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Ben Arfa And Three Other French Players In The Dock

2:38 pm, Tuesday, July 3rd, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 86 Comments

Reports are coming through that Samir Nasri, Hatem Ben Arfa, Jeremy Menez and Yann M’Vila will be called before the French Football Federation disciplinary committee.


They will face charges brought for a variety of offences that were  committed during the Euro 2012 tournament in Poland and Ukraine, when France lost in the quarter-final to Spain, the eventual winners.

And this is the second tournament in a row where French players have been charged with disciplinary issues.

Nasri  probably faces the most serious charge, after he argued with a journalist and used foul language after the Les Bleus’ defeat by Spain, by the score of 2-0.

Menez allegedly gestured towards his own goalkeeper and captain Hugo Lloris, Rennes midfielder M’Vila reacted to his substitution by refusing to shake hands with manager Laurent Blanc, and Ben Arfa was involved in a dressing room argument with the manager after the 2-0 defeat by France.

FFF President Noel Le Graet confirmed that there would be no bonuses paid out to their players:

“This money is blocked, which may be redistributed, perhaps not.” “I don’t like to punish by nature and I don’t like to deliver a hasty opinion, but our players should be punished or sanctioned.

“I don’t want them thinking they are victims. They are not.”

Of course the French players would have given their bonus money to charities, which is now customary, so it’s not like they are losing that money – the charities  are.

We’re not sure it’s a good thing that France are being so open with the way they punish their stars – since the events were nowhere near as serious as those that happened during the World Cup in South Africa.

Couldn’t the FFF have done it in a more low key way – rather than have the news broadcast around the world?   It was bad enough two years ago.

Laurent Blanc has since left the job as France manager, but he did a very good job in bringing  France back from their disastrous World Cup two years ago.

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86 responses so far ↓

  • 1 G // Jul 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    Missleading headline, I thought they might have ‘Done a Ribbery’ or something?

  • 2 WWYCD // Jul 3, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    Hes reformed damnit why cant people just accept it?!

  • 3 jakesome // Jul 3, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528818_321243011300556_1571060556_n.jpg

  • 4 jakesome // Jul 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/341/620/a9c.gif

  • 5 niafron // Jul 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    Bonsoir messieurs.

    The Ben arfa’s specialsit is in da place! Do anyone got a question?

    Ahah!

  • 6 Toonboy_84 // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    Hi niafron.

    What is the opinion of this article in France? Are these players public enemy?

  • 7 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    Pardew will spin it into a positive to motivate him.
    “Make it impossible for them not to pick you”.

    Can’t wait for the season to start.

  • 8 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Good afternoon Niafron. Hope your summer is going well :)

    So Benny boy is in trouble for not confronting Blanc in the dressing room? Besides taking money that was likely en route to a charity, what sort of punishment could he face?

  • 9 davybtoon // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    anyone seen the pics of players in training

  • 10 G // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    @ davybtoon. I thought training didn’t start till Thursday?

  • 11 rich // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    Jacob Butterfield, formerly linked with NUFC signs for Norwich

  • 12 nufc786 // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18671872
    remember jacob butterfield well hoots has got him……..

  • 13 nufc786 // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:17 PM

    rich
    you beat me……..

  • 14 rich // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    Sorry nufc786

    It does seem as though we’re missing out on a few “media linked” players!

  • 15 christoon5369 // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    m’villa bit seems harsh, does the Spain manager not receive disciplinary action for not shaking the players hands?

    ibizatoon – usually they ban them, think I remember evra getting banned for a few games?

  • 16 niafron // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    Well, this is simple, before the tournament, people satisfaction rate about the national team was of 56% .

    Now, this is 17%.

    This is a witch hunt, scapegoats are needed.

    Honnestly, this is unreal, no one talk of technicals or physicals problem. Nothing football related.

    Even the politics took their part. THis only about morality, and to be honnest, we speak only of “les racailles”. How to explain you these words?

    A “racaille” is a bad guy, a scum, but in this particular context, it apply to the lads of the poor suburbs, who are generaly of foreign origin.

