It was a good Euro 2012 final last night, when Spain beat Italy 4-0, and to their credit Spain played some of their best football of the tournament, when it really mattered.
Andrés Iniesta kisses the Cup
I was one of those who were starting to criticize Spain for their rather boring play, in some of their games in the tournament, but they showed last night they are a great side.
And they could even be one of the best National sides ever, although I still think the Brazil side of 1970, with the incomparable Pele in their ranks, are the tops.
Italy did very well last night too, and they can take credit for their performances during the tournament, and the score of 4-0 did not do them any justice, and it was those two late goals after they had been reduced to 10 men, that was the reason for the final lop-sided score-line.
And it was good to see Fernando Torres come on and score a good opportunist goal late in the game, and then set one up for his Chelsea team mate – Juan Mata – two rather good substitutes to be able to play late in the game ……
And it was surprising that Fernando won the Golden Boot award, after scoring three goals in the tournament, along with five other players, and he won because he had an assist and was on the field for less time than the other players who got three goals.
And with new Chelsea manager, Roberto Di Matteo seemingly a big fans of Torres, Fernando may be able to come back to his best form next season, and we hope that’s the case, because it’s now around 30 months that he’s been down in the dumps with his play, and it must have been a nightmare for him.
There’s no doubt that Spain proved they are the best side in the world last night, and they are the only team to have won three major Championships in a row, the 2008 and 2012 European Championships, and the 2010 World Cup in between those two.
And we wonder if Brazil or Germany can give them a game in the 2014 World Cup?
Or maybe even England?
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75 responses so far ↓
1 TemuriKetsbaia // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:18 PM
Huh. I just got back from space. Was expecting England to win.
2 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Regarding the Mackems
You mean to tell me it’ll be O’shea, Wes Brown, Bramble, Cuellar, Keiron Richardson and Cattermole against Cisse, Ba, De Jong, Benny and Cabaye???
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I seriously think they may go down next season
3 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:30 PM
I was thinking about this yesterday, who may go down next season.
All the promoted clubs look decent and have money to spend. Norwich are giving hoots their biggest ever transfer allowance. Villa have got lambert. Wigan Martinez. So that leaves Swansea and WBA with inexperienced managers regarding English football and the Mackems with no money and a load of ageing man utd rejects.
Who do you guys think will get relegated??
4 pieceofpapiss // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:33 PM
@Beattie
Villa are no cert to stay up, they need some big changes in their squad. Mackems are going to be down there. Swansea and WBA deffo. Wigan too. Southampton may struggle, depending on the transfer window. Think they are going to rely on loans as they are skint. REading should do ok, especially now they have Guthrie and Prognebyak.
5 ochytoon // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:37 PM
PieceOfPappis
Saints are the fifth richest club in the UK. They are by no means skint.
6 MacToon // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:39 PM
Yes, best team won and I agree Ed that I haven’t seen such a good football team and display since the 1970 Brazil team.
Congrats to Spain………
7 ochytoon // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:45 PM
POP
What’s more, they quite easily had the best team in the Championship, yet they succumbed to a number of injuries in the second half of the season, costing them the title by a couple of points.
8 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:47 PM
Guys just a quick thing..how many of a world 11 do you think would be spanish? Ive had a go and i think 8
Casillas
Alves pique ramos cole
Xavi pirlo alonso
Iniesta messi ronaldo
9 jayjo // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:48 PM
Unless they are signing for Newcastle i dont give a S..t , Ed get over to Holland and report on the Newcy news , all reading this pulling our hair out … Oh another clump gone
10 No Plain Saylor // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Spain have the greatest side I’ve ever seen, top scorers and least conceded, just guessing here but probably most possession and passing. And all this without their all time top scorer david villa and leader carlos puyol. But that being said they’re passing for most
11 No Plain Saylor // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:52 PM
Of the tournament was just plain boring, and they are capable of playing like last night every game
12 outsidethebox // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:54 PM
wonder if there is more to blackburn deal for best….martin olsson swedish left back available on free with hoilett …
13 rainrix // Jul 2, 2012 at 1:55 PM
So the scum have signed cuellar? HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Please o’neil sign heskey as well I’m in need of some hilarity to break up the boredom of not signing anyone
14 No Plain Saylor // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:04 PM
Outsidethebox, this discussion was had before olsson has a contract till 2015 unless he has some get out clause for relegation then he aint free
15 nightfa11 // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:18 PM
scr** spain… all we hear about for the past 5 years is iniesta, xavi, messi, barca, spain, messi, xavi, real, barca, spain, iniesta, real, barca, barca..
