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Papiss Cisse Sick In A German Hospital

10:50 am, Tuesday, July 17th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 28 Comments

Bad news today that Papiss Cisse has hardly trained at all on the Newcastle’s  mini-tour and is sick, and was left behind in a Munich hospital yesterday, when the rest of the squad traveled to Landsberg am Lech, for last night’s game against Monaco.

Papiss Cisse – he wasn’t sick when he scored this goal

Alan Pardew has talked today from Munich about his top striker, and the Londoner had this to say to the local press:

“Cisse, bless his heart, is ill.” “He hasn’t done any training.” “I can’t see him playing the last game.”  “I can see Colo playing a part.” “He’s a player who needs to be right in his own head to play, and he likes to do a bit extra.”

“That’s the professionalism he brings to the club.” “The younger players performed better than they did in the first game.”  “You saw our fitness levels were up a little bit.”

“Our established players all made progress.” “It was nice to see the young players make an impact – Haris, Mehdi, Sammy and Tav.”  “I thought they were all very, very good.”

We thought young Gael Bigirimana really caught the eye for one so young, and he looked very accomplished in a black and white shirt, and the other youngsters also put in good performances as Alan pointed out.

So only three players now – Steven Taylor, Tim Krul and Cisse – along with captain Coloccini, have not played in the first two games – but we expect Colo to get a run out against Fenerbahce on Saturday night in the Sonnenseestadion, SC Ritzing in Austria.

We don’t think Steven Taylor will be risked because of his hamstring, and the Newcastle medics are handling Steven at the moment with kit gloves, as they want to get a full season out of the local lad in the coming season.

Well we have to hope Cisse makes a good recovery from his illness, although we’re not exactly sure what his ailment is.

German food perhaps?

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28 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ROSHAN MAGPIE // Jul 17, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    bad news it would have been good for cisse to train with the team and know them better

  • 2 Raj // Jul 17, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    That’s why he has been missing!! Get well soon Papi..

  • 3 Magpie from Lithuania // Jul 17, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    get well soon cisse :)

  • 4 Magpie from Lithuania // Jul 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM

    hey, why fergie isn’t playing? injurie? :(

  • 5 bigirimana // Jul 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM

    boring game good to see lads back though howay the lads :)

  • 6 geordielad95 // Jul 17, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    Get well soon pappiss, we need you back to top fitness to knock 7 past spurs in August. Demba ba hat trick, cisse hat trick and colocini volley. Bit too optimistic?? Nah.

  • 7 Valci // Jul 17, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    repost:
    MagpiesFlyHigh – thats where we disagree. 4-2-3-1 is not close to 4-4-2 at all. In fact what JDDubai mentioned is more like 4-2-3-1 then 4-3-3. If you push Cabs forward you’re not gonna want him to step on the central striker’s toes will you??? So that striker automatically advances. Of course the system has to be fluid enough to interchange between attack and defense and such.

  • 8 jayphoto // Jul 17, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    just wanna say on Carroll also, Liverpool rarely played it long to him last year and he actually played well in their allround play, the problem for him wasn’t performance, it was goals! He missed a lot of chances but got himself into great positions! Watched him boss Kompany, vidic and terry in the last year and they’re meant to be the top of the tree in defenders! Just wonder if the pressure of the 35m played a part in him struggling for goals? One thing im sure of is that Carroll will always be 20% more of a player in a toon shirt than for any other club! Always gave 100% fr us and maybe this last year will have seen him grow up??

  • 9 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jul 17, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    sickness….hmmmm what sickness…

  • 10 hoppernufc // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    Eh… So what’s wrong with colloconi?

  • 11 geordie157 // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Anyone else think that “when” Debuchy signs we still need another left back?? ie someone like Boenisch on a free. To add quality competition at left back for Santon. I don’t think Jonas and Fergs are great at left back, and neither really are Perch and Raylor.

  • 12 Les Grossman // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Is it illness or is it Olympic fallout, or is it “Andy Carroll Type fee” agreed??

    Time will tell.
    Worrying the way AP skirted around it……….

  • 13 sticklebricks // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Ramadan starts Friday…

  • 14 jayphoto // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    @geordie157 I actually think pardew will be happy with R.taylor, fergie and Jonas as left back back Ups! By all accounts fergie is a prospect there and we cd accomodate Taylor as a back up if right back is sorted! If its true we agreed for Douglas but can’t complete it till august, him and debuchy make our defense a lot stronger than last season and we had a lot of clean sheets and a good run with Taylor in at left back last year! More than adequate as a back up!

  • 15 geordie157 // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Chris Gunter close to signing for Reading, wonder if that means they no longer or didn’t want Simpson. I can see him ending up with Blackburn.

  • 16 brighter // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    >German food perhaps?
    Ohhh,German people are getting to be anger.lol

  • 17 Valci // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    MagpiesFlyHigh – read your reply in the other thread. And yes in 4-2-3-1 i didnt mean to play Cabs in the line of 2 but in the line of 3 behind the triker…effectively ACM role which i agree is his best position. When attacking in 4-2-3-1 you have the FB’s advancing to winger positions and the wingers towards the striker either cutting inside and shooting or on the flank crossing which in fact makes you attacking line a line 3 when in possession. You have your FB acting as wings and in the middle a triangle of Tiote,another CDM and Cabs higher up. Thats the way i see 4-2-3-1 at least. Much the same way, this formation quickly turns to 4-4-1-1 when defending with the wing providing cover on the flanks to helf the FB’s. Just my 2 cents…

  • 18 Markaccus // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Maybe he went over his limit on schnitzengrubens? The sherrif from blazing saddles could only eat 14 (I think)

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    As Reading are going fir some Forest player now the Mail have decided to send Simmo to Villa this morning.

