Good News For Newcastle At CAN


The African Cup of Nations, officially CAN (which is French for Coupe d’Afrique des Nations), will take place in South Africa starting in January, and that will be the 4th tournament in just over five years.

The African Cup of Nations

The CAN  has taken place in 2008, 2010 and 2012, and will also take place next year, because they are changing the tournament to odd years, but it’s still going to be every two years, while other major football regions have their tournaments every four years – as in Europe.

We are late on this news, because of some of the transfer news breaking yesterday, but Senegal have been drawn against the  Ivory Coast in a two-legged play-off tie, with the winner getting a place in January’s tournament.

That means we’ll either lose Papiss Cisse or Demba Ba for the CAN, or Cheick Tiote, but not all three – and since the Ivory Coast are big favorites to win the whole thing in early February, they are favored to win the play-off two legged tie.

The Ivory Coast lost the final this year to Zambia, but only after it went to extra time and a long, long penalty shoot out, and you can watch the videos here – and Cheick Tiote scored the first penalty taken – of course – but it goes on and one…..

And if the Ivory Coast get through to the finals, it means Newcastle will only be losing Cheick Tiote to the CAN, and Papiss Cisse and Demba Ba can keep smashing those goals in for Newcastle.

Maybe Mehdi Abeid or new boy Gael Bigirimana can come in and deputize for Tiote, or maybe we’ll have Ajax player Vurnon Anita on board at the club by then.

That’s good news for Newcastle, and the next CAN will not be until 2015, which is more good news.

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123 comments so far

  • cupiddstunt

    Jul 7, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #1

    It certainly is good new that we will be keeping one half of the clash

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  • cupiddstunt

    Jul 7, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #2

    sorry missed an “s” of new last night5s rum still having an effect possibly 🙂 🙂

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  • yorkshireToon

    Jul 7, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #3

    Cupiddstunt – from a couple of threads ago. I don’t think it is that wild a theory at all seen as we were ok in January not buying mariappa I honestly think Newcastle (maybe not pardew) would be happy to go ahead with shola, ba and cisse this season knowing they will be here all season

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  • Robby Bobson

    Jul 7, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #4

    Hasnt ba been out of the squad anyway?

    Who i want to win will depend on how well gosling amalfitano birifmina or marveuax step up and can fill in for tiote

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  • cupiddstunt

    Jul 7, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #5

    I can understand the way the ACON has been run to have four comps in the last five years instead of missing a year to bring things into line and it is mostly to do with money generation.

    Although a good argument can be made for the political benefits of the comp, but I do think that it’s just more to do with the money and profile .

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  • HullMag6

    Jul 7, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #6

    Good news re ACON, Sorry to re post but need to gauge opinion.

    Get guidetti, toivanen and maybe look at larsson from the unwashed. in a midfield 3 with tiote and cabaye, he could chip on with a goal or 3. Worth a thought.

    Probably all 3 for less than de jong. we looked at larsson when he was at brum didn’t we.

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  • Robby Bobson

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #7

    You like swedes dont you?

    Larsson wouldnt be that cheap at all..

    should just get gameiro!

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  • sweendog

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #8

    no wonder we couldn’t get de jong we’re negotiating with munsters
    Joop Munsterman is the chairman of Twente .. negotiations were doomed from the start..

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  • HullMag6

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #9

    I like anyone whos interested in coming, we’re due some scandanavian talent. especially after…..
    andreas andersson.

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  • HullMag6

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #10

    I like anyone whos interested in coming, we’re due some scandanavian talent. especially after…..
    andreas andersson.

    a habit i got on champ. manager/fifa sign a few players from same country helps their morale.

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  • Robby Bobson

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #11

    Olsson from blackburn is the swede i would like

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  • cupiddstunt

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #12

    yorkshireToon @ # 3

    that is of course that we were seriously in for Mariappa.

    Personally I do not believe we were.

    I for one feel that we build our wish list and set a max purchase price for all our targets, we then set about going for them.

    When we miss out on the primary target we just cut loose and move on to the second choice and so on and so forth.

    Of course there has to be a point that we would be “happy to go ahead with” what we have and I for one am happy that we no longer desperately chase signing just for the fact of getting a body in.

    I am more than happy to know that when Twente bumped the price we did not go chasing, and if we can’t get the targets at prices we are happy with then we will not bring in bodies just for the sake of it.

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  • ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #13

    Does anyone think PSV would sell that Jetro Willems better potential than pieters and aly cissokko and surely cheaper??
    Also does anyone know much about Jamaal Lascelles of nottingham Forest, seems to be a strong young english center back??

