Chances Of Newcastle Signing Hoilett May Be Receding


It seems to be a three club race for Blackburn winger Junior Hoilett, and although the news is that Borussia Monchengladbach had withdrawn from the race, news today that the Canadian is flying to Germany for talks with the German club.

David “Junior” Hoilett – flying to Germany for talks

We don’t feel too confident that if it’s left to which club offers Hoilett the most, that Newcastle will win this race to sign the impressive young winger come striker.

Certainly QPR, who are the other English club in with a big interest in the player, will likely offer  the 22 year-old a big wage to entice him to the club, with manager Mark Hughes desperate to improve the QPR squad, so they don’t fight relegation again this coming season.

If the recent news is to be believed, then Hoilett has already discussed terms with both QPR and Newcastle United, and he previously discussed a move with Burussia Monchengladbach.

There’s no news of what compensation the signing club will be willing to pay to Blackburn Rovers for the 22 year-old, whose contract ran out on July 1st, but since he’s under 24, his club are due compensation.

The amount is usually agreed between the two clubs, but if there’s disagreement it will be sent to an independent arbitration board, who will set the amount.

We think the chances of Newcastle signing the 22 year-old are receding with this news, and the rumors that that QPR  say they have already  beaten Newcastle in the race for the young Canadian, who was born in Brampton, Ontario.

What do you think?

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326 comments so far

  • WWYCD

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #1

    NUFC are in Germany at the moment 😉

    I think he has found out the offers in England and is now going to find out the offers in Germany then he will make up his mind

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  • Toon_Tom

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #2

    wwycd – my thoughts exactly – off to meet his new team mates in Germany and give the return ticket to Simo 😉

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #3

    Gotta say aswell, Douglas is a fantastic defender! He was very good when twente were in the champions league, rarely makes mistakes, his only problem is hes a bit hot headed, very strong in the challenge but to be fair a few of his red cards have come from tackles that wouldn’t have even been fouls in the premier league! Also, hes widely regarded as the best centre half in eiriedivisie, which is a football playing league, he’s good with the ball at his feet and also strong in playing the ball out of defends! As far as loyalty goes, he turned down moves to Liverpool and Italian clubs in the past years to stay at twente, his move comes from wanting to play at a higher level as he’s developed all he can at twente!

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  • Toonboy_84

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #4

    Does anybody know about hoilett’s attitude? Apparently he can be a bit of a nob. I don’t know myself, just what I heard.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #5

    WWYCD

    I’d rather he stayed too – I think he’s a good player – but it’s just not going to happen is it.

    wayne

    Well said. I’ve wanted to say the same thing all morning.

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  • Tooooon

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #6

    Don’t really care if we get him or not. If he chooses QPR over us then I’ll laugh at his face.

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  • joe

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #7

    All 3 clubs are good moves for him to be honest. I would choose QPR if i were him not for the money but for the fact that I’d get to play week in week out and he’d probably be their best player there. At 22 he needs that for his development. On the other hand he’d be playing European competition with us and Burussia at a higher level surrounded by better players and that would help with his development too.

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  • WWYCD

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #8

    Toon_Tom
    U never know haha

    TDS
    Could of said the same thing about Mr Newcastle not so long ago

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  • Beattie25

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #9

    Toonboy

    He is a ben Arfa type player. Some Say arrogance others supreme confidence.

    Either way I’d rather he play for us than against.

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  • Bloody Marveauxlous

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #10

    On another note, does anyone have any links for the match tonight>

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  • LGFUAD21

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #11

    Number of points today lads.

    Firstly anyone know if Lille are reportedly close to signing a RB. Once certainty we have in the Debuchy saga is that Lille will only sell when they have replaced (from the horses mouth).

    Secondly Hoilett. Would love to have him but he seems a bit of a mercenary atm. If he chooses QPR over us then he clearly shows he has the wrong priorities for a guy so early in his career.

    Thirdly, I would be very disappointed if we swapped Santon with Roma. We dont really need a winger (not desperately anyway) and Santon has shown great signs of improvement over the season and huge potential. We need to keep these sort of players here for the future.

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  • Beattie25

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #12

    Joe got to disagree mate

    How can being 22 and the best player at a club be good for development?

    He needs to be pushed, play with quality to maximise his potential and stop him becoming a mercenary.

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  • Toon_Tom

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #13

    LGFAUD21 – Bosingwa apparently

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  • Beattie25

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #14

    Bloody

    it was a good team and I think it could do well but we could do even better this window then even the most optimistic of us could ever believe.

