We were really surprised when the news broke a few days ago, that Marseilles and French International striker Loic Remy was on the radar screen of Newcastle United, and that the club had even made a bid of €12M for the 25 year-old, a striker Newcastle have tracked for over four years now.
Loic Remy – very good player but hard to get to Tyneside
But it seems the situation at Marseilles is helping Newcastle in their quest to get the lad to Tyneside, and there’s little doubt he is a very good player, with 37 goals in 83 appearances, since joining Marseilles form Nice a couple of years ago.
Marseilles are in financial difficulty and will need to sell some of their players to get the financial books balanced, and the 17 times capped French International has even come out and talked about his possible transfer:
Remy had this to say to Sky Sports:
“I am contracted to Marseille but if the club wants to sell me, there is not much I can do about it.” “The transfer window closes on August 31, so there is plenty of time for something to happen.”
Tottenham are also interested in the player, and even made a bid for him last January, and the news is that Arsenal, who seem almost certain to lose their top Dutch striker Robin van Persie this summer, are also credited with an interest.
But it’s the news on the fee that worries us, because if Marseilles really want around £15M for him as widely reported, we’re not sure that’s a good deal. That’s especially true when he has just one year left on his contract, so maybe a much better deal is possible.
The poll we put out yesterday shows that a majority Newcastle fans do still want him - even at £15M – with 51% wanting him and 39% opposed.
Loading ...If Newcastle an get this lad in for around £10M or less, that would be a very good deal, but we will find it hard to do that – if Spurs’ interest is as real as it seems.
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58 responses so far ↓
1 RonVanDam // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Just buy him or somebody please MA
2 RonVanDam // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:36 AM
I think 15m is good for someone closer to his prime. We could still get a good resale value out of him after 4 years
3 Vader // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:36 AM
Don’t think he’s worth that much and we will probably go in at half the price
4 pardews plan B // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:38 AM
@valci i thought radoi looked class at Bucharest and totally agree he would have suited the Italian game. Shame he never made it big. Imagine sure he’ll always be remembered in his home country though.
5 toonincheek // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:39 AM
We are sending a message to ‘Pool – “why would we spend even £15 million on AC when we could get Remy for the same, or even less?”
6 Ben3arfa // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:39 AM
If we loose Ba then YES , If we dont loose Ba then YES ..
Thats about his market price and i dont care what anyone says he is a MUCH better player than Carroll .
7 Rotonda heights // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:43 AM
Remy has way better movement, pace, skill and mobility than carroll if we are going to pay big money
8 keeping the faith // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:43 AM
Toon totally agree. AC is no where near as good yet we were apparently willing to pay £15mill for him? If its true then I know who I would rather spend the money on!
9 Valci // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:44 AM
PPB – it was really a classic case of a club demanding more then the player’s worth in the end. He missed out on a few opportunities and his morale was low…like i said…he never seemed the same. But yeah…he probly wont be forgotten especially by Steaua fans as he was their captain…personally i hate that club hehe.
10 Spoof // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:45 AM
He was rated as a 20m player before he entered the final year of his contract, even at 15m he would be a great signing, 10m would be a major suprise, final year or not you cannot expect to get these players in at those prices
11 Valci // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:46 AM
37 goals in 83 appearances – not really a 15mil player imho. If gonna spend big at least get a striker thats closer to 1/2 then 1/3.
12 Munster Mag // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Rotunda, that criticism of Hatem doesnt stand up. What Hatem is saying is that we will get the best of Debuchy’s career, and it might help keep Cabaye. Both points make sense. The guy is a talented player and probably worth 7mill . If this is teh valuation, pay up. Their chairman may be upping the price – but who says this is true? Maybe our guy is doing the opposite. After all, apparently we bid a derisory 4mill to start with ……how not to be taken seriously?? For goodness sake, we value Simmo at about 3mill ?? I appreciate there may be many factors involved here, but so far we have stalled on all ouir targets at senior level – maybe NUFC / MA is the common denominator?
