A goal after 32 minutes from Demba Ba won the game for Newcastle tonight, in what turned out to be an excellent work-out for Newcastle in Germany.
Newcastle found the going just a little bit difficult in the first half, but Alan Pardew was not afraid to make the changes in the second half, and the Magpies looked more confident in the second period, as they finally began to string their passes together.
The only goal of the game was an opportunist goal from the Senegal striker, as he won a 50-50 ball with the Monaco goalkeeper on the goal-line, and simply headed the ball in.
But it was poor goalkeeping, and you always expect the goalkeeper to be able to punch the ball clear in those situations, and there was no foul from Ba, which the goalkeeper appealed for, after failing to clear the ball.
It was a typical pre-season game as passes went astray from Newcastle, especially in the first half, against a Monaco team who start their season in two weeks time, and were much more match fit than Newcastle.
This is how we saw the game as it happened.
There was a low sun casting shadows across the pitch as the game kicked off with Newcastle playing in their all new home strip.
The game started slowly and Newcastle were finding it hard to string two passes together as Monaco looked the much more fee flowing side. A very poor back pass from Davide Santon almost cost Newcastle, as a Monaco forward beat Harper to the ball, but he scooped the ball over the bar.
After 25 minutes Monaco had a good chance to score, and the ball seemed to be going into the back of the net, but it fortuitously hit Steve Harper right in the face, and the ball came back out and was cleared.
After the first 30 minutes Monaco had he better chances, but had failed to capitalize on a couple of decent chances they had carved out.
Monaco were ahead in terms of physical fitness and match fitness for this game, since their season starts in less than a couple of weeks time, with Newcastle starting their season three weeks later.
Demba Ba after scoring – as the goalkeeper appeals for a foul – no way!
After 32 minutes the ball was in the penalty area and Mike Williamson headed the ball downwards, and a Monaco defender kicked the ball high into the air, and it was a 50-50 ball between the goalkeeper and Demba Ba, almost on the Monaco goal-line.
And Ba was first to the ball and headed it into the net – but it was poor play from the goalkeeper
Alan Pardew showed his frustration once during the first half when a Newcastle player (it was Abeid) let the ball run out of play, and Alan was seen blowing hard and shaking his head – in apparent frustration – such is pre-season play sometimes. 
Just before half time Steve Harper just got down to a low shot and turned the ball around the post for a corner, just in time.
And a minute later some good work on the left by Sammy Ameobi set up his brother Shola, whose shot was well blocked by the goalkeeper down to his right.
It was 1-0 at the break.
Haris Vuckic was introduced at half time in place of Sammy Ameobi, and Brazilian star Perchinho replaced Mike Williamson at the back, and young James Tavernier came on for Mehdi Abeid.
Santon switched to right back and Gutierrez moved into central midfield, and it looked like James Tavernier was at center-back with Vuckic on the left wing.
After 49 minutes a good cross into the Newcastle box was headed onto the cross-bar by a Monaco player and over the bar – the marking had not looked good when crosses came into the Newcastle box tonight.
After 57 minutes Ryan Taylor came on for Davide Santon at left back, and in truth the Italian looked a little bit rusty tonight.
On 62 minutes Dan Gosling, Gabby Obertan and Cheick Tiote came on for Newcastle in place of Gael Bigirimana, Romain Amalfitano and Shola Ameobi, and Gael looked steady for Newcastle and had a good outing tonight – he looks a good player.
Newcastle were looking a little more comfortable in the second half, as they tried to get themselves back up to speed in pre-season, and Monaco were certainly giving Newcastle a good test and were closing down the Newcastle players well.
On 72 minutes a good Haris Vuckic corner was headed just wide by Demba Ba, who was looking dangerous, and then six minutes later Sylvain Marveaux came on for Demba Ba.
As Ba left he was seen having a photo taken with some supporters on the sidelines - good for him.
After 84 minutes Newcastle should really have gone 2-0 up when Obertan was clean through in the center forward position, but with only the goalkeeper to beat, his shot was blocked and Gosling’s follow up drive was kicked off the line by a Monaco defender.
It was noticeable after Cheick Tiote came on that Newcastle had looked more secure, and seemed to have more of the ball, and started the pass the ball around well – but of course we are talking about a top top player for the Magpies.
