Newcastle Still Deadlocked On All Their Transfer Targets

10:52 am, Monday, July 23rd, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 56 Comments

Most Newcastle fans will be wondering when Newcastle will make a breakthrough in their senior transfers this summer, although it looks like the Tyneside club are in regular communication with the clubs for the players Newcastle are after.

Mathieu Debuchy – still no agreement on fee with Lille

The Evening Chronicle is reporting today that Newcastle are in regular communication with both Lille and FC Twente, with regard to trying to get Mathieu Debuchy and Douglas respectively, to the club.

And Alan Pardew didn’t have any good news today for Newcatsle fans, as he had this to say on Newcastle’s transfer efforts:

“There’s no real progress. The two clubs need to make an agreement on the finance side about the players we’re talking about.” “Unfortunately, there’s no agreement at the moment.”

So it seems that no agreement on price has been reached with all four current transfer targets, which at least is consistent with the news that’s been in the papers.

So no agreement yet on the transfer fees for Mathieu Debuchy, Douglas, Andy Carroll and Loic Remy - if Newcastle have made a bid for the French striker.

While Newcastle do very well in the transfer market and regularly get good (great) deals, it’s a little frustrating for fans, when they hold out so long, at the price they have initially offered, and the deals seem to be stretched out in time.

If the news is to be believed, Newcastle are also in the same position with their Ajax target, Vurnon Anita, so no agreement on price in all five deals, in which the Magpies have put in an offer.

Our understanding is that these are the last (and first) bids Newcastle have made for each of the five players they are after – and it’s probably best to put them in euros, because that’s the currency the clubs will be using except when they are dealing with another English club, as in the case with big Andy:

Mathieu Debuchy €5M
Douglas €4M
Carroll – loan deal for the season with £12M potential deal next May
Loic Remy €12M
Vurnon Anita €5M

Euros are roughly about 0.8 of UK pounds in value at the moment, (0.777 to be exact with today’s rate) – so Loic Remy’s €12M is about £9.6M.

And by the way – only eight days to go until Demba Ba’s release clause runs out in his contract - fingers crossed.

Comments welcome.

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Tags: Loan Moves · Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

56 responses so far ↓

1 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55 AM

we all need to stick to either Euros or £ it gets so confusing
2 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55 AM

“Most Newcastle fans will be wondering when Newcastle will make a breakthrough in their transfers this summer”

Haven’t seen anything to indicate this Ed. Where does he get these ideas from?

Was the Ba clause ending July 31st confirmed by the club? Be nice to have that out of the way and to get our targets, whoever they may be, in and around the team.
3 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 23, 2012 at 10:56 AM

MFH….Shall we debate the benefits or using each different currency? Do you want to be pro pound or euro?
4 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jul 23, 2012 at 10:57 AM

If the bids shown above were in £ they’d be more realistic. If we are going in with such low bids no wonder we are making no progress
5 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 23, 2012 at 10:57 AM

“of, not or
6 t00ntime // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:00 AM

I think mfh means on the blog it self, cause the fees reported are hard to compare when 1 article is in euros and the next in pounds, definatly if u dont notice
7 sfirth13 // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:00 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IveonazDcjg
8 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:01 AM

tOOntime…I got that, was jokingly asking which he would prefer to use (on the blog to avoid such confusion).

Just looking at the pre season schedule…are we playing Friday and Saturday then? Should we expect one strong and one young team or an even mix in both?
9 Bloomin Marveaux-lous // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:02 AM

I personally think we will only sign 1 first team player this Summer.

Debuchy has been on an extended holiday and Nufc have more than likely shown thier diligence, patience and professionalism by not approaching him during his break.

Now that he is back I expect a move in the
Coming weeks. But whom else?

Curtis Good might come in and along with Tav provide defensive cover. The young French striker could also be a good bet and perhaps Anita if he comes available.

Other than that we could do with a left footed LB (a youngster like but not Zeki Fryers) and then I think it’ll be done.

I would love to have more and think we need more if we are to push forward but I think our vision and the boards vision is completely different.
10 MagpiesFlyHigh // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:02 AM

I reckon we should stick to £. UK transfers are in £. We understand it better.. AC went to Liverpool for £35m not 50m Euros.

If Ajax want 9M Euros for Anita that’s 7.5M £ (near enough @ 80%). If we have really bid 5M Euros then that is nearer £4m.

