Newcastle Refuse To Increase Offer For Douglas – Talks Ongoing


News today, which we all could have predicted, that Newcastle are refusing to increase their offer of €4M (£3.1M) for FC Twente Brazilian center-back Douglas, and would you believe that FC Twente want £5M for him, and are standing firm on their valuation of their center-back, who has only one year left on his contract.

Douglas – Newcastle cannot agree fee with FC Twente

Why is this not at all a surprise to us, and in fact we reported on Thursday that FC Twente would turn down Newcastle’s offer outright, which it appears they have done.

That €4M is about £3.1M with today’s exchange rates, and former England manager Steve  McClaren is insisting that Douglas will not be allowed to leave for less than £5M.

As with the case of  Luuk de Jong, which was very similar, there are other clubs in for the 6’4″ Brazilian, and they are said to be West Ham United and Fulham, and maybe they will be willing to get nearer that £5M than Newcastle are.

FC Twente are getting £10M plus some add-ons for Luuk de Jong from Burussia Monchengladbach, and they have plenty of money and are under no pressure to sell again this summer, and Douglas himself has said he may see out the last year of his contract and then be available as a free agent next summer.

And since he will be 25 at that time, we assume no compensation is due to FC Twente for him, and therefore his club will be willing to sell him for anything before next summer.

There will be further talks between Derek Llambias and FC Twente officials this weekend, but it does seem the Dutch club are trying to drive extra hard bargains with Newcastle, after we took Cheick Tiote from them for a measly £3.5M two years ago, and it seems they haven’t forgotten about that deal.

It’s  certainly a hard slog for Newcastle in these transfer negotiations, but there’s no doubt that other clubs have become wary of Newcastle in the transfer market.

And Liverpool are also giving Newcastle some grief over Andy Carroll, after the Tyneside club somehow managed to get £35M for their local striker just 19 months ago, and now Andy want to come back home.

Oh well, such is life, and we’ll just have to wait and see how these deals play out, but Newcastle have yet to make a break-through in their summer quest for new players.

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55 comments so far

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #1

    One day I’m going to wake up to good news … #getsomeonesigned

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #2

    Hopefully no truth in this story.

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  • Tooooon

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #3

    oh what a surprise Newcastles board just dragging their feet again….

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  • ROSHAN MAGPIE

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #4

    teams are jealous of us

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #5

    Tooon,
    Are you Solano.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #6

    I for one, am happy that they are not letting Twente dictate to them!

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  • Munster Mag

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #7

    I think some of the more exciteable goons on this site seem to think that our guys are the only negotiators in town. Well as Twente are showing , and showed with De Jong where they skillfully nailed Borussia for a mint, they are not. Sometimes, you just have to pay up, and the derisory offer that we submitted for Debuchy means that clubs know our form by now, and ignore us, and call our bluff. So pre-season is ongoing, and w have yet to make a breakthrough on a player of note. Oh, but Newcastle wont be taken for mugs will they, eh? Time to get real, LLambias and co.

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  • spitfire_

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #8

    And again Douglas… if isn’t Carroll it will be Douglas… Screw Douglas and move to another target ffs… What the F waiting DL and LC… to made another desperate offers in the 11th hour? FFS… when they will learn how to move on thransfer market…

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  • Munster Mag

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #9

    Roshan, what do you mean, “teams are jealous of us”. Jealous of what? Are you being facetious, or just being dumb?

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  • Munster Mag

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #10

    Spitfire, people who think LLambias and Co are so clever, forget the mad scrample we got involved in, to get the Fulham striker at the last moment . Ruiz ? Its all been covered by the fact that Cisse’s club sold us Cisse at a great price. We are now in preseason, so player integration will be delayed. Not the end of the worls, but brinkmanship will only get us a reputation as mickey takers in transfer dealings. The fact that we can pay cash up front is not everything Ashley. Sometimes u just gotta pay up. Pardew must be so frustrated, but we forgot that as well because his own excellent training covered it up -didnt we? Remember how livid he was when we didnt get the striker at the time???