    The players are charged for having bad behaviors, but even much more, people say they do not like the national team and the shirt.

    Due to their origins, this far beyond football, this is a political problem in France.

    Don’t know what they risk. Nothing serious i guess (except maybe Nasri), but beside that, i think it will need alot of time, if it ever happen, before they wear the blue Jersey again.

  • 17 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:32 PM

    Niafron….Sounds like a right mess. I suppose it has nothing to do with the management of these players?

    Pardew for the next France manager? :)

  • 18 Toonboy_84 // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    So you think there is a chance the may not play for France again in the near future?

  • 19 niafron // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    Don’t kid with that Ibizatoon, Deschamps who was the last serious contender for the job is said to have decline the offer.

    So we just have no one.

    In fact, this is the whole french football who is collapsing.

  • 20 niafron // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    Toonboy 84.

    Yes. Will depend of the next french manager. If this is Deschamps, Bény will probably not play for a while…

  • 21 Tom4Nufc // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    Le problem avec France is that they are like Holland, just not as bad… Half of them play for themselves, not for the shirt or the country- Nasri being the prime candidate for this criticism. Look at Benzema?! Uninterested all tournament as well!

    I don’t mind Hatem causing a bit of a fuss for being taken off… At the end of the day it show’s he genuinely cares about his country and has passion, he just needs to learn to channel it on the pitch!

  • 22 Toonboy_84 // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    Shame because it clearly means a lot to him, playing for his country.

  • 23 niafron // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    So you see, i need good news, so please, tell me Messi and Ronaldo will both sign for the Toon!

  • 24 G // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    @ naifron, Messi and Ronaldo are both signing for the toon. Unfortunately the Messi is the ‘Mr Messy’ from the Rodger Hargreaves book, and the Ronaldo is the fat one from Brazil who was good a decade ago.

  • 25 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    I hate to say it but Spurs will be good next season. I personally like AVB and felt sorry for him when he got sacked. All he needs to do is sell Modric and buy Moutinho (who is much better IMO) and he’d still have money left. And if the 70m rumours are true – they could very well finish high in the league and possibly win the Europa league.

  • 26 niafron // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    Tom4

    Well, they play for the shirt and the team, but they are all sure they are the only one who can save the day.

    So they try very difficult things all the time. Furthermore, after the game against Sweden, it was obvious something was going wrong inside the dressing room.

    They just broke as a team. Difficult to know why today, for many people involved (including Hatem) have said nothing about it until now.

  • 27 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:47 PM

    No need to fear. At the rate Newcastle is going, we will have the next french team, or atleast a good portion of it playing for us. It will be like Spain, players used to playing with one another (Xavi, Iniesta etc) As opposed to players from multiple teams/leagues.

  • 28 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM

    Niafron….I didn’t hear Deschamps was rumoured to have turned the job down….a bit worrying.

    Not so much great news this end….but I suppose no news is good news???

    Keep your head up mate, France have some extremely talented players and I expect them to be able to sort themselves out eventually. It could be worse, you could be English! :)

  • 29 gonz // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    It definitely looks like Ben Arfa loves playing for his country, he doesn’t know any different since practically being raised by the FFF.
    It is a shame he’ll be called up to the committee for showing passion, and even more shameful if Deschamps comes in and becomes the next French manager and doesn’t wipe all the slates clean of any wrong doings from the past and manages based on footballing reasons.
    (Kind of like the fact Psycho had the balls and made a footballing decision when it came to selecting Becks) Because if it’s footballing reasons then HBA should start every game.
    Against the Swedes he seemed to be the only one trying to score and make an impact on the game, Nasri did not want to give him the ball and Ribery runs around with a chip on his shoulder instead of showing what he is capable of doing on the pitch and just play good football.
    I just can’t wait to see him play again for us next season.

  • 30 jesperfuglsang // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    AVB new Spurs manager; has that been mention?

    …I have been at the beach so hasn’t paid attention to the blog the last few hours :-)

    Any news?