The arithmetic is fairly easy.
11 pardews plan B // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:03 AM

We will make a signing today
12 WorJordi // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Re-post
We will make a signing that allof us are gonna be truly shocked about. Its coming… None of us know anything about who we are after. It’ll just happen and we will all be going like ….Wow never expected him….
13 pardews plan B // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:04 AM

or tomorrow
14 pardews plan B // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Well, at some point
15 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:05 AM

MFH…Indeed. Sterling it is then boys and girls. If you mention a Euro figure from this point on you shall be banished and in some instance hunted and punished.

With our low offers, surely they’re just feeling out the other club, seeing whether the player is interested, etc. You never start high in negotiations, basic business.
16 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:06 AM

PPB….Sounds like the Spanish “manana”. Which I have learned over time, does not mean tomorrow, just not today
17 check the toastie // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Maybe a sneaky 8 million French Franc bid for Debuchy will seal the deal.
18 pardews waxwork lips // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:09 AM

We need some instant additions that add guarenteed quality. Though the youngsters do seem to be going to chip in this season. Our team is very young. With the middle age range being around 21-25 a younger squad also means younger players get there chance. Biggy, abeid both look class acts IMO. Not sure about vuckic he needs a season in the championship. Very happy to see people like Koura on trial. I’m more then happy to have a borderline of great youngsters to step in, but at the very minimun we need to continue getting in these youngsters along with 3 senior or first team squad quality. Our transfer dealings are somewhat like rigor motus!
19 DannyA // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:09 AM

http://www.sport360.com/article/debuchy-misses-lille-training-and-wants-newcastle-move

hmmmmm
20 bazrazmataz // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Why are negotiations so drawn out is what worries me , why do we take weeks to improve our initial offers ?
21 bazrazmataz // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Why are negotiations so drawn out is what worries me , why do we take weeks to improve our initial offers
22 bambams // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:11 AM

What has happened re Curtis Good, surely his 400k is an acceptable fee to pay. Anyone got any ITK info re Good
Starting to get a little anxious that we still have not made the breakthrough
23 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Can’t see us signing Carroll and Remy. If we don’t make a signing by the end of the week, I’ll be extremely worried. Vurnon Anita may be the first to sign.
24 Jail for Ashley // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Ibiza,
A mixture of youth and experince would be prudent with some #%#**# new signings.
25 spitfire_ // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Relaaaax, we have whooooooooooooooooole 26 days until Tottenham game.
26 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:13 AM

baz….Most of the players we’ve been linked with have had genuine good reason for delay.

Debuchy – Away after the Euros
Carroll – Away after the Euros
Douglas – Seems a f*nny and want’s his dutch citizenship
Messi – Just a wee lad and is lost in Newcastle city centre.

Don’t worry, people are reporting back and I reckon we’ll hear something soon. Just don’t be surprised to hear “we’re working on getting 1 or 2 over the line”
27 kkma // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Lille and Troyes have agreed a deal to sign right-back Djibril Sidibé?! Debuchy will come soon ?!
28 ochytoon // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Ibiza
There’s playing hard ball and then there’s being a dick.
29 jesperfuglsang // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM

@Ibiza

I think we should broke the deal in Japanese yen a hard currency with good buying power hehe
30 check the toastie // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM

I’m thinking that an 18million Krohne bid for Douglas should also see the deal ‘over the line’. Reckon his agent only wants another 4 billion Krugerand and the player is ours.

Reckon Scharner could also be ours for 20 million deutsche marks.
31 RobertNufc25 // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM

There taking the piss with that Debuchy offer like.

Offering peanuts for a International Right back.
32 ochytoon // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM

DannyA
He’s still on holiday, that’s why he missed training.
33 Jail for Ashley // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Ibiza,
I’m just dreading the ‘we have enough in the building’ speech.
34 jesperfuglsang // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:17 AM

I gotta ask this again; Do we have Marveaux-lous triplets now or are they just reproducing themselves? :-/
35 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:17 AM

JFA…Sorry mate, having a hard time deciphering those symbols….is someone trapped in a well?

I think a mixture to, as I would “hope” we may see that in the coming season. I know he’s said youth will get more time in the Europa, but surely we’re best to mix it up and ensure we have enough experience within any team we put out to compete.

Be interesting to see the Saturday performance and see how we manage with close games. Never understood this whole “but I played 90 mins a few days ago” nonsense. They’re professional athletes for crying out loud!