its exhausting.. =)
16 Mo Drysdale // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Team Olympics:————-Foster———————————
Walker————Richards————Tomkins———–Gibbs
———Wilshere————-Ramsey————-Cleverley——
Sturridge——————————————————–Giggs
———————————-Rhodes——————————-
Subs: Neil Taylor, Scott Sinclair, Jack Rodwell, Craig Bellamy, Phil Jones
17 outsidethebox // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:20 PM
no plain saylor .@ 14 ..i know olsson has put in a transfer request but if he isnt free and the 24 yr old rule dosent apply then toon wont pay ..sorry.didn,t see prev discussion …just think that there may be further moves…
18 Oldgit1 // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:29 PM
For all the bloggers on this site wanting to hear about NUFC dealings in the transfer market, be careful what you wish for.
Tiote to Chelsea, Cissie and Colo to Citah, Cabye and Ba to Manu, Hba to Arse.
When Ashley, (which it is only rumoured) says there is 20 million to spend he does mean that the amount will include wages etc.
Beware of the sting in the tail which Ashley has a habit of delivering to us supporters.
19 grumpy_old_sod // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:34 PM
Oldgit1
Ridiculous
20 Toonboy_84 // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:38 PM
I think oldgit needs a short break in OV
21 grumpy_old_sod // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:39 PM
Oldgit1
I have an idea for your new ID senileoldgit1.
22 rainrix // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:40 PM
Speaking of transfers what kind of player is anita anyone? Is he a pacy/tricky DMF or is he basically just tiote with cornrows?
23 toonincheek // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Oldgit –
Not living in OV then?
Have to admit, though, there has been a sting in the tail all too often.
I know that, in the past, it has been argued that free transfers are not ‘free’ and that calculations have indicated that wages over the length of the contract were taken as part of the current spending, not spread over the period, but I think that MAY NOT be the case this time.
Then again, the rumoured budget of 20-ish million was supposed to include some quality younsters. For sure, there will be no big fees involved there, but the aggregate cost of 8 younsters to replace those who have left will add up.
24 pieceofpapiss // Jul 2, 2012 at 2:50 PM
On a side note, after reading through the last few days of comments i’ve wrote a song for my band titled “Keyboard Warrior”. Might do a rough recording of it tonight. If any of you like pop-punk/punk-rock, click the link on my name and check my band out.
25 davybtoon // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:02 PM
haha not only hav they signed cuellar there supposed to b getting heskey aswell
26 rich_toonfan // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:03 PM
Nobody knows if our budget includes wages and fees or anything. Or what our budget is for that matter.
Simple thing is all clubs include wages and fees in some sort of budget, just how they break it down.
Also I can’t think of a single club which has ever stated what their transfer budget is.
27 davybtoon // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:04 PM
best n forster out today for 5mill so thats an extra 5mill for transfers
reckon we will have some good news soon
28 davybtoon // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:07 PM
richtoon – no club says there budget its jus the press guessing, but what i do kno is dl n lc wouldnt b in holland for 4 days if we werent close to signing some players from there, douglas n de jong mentioned but remember weve also been linked with rosales, anita, alderweild n others from the dutch league i defo think we could announce a few deals soon
29 Toonboy_84 // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:07 PM
@davy
It’s unfair for you to have all that optimism. Could you please share some with oldgit?
30 DannyA // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:13 PM
wat the hell is Pardew doin at wimbledon surely he has more important things to do such as mastermind the toons takeover ov the Prem next season lol
31 DoctorZelig // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Heard last night the commentators in my country said that Barcelona use around 100 million Pounds each year on their youth department.
If you look at that spain side a lot of their best players comes from that department. If England wants to compete with spain on the international level clubs need to up the spending on youths.