  • 31 niafron // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM

    G

    Just took a look on this Mr Messy. Well this is a head with two feet. So he got only parts who are able to hit the ball hard, i want him in my team.

    And about the fat Ronaldo, we just need to have him eating english food for three month, and he will be the lightning speed runing player he was again.

  • 32 ROSHAN MAGPIE // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    just found out that my cousin s husband is a mackem supporter having a field day to irritate him

  • 33 Ben3arfa // Jul 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    Guess we didnt follow up our interest in butterfield, what a shame

  • 34 jakesome // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    was butterfield a free?

  • 35 rich_toonfan // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    Don’t worry niafron

    Your players may not get on and play well for France but at least you know if they get past that they coul play well.

    Here in England we are set for year or boring, defensive football. We might get one step further but it will be painful to watch.

  • 36 rich_toonfan // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    AVB is a strange one.

    He just need experience. He did well with Porto and tried to apply this tactics to a different set of players who couldn’t do it or didn’t want to do it. He played a high line with a slow defence. Something we did a couple times and regretted.

    I reckon he will learn and develop a system that beat suits his current players at spurs and hopefully he has worked on his man management, that was meant to be poor. But then again I couldn’t be too nice to John terry.

  • 37 ToonAndy // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:17 PM

    When’s the Europa draw??

  • 38 ashwin say's // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:24 PM

    who are mackems ???
    I only remember them the group whom we smashed 6goals and cos of raylor over the wall goal

  • 39 Partizan // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM

    Comment 24…Moutinho better than Modric?!
    Mate let me tell you something,,we can all talk what we want and think what we want but when it comes to reality then Moutinho is at least 1 class bellow Modric,who imo is one of the rare classic playmakers in the world.

  • 40 Twatter // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:29 PM

    Modric is so overrated, come on. His last season was nothing spectacular, Spurs fans will tell you that themselves.

  • 41 Geordie-Jake // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7862339/ Hands off scum

  • 42 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:33 PM

    I’m sure he’s a talented guy, but I too don’t rate Modric that highly. I’d rather Yo and Tiote all day every day (and that’s solely based on football, not dreamboats dreamy eyes :) )

  • 43 Geordie-Jake // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:35 PM

    Modric looks like a pigeon

  • 44 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:40 PM

    @Geordie-Jake.

    They are probably offering to fly him over here, Just like they did we Cisse. That’s all.

  • 45 Big Pappa Cisse // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:41 PM

    I would have said he looks more like a rat tbh like

  • 46 ~Perchinho the Pheonix~ // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:42 PM

    And anyway, at that price. No thanks. 10-12mill for Anita? Nah.

    Bring in
    Douglas
    Debuchy
    Corgnet
    Mulumbu
    And any 1 or 2 of these 3. Toivonen / Gudietti (Man city lad) / Costoignos

  • 47 Geordie-Jake // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:45 PM

    Would love to get Castaignos

  • 48 Valci // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:51 PM

    Sorry for the off topic wanted to reply from the previous Benny thread.

    No Plain Saylor // Jul 3, 2012 at 1:56 PM

    Whoever thinks toivonen would be a better signing than gamiero at the same price I just dobt know… losing my faith in humanity :(
    ———–
    Gameiro is a classic example of talent wasted. In this case it wasn’t something as insidious as alcohol or drugs…it was the lure of money. Look where it got him now. Besides… 1,72m in height… cant fight defenders inside the box to save his life. Not every tiny player can be Messi. In my opinion a true striker (not “false 9″ mind you) should be at leat 1,80m ++ … preferably towards 1,90. Call me old fashioned but thats what i personally prefer.

    LGFUAD21 // Jul 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    Perchino and Valci

    Who remembers Freddy Adu the “next pele”?
    ———
    A classic example of an overrated player which, while talented never made it in any top league. People should look up these examples before getting all “hyper” over the “next big star”.

    Again…sorry for the off topic just wanted to answer.

  • 49 niafron // Jul 3, 2012 at 4:52 PM

    Against Spain, was really impressed by what Modric did. He was the soul of Croatia.