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  • PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa)

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #15

    Lgfuad21 yes lille are signing bosingwa

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #16

    joe

    Got to agree with Beattie here – he was already the best player at Blackburn. If that’s important, stay and help them return to the Prem!

    Bloody Marveauxlous

    I really really doubt a friendly against a German minnow will be broadcast mate 😀 I’m hoping nufc.co.uk will have radio coverage, but that seems very unlikely given the location 🙁

    WWYCD

    If you mean Colo, that’s a little different no? I’m not convinced that the club are doing everything they can to keep Simpson, because I’m not sure they’re desperate to.

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  • rainrix

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #17

    @Toonboy 84 : I’m pretty sure he started on raylor last season for some reason can’t remember why. Also he taunted SJP when he scored against us last season at home. So yeah a bit of a nob is a fair assumption

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  • rainrix

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #18

    That being said i’d have him regardless

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  • TorqToon

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #19

    Been reading what Lee Ryder has been tweeting. He is at our training camp in Germany and is highly impressed with Gael! Heck of a strike on him apparently and set for debut tonight. Also simmo is training and not having talks with reading, Cissé is flying, marv and tayls on fitness…and ranger sat at home!

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  • SupaToonKid

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #20

    Nah QPR are out of this race! Hoilett has come to listen to NUFC & Gladbach in Germany so he can finalise a deal with one. I would love it if by Monday Pardew in the German training Camp with Hoilett & Debuchy on either side of him with NUFC shirts.

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  • cyprus

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #21

    Ed,
    looking back at your posts, the salary difference which you say is about the same as what we offer for simpson is about 300,000 a year difference, which is sizable. A mansion a year, Cyprus houses…

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #22

    Hoiletts signing for moenchen! Been on the cards for a month, he speaks fluent German and will get champions league football and more money! Also heard he’s thinking about playing for the USA over Canada (not that that’s really relevent)

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #23

    Newcastly are hardly going to be signing players at the training camp, are they now? Come on guys -.-

    Also, that SSN article on Debuchy is absolute crap.

    “are now close to coming to an agreement on a deal worth around £7million.”

    ‘Close to an agreement’ is the vaguest possible thing they could say. Leaves them plenty of room to back out of their story.

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  • SupaToonKid

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #24

    Quality wise both Sakho & Douglas are top draw so whoever comes in will be really good addition to the side. NUFC just have to decide do they want to pay a bit more for potentially one of the best CBs in the World or less for a super CB but wait till the end of August for a CB who will miss several of our most crucial fixtures this season.

    I wouldn’t mind either as they’re both phenomenal CBs but it makes more sence to me to go for Sakho as we will need 4 CBs for those opening fixtures!

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #25

    SupaToonKid

    Have you really seen enough of either player to make those claims? From what I’ve seen Douglas is far far better, and exactly what we need.

    We can talk all day about potential, but very few players ever reach their ‘potential to be world class’.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #26

    Also, why has Sakho suddenly become an option?

    The club follow players for months and months – we’re hardly going to sign a player we’ve had no previous interest in, just because he’s hyped up a lot!

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  • WWYCD

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #27

    TDS
    No mate I meant Saylor

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #28

    Could not care less….

    1. Krasic
    2. Jesus Navas
    3. Afellay
    4. Bojan
    5. Zoran Tosic

    And many many many many more that can fit that role besides have a new player already MARVEAUX…

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  • Valci

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #29

    Jay – i agree with that assessment on Hoilett actually. I’m thinking he will be signed by Gladbach in short order. I wouldn’t be too disappointed if he didn’t join us though. He is talented but i dont particularly like his attitude and his wage demands might upset the other lads. If Cabs who has proven to be a great playmaker and asset for us is on a rumored 30k/week i’d go as far as to say that even 40k/week is too much for Hoilett (its rumored he wants 50k/week).

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #30

    WWYCD

    Ah, yeah. But again, we were never actively looking to replace him. Sounds to me like we’ve been making piss poor contract offers to Simpson.

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  • toonLYF

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #31

    anyone wondering about streams, there’s this, a local tv stream in chemnitz, which might be showing it http://www.sachsen-fernsehen.de/Zum-Livestream/Seite/

    and this, just some google-found stream, probably a longshot http://www.usagoals.com/live/148116-chemnitzer-fc-vs-newcastle-united/watch/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/en/vivo/tv/gratis/

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #32

    Seen both Douglas and sakho, esepecially sakho alot! Douglas is a better footballer but sakho is a better athlete! Reckon the French lad has some clangers in him though, when ive seen him he looks a better left back than centre half! douglas is a fantastic player, reminds me a bit of kompany!