Its no good just complaining about the foreign influx of players if English players were good enough and there was enough of them to pick from then that would solve the problem.
If a proper youth program was instated then it would take about 10-20 years for it to bare fruit…
Anybody got any idea how much Newcastle spends on the youth department?
32 No Plain Saylor // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM
We’re in a far far better position financially than we were in jan 2011 when we had to sell carroll, and having finished 5th largely unexpectedly MA will not rock the boat and sell our stars when we are ao close, just 4 or 5 quality signings away from something amazing. Which is all good for him, ao he might have to cough up an extra 8 million on what he said he would but in the long run it woulmore worth so so much more.
33 No Plain Saylor // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM
* be worth so much more
34 ashwin say's // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:17 PM
after a nice holiday in holland lamearse and co. are set for few transfer finally
35 Big Pappa Cisse // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Would anyone else take Darren bent if.we could get him cheap ?
36 DannyA // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:22 PM
i think by the end ov buisness 2morro we shud know if we have de jong and douglas just a waiting game at the min
where is Transfer Mage and his infinate wisdom or has someone assinated him haha
37 OoAhDembaBa // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Abonglahor
38 Sammy Adamobi // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:24 PM
anyone on here know anything about a new home kit? am bored of trailing the internet trying to find it, surely it would have been released by now?
39 nufc786 // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:27 PM
DoctorZelig
well recently MA wants to spend 20 mill on our academy… so in the past, not that much i guess…. our academy has dropped a level….
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/26/3199826/newcastle-united-braced-for-academy-funding-setback
40 Oldgit1 // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:35 PM
@grump_0ld_sod Get back in your box, it was to inspire conversation, not an excuse to throw insults around.
41 HullMag6 // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:36 PM
Pardiola maybe on r n or networking, is MA about too? Maybe upto a bit of business in that London.
Lets get some deals done gents.
42 DannyboyNUFC // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:37 PM
According to Twitter: Latest on Luuk – #NUFC have had a bid of £11m (€14m) rejected by FC Twente for Luuk de Jong. @tctubvoetbal says #NUFC no longer interested.
43 Big Pappa Cisse // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Never knew so many old people know how to use computers
44 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:38 PM
11M /14M€ bid for de Jong rejected – Dutch media & Twitter
45 Oldgit1 // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Big Pappa Cisse, you would be surprised.
Ed is a good example so dont knock it.
46 scotty17321 // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:41 PM
This is the first window since we returned to prem, Ive had the least worries on any of our top stars leaving we seem to be doing the right things and moving on abit of dead wood and replacing and upgrading with quality
47 Big Pappa Cisse // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:45 PM
@ oldgit
Didn’t say it was a bad thing
48 Dannyo // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:46 PM
If we went as far as £11 mill, then fair play to DL and crew. I’d never think we’d go that far, especially for a 21 year old.
Hope its not true that its been rejected tho, really want this lad in black and white.
49 rich_toonfan // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:48 PM
It’s is true they rejected 14 million I think he will stay. Can’t see any club offering more than that.
If he wants to leave for footballing reasons as his agent ha said and twente keep him it may backfire. Dont know his character but surely that won’t please him if they hang onto him.
Might cause him to sulk and have a bad season driving down his price, twente might have just shot themselves in the foot.
50 Toon1978 // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:49 PM
For Twente to reject an 11 million pound offer is total madness. PURE GREED. Maybe De Jong will get a move to Germany now.
51 DannyA // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:50 PM
completely agree Dannyo im suprised we went that far 4 a 21 year old however pennis really if he is the next best stricker out ov holland since RVP but we all know the toon will have a back up if we dont get our man
BUT id doubt that we wud sell besty wiv out a replacement pretty much through the door i aint listinin 2 nowt unless its verifyed via the club web site!
52 rich_toonfan // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:50 PM
I also don’t know where clubs get these prices from.
Jordi alba just aimed for barca for 14million euros. He had a good season, showing promise like Luuk did and he stood out in te euros.
Some clubs just ask silly money, but can’t knock it too much as we do too.