And just after writing that – would you believe it – in the last minute Tiote was caught in possession just outside the penalty area, and it took a good save from Steve Harper to keep the ball out.
But then the final whistle was blown, and it was an excellent work-out for a lot of the Newcastle players tonight.
Next up is Fenerbehce on Saturday night at Sonnenseestadion, SC Ritzing, in Austria, and it’s again a 7:00 pm kick-off, with the game being televised by ESPN.
Newcastle United (4-4-2): Steve Harper; Davide Santon (Ryan Taylor 56), Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson (James Perch 46), Jonas Gutierrez; Romain Amalfitano (Gabriel Obertan 63), Mehdi Abeid (Haris Vuckic 46), Gael Bigirimana (Cheick Tiote 63), Sammy Ameobi (James Tavernier 46); Shola Ameobi (c) (Dan Gosling 63), Demba Ba (Sylvain Marveaux 79)
Subs not used: Rob Elliot
Monaco (4-4-2): Daniel Subasic; Eric Marester (Jeremy Labor 86), Andreas Wolf (c) (Adriano Da Silva 63), Andrea Raggi (Gary Kagelmacher 63), Layvin Kurzawa (Dennis Appiah 63); Nabil Dirar (Emir Bajrami 75), Nampalys Mendy, Gary Coulibaly (Delvin N’Dinga 86), Yannick Ferreira Carrasco (Tristan Dingome 75); Ibrahima Toure (Valentin Eysseric, 63), Valere Germain (Nacer Barazite 63)
Subs not used: Martin Sourzac, Marc-Aurele Caillard, Kevin Diaz, Stephane Dumont, Dominique Pandor, Jakob Poulsen, Alexandros Tziolis, Nicaise Salli Edgar
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104 responses so far ↓
1 davis_toons // Jul 16, 2012 at 7:53 PM
Obtan looks ok, almost score a goal…he just cant finish it.
2 Magpie from Lithuania // Jul 16, 2012 at 7:53 PM
good workout!
3 mattyNUFC // Jul 16, 2012 at 7:54 PM
motm goes to bigi i think
the ‘wtf was that all about’ award goes to amalfitano
just kidding, but by all accounts, and this being the only one, looks questionable
4 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jul 16, 2012 at 7:54 PM
One of the players I really want to see do well this season is Obertan. Just to shut up all the harsh and unfair (imo) criticism he gets. Last season I wanted Perch to do well and he did, hopefully Obertan can follow his lead.
5 ROSHAN MAGPIE // Jul 16, 2012 at 7:55 PM
good
6 Spellcheck // Jul 16, 2012 at 7:55 PM
Nice one Ba,HWTL
7 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 16, 2012 at 7:57 PM
Enjoyable match.
Some good movement, pre-season is all about fitness and hopefully no injuries.
Better to lose all your pre-season games 1-0 than cruise to 6-0 wins. Makes everyone try harder.
.. but I’ll take the win
— Dodgy keeper.
8 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jul 16, 2012 at 7:58 PM
Are we not having names on this year’s shirts?
9 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 16, 2012 at 7:58 PM
@MUTINYbyLEMONS
With you 100% – hope Obertan has a cracking season. Shut all the boo-boys up.
10 Dannyo // Jul 16, 2012 at 7:58 PM
I’m just happy i got to see them play a match in the pre-season.
Tavernier and Sammy impressed me allot. Great, great players in the making.
11 Magpie from Lithuania // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:00 PM
obertan looked good as striker, need a little bit of sharpness on the finishing, abeid played very well, tavernier looked good, gosling averge (tried hard, was running a lot, but expected something more, hope he will get better since i like him as a NUFC player), sammy was good but lack stamina and a bit lazzy going back and defending (abeid defended very well), simps was usuall (hope debouchy is coming), santon played well, but made few mistakes, looked lively. Vukcic played ok, put one good cross, closed down some opposition passes, but faded at the end of the game.. demba scored, but he was not in form. Good game, very good training sesion, teams were simmilar level, but monaco is almost ready for the start of their season and we have just strarted..
12 Thump // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:00 PM
@Ben Arfa (8): We never have names on shirts for pre-season.