13 pardew no 1 // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:48 AM
im not sure about this one 15 million its going to be another gervino and we all be disappointed that “we couldn’t get are targets over the line”
14 Tsunki // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:50 AM
I would be happy if Llambias just went to the pet shop, bought a puppy, called it Mathieu, and gave it to Pardew as a present.
15 gfp13 // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:51 AM
Final year of contract and a club in a bit of financial bother. That could lead to a bit of a lower fee being accepted. But I think this guy is the type of forward we need, someone with a bit of pace to burn bug who can also finish chances when it comes. He also fits into a 433 using him as a winger. This guy would be great and I’d love him here but whether it will happen I don’t know
16 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Does anyone know how big this “line” we’re trying to get people over is?
Perhaps if we understood this we could be more patient whilst the players cross it?
17 Marty-Toon // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:53 AM
We are still waiting so.
He doesn’t have the prowess in the air that Carroll has but he’s quicker,got a better touch and movement is better so 15 for a decent striker ain’t bad but when we got Cisse for 9 million just shows cheaper deals are available.
It must be getting harder for Carr to pluck these gems for next to nothing while keeping it under the radar of other PL clubs
18 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:53 AM
Tsunki….The PL Puppy league?
19 Valci // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:54 AM
Ibitza – perhaps theres a problem with the boarder patrols since we’re having such a hard time getting them “across the line” hehe
20 Valci // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:55 AM
*border* i mean ffs…too many typos today.
21 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:55 AM
Ibiza,
It must be a lot bigger than a one even Daniella Westbrook had up her nose.
22 pardew no 1 // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:56 AM
did you guys know that carr scouted joe hart for less then a million and we might get remy coz he might be ben arfas mate
23 Tsunki // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:57 AM
Its maybe the siegfried line or the maginot line. Its a big line anyhoo. And its a very tiny door, and it’s jammed shut. And its a building with no doors or windows.
24 newcben // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:57 AM
For £15m I’d much rather see us get Sturidge, he is desperate for 1st team football, is English, young and has prem experience. He can play so many dif positions as well and even lead the line on his own. Hopefully Curtis Good will provide enough cover so we can use money else where to secure Debuchy, CM, CF.
——————-Krul——————
Debuchy—STyalor—Colo—Santon
————-Tiote—Anita————–
HBA———-Cabaye——–Sturidge
—————–Ba———————-
Bench:
Elliott
Willo
RTaylor
Jonas
Marv
Cisse
25 barcodejoe // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:57 AM
we need to stop pussy footing about and get some of these players on board asap. pay the money for Debuchy and douglas and Remy. forget sometimes you just have to pay the proper price, then the squad can concentrate on pre-season training…..oh and forget Carroll he hasnt got a patch on Remy.
26 Tsunki // Jul 25, 2012 at 9:59 AM
Oh and nobody knows where any of them are because they are invisble. Except to Australians.
27 Valci // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Batcodejoe – personally id rather have Carroll but thats a matter of preference i guess. The actual question is who sets the “proper” price??
28 Eli Clarkson // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Sturridge also has a fatal illness and could put clubs off .. Sucha shame for the lad , pure english talent
29 Valci // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:02 AM
hah sorry Joe…misspelled your name. I did say i was prone to typos today.
30 Spreadthetoon // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Pls get sign seal and deliver Pards n MA now…enough of playing hardball.
Remy
Douglas
Debuchy
Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa – ready to leave Montpellier – would be awesome if we signed this lad
Anita
31 Colo-Sus // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:03 AM
There are some right nuggets on here these days like, bring back the realists.
32 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Valci if we were to pay £15 mil id rather remy over carroll think remy is a much better all round player and can play up front and on either wing
33 Valci // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Colo-sus – do you mean the ones that just throw around “lists” of players that we should get? … if so i agree.
34 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:06 AM
Rather than the optimists? Surely it’s good to have a balance.
Maybe the “line” is a conga line…you try getting over that quickly…da da da da da da HEY!
