Newcastle Target And Manager Still at Loggerheads

Both the Lille manager Rudi Garcia and Mathieu Debuchy have spoken out yesterday, on the transfer deadlock of the French International right back, but what they have to say seems nothing new, and Lille seem to be continuing to drag their feet, and hope that Mathieu will still be with the French club at the start of the season.

Mathieu Debuchy – upset at Lille’s stance

Debuchy did have his first action in pre-season on Friday night in a friendly against Athletic Bilbao, but it seems that Rudi Garcia is still hoping the player will change his mind and stay on at the club he joined as a youngster:

“We could not play him for more than 30 minutes.” “Of course I would rather keep him, but whatever happens, he must be ready.”

“There are deadlines for France – 15th August. I hope he will still be with us for the start of the season at Saint-Etienne and if this is not the case it means we will have found a substitute who is just as good.”

Lille did sign right-back Djibril Sidibé, 20, from ES Troyes for around £2M early last week, and surely that is the replacement they said they needed to sign,  before they would let their top player move to Newcastle.

But of course there is still no agreement on the fee between the two clubs, although there were noises over the last few days, that Newcastle will sign a new player later this week, and it was thought to be Mathieu.

But Debuchy is still talking as though Lille still have to sign a replacement for him, before he can move on, and here is what the 9 times capped French International had to say about the stalemate yesterday:

“Lille want to sign a replacement before they let me go.”  “Ten or 15 players have been offered to the directors, but they always make up something else.”

“They should consider being more flexible.”  “The attitude Lille have shown disappoints me.”

Mathieu has played for the Lille first team for eight years now and has almost 300 appearances for them, so it doesn’t look good on Lille that they are frustaring a player who has been a great servany to the club.

And now this saga is almost the longest running one of this transfer window, although come to think of it maybe it’s the Douglas move, or porposed move of Douglas form FC Twente to newcatsle.

Why do these long running affairs, which get a bit tortuous when they go on for so long,  are nearly always when Newcastle are involved?

That’s because we drive a very hard bargain, but sometimes we wish Newcastle would pay up the extra million or so to get their man, but they are not going to do that it seems, well not this summer anyway.

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30 comments so far


    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #1

    Anyone watch the match yesterday?

    I think we should sign that Jose Luis, the big lad that came off the bench for Braga.

    He looked a right hand full, full of tricks, tall, strong.

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #2

    Ed ….. Same story again … its Groundhog Day


    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #3

    José Luís Mendes Andrade
    21 years old

    I think he looks a quality player

  • jesperfuglsang

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #4

    Well in all honesty if Mathieu really want to leave all he has to do is ask for a transfer 😉

    Since he hasn’t done that I am not that convinced about is longing for a move to us.

    It seems he is content to stay but alto content about moving to us. Which is it?

  • geordie157

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #5

    The friendlies have been decent in terms of building fitness, playing youngsters etc. but its also confirmed we lack real depth in two key areas centre back and striker

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #6


    If Debuchy asks for a transfer he’ll lose out on loyalty bonuses and his percentage of the transfer fee, depending on his contract of course.

    As Lille don’t want to sell, perhaps putting in a transfer request is the morally right thing to do?

  • Les Grossman

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #7

    Maybe the new signing early this week is that good kid, and everybody just putting 2 n 2 together and coming up with debuchy?
    Let’s just wait and see!
    Think well defo have 2-3 players in before window slams shut!
    Ps don’t think our centre half position is looking as week these days with tavernier and dummet giving excellent accounts of themselves in last few days!

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #8

    Les have to agree tav looked fantastic at cb

  • jesperfuglsang

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #9


    Newcastle can only do so much the rest is up to Debuchy 🙂

    If money is is issue then he can stay 😉

  • Les Grossman

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #10

    My concern about debuchy is this!
    Manure need a decent RB
    Chelski need a Decent RB
    Im sure a lot of the bigger teams need a decent rightback, so WHY haven’t any of these teams, who have money to burn, offered Lille their valuation?
    Just a thought

  • davybtoon

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #11

    Got to agree I think tavernier has been excellent at cb looks a real talent, n dummitt looks good to but I would use him at lb

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #12

    Tav looked good playing the ball out. An improvement on Willo.
    He did get pulled out of position a few times. Which caused us problems.

    But that can be coached, but he’s nowhere near ready for the EPL.

  • davybtoon

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #13

    Debuchy n Curtis good will sign next week I reckon, am hoping for Douglas remy n Anita b4 end of window

  • Les Grossman

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #14

    Also thought Simpson had a good game last night!
    Let’s just keep him! And remember, the stats showed him as one of the best RB in the league last season! Keep him and get a youngster to push him for his place! Should have maybe tried for clyne!

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #15


    I’d settle for that 🙂

    Then Carroll in January 😉

  • Les Grossman

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #16

    Sorry mate but there is no chance of us signing all those!
    Anita in particular, not needed!