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  • WWYCD

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #11

    How dare Twente hold out for decent money for a player there is a fair amount of interest in! They should be honoured NUFC bid on their low level player to begin with! If things were just they’d pay us to take him…obviously just picking on us because we bought a player from them a few years ago and he grew into being worth more

    Oh and if Debuchy goes to Inter it won’t be just for money as I read in the last post howay its Inter Milan we are talking about

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  • ROSHAN MAGPIE

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #12

    jealous of our transfer s we have done with such small amount

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  • Nufc-83

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #13

    Munstermong u are making out we are the only club not to have conducted are transfer business. Who has everyone else signed you idiot players are still on holiday etc.

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  • spitfire_

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #14

    Munster Mag

    The failure then to buy the striker wasn’t the end of the world bcoz even so we have plenty of options on the front. Now this Douglas’s saga are going too long and we don’t have any options on the CB… one Colo and the rest is injury prone Saylor and Williamson… put to this and the extra games in Europe and that means that Colo and Saylor must play thursday-saturday/sunday for months!

    And finaly did you remember what was the first season of the last first choise CB which came in Newcastle in mid august (thats Colo by the way)?

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  • pardews plan B

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #15

    @munster but the flip side of the coin is that if we go “oh alright have another million” it makes other clubs say “hey, newcastle will pay a bit extra if we play hardball” which would likely snowball to teams demanding massive fees

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  • pardews plan B

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #16

    AAnd i can’t think of one team who have most of their transfer business out of the way already

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  • geordie157

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #17

    SSSSSSSAAAAAAKKKKKHHHHHHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

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  • pardews plan B

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #18

    Dragging their feet? That’s funny because im reading that offers are being made.

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  • GeordieDan

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #19

    I think a lot of the problem we have with our transfer targets this time around is that we are trying to raid the same clubs again in Twente and Lille.

    We got close to £40 million (by today’s prices)worth of players from their clubs for about £8million.

    No wonder they’re a bit frustrated with NUFC not wanting to budge on offers of £5million for Douglas and £6million ish for Debuchy.

    Fair play to our board for sticking to their guns though. Hope it works but this time around it might not.

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  • Les Grossman

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #20

    Crikey there’s a fickle bunch of W4nK4s on here today! How many teams have made decent signings so far FFs?

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #21

    boring its just the same players just different reports to keep us from totally bored.

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  • Spuggy

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #22

    LOL at people having a go at DL and MA tranfer policy – it’s so terrible it got us £35m for a player worth £10m and then landed Marveaux, HBA, Ba, Tiote, Cabaye, Cisse for free or next to nothing.

    To say nothing about the peanuts we paid for some very good up and coming talent in Vuckic, Abeid, Bigiramana, Amalfitano etc.

    I think they put a valuation on a player for what he is actually worth and stick to is – perfectly sensible. Why pay more then £3m for an unproven PL CB who has a year left on his contract.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #23

    WW…
    Its modern day piracy that a club above their station like PSV or Twente would hold out for a million pound the p*ss takers,I mean what have PSV ever won anyway.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #24

    NUFC-83, dont be silly. It doesnt matter if we are the only club or not ( and we’re not ) . And do you think holidays are that relevant??If that was the case nothing would be done, between the hols of agents, players, buying clubs and selling clubs!! Derisory offers to smart clubs like Twente, whom we nailed once, just dont work. Fans may want us to be seen as hard negotiators – it also helps to present an image of NUFC as realistic buyers too. WWYCD, good point.

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  • Ben3arfa

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #25

    so we up our bid for judas but willing to let douglas go to fullham or west ham when CB is our biggest priority FFS!!

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  • bills-son

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #26

    Munster, so now Ashley and Llambias aren’t clever in the transfer market just because you’ve decided to believe sh%te in the papers?

    Let’s ignore the sh%te and look at the facts – Carroll sold for £35M and HBA, Tiote, Cabaye, Santon, Ba, Cisse, Obertan and Marveaux signed for £30M. And it looks like the young lad Bigi is a steal at £500K and Amaltifino looks good for a free.