  • 50 Rotonda heights // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:03 PM

    Valci

    We get it. You obviously don’t appreciate a winning team like Spain, where you don’t need a great big static lumbering target man, when the ball is passed intelligently to feet in a ”total football” concept where the left back is as good a finisher as a would be striker.

  • 51 Rotonda heights // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:05 PM

    Very depressing that hodgson has said there is no way we will try to play like Spain and that the ”old guard” are still important to him. What a joke.

  • 52 DannyA // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM

    i see sum 1 let Barnetta out the locked cupbourd in the hotel then lol
    and im becoming to get frustrated about this whole De Jong and Douglas saga now why the hell did the chuckle brothers go all the way 2 holland and come back empty handed and look silly in front ov all toon fans they must be more to this story

    i swear if the only thing we have wrapped up is a friendly against den haag or wat eva there name is i will go mental chicken oriantal lol!!

  • 53 niafron // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM

    Got to go lads.

    Bonne soirée messieurs.

  • 54 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM

    Goodbye Niafron…Enjoy the circus!

  • 55 lesh // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:17 PM

    G // Jul 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    Missleading headline, (G @1) suggesting they might’ve have ‘Done a Ribbery’…. given Arfa chance, that may have been so!!

  • 56 ToonDownSouth // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    Rotonda

    Do you seriously think that we could just ‘try to play like Spain’ ? Do you not understand that it’s far more complicated than that?

    The problem lies in the roots of English football – not with what Hodgson does in the 4 weeks of training every year.

    It’s about bringing players up in a culture where passing and technical ability is appreciated – and that cannot change over night. There will be no solution until 12 year old kids are encouraged to take their time, think, and enjoy the game, rather than lumping it up to the big man purely because it’s an easy way to win at that level.

  • 57 Ollieh51 // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:25 PM

    Ha!

    Does anyone reckon there’s a chance of Pardew being approached for the French managerial position now that he’s shown how well he can manage them?!

  • 58 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    It’s been a terrible day for us today. Possibly missing out on both De Jong and Anita. Want to see at least two players signed by Friday. We need to prepare for our Europa cup qualifying stage and need to act quickly in the transfer market. We’re always slow off the mark. Arsenal have signed Giroud and Podolski already.

  • 59 ToonDownSouth // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    Ketsbaia

    Last year we had 3 players signed by the start of July, so that’s hardly true.

  • 60 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    Yeah, but in the majority of transfer windows, we leave things until the last minute.

  • 61 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    Ketsbaia….The club can only do what they can do.

    On what grounds have we missed out on Anita? It’s been “reported” the scum are interested, doesn’t really mean anything. If they are in fact interested and want to pay over the odds for him, let them, we’ll find an alternative.

    Chill out man, the window has been open 3 days, still 59 days to go.

    We have a team “capable” of getting through our qualifier and that is what Alan Pardew will / should be concentrating on. Mike and Del will continue to work on bringing in new players

  • 62 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    Wasn’t it only Santon and Elliot who came in late recently?

    Or are you referring to a longer period of time? If so, wouldn’t you agree that we conduct ourselves a little differently these days?

  • 63 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    We failed in late bids for Bryan Ruiz and Mariappa etc.

  • 64 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Ahhh…failed in bids! Well, the end result wasn’t exactly a disaster, was it?

    I think the club are being really smart tbh. Back in the day, we would just cough up what ever the selling club wanted and it cost us ridiculous money.

    Have some faith

  • 65 HullMag6 // Jul 3, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Adam Johnson if he can take a pay cut, play either wing with hba. play spain/barca style passing posession football only need 1 striker at best that way. Get a couple of youngsters in.
    Its a repost but does anyone else think its worth a try.