We looked good. Definitely looking forward to seeing what Gael has in store.
13 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:00 PM
@Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem)
Squad No’s not set yet.
14 Lee Dodd // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:01 PM
Roll On August 18th !!!!!! Whens The New Shirt Out Lads !!!
15 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:01 PM
How come Tavernier played CB today since he is primarily a RB? Was it just to see how he would do there in case we need to rely on him at some point?
16 ToonAndy // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:01 PM
Marveaux looks the real deal like! … Think he’d be better as a playmaker than on the left of a front 3 though…
————————–KRUL——————–
DEBUCHY-DOUGLAS-COLLO-SANTON
————————-TIOTE———————-
————CABAYE———-MARVEAUX—-
———————-BEN ARFA——————
—————-CISSE———–BA—————-
17 nufc786 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:02 PM
august 1st new shirts
18 Magpie from Lithuania // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:02 PM
Bigi was a surprise one of the best players on the field! Pardew was very happy with his performance.
19 davis_toons // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:03 PM
I think Obertan will came in sooner then Marveaux
20 Magpie from Lithuania // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:04 PM
yes Tav is RB but he is capable of being CB, looked better CB than Perchinho IMO, Perch is not a good choice at CB, neither is simpson..
21 XtraTimeAndPens // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:05 PM
Decent performance really and a good workout. Bigi looked good in the middle of the park and looked sharp breaking up attacks. Santon looked a bit sloppy at times but it’s not too surprising given it’s only our 2nd game back. Obertan had a few decent touches, should have scored. Hope we get to see more of Marveaux this season as well because his pace can worry defenders if he stays fit. Overall it was a pretty close game without too many clear chances. Plenty of time to improve and no doubt we’ll look sharper by the time August swings around.
http://www.extratimeandpenalties.com
22 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:06 PM
How many times will we see this headline next season?
23 Magpie from Lithuania // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:07 PM
Marveaux is pure class, hope he will be fit all next season. He should play CAM i think.. but is good as LM too.:) and i think vukcic is wasted on the wing.. he is better at CAM or CM or even ST IMO.
24 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:07 PM
There was a post on NUFCfans during the match.
A mate of Carroll’s Ashington AFC striker Marc Walton has apparently spoken to the pony-tailed wonder and got this info straight from the horses mouth …?
http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/liverpool-and-newcastle-haggling-over-a-fee-for-andy-carroll/?
25 lukes26 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:08 PM
Ratings-
Harper-6
Santon-8
Simpson-4
Willo-7
Jonas-7
Amalfitano-6
Bigi-7
Abeid-5
Sammy-5
Shola-6
Ba-7
Vuckic-6
Tiote-7
Obertan-8
R Taylor-7
Marveaux-7
Gosling-5
Tavernier-5
Perch-5
Difficult to make conclusions on this type of game, since it’s a team sport & a lot of these players are new to each other. The only thing you can evaluate is how composed players are and how well they defend.
26 seantoon // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:09 PM
God knows why were in for Anita when we have Marveaux. The guys awesome. Him tiote and cabaye I can see bossing the middle of any park! I’d rather they bought 2 players for the future with the money they would be spending on Anita. I know he’s looked abit injury prone Marveaux so far but still don’t think it’s worth spending 5-7 mill on Anita
27 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:09 PM
Didn’t see the match was bigi good or just good for his age?
28 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:10 PM
Yeah Vuckic doesn’t have much pace so he can’t really play on the wing, his vision and skill on the ball means he is better of playing CAM. A bit like Amalfitano
29 Thump // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:10 PM
@Pardews plan B: He was good. For his age, he was amazing.
30 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:11 PM
Hmm bigi vs abeid?
31 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:11 PM
Bigi was good and looks just like Tiote
32 ToonDownSouth // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:12 PM
Thump
Where’ve you been for months? :O
I thought Amalfitano looked good as well – everyone seems to be ignoring the poor lad. Because he came in so early, no one seems to care (;
33 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:12 PM
@seantoon were we really in for anita though? Really? Really? Really?
Just sayin it might have been more paper bulls**t
34 leeb1982 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:13 PM
Krul
Debuchy Saylor Colo Santon
Tiote
Ben Arfa Cabaye Marhesus
Carroll/Ba. Cisse
35 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:13 PM
@pardews plan B
Bigi looked very confident and assured.
