Alan Shearer Backs Carroll Move Back To Newcastle


Newcastle legend Alan Shearer has said he thinks a move back to Newcastle would be an excellent move for 23 year-old fellow Geordie striker Andy Carroll, although there’s that old saying that you should never go back.

Alan Shearer – backs Carroll move back home

Alan is 41 now and not only the greatest goalscorer ever in a black and white shirt, but he’s also one of the best footballers Newcastle have ever produced. Alan is remembered for his goal-scoring exploits but there wasn’t a better passer of a ball when Alan was playing on Tyneside.

This is what the Newcastle icon had this to say about Andy Carroll’s situation in The Sun today:

“Andy is an England centre-forward and I wouldn’t say he has been a flop at Liverpool by any means.”  “Yes, it took him a bit of time to settle there but he finished the season strongly and considering he only started one game at the Euros, I thought he did well.”

“Make no mistake, he is a very good footballer. I can fully understand why Newcastle are in for him and I think it would be a great move.”  “When he was there before he benefited from the fact that the team was always working to get him the ball – and he thrived on that.”

“That hasn’t always been the case at Liverpool and perhaps at times he suffered.”  “There is an old saying that you should never go back but, in Andy’s case, I don’t think it would be a mistake at all.”  

“He was hero-worshiped by the crowd first time around and they would warm to him again. Andy loved playing there and whatever the fans felt about him leaving to join Liverpool, I’m sure he would win them over quickly.”

We have to also remember that when Andy joined Liverpool,  Alan said that Kenny Dalglish would make him into a much better striker, as he had done with Alan himself at Blackburn Rovers.

But unfortunately for all concerned that  just didn’t happen, and as Alan references above, Kenny hardly ever played to Carroll’s strengths, so if you are not going to do that – why pay £35M for him in the first place?

Andy came through the Newcastle Youth Academy and Newcastle made him into an excellent striker, and they can do that again if Andy returns home.

And although there are a number of Newcastle fans still upset at Andy leaving in the first place, my son Neil is one of them, a return to Newcastle could soon win over the majority of those fans, and if Andy was willing to take a wage cut – that would also help.

However we do think the £20M reportedly being asked by Liverpool could submarine the deal, if they are not willing to come down to nearer £15M for the 6′ 3″ England striker.

What do you think?

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59 comments so far

  • Vader

    Jul 17, 2012 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #1

    Agree?

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  • Toon_Tom

    Jul 17, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #2

    Yes

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  • nimo

    Jul 17, 2012 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #3

    Shearer shearrer

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  • Valci

    Jul 17, 2012 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #4

    nico – reply to your post in the previous thread – please explain to me what style is that? … when you say our style of play… what exactly is that style please… because some of you seem to think we play like Barcelona and we do not…nor would i really want us to but thats another matter.

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  • roadfighter

    Jul 17, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #5

    I agree 100%.. except NUFC must not pay more than 13 mil..

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  • tweaked

    Jul 17, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #6

    reckon he will play second fiddle to ba and cisse and partner shola for the smaller games

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  • Whistler

    Jul 17, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #7

    Would love to see AC back in a black & white shirt at the right price, would give great quality in depth up top with Cisse, Ba and him.

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  • JDdubai

    Jul 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM

    Comment #8

    Agree that maximum to pay would be 13 million, anything more and it would be a wrong move. Cant understand why they would pay more than that based on structure and the way the club is run now anyway.

    Would take him back as 3rd choice, not on stupid wages though.

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  • Jamesthefirst

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #9

    Carroll

    If we get him for £15 million it is tremendous business by Mike Ashley – effectively getting Liverpool to pay us £20 million to let Carroll play for us.

    Those criticising the move saying he wouldn’t fit into our system are missing the point. Carroll gives us a plan B – something we didn’t have last season. When we needed to change the system to win the game, we turned to the Ameobis – hardly a threat.

    With so many games next season, we cannot always play the 4-3-3. Carroll is perfect for those rainy nights away from home when we want to cram the midfield with 5 midfielders.

    Also, if Debuchy does sign today (or this week), he is an excellent crosser of the ball, so he could whip loads of crosses into Carroll.

    But more important that any of this is what it would signal to the dressing room. When he left Jonas said he and others were devasted by it. If Carroll comes back it would be a huge lift to the dressing room because it says to them “The grass is not greener elsewhere. If you leave Newcastle you’ll just be unhappy.”

    So come on Ashley, bring him home and let’s go after the top four.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #10

    Love him to come back.

    20M is a bit high, but I think he’ll be our CF for 10 years if we get him. Can’t see him leaving again.

    HWTL

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  • toonarmyuk

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #11

    In all honesty, when he left for £35m every NUFC up and down the land was shocked. We all knew he was only ever worth £15m, and that was after a cracking a season in the Premier League. How then, can he still be worth £15m after a shocking season at Liverpool? Just because Liverpool made an arse of themselves paying over the odds doesn’t mean we need to do the same to get him back. Rodgers wants rid of him, so make no mistake, he will be sold this summer – if we hold out we will get him for the right price.

