Brendan Rodgers – I Don’t Want To Push Carroll Out The Door


Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has insisted that Andy Carroll is happy to stay at Anfield, and we’re sure that’s true, but only if Andy will get sufficient playing time at Liverpool, and the Geordie lad has always said he would prefer to remain at Liverpool and fight for his place there.

Brendan Rodgers – Carroll’s in my plans – homnest!

But that’s not the question – the real question is how much playing time will he get next season, with Rodgers playing a Barcelona style of football, where the Spanish powerhouse have 5’7″ Messi as their center forward, and hardly ever cross the ball high into the box, which is how Brendan’s former club Swansea also played. Yes we know Lionel is the best player in the world. 😀

It seems that Rodgers is happy enough with the way Andy has trained and played over the last week in America, since he joined up with the squad in Boston last Monday, and of course Andy has always been a popular player in the dressing room, and he is that at Liverpool.

Andy did get some playing time today, as he came off the bench in Liverpool’s pre-season 0-0 draw with  Tottenham in Baltimore today,  with the temperature at 96°F, and Rodgers says Andy is in his plans for next season.

The new Liverpool manager was asked if Liverpool had received any offers for Carroll, and this is what  he said:

“Not that I am aware of. Obviously I’ll know more when we get back.” “There has been a lot written about Andy, but you saw today he’s happy to be here and he’s worked very well since he’s been here.”

“The reality is he’s still a Liverpool player, he can fit into how I want to play, and he’s happy here.” “I’m certainly not wishing to push him out of the door.”

Brendan is doing the PR bit, and he’s hardly going to say at a news conference that’s news around the world, that a player who cost Liverpool £35M doesn’t fit in with his plans is he?

He’s not that foolish – and Andy’s transfer fee has already caused enough embarrassment for the famous Merseyside club.

But what Brendan really thinks we’ll have to wait to find out, but Carroll’s advisers have said they have been told Carroll is not in Liverpool’s future plans under Rodgers.

And managers these days don’t get involved much with the transfers, and they are usually handled by the Chairman and the Boards, because they are all about the financials – the transfer fee and how it will be paid, and the compensation to be paid to the player over the length of the contract.

So Brendan wouldn’t know if offers have been received for Andy or not.

There have been reports that both Newcastle and West Ham United have put in offers for a loan deal, which includes a permanent transfer next May, with Newcastle bidding £13M for him and West Ham presumably bidding £17M.

But if the news is to be believed,  Andy has said that if he does go out on loan he wants it to be to an English club who have qualified for European competition, and Newcastle meet those requirements – West Ham do not.

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45 comments so far

  • Beardo Ameobi

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:16 AM

    Comment #1

    So that completes his backtrack then.

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  • Ben Arfa (Either love him or Hatem)

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:18 AM

    Comment #2

    Just sign Remy!

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  • Spuggy

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:24 AM

    Comment #3

    Yawn.

    Round and round and round…………

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  • RobertNufc25

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #4

    Sign Remy instead.

    Move forward not backwards!

    Bish bash bosh!

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  • RobertNufc25

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM

    Comment #5

    If Ashley was gonna spend 20 million on somebody you’d like it to be a top player.

    Well I would anyway.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:33 AM

    Comment #6

    Just sign Remy, Alderewereild, Anita, Brahimi and Debuchy.

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  • JAMSHA

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    Comment #7

    yes get remy or insted use 14mil on dejong

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  • superkrul

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:37 AM

    Comment #8

    Dejong don’t signed for munchengladback how ever that is pelt lol

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  • superkrul

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #9

    Dejoung has * stupid fone

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  • AmericanGeordie

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    Comment #10

    I attended the game in Baltimore today. Very partisan Liverpool crowd, as expected. Andy Carroll was very well received by the Reds faithful. He ran hard, and the fans chanted his name.

    It is very clear that the Liverpool supporters (at least the US based ones) do not blame Andy that his performance has not been commensurate with the daft price that Dailglish paid for him.

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  • Tsunki

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    Comment #11

    ketsy how come you never answer any questions? come on lad just own up you’re trolling from .co.uk arent you?

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  • pardews plan B

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #12

    The logic of British people: Huge Olympic opening ceremony- £27 million
    Andy Carroll-£35 million

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  • RobertNufc25

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #13

    West ham or Stoke is Carrolls best bet.

    Or some other hit and hope team.

    Looked lost at liverpool last season when they actually played football & didn’t hoof it back to front.