Could easily be another Tiote in 2-3 years.
36 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:14 PM
Thanks thump. I know its only one game but that still bodes well. Another bargain buy?
37 nufc786 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:15 PM
obertan might has found his calling as a striker….. needs to work on his finishing though he could feature in early qualifiers of the europa league our cup games as a striker….
38 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:15 PM
@pardews plan B
Ajax acknowledged there had been a bid.
39 swemag // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM
Starting to really see why these games means nothing, as in making any sort of conclusion from this, it really is a kick around.
Too many changes and none of the central positions populated by real first teamers. Guess in a few weeks we will see a more solid starting eleven.
With the camera angle on this game it feels like you are watching your mates run around on a pitch.
40 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM
@hatems better if that happens there will certainly be a highlander style showdown.
There can be only one
41 JP...from The Rock // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:17 PM
It was a great work out for the lads and we won with a bit of luck. Being honest it was not very pretty but then again it’s pre-season and the lads were out of position and rusty. Overall we can be pleased with the performance and there were a few positives to take from the game. Towards the end you could see the lads playing some good passes between them.
Marveaux again looked good in only a few minutes he was on. Amalfitano was and Bigi was OK also. Gosling was unlucky not to score and Obertan should have scored but he got in the position to create the chance.
Overall a decent match against a more conditioned team. We should reinforce our defense and attack though.
Oh and Where the F is Debuchy are we ever going to sign him?. this keeps dragging on.
42 Dannyo // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:18 PM
Abeid had a poor one for me today, i thought Bigi was more influental.
43 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:18 PM
@hatems better. Well fair enough. Did the news come from an official ajax source?
44 lukes26 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:18 PM
Gosling still hasn’t had a good game for nufc. Poor defending, poor passing…career is hanging on a thread atm. still unsure why he was valued highly at everton..hopefully he figures it out soon
45 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:19 PM
@pardews plan B
lol
Imaging them in tandem sitting back allowing our fullbacks to race forward.
Great stuff.
Just need Debuchy and Carroll to be sorted and we’ll be set to challenge for the title.
46 JDdubai // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:20 PM
Bigi did look very good, kid’s got a load of potential and can see him in the first team squad by the end of this season not the development one.
Marveaux showed he has a good touch and is technically sound, not sure he’s going to be using his pace for a while though, could see a groin strain coming so maybe playing behind cisse is a possibility when Pardew eases him back in, he wont start a game for a while, will probs do what he did for HBA and take it easy.
Obertan, i know people say he did well, I would say he ran well but the one thing he could do was finish with the keeper on his arse and he couldnt do that. Honestly think he’s a waste of space but who knows what the season will bring. Maybe an Henry-esque transformation from winger to Centre Forward??????
47 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:21 PM
@lukes26
Stop judging players .. it’s pre-season.
48 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:23 PM
Good work out for the lads bigi looked goid as did shola marv amal tav tiote n demba obertan looked good as striker though gosling looked a bit out of shape
Any1 think there number 17 looked a tidy little player??
49 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:23 PM
Interesting prospect if Obertan is converting to a striker role. He could be real scary and make Hoilett a redundant signing. I think we are in for some real treats this season if Pards carries on with his motivational coaching and Marv has a good run of fitness and form.
50 nufc786 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:24 PM
JDdubai
obertan justs needs more practise at his finishing then we could see him feature as a striker…. think pards might see tht henry-esque transformation in obertan if he does feature in a cf role more often……
51 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:25 PM
….cant bare the thought of Carroll….for 13 MILL!!!!!!!!!!$%^&*()
I mean really…..he is not worth 6 mill…. if Cisse cost u 10 Carroll should be 1 mil tops….
52 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:25 PM
Douglas, Debuchy and Carroll. Wonder what Ketsbaia ITK would make of that after the signings he’s been calling for ?
53 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:25 PM
Marveaux’s operation was supposed to completely cure his groin issues.
Jarring challenges are bound to happen hopefully he’s stronger now and it won’t be an issue.
So looking forward to this season.
HWTL
54 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:25 PM
Breno what you on about?