    I could just about cope if we paid £15m, but not a penny more. We do need another striker for the lengthy season ahead, but he must know he would play second fiddle to Ba and Cisse?

    Finally, I will never forget his antics when he returned to SJP with Liverpool. Diving all over the shop. If it wasn’t for that, I would welcome him back with open arms, but he will have to regain my support initially if he does return.

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  • Valci

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #12

    Hatem – i was thinking the same actually…

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  • geordielad95

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #13

    Dont we get 25% of the transfer fee anyway? So a 20mil bid would only really be a 15mil bid? Let’s trick the bin dippers and get him in a decent deal. You have to remember aswell that Carroll would actually be literally paying for him self, aswell as cabaye, ba, cisse, bigi, Amalafitano etc.
    I hope we can pull this off as it will literally be one of the greatest robberies of all time never mind in the football world.
    If we get Carroll back Liverpool would have single handedly payed for our successful team.
    Also, most Liverpool fans I know want to keep Andy Carroll as a back up striker, so if they want him we must have him. Let’s get one
    Last big win over the scouse.

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  • WWYCD

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #14

    Why is paying more than 13mill for Carroll a wrong move? One of the brighest English talents around when he was sold and he won us a lot of games

    Regardless though it might not happen so relax, surely we can accept the club tend to know what they are doing in the transfer market

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  • WWYCD

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #15

    Oh and Shearer go get a management job instead of spending all ur time talking to journos ffs

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  • toonarmyuk

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #16

    Jamesthefirst – agree that Carroll would give us a Plan B. I think most games in the Prem (except for illness/ACN) Ba and Cisse will start, but I can see Carroll getting a lot of sub appearance, get a lot of cup games, and come in to shake things up when the Ba and Cisse partnership isn’t working.

    Also, I don’t think anyone can be certain (until 1st August comes around) that Ba’s contract clause won’t be enacted, so if he goes then I think the importance of the Carroll move will heighten.

    Everyone saying that Carroll’s style of play isn’t right for us now just has to remember that we have a LOT of players who can switch their game quickly to suit Carroll’s style, and I think Pardew is good enough to quickly adapt games if needed.

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  • hoppernufc

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #17

    Story today that debuchy is still on holiday and wants lille to sort out a move, so everyone saying debuchy flew into Newcastle a couple of days ago are full of sh!t

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  • magpiebop

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #18

    Rogers wants the Carroll money to spend and he wants to come back. 15m bid from us will seal it, especially now Rogers has unsettled Carroll. If reports are true that Newcastle are all he’s interested in joining, we just need to bide and let Carroll do the rest. Would love to see him heed butt Rogers to make sure the moves quick and cheap!

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #19

    The French international is also wanted by Italian giants Inter Milan, but Newcastle are in pole position for his signature – as Sky Sports revealed last week.

    The Magpies are continuing talks with Lille over a deal believed to be worth around £7million, but an agreement has not yet been finalised.

    Debuchy has never hidden his desire to leave the club in recent weeks but Lille had hoped to persuade him to stay for at least another year – although that now looks highly unlikely.

    Asked about the prospect of joining Newcastle, he told L’Equipe: “That is my priority, although Inter also enquired about me.

    “I am committed 100 per cent to the fact I want to leave Lille, I want to discover another championship.

    “The coach wants to keep me and I will not change his mind, but I will do everything I can to move elsewhere.”

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #20

    so basically the fee itself for Debuchy hasn’t been agreed. I think it will end only at the end of next week.

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  • Paps

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #21

    @ magpiebop.
    quick is the key word as the longer it takes the more bids from other clubs will come in and increase his price

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  • ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #22

    20mill a bit high? Its more then 5times his flippin value. Don’t want this muppet back at the club. He had his chance and he left.

    Now he supposesdly wants to come back because he was a liverpoo flop? Pi55 off. Better players out there at the same price and cheaper.

    20mill for Caroll?
    I’d rather pay up to 25mill for Sturridge.
    I’d rather sign Guidetti for potentially half the price.

    Heck Like I said the other day, if it came down to Owen and Caroll. I’d take Owen for his experience as a benchwarmer. Overall he would be cheaper then dishing out an 8 digit transfer fee for Judas.

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  • geordielad95

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #23

    To be fair, Liverpool have Suarez, borini, they’re almost certainly gonna get Dempsey, and it wouldt surprise me if they bought another striker in aswell. So where does Carroll sit in that? Probably subs bench for Europa and cup games and not even in squad for leage games. So I would be very suprised to see Carroll still in a Liverpool shirt by September. And of all the clubs intersted in him, we are the best, both for football reasons and for Andy himself (I don’t believe ac Milan are interested.)

