest degree and wished to to show my own disappoval of such comments.

    The arguements about such matter will never be over until racism, homophobia, sexism etc. finally disappears for good. unfortunately I cannot see that happening in my time.

    My timing was obviously out and I apologise for that but I rarely comment here atm because of the topics and posts are generally covered 10 fold by others or maybe it’s a little boring ;) at times.

    Tbh, this discussion (earlier) reminds me of arguements I used to have 30 years ago with my old man! Have we not moved on since then!

  • 126 Beardo // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    I just tend to direct my abuse in the general direction of Geordie Shore and people of that mould.

    As Charlie Brooker says, they’re professional public hate figures, doing their bit for the community. We need someone to abuse or we’d be strangling our neighbours to death. :)

  • 127 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    Beardo….But that’s Shoreism and is disgusting! :)

    Mactoon….Please let me be sorry ;)

    Nobby Sol…I dare not click the link

  • 128 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:39 PM

    nobby sol – Both Ibiza and I have argued this point many times. I agree completely that political correctness has gone too far and that people should not be offended so easily.

    However, it’s a very different situation when genuine discrimination exists, especially when it was so extreme relatively recently in this country.

    In fact, your homophobic jokes are proof of the big issue that the football community has with homosexuality and the fact that there is not one openly gay professional footballer in this country.

    You need to understand the history of UK attitudes towards race and racism to even begin to comprehend the pain that has been caused to non-whites in this country.

  • 129 MacToon // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    OK Ibiza just this once ….. lol

    Thought the discussion was over ToonDarnSarf @ 128 ;)

  • 130 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:43 PM

    Sorry MacToon, bit of a misunderstanding based on the timing and a bit of an emotive topic! I think we’re in agreement on the greater topic anyway!

    Ibiza – his link is just a comedian making jokes about political correctness. nobby sol has missed the point again though, this isn’t about PC, these issues are greater than that.

    History makes some issues more sensitive…

  • 131 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    It certainly does ToonDarnSarf.

    MacToon….You are as generous as you are wise and I thank you :)

  • 132 Beardo // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    Gingerism is rife – http://youtu.be/xUiSpT0vQlQ

  • 133 MacToon // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    Very emotive ToonDarnSarf and yes we are generally in agreement, thanks for the apology but again unneccesary.
    Btw, been so long since I posted really I’m surprised you remember me Ibiza, thanks for the comment @ 119.

  • 134 Dondatta13 // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:53 PM

    A few points on this topic…

    I hear sticks and stones…

    Do you know that people that get bullied have been known to KILL THEM SELVES? Just think about that for a moment. Words have driven some people to suicide!

    Another thing, is making monkey chants OK? It’s not even words, it’s just noises? (just typing that has left a bad taste in my mouth).

    The FACT is it’s all diabolical.

    Is jail the correct punishment for this crime? I certainly think that it has been used in the past as a kind of deterrent but obviously these people that hurl abuse at people are so uneducated that they simply fail to take the warning. In that case, jail them, with some non whites and see if that helps?

    I think the best way would be an internet ban of some kind.

  • 135 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    MacToon…I’m 1/4 Elephant…so the memory is ok :)

    Beardo…Don’t get me started on you Gingers ;)

  • 136 Matt // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    This guy’s racist tweet was not just a one off to Danny I screenshot 2 other tweets one being about Ashley young euro the euros and another about yaya toure after his 2 goals against Newcastle and that was ages ago ,the guy is racist I say throw the book at him regardless of his age

  • 137 Matt // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:06 PM

    This guy’s racist tweet was not just a one off to Danny I screenshot 2 other tweets one being about Ashley young euro the euros and another about yaya toure after his 2 goals against Newcastle and that was ages ago ,the guy is racist throw the book at him regardless of his age

  • 138 Dondatta13 // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:13 PM

    toon-hendy @102…

    “My opinion is that it’s just the same as calling someone fat/ginger/small etc!! it’s only name calling and childish!!!!”

    I have never heard of someone being called fat/ginger/small being lynched (hanged from the nearest tree by the neck until dead) by groups.

    However I have heard of people being called the “N” word ending up on the end of a rope. FACT.

    Tell me you can see the difference mate…

  • 139 toon-hendy // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    Dondatta13 @138…

    To be honest I’ve heard of more stories about people killing/injuring themselfs for being bullied for being fat/ginger etc than being black!!

    I don’t condole racism just think everyone treats it over the top.

    If someone get’s called fat it’s all forgot about, if someone is called an ‘N’ it’s allover.

    Also, the tweet, i’d be more concerned about people wanting simmos legs broke than calling him a name!!! (rumoured the tweet mentioned this)

  • 140 Dondatta13 // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    Toon-hendy…

    You missed my point there my friend…

    What I said to you was “I have never heard of someone being called fat/ginger/small being LYNCHED (hanged from the nearest tree by the neck until dead) by groups”.

    “However I have heard of people being called the “N” word ending up on the end of a rope. (at the hands of a lynch posse) FACT”.

    Would you agree or disagree with my statement? Yes, or No?

  • 141 Dondatta13 // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:18 PM

    Also the fact that he wants Simmo’s legs broke makes me ask this question….

    Why does he want his legs broke? is it because he is black?

  • 142 Dondatta13 // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    Toon-hendy…

    I’m not having a go at you mate. I am just trying to get people to understand the difference between being called fat/ginger/tall/short and someone being racially abused.

    When you say “If someone get’s called fat it’s all forgot about, if someone is called an ‘N’ it’s allover.”

    That’s down to the statement on posts 138 & 140.

    There is a history of black people being called the N word and being killed at the hands of baying mobs. It went on for YEARS.

    There is not now or never has been, to my knowledge, any instances over a prolonged period of years of people being killed by baying mobs for being fat/ginger/tall/short ect.

    God forbid, over the next 100-200 years if fat people were to die in such a manner I would expect the word “fat” to cause some serious discomfort and be deemed a criminal offense.

  • 143 Lynxie // Jul 2, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    Toivonen or De Jong?
    Jesus are you guys still at it with the nobby sol condones racist abuse stuff?

    Nobby sol, If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
    LOL.
    Come on lads, The footy season is only weeks away, we need to get into pre season training with speculation and wildly wide of the mark opinions LOL

  • 144 Lynxie // Jul 2, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    Toivonen or De Jong, you stupid Ginger/Baldy/Short/lanky, skinny / fat/blind /deaf/ able bodied /black / white / chinese / arabic / eskimo NEWCASTLE SUPPORTERS!




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