55 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:25 PM
@lukes26 stop posting garbage. Lol
but seriously constructive criticism would be nice rather than “he’s crap and so is he” style comments.
Why do you have these opinions? Who is better? I wanna know what makes you tick.
56 lukes26 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:26 PM
@ Hatem
“Bigi looked very confident and assured.
Could easily be another Tiote in 2-3 years.”
I guess you should too?
57 cupiddstunt // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:26 PM
Marveaux is a very tidy and economic player with a superb first touch, uses the ball well and rarely gives it away, not a wasteful player at all.
Just think, had he not been injured so much what would his price be?????
I hope the visit to the Steadman clinic has sorted out our little marvel as it appeared that he was carrying a problem that was caused by an imbalance in his build/conformation and was never operated on to put it right until now.
Now it has apparently been rectified he will need a little time for his body to adjust to the new points of balance and then he should be fine.
Lots of promise for the coming season.
58 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:26 PM
nufc the blog killer
Do you reckon Obertan is quicker than Henry ?
59 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:27 PM
@MFH aye ober looked lively up front just needs a bit of work on his finishing!
Marv looked class tho!
60 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:28 PM
Did marveaux play tonight if so how did he look?
61 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:28 PM
My mother always told me if you have nothing nice to say don’t say anything at all.
So to turn that phrase into something applicable here, gorgonzola if you’re not going to say anything sensible please say nothing at all. In fact please leave as you are hurting my eyes with your tripe.
That is all.
62 PIBID (the poster formerly known as hattambenarfa) // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:29 PM
Hmm
Debuchy Colo Taylor santon
Bigi tiote
Hba cabaye marveaux
cisse
63 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:29 PM
@gorgonzola
Andy Carroll is an England International Centre forward.
He’s worth a lot more than your valuation.
I love seeing Newcastle with a proper CF.
McDonald, Ferdinand, Ferguson, Shearer.
Carroll’s potentially as good as them, he’s only 23.
He plays so much better in b&w.
Get him signed!!!!
64 JP...from The Rock // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:29 PM
I don’t want Carroll back. 10M or more for a money hungry ex player? He was not forced out cuz he could have not signed and that’s the end of it. Anyway he’s not good enough imo. He is good but for the old Newcastle. Hughton’s style, long balls. We don’t play like that anymore and I don’t want to see that again. If we bring him in we most probably will adopt that style. Even if he’s on the bench we will slowly go back to our old long ball ways.
I prefer giving all that money to Graham Carr to find us a better pacier LF/CF.
I think this all could be to unsettle Carroll and lower his price so when he performs poorly for Liverpool again we snap him up even cheaper in January. Or a smokescreen to another quality striker under everyone’s noses.
LETS VOTE: Do You Want Carroll Back ?? YES/NO
I say NO thanks.
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66 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:30 PM
@Luke26 fair play on your comment about hatems comment . He was answering my question perhaps a little too enthusiastically lol
67 lukes26 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:30 PM
@ Pardew Plan B
I take offense at your opinions of my opinions.
Which game was Gosling above average in?
I’m not saying that he can’t pull a Perch..I’m just saying he hasnt yet.
68 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:30 PM
The finishin can be coached easier than positional sense and makin the runs…Would love to see Obertan come good and Marv has always looked like a real top guy, the few times I’ve seen him.
69 check the toastie // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:31 PM
If we sign Debuchy Douglas and Carroll we will have one hell of a squad, real presence with some superb quality, premier league isnt all about looking pretty, some times rolling up your sleeves and putting in a shift is just as important, and with big Andy linking all the ball players up we would be a handfull of a team.
Love Tavernier and Marveaux both have that composure only top players have. Please let tonight be the last time i have to endure Simpson try and play for our football club, he is sh1t. I repeat Sh1t, move him on, would actually be happier to get rid of Simmo than sign Debuchy, weird but true.
70 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:31 PM
@lukes26 #56
Just realised you are a complete f*****g moron.
71 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:32 PM
@Luke i have no opinions of your opinions as of yet because i don’t know many of the reasons behind them. You are entitled to any opinion you like. I just like people to give reasons whenever possible.