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  • shearerclass09

    Jul 29, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    Comment #14

    the difference is tax payers paid for the Olympics rich American idiots paid for carol. but on the plus side marvo looked sharp and got some weird boat looking trophy for our newly built carbonate hwtl

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  • JAMSHA

    Jul 29, 2012 at 1:12 AM

    Comment #15

    looks like good has been signd . his in newcastle squad in as shown in wiki

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_United_F.C.

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 29, 2012 at 1:18 AM

    Comment #16

    Ketsbaia9, there is no chance of Toby alderweireld going anywhere! He wants to stay at Ajax and they want to keep him! Itd take ridiculous fee and wages to get him! Not sure why you want brahimi, anyone that’s watched ligue1 knows he’s very poor! Has 1 goal and 1 assist from 80 odd appearances…..
    Anita is a good player, I think his agent is using Newcastle to drive up interest from elsewhere tho! I think we’ll take Douglas on deadline day tbh
    As for Remy, I really think hel get a champions league team, honestly think we’ll take Carroll back! Carroll, Douglas and Debuchy with no1 leaving would be an amazing window!

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  • LGFUAD21

    Jul 29, 2012 at 1:24 AM

    Comment #17

    My take on tonight.

    We weren’t brilliant. but we were not poor either. i think we showed flashes of good play but were rusty in parts (it’ll come though in time).

    Did see some improvements though and i think training is kicking in a bit.

    Sammy looked decent for a young inexperienced lad. Showed confidence to take on players and did at times. Was strong on the ball but to no avail. end product needs work.

    Marveaux didnt get a proper chance to show his value to the team. Everything went through Sammy on the right when we should have mixed it up more and brought Marv into the game.

    I though Raylor looked decent enough at LB with Jonas covering (like beginning of the season). This would have worked if we had been able to involve Marveaux int the game. Who i think, if he can stay fit, will prove to be a quality addition to our team.

    Cisse did not look sharp tonight. Hopefully that will come.

    The problem with a 442 formation is that strikers can become isolated and even look a bit redundant if the midfield isnt controlling the game or functioning perfectly.

    I though Obertan looked lively when he came on. Is growing BUT very slowly. Made some half decent runs and his movement and passing was better tonight. I still have hope for the lad.

    Vuckic was in the hole and had very little end product, still want to see this lad shine.

    Was disappointed not to see Amalfitano.

    Tav did look decent and calm for such a young and inexperienced player in CB when he is a RB. Growing confidence in the guy.

    Simmo showed more attacking ambition at times but Sammy often ran ahead rather than using him for support.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Jul 29, 2012 at 1:26 AM

    Comment #18

    Olympic ceremony was £40m btw

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  • magpiekazza

    Jul 29, 2012 at 2:13 AM

    Comment #19

    Hey us tax payers don’t mind shipping in for a party. After all you don’tt mind us paying your dole.

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  • magpiekazza

    Jul 29, 2012 at 2:14 AM

    Comment #20

    Hey us tax payers don’t mind chipping in for a party. After all you don’t mind us paying your dole!

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  • ashwin say's

    Jul 29, 2012 at 4:18 AM

    Comment #22

    its simple ….. he is trying to raise the price

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  • ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~

    Jul 29, 2012 at 6:23 AM

    Comment #23

    @Ashwin say’s

    In my opinion, his price has been raised far too high already.
    With the exception of Carroll, all the young english lads that have move clubs recently have moved for a fee ranging between 10-20mill. (Ox-lade, Young, Downing, Henderson, Phil Johnson) and I’m sure many liverpool fans will agree that they overpayed for Henderson and Downing as well, (just not as much as they did for Carroll) So it’s safe to say that Carroll’s value would have been in that price range prior to being sold to liverpool. A season and a half later, 42 games and 6 goals which is poor. His value is still at 10-20mill? Surely after such a poor run of form, his value would have had to drop.

    Now take into consideration, that in today’s market if your young, English and have potential, thats already an additional 5 or so million added to your “value” when compared to majority of players of equal age, and potential from abroad.

    Another thing, you have to take into consideration is the fact that Liverpool will want to recoup as much as possible, therefore increasing his price further.

    Therefore taking all this into consideration, you can argue that Carroll is not worth the prices reported in the news.

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  • ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~

    Jul 29, 2012 at 6:29 AM

    Comment #24

    I just don’t see how getting Carroll for around 10-17mill now equates to getting him on the cheap. Liverpool payed like 20-25mill over his “value” (10-15mill after half a season in the PL…)

    All we would be doing is paying the amount Carroll was worth (or even more then he was worth) when he was at Newcastle. Therefore his price wouldn’t have change (possibly increased) while his form has dropped.