Kets…Would be very odd to get both. Some or all is (what did Beardo want us to say instead of sm*k*scr**n?)…., really interested to see who they bring in the end.
36 check the toastie // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Rob – i agree we are defo taking the piss, debuchy is worth paying a bit more for, he has loads of ability.
37 RobertNufc25 // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Plus Lille are probably still raging about us getting Cabaye for next to nowt..
38 DannyA // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Voix du Nord has now reported that Debuchy was due to train with the team on Saturday after his extended break following his efforts with France at Euro 2012. However, Debuchy did not make an appearance and it appears this is a tactic to secure his transfer to Newcastle.
39 Valci // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Ibitza – decoy i think it was
40 SupaToonKid // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Remy’s only got one year left on his contract and Marseilles are not in the best financial situation also Remy wants to test himself in the Premier League so really we should have the upper ground in any negotiations with OM. http://dlvr.it/1v24gy
41 RobertNufc25 // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Dont get me wrong like.
I love the bargain signings.lol

But your sometimeš gonna have to pay the proper price.
42 pieceofpapiss // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Lille have signed a RB called Sidibe from Troyes. Debuchy should be on his way.
43 Markaccus // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Manana ‘in the morning’ or something? Also, if I go into greggs, and the prices are in euros, does that mean we are signing a european player?
44 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Jesper….I made a mistake and fed Ruddy after midnight, now they’re just multiplying at a scary rate. Let’s just make sure we don’t get any of them wet, ok?

Sorry, the currency has been set….please don’t make me call the currency police.

JFA…How could you possibly dread a Pardew speech? Pardew for the new talking clock!

On Transfers / Low bids…I don’t see this stage as hard balling, as I said before, they’re testing the water, if they feel it’s right they will increase their bids.

I do agree however, that £4m for Debuchy is nothing and if that is our “walk away” figure, then i think they may have their valuations off the mark. But what do I know? Absolutely nothing, say it again now, War.
45 jesperfuglsang // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM

@RobertNufc25

Well here is a story for you some Dutch Club I think offered less than £ 1M for Danish International LACM Krohn-Dehli.

Should he then cost £ 6-8 M because he’s an International or does being French add to your value? It seems it does when your English lol
46 WLtoon // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:24 AM

We all know why we are deadlocked in all the supposed targets.its simple really.
Ashley is a tight twat,always will be. Like iv,e said before.the way he penny pinches u would think we were skint. pay the extra million or so to get these players in for f sake and we can look forward.
47 wynsleap // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:25 AM

All of our transfer dealings deadlocked and Pardew now starting to rant daily about how good all of our younger players are and how valuable they are going to be.
If I was the suspicious type I’d think he’s paving the way for very little transfer activity this time round but there again ….. I AM the suspicious type.
I am also prepared to be the waiting type however, but if my suspicions are proved right I’ll really turn into the “Just as I expected and now I’m really p****d off” type.
(Sorry Bill-son)
48 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Valco…Decoy! That’s the one, thank you.

Mark…Manana = Tomorrow. Manana en el manana = Tomorrow morning. That’s pretty much correct, although I am far from fluent and am prone to mistakes and embarrassing moments
49 spitfire_ // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:26 AM

SupaToonKid

Remy has a contract until 2015.
50 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Sounds like they’ve agreed a deal at 5 million euros. Hopefully we can get Debuchy for around £6.5m. We need to kick on.
51 jesperfuglsang // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:27 AM

@Ibiza

You got to follow the instructions that came along with Ruddy mate

…they are not just guidelines you know!
52 WLtoon // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:28 AM

ASHLEY,pay the extra million or so and get these players in .The way this guy penny pinches everyone would think we were skint.
We only got Cisse cos of the Carroll money.
Stop being a miser Mike and spend some of the Europa lg money.
53 Markaccus // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Ah right, cheers ibiza. We never had the chance to take spannish at school. Only german of frog. Its good that this blog has multi-linguals, it helps translate foreign transfer-bollox as well as our own
54 RobertNufc25 // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:37 AM

@Jesper

He’s a top player mate.
Frances first choice rb.

Your not gonna get him for peanuts.

If inter milan pay the proper fee & he signs for them.

You’ll be ragin like the rest of us.
55 jesperfuglsang // Jul 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM

@RobertNufc25

It’s easy to play monopoly since it’s not your money mate

Well, I do think Krohn-Dehli is top notch as well and first choice for Denmark mate

Lets just se if Inter comes in with a higher offer – sometimes you just have to stand your ground as well.
56 Lucasd10 // Jul 23, 2012 at 2:18 PM

I say buy remy,douglas and debuchy and were sorted unless a player goes