    Ashley is experienced enough to know you don’t win every game of bluff in the transfer market – but he wins most of them. And he doesn’t do it by showing his hand to journalists. That’s why paper talk is mostly for sh%te wiping only.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #27

    Spuggy, we are doing well re the young talent ( cos they cost so little probably!!) , but Cisse wasnt free you know, or next to nothing! Marveaux may well have ended up at Liverpool. My point is that sometimes you have to pay up, and its highly unlikely we will get a player of Cabaye’s class “on the sly” now , as clubs like Twente are wise to us since Tiote. Not our fault that they lost out on potentially more money, but I’m sure Pardew must be thinking …”for the sake of 400K, get him in” . That is , assuming , with all due respect to Ashley and co , that what we are reading is correct , and in fairness, none of us are privy to the transfer talks. But if we need 3 more players, we need to get on with it with a tough start of season programme to come.

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  • hoppernufc

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #28

    Find new targets, these players look like there not going to happen

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  • Munster Mag

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #29

    Billson, see my last post, which acknowledges that. I agree with you only in part. Our own image as sensible buyers, and reasonable to do business with, is important too.

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  • colwell

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #30

    Last season WILL bite us in the ass, we made great signings for next to nothing and finished 5th.

    Our profile would have been raised across Europe do we really think we can still sign players under their value all the time?

    That line Pards always mentions during transfer windows will have been pushed further away this time round.

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  • Spuggy

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #31

    Cisse was next to nothing @ 9m believe me, as he will be worth 25m+ next season.

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  • magpie6699

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #32

    We’re doomed!
    It’s relegation time again!
    We haven’t signed anybody yet! We’ve missed out on all 143 of the players the papers linked us with! (Example headline: Toon beaten to signature of Clyne” – wtf!?)
    We might end up being stuck with the likes of Krul, Santon, Colocini, Tiote, Cabaye Ben Arfa, Cisse, Jonas.
    .Ashley out! Pardew out!

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  • geordie157

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #33

    Have faith in the board, they’ll have various options and back ups. It’s clear we need 3 key signings Right Back, Centre Back & a Striker.

    An ideal summer would be Debuchy & Sakho plus a striker i’m yet to decide on. Anyone from Guidetti, Castaignos, Carroll, Zaha or Mirallas.

    But as others have mentioned in the meantime, it gives us and Pards a chance to look at the new signings, plus the likes of Tav, Vuckic, Abeid, etc If Vuckic, Marv plus a few others can stay fit they’ll seem like a new signing!!

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 21, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #34

    @Spuggy

    So long as it doesn’t come down to making stupid last day bids that have no chance just to try and appease the fans.

    I thought we identified our targets early.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jul 21, 2012 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #35

    Magpie666….Do you want to join me in a mass Sports Direct crawl around the country? I’ve devised a plan including explosives that set off fireworks which spell out “ASHLEY OUT” in the sky.

    Should do the trick. I say we start in Newcaslte city centre and set off on horse from there.

    We Ride!

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  • hoppernufc

    Jul 21, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #36

    Les grossman – arsenal-giroud+podolski spuds-vetonghen+sigurdson chelsea- hazard+Marin west ham-miaga+Diame etc etc other clubs have already signed players and good ones aswell!

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  • wynsleap

    Jul 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #37

    magpie6699 @ 32 – calm down man……………and grow up.

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  • nufc.romania

    Jul 21, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #38

    what if we go after another CD like this:
    1. Mamadou Sakho from psg
    2. Angelo Ogbonna from torino fc
    3. Kurt Zouma from saint-etienne
    4. Stéphane Mbia from marseile
    what do you think guys ?

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  • Munster Mag

    Jul 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #39

    Put it this way, I think some of you are so enthralled by Ashley, that if we miss out on a player for the sake of say 500K-1mill , we just say ” we were right , clubs wont take the mickey out of us”….and then we move on , to a target that was les ineteresting to us in the first place. Its not doom and gloom by the way, I just dont want to see us lose out due to brinkmanship, which MA is well known for. Its not that long ago since we ballsed up for Ruiz. Stroke of luck but we were all out for him!!

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Jul 21, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #40

    wynsleap….I think magpie666 was using a little thing called humour?

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