35 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM
If that’s what Colo means then yes, get them outta here. There’s optimism then stupidity, and that’s a thin line compared to Mike’s transfer one
36 pardews waxwork lips // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Sorry to say like valci but 37 in 83 is only 4 and a half goals from 1 every 2 games…. In order for him to be closer to 1 goal every 3 games his stats would read around 37 goals in 111 games. Meaning he would have to go on a goaless drought four around 30 games. Some peoples logics for and against transfers make me laugh. I would love remy here but personally think it won’t come off if it does I will get a tattoo of joe kinnear on my arse!!
37 gfp13 // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Newcben
Cisse bench?
38 JDdubai // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Right now Id rather we were put into administration so we would know we werent going to buy anyone! Tired of waiting, get Michael Owen back!!!!!!!!!!
39 Valci // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:10 AM
waxwork – my appologies…its 1 every 2,24 games… somehow in my head it was around 2,8 or so. Have to remember to double check my math lol.Still think we could do better at 15mil though.
40 Valci // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Tads – that’s a matter of preference. I prefer one type of player to the other thats it. I also see Carroll having a brighter future for some reason.
41 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Valci aye obviously its all about personal prefrence i just have some reservations about andy did put a post up yesterday about it ill see if i can find be intresting to your opinion you always have a sensible say!
42 newcben // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:18 AM
@gfp13
I think people are to quick to forget, iv said it before and il say it again Ba was unreal at start of season and his all round play is better than Cisse in my opinion. I think he maybe a one season wonder….I hope I’m proved wrong but I feel sorry for Ba the way he has been cast to one side, the shift he put in for the team out wide made it possible for Cisse to bag those goals and i feel Ba would of grabbed a hat full if he was kept through the middle. Again its personal opinion I just rate Ba over Cisse.
43 pardews waxwork lips // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:20 AM
Remy is a french international. Not far of being one in every 2 games.IMO you could buy a player with a better goal scoring record from france but can they transfer there qualities. We have to remember remy the last season or two has been in transition from winger to a CF. This is the exact player we need to play on the wing or cf!
44 Szarka // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Wont pay more then 10 for a player with only one year of hes contract. He may worth 15, but only if he had gotten a longer contract.
Getting fed up with Debuchy case too, if we cant get him fast , then buy someone else.
45 barcodejoe // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Valci
Your right, each has their own opinion. Remy has the pace and movement, he is over 6ft and good in the air, can play on the wing or through the middle, and he is available for less than we would have to pay for Carroll (who only plays one way) and we dont play that system anymore.. I just think we need to shell out a bit of cash to get some of these players over the line.
46 gfp13 // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:45 AM
It is personal opinion yes and I respect that I was just quizzicle as to why ba or cisse. I do remember ba at start minus the Ramadan period and he was great but cisse has a record which is hard to put him on bench. If a player is scoring you have to play him basically IMO but everyone is entitled to their own
47 Lee Dodd // Jul 25, 2012 at 10:55 AM
I Think its a Case of If We Get Him Good or If Not We WILL Get Carroll back !!!!! Remy Would be a Better Buy But We desperatly Need a Striker Come what may !!!If The Dembas Get Injured Then Shola is Not The Man to get The Job Done. He is an Impact Sub !!!
48 Munster Mag // Jul 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Ibiza, without being a board basher, and acknowledging the smart stuff they have done, i think a thread runs through their dealings which doesnt always work.
You see, if a player represents a good deal, then we are keen, even if the player would still have represented fair value for a higher sum. Thus, we seem to stall on Debuchy whom I guess is worth 7-8 million, even though that represents fair and reasonable value. Put it this way, if he was worth 10mill, and his contract was nearly up and price dropped to £7, we would be all over him!! At times you just have to pay up……and for fans to keep saying “in carr we trust” doesnt make sense ….because Carr will have recommended him! So if we trust Carr, get Debuchy. We have the money to do it. And dont offer derisory sums like 4mill for a player who is obviously worth more – it just makes NUFC look silly. If Spurs did it we’d accuse them of unsettling our player. In other words, would we have got Cabaye if he had more left on his contract , and therefore cost more ? Probably not. And this approach , whilst financially prudent, does not always mean you make the most of the trasfer possibilities out there.