  • 20 Belly // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Get well soon Papiss x

  • 21 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Why is Ferguson not on the pre-season tour?

    Debuchy, Douglas and a forward in and we’ve got ourselves a great team:

    ————————-Krul————————-
    ————–Douglas——Coloccini————
    –Debuchy——————————Santon–
    ——————Tioté——Gutierrez————
    –Ben Arfa———-Cabaye——Marveaux–
    ————————-Cissé———————-

    - Santon at LB because IMO he seems more settled there.
    - I really think Gutierrez can become a good DM – he’s more than capable at LB and LM so adapting to an LDM shouldn’t be too difficult.
    - Cabaye is a great playmaker and I prefer seeing him weaving his magic further up the pitch where he can have more success.
    - Marveaux looks very confident on the ball from the little I’ve seen of him (yesterday and the Everton game) and could do a Ben Arfa-esque role down the left flank.
    - Ba and Cisse could rotate depending on the opposition. Ba seems a lot stronger and more of a presence in the air so he should play against the more physical teams.
    - During ACON, play the new Striker and have a development player take his place on the subs bench. Same goes for the DM, perhaps Abeid or Bigi or Gosling to cover for Tioté?

    Wow I really need to get out…

  • 22 Markaccus // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    @ JFA. Imagine if the Mail ACTUALLY controlled transfer business! Thered be some pretty fkd up teams in the prem!

  • 23 Valci // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Ben Arfa…thats exactly the kind of formation im picturing…cheers.

  • 24 Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem) // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Valci,
    From the 4-2-3-1s I’ve seen irl and on Fifa the player at the centre of the 3 is more of a CF and plays more like a second striker sitting a little deeper. I am pretty sure Pardew could mastermind something which would work!

  • 25 JDdubai // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Ben Arfa @21

    Agree with the team, only change would possibly be Jonas’ position but right now he is probably the best option. Dont think Marveaux will start any games until October though, reckon Pards will hold him back a la HBA after his injury.

    The formation works with 3 key players, 2 attacking full backs to offer with which we hopefully will have, and a playmaker playing in “the hole” which we have. Strong side.

    Would still love Hoilett as the left wing though, no updates since he went to Germany?????

  • 26 mhurford // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Ben afra (ELOH) ur line up is great but honestly i’d swap debuchy and santon. Reason being Ben arfa wont track back on debuchys forward runs. Gutierrez will however be able to fill the hole. Santon does make fantastic runs forward but less regularly than Debuchy would so would be less exploitable. Also if im honest Pardew’s gonna play Ba over marveaux more centrally so gutierrez will be out wide.

    ————————-Krul————————-
    ————–Douglas——Coloccini————
    –Santon——————————Debuchy–
    ————————Tioté—————-—
    –Ben Arfa———-Cabaye——Gutierrez–
    ——————-Cissé———Ba————-

  • 27 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    Valci

    Valci

    Where does Cabaye play best….in a 433.
    Where did he play his entire career before he came to us … as ACM in a 433.
    What goal did he score on the Euros…from the ACM position.
    The playmaker has freedom to roam. He needs two DM players behind him to liberate him. Cabaye can be a bit clumsy in the tackle imo if he plays too deep. If you peg him back you’ll not get the best out of him. I think he’s good enough to avoid stepping on anyone’s toes BTW.

    We might be disagreeing about nothing much as what you call a 4231 I think is more a slight adapation of a 433 so maybe we view the formations pretty much the same but I see the pure 4231 as an away game defensive formation like the 451. I do not want a lone target man. It is just so boring. (A bit like the Scotland International side.)
    I want to see a three man midfield with two good FBs who can push up the pitch and with DMs bright enough to play deeper to cover counter attacks when Santon and Debuchy are on the rampage. Then a front three who can overlap between flanks and direct attack.
    The centre guy in a 433 needs adaptable too… Torres (not a bad player, just badly managed) has played at his best this season when he has moved out wide and acted as supplier – he might not have had the goals but he has dragged defenders wide and left space for AMs and got a goodly few assists. Cisse does the same…when he’s not banging them in.

  • 28 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jul 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    Valci

    Where does Cabaye play best….in a 433.
    Where did he play his entire career before he came to us … as ACM in a 433.
    What goal did he score on the Euros…from the ACM position.
    The playmaker has freedom to roam. He needs two DM players behind him to liberate him. Cabaye can be a bit clumsy in the tackle imo if he plays too deep. If you peg him back you’ll not get the best out of him. I think he’s good enough to avoid stepping on anyone’s toes BTW.

    We might be disagreeing about nothing much as what you call a 4231 I think is more a slight adapation of a 433 so maybe we view the formations pretty much the same but I see the pure 4231 as an away game defensive formation like the 451. I do not want a lone target man. It is just so boring. (A bit like the Scotland International side.)
    I want to see a three man midfield with two good FBs who can push up the pitch and with DMs bright enough to play deeper to cover counter attacks when Santon and Debuchy are on the rampage. Then a front three who can overlap between flanks and direct attack.
    The centre guy in a 433 needs adaptable too… Torres (not a bad player, just badly managed) has played at his best this season when he has moved out wide and acted as supplier – he might not have had the goals but he has dragged defenders wide and left space for AMs and got a goodly few assists. Cisse does the same…when he’s not banging them in.




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