72 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:32 PM
Same applies to you check the toastie. The blog police has spoken
73 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:33 PM
@MFH think this could be there breakthrough season especially for gabby
Ruddy i love it when you lay the smackdown blog police style!!!
74 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:34 PM
Tads
Always happy to oblige my friend
75 davis_toons // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:35 PM
Do you reckon Obertan is quicker than Henry ?
Yes, but techinc wise he was still far from it and the “thinking, the decision” it is what obtan needs to develop..(remb he can make a very weird pass , or backpass)
76 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:35 PM
Ah ruddy. You say you dislike silly season but you still return (in all fairness for a match this time)
How are you?
77 leeb1982 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:36 PM
@JP dud u see first half. All we did was play long balls. If we got AC it don’t mean we will play long ball. Through the middle to Cabaye etc then they can either feed it through for Cisse or out wide for overlapping fullbacks to whip in for AC. Why does a big striker have to mean long balls. Shearer and Ferdinand huff said
78 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM
@tads i been sayin the same about obertan since the last season ended. I think he’s got it all physically. Just needs to keep a cool head
79 lukes26 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM
we’re closing down the blog…
pardews plan B has said we’re not allowed to have opinions unless theyre backed up by empirical data.
80 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:39 PM
Pardew’s plan B
My sorry attempt of staying away during silly season has falling by the wayside, I just have to have my fix of laying down the law (I’m kidding here lads, the blog police thing was a joke)
This Carroll saga has really blown silly season out of the water big time, good progress made in our pre-season matches. Some exciting potential in Biggy, Amalfitano looked v good against Chemnitzer so he will still come good, Marv looked excellent and Obertan at CF is a very curious decision but an exciting one as I always felt that he would be used down the middle so all is well
81 davis_toons // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:39 PM
Gosling at Everton looks promising but what happens during the injury / when he comes to Newcastle? Still adapting? But at lease we got a decent backup.
82 davis_toons // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:43 PM
Simmo is still a useful player for our current club..(unless we got better backup player)
83 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:44 PM
@Luke hardly what i said. I just said i want to know why you have your opinions.
And you justly summed up your opinion of gosling by saying you don’t believe he’s had a game where he’s looked above average. Fair enough.
But he was a highly rated youngster along with rodwell at everton. He has had a confidence breaking injury and very little first team action.
I personally will reserve judgement until I’ve seen more of him.
84 JP...from The Rock // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:45 PM
leeb1982- Ye I did see it and it was a pre-season game today. We were never going to play to our potential. Our ‘reserve’ players where played all over the place also. Shearer and Ferdinand were class players. Andy is like a donkey next to them. I have faith that Andy Carroll will develop into a good and dangerous classic CF but we don’t need that, and I don’t want it.
I would much rather we go for a player like Gameiro who is different to what we have therefore allows us to mix it up in attack if the match needs it. The last player we had like that was Lovenkrands, before him Owen and before him Bellamy so we are crying out for a player with pace upfront. We have enough giants up top. Also Carroll is a CF we need a striker that can also play LF like all the players I mentioned above.
Carroll came did well, opted for the money and it’s time for us to move on.
Every time we go back for an ex player or manager it usually ends in disaster.
85 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:47 PM
@ruddy been dying to see oba down the middle. Through balls from marveaux cabaye and the like could feed a guy like him. To those begging for a pacey cf obertan could fit the bill soon. But important not sure yet
86 leeb1982 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:47 PM
For f@ck sake why can’t people accept others opinions. I might not agree with u but I won’t slate u for it. How boring would it be if we all felt n thought the same. Grow up n accept that we will all view things differently
87 JP...from The Rock // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:51 PM
leeb1982 – Is that aimed at me? If so it doesn’t make sense. All I have done is express my opinion and I haven’t slated anyone lol
88 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:53 PM
I will openly disagree with people in a rational fashion if they are being rational also.
For those that come out with “he is sh!t…he’s a donkey…etc” don’t deserve people to be rational with them and as such I will not waste my precious time dealing with them, but I will chip in and say that what they’re saying is a load of bullshizzle that needs to be weeded out.
I respect people’s opinion if it’s well reasoned. If it’s idiotic it doesn’t deserve to be respected
89 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:55 PM
@leeb. Aimed at me?