  • 66 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    Ketsbia how is it the clubs fault if bids our rejected? Ruiz was a panic to replace carroll and marriapa wasnt a late bid we had 3 bids rejected throughout the window and refused to pay any more for a championship player the club conducts fantastic buisness and i doubt there about to start bieng held to ransom for players

  • 67 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    Plus Ketsbaia…if we did get Ruiz, it’s unlikely we’d now have Cisse. Everything happens for a reason and all that

  • 68 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    HullMag…I like Johnson, just don’t see it happening

  • 69 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Also agree with a few of the other bloggers that gameiro is starting to look like a good choice IF the club are still intrested but we still desperatly need a cb

  • 70 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Kets

    Though I really do like Ruiz and think he’ll prove a good buy over the next year or so, he has taken time to settle, got a bad injury and has yet to adapt fully to the EPL. Glad we “failed” with him.

    Be patient…it’s only early July. Chess and poker both take time.

  • 71 Twatter // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    Think Adam Johnson would cost too much in transfer fee and also his wages are probably ridiculous due to being at Citeh. I would love to see him here but he’s probably a more realistic match for Liverpool or the mackems.

  • 72 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    http://www.maxifoot.fr/football/article-16010.htm

    Hopefully we”ll sign this bloke.

  • 73 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    Isnt adam johnson on like £80k a week?

  • 74 ToonMauritius // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    No more comments lads, everyone abandon ship

  • 75 ToonMauritius // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:33 PM

    I’m burning with fever, but still awaiting for any new nufc signing

  • 76 scubydu // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    NEED A NEW SIGNING TO REPLACE BEST ON THE BANNER !

  • 77 Toon1978 // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM

    Waiting for NUFC to sign someone is like waiting for a bus. You wait for bloody ages and then 2 come along at once. BLOODY TEDIOUS lol :)

  • 78 davybtoon // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    dont kno why its not being talked about but seems were on the verge of signing douglas n debuchy, reports from holland n a few british articles claim douglas has agreed 4year deal with us, n the chronicle is claiming debuchy could b signed within a matter of days

    http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/904039-luuk-de-jongs-newcastle-move-stalls-but-douglas-edges-closer-to-toon

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/07/03/newcastle-united-remain-hopeful-on-mathieu-debuchy-deal-72703-31315468/

    http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120703/newcastle-close-brazilian-star-175764

  • 79 Valci // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    @ Rotonda heights

    I don’t appreciate the way Spain played in any game except the final. It was boring. Side passes and back passes … no penetration what so ever. Italy showed in the group that they could handle them just had an off day in the final and even Croatia was very unlucky not to beat spain. Spain’s problem at the Euros was that they dont have Messi and Villa was also out.
    Also, your comment seems rather narrow minded. Ibra is a target man – tall, powerfull with pace and technique…nothing you would call lumbering. Plays well on crosses and on the ground too. A powerfull forward can lay balls of for the 2nd striker or offensive midfielders. That’s the kind i appreciate to be clear.

  • 80 davybtoon // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM

    seems were close to getting douglas n debuchy

  • 81 MT // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

    the deal is too trouble for De Jong & Douglas, just waste the time. for now we need at least two strikers

    FW : Gudietti + Van Wolfswinkel/Costoignos/Sigþórsson

  • 82 Hencha Boii // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

    According to SS Sunderland are also after Anita…? Good luck ya Mackem B@stards!

  • 83 ToonDownSouth // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    davy

    That Chronicle article is awful. It’s an article which says absolutely nothing.

    The title says “Newcastle remain hopeful”, the leading paragraph then basically says that we will ‘try’ and make progress at some point soon. The article itself then gets less and less assertive.

  • 84 davybtoon // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    haha scum will never get anita

  • 85 davybtoon // Jul 3, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    tds haha i hate the chronicle as i think ryder as no info whatsever but am trying to bring some hope of a signing to the blog, bcoz ppl will start slitting their wrists soon i mean the window has been open 3days n we aint signed anyone ha

  • 86 magpie6699 // Jul 3, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    It seems some people are getting really tense because this name or that name may not be signing for us. I am (strangely) quite laid back – I believe we will do ok eventually, particularly if we can hang onto our blue-chip brigade. If Twente want to play SBs it won’t be with us.
    I’m also interested to see how Sylvain, Haris, Fergie, Alfie etc can step up this season as well.




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