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  • Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem)

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #14

    Why would the Mackems sell to us??
    Toivenen seems a bit old to me – would rather get someone much younger.
    A raid on PSG would be great; Matuidi, Gameiro and Sakho would make our team unbelievable!

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  • JDdubai

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #15

    Don’t think we need a centre forward, it’s a creative winger we need. If HBA gets injured who do we have????

    Don’t say Jonas as he isn’t the same league, marveaux has to get through more than 8 games a season before he can be relied upon, which leaves…………

    We have no creative back up for HBA, shud have Hoilett and then look for some exciting creative dribbling youths to act as back up.

    Ba is Cisse’s reserve as CF, if we got guidetti, where would he play? Not wide left, and not be first choice CF either and he doesn’t want to be a reserve for city so why come here?

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  • HullMag6

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #16

    Shame olsson couldnt have been part of the best deal

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  • sks_toon

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #17

    COME ON IVORY COAST!!

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  • sks_toon

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #18

    @JDdubai

    My neighbor in the UAE, I think we should sign Brahimi, the same sort of player as HBA, younger and cheaper than the other options but he can be deadly someday if used correctly.

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  • cupiddstunt

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #19

    ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON @ # 13

    Such a poor name choice, taking into consideration what the England team have achieved post 1966.

    So do you want NUFC to languish in no better than mid table as that is just where we would be with an English team in fact even with the England squad I doubt we would be no better than mid table.

    Or are you just being small mindedly bigoted?

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #20

    I was watching the CAN – lets call it that now – earlier this year and it was dreadful 🙁 now I do understand every footballer wants to represent his country and rightly so.

    But, as Ed pointed out the CAN is the only major tournament that takes place during the major leagues and not in the players holiday.

    With more and more African’s – if not most of them that participate in the CAN playing in the major leagues in Europe, maybe they should consider that in the future.

    It is a money’s game and a game for the spectators – without them there will be no CAN or any other tournaments for that matter.

    Another ting it takes up too much time; the European Championship or the World Cup takes place over 14 days or so. It is more respectful to the players and their families and more respectful to their individual clubs.

    I am probably going to get slags for this from some of you. It is just an opinion feel free to share yours 🙂

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  • yorkshireToon

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #21

    Cupiddstunt I agree with everything your saI’d there tbh just assuming Senegal dont beat ivory coast which I can’t see, I don’t think we are In desperate need of a striker I think we should rotate ba and cisse and are main area we need to strengthen is defence

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  • Beardo

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #22

    Who’s up for a Xisco disco?

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  • ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #23

    cupiddstunt – as it stands with simpson leaving? We will have 1 British man in our starting 11 (steven Taylor) there is plenty of English talent out there and yes many are overpriced but its clubs like Nufc and arsenal that stunt our national teams progression, not saying i want 11 englishmen starting but would be nice to see homegrown talent integrated with the continental talents???

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #24

    Beardo

    probably Xisco 😉

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #25

    ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON

    “but its clubs like Nufc and arsenal that stunt our national teams progression”

    How is that I might ask? If a player is neither good enough and at the same time way too expensive, how can you blame the likes of NUFC or Arsenal?

    It’s the young players of Britain who has been brought up to believe they are all world beaters and they can demand silly money.

    Football in England has gone mad over the last 10 years; way too much money involved and everyone wants a slice of the cake.

    See how well you’re doing at the EC or the WC; I actually think you did well this year and not that Denmark is any better. But you get my point…I hope 😉

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #26

    ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON

    “but its clubs like Nufc and arsenal that stunt our national teams progression”

    Bollocks! Do you think Pardew & Wenger are saying “Get me 3 good young French players” ??

    No! They’re saying “Get me 3 good young players”.

    Where do you think the budget to sign all these Englishmen would come from? Have you seen the prices paid over recent seasons? One Englishman worthy of our starting 11 would likely cost £10m +, atleast!

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  • Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem)

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #27

    We seriously need to sort out our youth academy. We lost the likes of Adam Johnson because our’s isn’t up to scratch – heck even ‘Boro have a better one!

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  • HullMag6

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #28

    English,
    That’s the short term drawback, hopefully the academy will develop what you/we would like to see.

    We need to achieve/maintain a certain standard now in the most cost efficient way the majority of british talent is overpriced

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  • cupiddstunt

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #29

    ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON @ # 23

    Personally I think the problem of poor English players is far deeper rooted than just clubs like NUFC and arse buying foreign players hence stunting the English players development.