49 Munster Mag // Jul 25, 2012 at 11:57 AM
In other words, we’d probably go for Remy at 12 mil if it saved 3 mill , rather than pay 7mill for a fullback who simply costs 7 mill. Getting the best “deal” is not always the best way to conduct business – it depends on the circumstances. Sometimes there is no fancy deal. Put it this way, if you book an upmarket holiday , you may just have to pay the full asking price, whatever that it . There may be better “deals” elsewhere , but the original upmarket holiday may actually represent the smarter buy ( and no, I’m not a travel agent!
)
50 Zero // Jul 25, 2012 at 12:06 PM
we carnt possibly sign him, one blog members d*ck will explode and another will end up with a silly tattoo on their arse. lol
But id rarther they spend £12million on Remy and £5-6 million on Guidetti than come close to meeting the £20million asking price for AC.
On the spending of cash on Remy and not Debuchy they are two seperate issues, we will need a striker come ACON, good strikers are expensive. We have defensive cover ATM and can sign any number of good defenders in January or even later in this window such as Sakho, Anita or Douglas.
51 newcben // Jul 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM
@gfp13
I totally agree with you that Cisse should and will start at the start of the season because of the way he finished last year. I think over the season Ba will regain his spot. I hope im proved wrong when I say Cisse could fade away for a bit I just think he misses to many sitters while scoring goals that just seem unscorable (not a word I know) ha. With the addition of another top quality striker I believe if any of them hit a dip in form there will be enough quality there for another to take the mantle for that period.
52 toonincheek // Jul 25, 2012 at 12:18 PM
Would you say Debuchy’s form last year was similar to that of Enrique in his last year with us?
Both coming into the last year of their contracts.
But – Enrique proved in the PL.
So – Debuchy worh a but less than Enrique?
And how much did we get for Enrique?
A lot of variables though – timing, situation, Liverfool buying.
53 toonincheek // Jul 25, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Wonder how we would all feel if we bought AC for £15 million (less than half what we sold him for), cash up front – and ‘Pool went out the next day and bought Remy for £15 million.
54 Munster Mag // Jul 25, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Thats a good post Toonincheek. I’d take either but Remy would make more sense. I dont think the club is all that concerned about getting Carroll and i dont think we will get him – maybe next season when he is fed up of the Liverpool style and sitting on the bench, and they are tired of paying him 80K a week for little return. Remy would be a great buy. I am also beginning to think that we need to stop doing business with Twente ( too clever for us….they used us well to sting Borussia IMO ) and Lille ( chairman who cant seem to see the wood from the trees by the look of it ) . They remind me of Deportivo…..bonkers. Maybe Marseilles have a more sensible chairman. If so, and if the Remy rumour is true, lets try to do fair business with them, and start off with a good, solid, reasonable offer. Knowing MA, our opening bid will be about 6 million, followed by derision from Marseilles, and the start of a pointless negotiation.
55 toonincheek // Jul 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM
Munster – agree about Twente – but with De Jong involved on their side, as he always wanted to stay in Germany.
Agree about AC as well – it’s a bit too soon for ‘Pool to cut their losses – the £35 million is still a bit too fresh in their minds.
AC, though, would offer us good options.
Shola has often come on as sub for the last 15 minutes, helped out in defence and given a good physical presence up front when we need to disrupt the opposition and give them different problems.
AC could do the same, only better.
56 Phil K // Jul 25, 2012 at 1:48 PM
Averaging 1 goal every 2 games as a “2nd striker” that also plays on the wings ?
That’ll do me.
Sign the lad up !
57 JAMSHA // Jul 25, 2012 at 1:57 PM
£15 mil? yes get him
58 stevetoon85 // Jul 25, 2012 at 5:05 PM
Ed…..He has 3 years left on his contract!!!!
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