  • davybtoon

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #17

    Disagree I think all are young ones are ready for the prem bigi n abeid lookin brilliant in midfield, Tav fantastic next to colo, sammi tricky on the wings with fergie(injured) then vukic who has prob not had the best of pre season but when he dropped deeper in fri he showed what he’s all about great player that’s 6 players to add real quality to the squad n then u hav Curtis good who sounds great player

  • LewSpi

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #18

    This transfer window worries me. Last season we had the majority of our signings wrapped up by end of June, which meant the team had pre season to gel, this almost definitely contributed to our blinding start to the season.

    I dont want to sound like an impatient and petulant school child but here we are, with just over 2 weeks to go and we still haven’t signed a defender or a striker. What’s the crack Dezza?

  • davybtoon

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #19

    Wouldn’t mind gouffran aswell

  • davybtoon

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #20

    Don’t agree Anita is needed to jus sit with tiote n allow cabaye to move forward

    Don’t worry ppl deals take time n teams are trying to stop us getting players so cheap which holding things up, the Douglas deal is being held up bcoz there 3 agents all wanting there slice of cash otherwise he would b a toon player by now

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #21

    I’d like to keep Simmo too, he gets criticised for not playing it out along the floor.

    As a full-back he usually has the touch-line alongside him.
    So he has 50% less options for passing than a central player.
    So he can only pass along the ground infield … often into a potentially more dangerous area.
    If he’s got a few opponents around him, hoofing it is often the safest option.

    Pardew wants him or there wouldn’t be a contract offer.
    If Pardew wants him then he must think he’s good enough.

    That’ll do for me.

  • RobertNufc25

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #22


  • bollance

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #23

    Davyb has hit the nail on the head. We have been reserved in the transfer window as pardew has waited to see what he has in terms of his squad before he has moved into transfer market. The youngsters have been a real bonus and do mean we don’t need to strengthen to the same degree. We may get an injury an if we do then we have the cash (presumably) to get a replacement in!

    I also think hold up with debuchy is fact we can’t sell Simo rather then problems at debuchy end. I also think this happened last year with Enrique having to wait to go to the fools until we found a replacement. Remember we got santon late on just after Enrique went.

  • GeordieDan

    Jul 29, 2012 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #24


    He looked a very good player when he came on. But one good game doesn’t make anyone a top player and I know nowt about the lad other than what we saw last night.

    Stola looks like Drogba on steroids when we play Sunderland! 😀

    Divvnt worry though Graham Carr will know enough about the kid.

  • 5Danny94

    Jul 29, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #25

    Personally, I wouldn’t sign Anita. We have a few options for left-back – Santon, Raylor, Jonas, Fergie – and I’d rather see someone like Bigi or Abeid get a push as a CDM than Anita. If we signed Anita I’d be very, very surprised if he ended up right in the starting XI.

  • voodoo85

    Jul 29, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #26

    anyone explain what he means when he says “deadlines for France – August 15th”

    whats this deadline, their first match is on 11th August so its not start of season ??

  • jesperfuglsang

    Jul 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #27

    Beats me voodoo85 😉

    I am not so concerned about the Debuchy transfer; Lille will sell eventually.

    I think Debuchy wants to leave – he just need to show it is not a money thing for him…or else I am put of 🙂

  • wynsleap

    Jul 29, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #28

    I would love to know why people are putting so much faith in our young players stepping into the breach this season?
    Seeing as Vuckic, Tavernier, Abeid, Sameobi etc. weren’t anywhere near being regarded as players ready to step into the first team a short while ago, how come they have suddenly blossomed as top performers in around 3 months?
    Sure they may all have great potential (although not so sure about Vuckic making it) but it seems to me to be a case of clutching at straws seeing as our current first team recruitment is about as effective and successful as McCartney’s performance at the Olympic Opening Ceremony.

  • Les Grossman

    Jul 29, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #29

    Anita is not needed! Spend the 4-5 m elsewhere!
    Bigi n Tiote are enuff, cabaye, abied, vukic, gosling, gutti, perchino too many CM’s!
    As for playing him at LB ? He is a CM!! Played at LB on a handful of occasions and I’m told he is woeful there!!!
    Maybe a Centre back striker and RB will do!

  • aussiemag

    Jul 30, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #30

    Mate you must have been hibernating last year my friend. Harris Vukic was having a cracker season in both cup games and the league respectfully before he broke his finger. Same goes for Sammy Ameobi he was strong in cups and also wasnt too bad when he stepped up in the league. Also did not Mehdi Abeid last week come on and score a goal against Fenerbache? I could be wrong though:-). And as for your comments on James Taviner even Peter Beardsley the meastro himself stated that he was ready for the big time even good enough to replace Simpson who had a pretty solid season as well. SO ARE YOU TRYINGTO SAY THAT YOU ARE A BETTER JUDGE OF TALENT THAN THE LIKES OF GRAEME CARR, ALAN PARDEW AND PETER BEARDSLEY? Maybe AVB isnt taking over Tottenham after all maybe its your amazing genius that they are after and the AVB is all rumours:-) My advice to you is to keep your eyes open this season probably wouldnt do you any harm it might even help you with your upcoming career at Tottenham.


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