    This doesn’t sound like a good value for money deal at all.

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  • Deshmukh

    Jul 29, 2012 at 6:36 AM

    Comment #25

    Just sign Messi already!

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Jul 29, 2012 at 7:24 AM

    Comment #26

    Could we just leave Carroll alone, he is a Liverpool player he not unhappy and BR has not said he want him to leave.

    We debate this too much; there is even way too many article about this 🙂 could we just get back to basic and talk about something relevant?

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  • indian

    Jul 29, 2012 at 7:24 AM

    Comment #27

    deshmukh …are you a Marathi ?

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  • nimo

    Jul 29, 2012 at 7:56 AM

    Comment #28

    I have it on good authority messi is holding out for 20k a week but ashley feels he’s no nicky butt so has offered 15k with a 2k goal bonus so at minute theres a bit of a stand off.. he’s also unsure y pardew wants to sign a hba wannabe when we have the real thing

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  • NUFCWill1986

    Jul 29, 2012 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #29

    @debuchy on.. So if i grow a carrot, sell it for 35mil then buy it back at a discounted price with years and years to grow..that is a terrible deal?

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Jul 29, 2012 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #30

    NufcWill

    But why wouldn’t you just buy a better and cheaper carrot for that money; make a sound investment.

    Economy 101! and never get emotionel involved in a deal, if so walk away 😉

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  • nimo

    Jul 29, 2012 at 8:24 AM

    Comment #31

    Jesper who would your better cheaper carrot b

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  • Cissefire12

    Jul 29, 2012 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #32

    Brendan…..we are not bidding £20m for him……end of!
    he obviously has no intention of playing Carroll from the start in matches, I’m pretty sure Carrol’s gonna be very unhappy being on the bench and the owners will be livid that they are wasting a tonne of wages (let alone the £35m he cost them) on a substitute!

    Take the money!!

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jul 29, 2012 at 8:37 AM

    Comment #33

    Andy carroll is just not worth any where near the money liverpool want for him he is worth £10 mil tops no ones gonna convice me just because hes english means hes worth mire than double what we paid for cisse huge waste of investment if we push this deal through
    Especially with players like remy n guidetti on our radar apparantly
    Remy us being touted for £15 mil but if the club our desperate we could prob get a fair chunk off of that
    Even sturridge is apparantly available for under £12 mil and would much rather see him than carroll
    I think we need a player whos is a fcuk of alot more versatile than carroll and can play at least 2 positions up top

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  • elpaso_geordie

    Jul 29, 2012 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #34

    i see Luc Castiagnos went to FC Twente yesterday. Maybe missed out there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #35

    @nufcwill 1986

    You completely missed the point.
    If you buy back the Carrot and its quality is the same or it has improved, then yes thats a good deal

    But in this case the carrot has withered, after having 1 and a half seasons to prove its worth. Therefore its value has to have dropped, so paying the same price the carrot was worth when you first sold it would be silly, when the price mentioned for it does not = the value.

    Just because liverpool overpayed to get Carroll, doesn’t mean we have to overpay to get him back.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #36

    Perhaps we should wait for January to buy Carroll?

    If he fails at Liverpool in the first half of the season, we may get him cheaper.
    If he’s a success at Liverpool then 18M might begin to look cheap and we’ll have missed our chance.

    I see Carroll as a replacement for Shola.
    If he comes home I don’t think he’ll be tempted to leave again.
    So we’ll be signing him for ten years.

    I’d like him back but I’m prepared to gamble on a January bid.

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  • nimo

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #37

    12 million for sturridge the.. Most over rated , biggest headed player around .. Throws his dummy out at chelsea n man city cos he’s not there main striker .. Simply cos he’s a bit of pace ppl seem to think he’s good… Only saw him have 1 good game this yr n that was against raylor having a bad day..

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  • ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #38

    @ToonArmyDownSouth 33

    totally 100%… no… 200% agree with your point.

    Carroll is simply not worth it… especially at the inflated prices being banded about the internet.

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  • geordielad95

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #39

    Ha! Love the carrot talk.
    Can we not just stick a carrot upfront? What other vegetables can we have

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #40

    If you chop Andy Carrott’s head off and put it in a saucer of water on your kitchen window sill, will his pony-tail keep on growing?

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