53 jakesome // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:50 PM
Ahhh can’t take this waiting……all my useage has gone on refreshing pages on the hope of news
54 Oldgit1 // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:55 PM
@ Big Papa cisse. So why say it, abit age_ist.
Dont assume by my title that im old btw, it relates to a number plate of a vehicle that run me over in a hit and run accident. Not serious though.
55 Toonboy_84 // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:57 PM
I wonder who we’ll go for if de jong is too pricey?
56 DannyA // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:58 PM
hopefully we will go 4 Heskey before the mackems snap him up!
57 belgrade fan // Jul 2, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Go and take Gameiro
58 Toon1978 // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:02 PM
Top and bottom of it is, Steve Maclaren does not want either De Jong or Douglas to move to Nufc. Don’t know what that man’s beef is.
59 davybtoon // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:02 PM
Nufc right to pull out of move for de Jong he’s not worth more than that
60 Toonboy_84 // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:04 PM
Lol DannyA.
Maybe scrap the big money striker, and go all out for Adam Johnson from city. Could play either side of a front 3……..just a suggestion
61 Big Pappa Cisse // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:08 PM
Well, lets hope they drop in at Lille on the way back for Debuchy
62 davybtoon // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:10 PM
I don’t believe they’ve rejected our offer, mclaren has no say In it twente want to sell
63 dmac // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:14 PM
Hmm i was positive this morning that it was almost a done deal and now i think we are going to walk away from it. Shame he is an ace player.
64 Dannyo // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:16 PM
@davy
The source is known to be quite reliable and especially about Twente, atleast thats what they say.
I reckon this is it for Luuk, this year
65 davybtoon // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:20 PM
Dannyo n bild had de Jong signed for gladbach yesterday not true, jus go n get ola tiovonen instead
66 Toon1978 // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:20 PM
Was it a dutch news paper that reported that Twente rejected our bid?
67 Tom4Nufc // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Wouldn’t be surprised if DL has leaked to the press we had the bid rejected just to try and get the press away from us- we all know we like the signings to be done quietly!
Keep the hope lads… But I’m the same- it’s bloody frustrating!
68 davybtoon // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:22 PM
Come on ppl think about we’ve been in holland 4 days to make a bid we could of from Newcastle really? I don’t think so there bcoz they can do a deal end of
69 davybtoon // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:24 PM
De Jong not worth 11mill tell them to f off n get someone else
70 2_goal_tino // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:27 PM
You can’t say it is greed from Twente to reject 11million. It is a lot for a 21 year old with a risk and all, but he means a lot more than that to them. He is their talisman, and although not yet world class he certainly has the potential to be. 11 million is probably currently his market value but his potential is much greater. When AC left I heard a lot of people say “35 million is a lot, but he was worth much more to the club.” It’s the same here! 11 million is a good fair offer from us, but if we had a 21 year old potentially world class striker on our hands we’d be furious if it were accepted! We can’t afford to gamble on his potential like Liverpool did, other teams can.
71 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:29 PM
2 goal tino….that’s rational thinking there….you sure you support Newcastle?
72 hoppernufc // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:31 PM
Btw tiovonen and Douglas apparently don’t get on due to an incident last season
73 Sazzer // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM
Newcastle will pick up on a thing or two from Spain’s style of play next season – the main one being possession of the ball.
“We’ll try to improve our possession next year. It’s very difficult but we’re trying.
“In the Premier League, there has been a gear change in recent years from the direct style of play to the more stylish possession type of play.”
Pardew in radio interview.
74 Munster Mag // Jul 2, 2012 at 4:39 PM
As I said this morning, I had a strong feeling Newcastle should make the move to 11K, and fair play to them. Its obvious , as i also said, that NUFC are being spotted a mile off, and the Tiote’s of the world will become rare, and Twente were “once bitten, twice shy” . Sometimes u gotta pay up. Other times you gotta walk. I think its time to walk. We could get two talented strikers for £5 + £6 mill around the world if we look hard enough.
75 Graeme // Jul 2, 2012 at 5:33 PM
Its obvious Pardeau is seriously worried about the transfer situation – he’s currently enjoying Wimbledon lol
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