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  • LGFUAD21

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #33

    And now for my essay of the day. This isnt a neg. Its just an observation/opinion.

    I have always been a big supporter of the way this club as been run regarding transfers BUT I think the club is now at a critical stage where the policy may need tweaking.

    Last summer we obviously had great success bringing all these players in to slot straight into the first team but if we hope to continue our progress and build upon last season (ie stay in Europa/Challenge for CL) things need to change a bit.

    Firstly we cannot expect to necessarily buy more Cabaye’s and have them on the bench. The players simply wont do it to play in Europa league on relatively smaller pay checks than they could get elsewhere. This is why we would never be able to land De Jong.

    Secondly, I think we need 3-4 good first team challengers signed. We have been linked with the players but the question is can we ‘get them over the line’ Pardew has stated 3 players. I think 3 at least. On top of that I think we need to bring in another 3-4 development players (Like Gael Bigirimani, Abeid, Amalfitano level).

    My worry is that relying on our youth to plug the gaps is a risky strategy, if we fail to stay in Europa be certain that is bye bye Cabaye, Tiote, Ba. Pardew has said we would loose players if we failed to achieve something last season. These players are in big demand and atm we have enough to offer here to keep them but as soon as we dont they will leave.

    I think we need to spend about £25m this window to do this.

    The plan for the club is very sound BUT MA has to keep a decent level of spend (£20m) until our academy starts to produce for us. Simple as that. Its an investment. Put the cash in now. 2-3 maybe 4 years down the line we can get away with only spending what outgoing transfers bring in meaning nothing from Ashleys pocket. Because we can bring through our academy players who cost us peanuts and if they want to leave sell them for big money.

    Now in relation to the first point. While true, we keep talking about how important it is to keep key players. We all know who this refers to. BUT equally we need to focus on keeping people like Simmo in my opinion. We are weak at RB (and LB) so replacing 1 for 1, say Debuchy for Simmo, while improving the quality of the squad, does not rectify this situation. Simmo has done a good job there and I think it would be great to have a lad like him there to allow Debuchy to rest and cover for injuries.

    Basically we all want 4 Cabayes in the squad challenging for one position but we need to be realistic here. What we need is to build a good first team with enough quality on the bench to cover for injuries and extra games. By quality on the bench I mean players of Simmo’s ability who we know can take us this far at least.

    Only when we have proven we can a) stay in european competition consistently or b) get CL or serious top 4 challenges are we able to build a squad full of Cabayes, Tiotes, HBAs, Bas, Cisses, Colos, keep them satisfied.

    MA PLEASE INVEST IN OUR ACADEMY BIG TIME WHILE NOT GAMBLING THE CLUBS FUTURE ON YOUTH TO SAVE £5m

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  • Les Grossman

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #34

    We DO NOT NEED Hoillett!!!
    Striker, 2 defenders is all we now need.
    Oh and keep hold of what we have….probably the most important business we have to make this window.

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  • SupaToonKid

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #35

    TDS

    I have seen a good amount of both players and so i think i can make those claims.

    You can take your negativity a p*ss off i’d love it if we sign Debuchy etc. next week just to prove you and all the other annoying negative b*stards up!

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  • ToonJovi

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #36

    Hoiletts versatility is what could make him so succesful here i think, can drop back into midfield aswell as playing as an out and out striker! he would fit perfect into Toons front 3 or 3-1 stike force which we adopted last year!

    will be a big loss if we dont sign him up although we shouldnt bend our wage structure for him!

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  • Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem)

    Jul 13, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #37

    Let QPR sign him.
    We’ll get him on a free next season when they get relegated 😉

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Jul 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #38

    SupaToonKid

    Calm down kid. Don’t get all jumped up. Where have I been ‘negative’ ?

    Christ, too many people desperate to start arguments on the internet these days.

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  • Les Grossman

    Jul 13, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #39

    LGFAUD
    Simmo does not want to stay for the money they have offered, and if he thinks he isnt being paid enough then do you HONESTLY think he’ll want to sit on the bench if Debuchy arrives……..

    And why are you having a go at MA?? has he said he wont spend? By all accounts, he is sending dorty Derek all over the place on Carrs advice to do the right deals. Dejong 10m bid? Debuchy 5m bid? Douglas 5m Bid already paid for berigiman…(thingy). honestly. Hold yer tongue before having a whine. I dont disagree with you but maybe a wee bit more thought in your post might have helped eh?

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  • OoAhDembaBa

    Jul 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #40

    https://p.twimg.com/AxrDUCqCMAASL4G.jpg

    Check this picture out. Showe the stats for last season between Simpson and Debuchy

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