    Look at the number and quality of coaches at grass root level and you will see that we are far far behind other countries in developing the game.

    That aside English players are over the whole sub-standard so as I asked before do you really want to have NUFC little better than mid table and that is assuming that we buy the England squad to play for NUFC, or is your nom de plume intended to be somewhat bigoted as it clearly contradicts your current post?

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  • Dondatta13

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #30

    sks_toon @ 18…

    Im with you, Brahimi would be my choice 😉

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  • rich_toonfan

    Jul 7, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #31

    The problem that stunts our national team is the fault of every club side.

    Kids are selected for pace, height and strength as oppose to technical ability. Clubs are changing their attitudes now but the problem is English coaches and academies until very recently have been picking players for the wrong reasons.

    And the blame Being placed on Newcastle and arsenal is utter tripe.

    During the 70s and 80s the league was made up of mainly British players and England were still terrible then.

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  • Dannyo

    Jul 7, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #32

    @English players 4 toon
    British players suck mate, atleast the majority of them. Not many of them possesses technical ability like HBA, Collo, Gutti etc.
    That’s where football is headed, problem is, England are stuck 20 years behind.
    Time to move on.

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  • Beattie25

    Jul 7, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #33

    The fault lies with people like Keegan who wanted to buy the best players rather than concentrate of bringing them through!

    Newcastle are in transition on have lots of British 16 year olds pushing and they’ll be playing in 4-5 years. For the moment I couldn’t care if they were all from mars if it brought us 3 points on a Sunday.

    Keegans vision was the reason we missed out on Carrick, some goon before missed out on Shearer and we are trying to buck that trend.

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  • rich_toonfan

    Jul 7, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #34

    I do agree we need more players coming through the academy, whether they are English, British, European or from anywhere in the world is irrelevant.

    But it is important that we don’t miss out on local kids who could move up through the ranks. The problem is if the local lads aren’t there, there is nothin that can be done.

    Hopefully the club can improve its academy and get that level one status so we can have a top youth set up. Would love us to bring in some continental coaches to work with ours for the whole of the youth set up.

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  • cupiddstunt

    Jul 7, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #35

    rich_toonfan @ # 31

    You have a little something there if you read the “statement” from our latest signing.

    He went to Coventry asking for permission to train with their youth and was told that was not how it was done he had to be scouted in order to be in with a chance of getting in.

    They then shouted after him when they seen how fast he was when he jogged of back home.

    In reality they should have said something like come on such and such a day (his age group) and we will see what you can do.

    What would have happened had the lad just got into a car or walked to the local bus stop to head off home.

    Too rigid and too blinkered a youth system in this country.

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  • petesull

    Jul 7, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #36

    I might get slated for this but how about park from united…… Looks like he’s available….. I know he’s old but he never gives up and he can play anywhere along the midfield…… Good squad player…… Just always liked him for man u

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  • Toon_Tom

    Jul 7, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #37

    petesull – Park is now at QPR mate :/

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  • Novocastrian66

    Jul 7, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #38

    cupiddstunt is correct. The lack of English talent is due to a lack of investment in grassroots football.
    There is investment going into accadamies but this is for the elite young players.
    Young players form the age of six are not learning to play the modern game.
    Try teaching a six year old to pass and develop close control when their formative years are spent playing and training on paddy fields.
    By the time English players are recruited into acadamies they are already miles behing their continental couterparts.
    We need to upgrade training facilities across the country, so young players are developing ball skills from the first day the pick up a ball. Not playing catch up when they are 14 / 15. This will only come with massive investment.
    St George’s Park is window dressing, a token effort by the F.A.

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  • rich_toonfan

    Jul 7, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #39

    Park has already joined qpr.

    He is a player who works hard but has a very indifferent end product. We have a couple players like that already, we need to bring in quality now.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Jul 7, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #40

    Said it before and people shot me down. But if its a creative dribbling player you want to add then Adel Taraabt would probably be cheap as chips. Yes he has a rep for being a tool but so did HBA. Have faith in Pards man management. It not hard to be a tool under Neil Warnock.

    Im not convinced by De Jong at that price at all. ANd im just flat out not convinced by Guidetti but a bunch of Dutch people have given glowing reviews (even rival fans) think he’d be too expensive personally.

    Forwards wise for me it has to be Hoilett, Gameiro, Toivonen (horribly underrated on this blog) or the best prospect Luc Castaignos (who is heavily linked with Everton so I’m sure we could get him)

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