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  • barcodejoe

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #24

    I dont understand why people are mad about getting Carroll back at the TOON. He has had his time and we have defo moved on. There are better options out there than him that actually fit our stlye of play. Forget Carroll and move on…..

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  • BenbulbenMag

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #25

    I’ve heard a 20% – 25% transfer fee condition mentioned before, is this the case ?

    If it is then yes £15m should definitely get him.

    If we don’t have this condition then I would not go above £15m

    Although the supposed £13 that we offered is “cool cash upfront” (to use Ed’s parlance;) This is a major advantage when we make an offer as it will in turn generate an advantage for Rogers negotiating other potential signings.

    I think Carroll would continue to improve on Newcastle. Being around Cisse and Ba is bound to rub off on the lad and he will learn from them.

    Interesting comments from another fan yesterday regarding not wanting Carroll back over Demba as Demba always has a smile on his face, is never in trouble with the law and is a better striker (I agree with all of his comments)

    I reckon Carroll has learned his lesson though and will know that he has to work extremely hard to regain the fan’s trust. That is all to our benefit.

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  • ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #26

    @BarcodeJoe

    Completely agree. Its like 1 step forward 5 steps back if we sign him. Newcastle United are not some halfway house for the football flops that couldn’t hack it at a “big club”.

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  • Valci

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #27

    And your comment right there, Debuchery on a Dreamboat, is what is wrong with a part of NUFC supporters. Verbal abuse of players and lack of footballing knowledge save the occasional youtube video all in one post. Personally i am ashamed of you…

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  • Jamesthefirst

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #28

    Some journalist said yesterday on the radio that according to accountants at Newcastle, Liverpool have still not been paid the full fee for AC. Liverpool didn’t pay the £35 million up front as was widely reported, and Ashley is using this to push the price down to bring AC back.

    AC is ours for £15 million, due to the 25% sell on fee. But Ashley is currently refusing to pay more than £13 million.

    So expect him to sign by Friday for ‘an undisclosed fee’

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  • Jamesthefirst

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #29

    We have lost Loverkrands and Best (for £3 million) and we all know BA is going to leave the first offer he gets for more money, so that’s another striker out the door and another £7.5 million in the coffers.

    We need a striker, so why not buy one we know how to get the best out of.

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  • pardews plan B

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #30

    I see that check the toastie is saying he was ripped into last night. I never ripped into him merely asked him to express reasons for his foul mouthed opinion.
    He finally gave some on the last thread and i understand his point of view now.
    However, painting himself as a victim today and saying he hasn’t changed his opinion (which he was never asked to do) is a little silly after he refused point blank to have a sensible discussion last night.

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  • geordielad95

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #31

    Think it shows the success we had last season, that players actually WANT to come to us. Debuchy wants to come to us, Carroll wants to come to us, Anita wants to come to us. Shows how far we’ve come

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  • pardews plan B

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #32

    @james its alkaline very quiet on ba considering he’s supposed to be a hotly contested property

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  • pardews plan B

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #33

    Alkaline = all

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  • HullMag6

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #34

    15mil is about his market value, its still 20mil profit at the end of the day. Everyones a winner except dogleash and the fool.

    Get off the lads back your tune will cjange if he bangs a few in wearing black & white.

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  • HullMag6

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #35

    Change even.

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  • dave 1961

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #36

    Debuchery on a Dreamboat
    Owen? i would not use that heap of s**t to feed leeks, mind you i would like to bury him 6ft under the parasite.

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  • OoAhDembaBa

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #37

    The ones saying they don’t want him back, saying he’s not worth it… are the same fans that will chant carroll and sing his praise if he scores

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #38

    Well of course whatever shearer says must be right – NOT!!

    Of course he’s been a massive flop. Why the hell do you think Liverpool want rid. 6 goals in 42 games in a ”footballing” team is pathetic when you’ve cost 36M.

    Why can’t people leave out all the macho and ” he’s one of our own” rubbish and realise he will only be relatively successful in a non – footballing mid table team, ie a Stoke or a West Ham.

    We have spent time building up all these ball players who play it on the deck and use skill, pace and movement and that will all go to hell if carroll comes back.

    All season we’ve had the last laugh on Liverpool as we’ve done really well with firstly Ba and then Cisse and Carroll has been continually benched all season. Now Liverpool have got a proper manager, not a buffoon like Dalglish, their first move is to dump a boozed up target man as they want to lay ”football”, after realising the expensive mistake of the aforementioned charmless cretin Dalglish.

    I hope Liverpool price us out as 13M could go a long way on 2/3 decent payers without all the baggage Carroll brings.

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  • veto

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #39

    wish all this carroll talk would just go away , really cant justify upping our bids , so just leave it be and move on .

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  • Jamesthefirst

    Jul 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #40

    @pardews plan B – I personally don’t think BA is going. If he is still here on 1August (after his clause has expired) he will be here for at least another season.

    Even if he does stay, we still need another quality striker, hence why the club went after De Jong.

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