90 leeb1982 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:57 PM
No not aimed at any1 just in general when people get slated for their opinion. I might not agree with yours but I wouldn’t slate u for having a difference in opinions
91 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:57 PM
By the way, Carroll is not a donkey. Some people are just ridiculous, Gameiro over Carroll, a homegrown talent? Hand me some of what you’re smoking
92 lukes26 // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:57 PM
pardews plan B
agree that he hasnt played very often and he’s come off a serious injury. but when he does, he seems to be caught out of place defensively…which is something CM’s can’t be doing on a regular basis. I realize he’s more of an attacking mid, but his range of passing has been poor & gives the ball away cheaply.
I never watched him play at everton, so i really dont know what his potential is. you might know this better than me.
93 JP...from The Rock // Jul 16, 2012 at 8:59 PM
Ruddy Marveaux-lous – Is my post idiotic is that what you’re saying? I just said that comparing Carroll to legends like Shearer and Ferdinand is premature and I called him a donkey ‘compared’ to them. He can’t lace their boots. But he’s still young and as I mentioned he could make it as he proved with England recently. I just feel we need a fast, mobile, techinacally talented young striker that can play more out wide allowing us to play with 3 up front and Ba rotating with Cisse in his preferred CF role.
HBA looks to have earned his place as a RF or RW. I thought he would do well in the position Pardew wanted for him at the beginning in CAM but he’s playing well there. All I am saying is we need to fill the other side on the left.
94 Magpie from Lithuania // Jul 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM
I would say YES, for buying Carroll from liverpool.
95 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM
Cabaye is a donkey compared to Zidane using your logic.
I do not intend to use your logic because it’s silly.
96 saxonfenken // Jul 16, 2012 at 9:02 PM
I suppose, Pedro and Nobby should not have come back. What stupid reasoning
97 HullMag6 // Jul 16, 2012 at 9:05 PM
A retrained obertan = no need for hoilett. So key signings
Debuchy
Carroll
Douglas
Personally id add budget allowing
Pieters
Anita
A young cf to develop
98 JP...from The Rock // Jul 16, 2012 at 9:05 PM
Oh and yes I am smoking some fine hash from Morocco but that’s beside the point
He may be homegrown but he messed up and we’re all feeling sorry for him when we don’t really need another not so quick CF. I want more pace in the team like HBA. We need more players that take defenders on and open spaces.
I love the team that Pardew is building but if we re-sign Carroll I feel we’re going backwards just a bit. Though I would be overjoyed if we got him and another fast attacker but I don’t see that happening.
99 HullMag6 // Jul 16, 2012 at 9:06 PM
A retrained obertan = no need for hoilett. So key signings
Debuchy
Carroll
Douglas
Personally id add budget allowing
Pieters
Anita
A young cf to develop.
This will probably self repost.
100 JP...from The Rock // Jul 16, 2012 at 9:10 PM
Solano never should have been sold!! He was amazing. And yes you could say Cabaye is a donkey compared to Zidane. I am a huge donkey compared to Perch.
I just said a few things but it mus be the hash but do you get what I am saying about a pacy attacker in the team like Bellamy?-without the attitude he had.
101 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 16, 2012 at 9:21 PM
Obertan could be that pacy attacker we so crave, don’t knock the lad he WILL come good for us
Carroll is not a donkey and that is a fact. I would love him to come home even if we don’t sign a pacy striker
102 Sazzer // Jul 16, 2012 at 9:27 PM
We basically have four leaks last season:
Bit shaky defending at times.
Few challenging balls into box
Disjointed build up play and possession game
and could have scored more goals from set pieces.
Did see any signs of improvement in these department today?
By the way, Narsingh just went to PSV at 4 m Euros. WTF?
103 pardews plan B // Jul 16, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Cheers for replying Luke and i see you’re point he can look really poor. I think im just hoping he’ll come good if im honest with myself
104 nico // Jul 17, 2012 at 7:50 AM
I would love to see Obertan come good this season. Seriously though he won’t because he hasn’t got a good enough football brain. Believe me, I have a season ticket and was frustratated with him every time he played. He has all the technical and physical attributes that a footballer could want, just doesn’t know what to do with them. He never crosses a ball, why?
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