Debuchy Pleads For Move – Fans Reach For Bucket And Sponge


More news about Newcastle’s attempts to get Mathieu Debuchy on Tyneside, and never let it be said that Newcastle don’t drag out potential transfers, by bidding low (make that very low) and slowly (make that very slowly) raise the price they are willing to offer for the player, always hoping the other side gets sick of the game along the way, and accepts the bid. 😀

Mathieu Debuchy – new picture of Frenchman – to keep things interesting

That’s basically what seems to be happening with nearly all of Newcastle’s attempts to bring players into the club this summer – like Mathieu Debuchy, Andy Carroll, Vurnon Anita and Douglas.

And news today that last night Mathieu again pleaded with the Lille representatives to let him move to Newcastle, and accept the bid from Newcastle, whatever amount the last one was for.

The Evening Chronicle is reporting that Newcastle thought they were close to getting the deal done last week, and they agreed personal terms with the player, and thought the deal was almost done.

But complications at the Lille end have delayed the deal – and we suppose those complications are that Lille want more money than Newcastle have offered – picky picky – why do Lille complicate things?

And of course the French club are still probably ticked off that Newcastle got Yohan Cabaye for only €5M (£4M) last summer, and now he is one of the best players in the France National side.

Newcastle fans are looking for the bucket and sponge, as they follow the slow news on the deal we thought we’d have completed weeks ago, but Newcastle are trying to get a good deal, and seem willing to wait for Lille to accept their offer.

A source close to the deal (his big pal Yohan Cabaye who must be keeping up with what’s going on?) has said this to the Evening Chronicle today:

“Mathieu wants to come.” “He’s had his heart set on the move for a long time now.” “It’s now down to whether the board can pull this one off.”  “If they can it’s pretty obvious that this would be seen as a real capture.”

This seems to have gone on forever, and there’s no truth in the rumor that Lille Present Michel Seydoux looks 10 years older than he did in early May.

Whenever any author writes a new book on negotiating skills,  they should study the way Newcastle United do their transfer business, and maybe quote Mike Ashley and Derek LLambias, because the club are obviously very patient and very determined to get a good deal done – but it’s hardly good to watch – from a Newcastle fan’s perspective.

It’s simply amazing that this deal has dragged on for this length of time, but Newcastle want good deals, and they will not overpay for any player.

It’s no wonder Newcastle start their summer transfer plans in early January.

Oh well ….. and so it continues.

But we are reminded on the positive side, of the William Shakespeare play – All’s well that ends well.

We hope that’s the case with Newcastle’s long pursuit of Mathieu Debuchy.

Comments welcome.



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44 comments so far

  • Gateshead-Mag

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #1

    repost

    sharner, budda, neil buchannon, seseme street, pele’s brother and the entire history of ruwanda would be my bench

    hopefully the debuchy thing gets wrapped up as he would take buddas place on the bench

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  • jayphoto

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #2

    Maybe we can just clone scharner?? And have 11 of him all over the pitch! Wed be better than the renford rejects if we could pull that off!

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  • MagpiesFlyHigh

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #3

    The best players are the ones who want to come to the Toon.

    Got to be Debuchy.

    Kets idea of playing him as DM is pure fantasy

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #4

    Gateshead…Wouldn’t mind Yoda in the mix, you know a Messi type player 🙂

    Jimmy (from last thread)….Obviously good at going forward, but yes room to improve defensively, but what can we expect from a young player? Definitely can’t see anyone at the club thinking he was a mistake buy. As I said, huge future ahead for the lad.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #5

    MFH…I seem to remember hearing he can play in DM….might have been a Kets post mind 🙂

    Jay…Not sure the world could handle more than 1 Scharner.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #6

    @jimmymagpie from previous article
    I remeber the statement you mentioned but thought you put a post up a couple of nights ago (monday?) stating we had now ended our intrest and moved on
    Appologies jimmy if i have you confused with another blogger maybe silly season is effecting my mental health now!

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  • RobertNufc25

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #7

    Oh no another day in the Debuchy saga…

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  • RobertNufc25

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #8

    Scharner is training with Frankfurt in Germany.

    I broke that exclusive last nyt.
    So everybody dry their eyes.. Haha

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #9

    Robert….Has Debuchy been linked for a while then?

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #10

    Jimmy magpie

    If we manage to seal the Debuchy deal would you backtrack on your criticism of the clubs transfer policy?

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #11

    TDS – no problem mate, I think it’s getting to all of us, especially this Debuchy saga. Anyway, can’t stay lads – hospital appointment, I’m afraid. HTL!

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  • Graeme

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #12

    This saga is now longer than “War & Peace” and the “Works of Bill Shakespeare” combined!!

    It is well named as “Silly Season”!!

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #13

    Good luck Jimmy.

    Hopefully some good news later today.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #14

    Graeme..I don’t mind a long saga, as long as there is a happy ending.

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  • andytoon

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #15

    Please! Just sign the fella!! Much better than all other targets we’ve been linked with, so just do it…€1 million extra if thats what it takes, he’s worth far more than wat we’ve bid for him anyway – value will prob double in a year.

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  • Bloody Marveauxlous

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #16

    On SSN, it is saying that we have made another bid for Debuchy, and that it is likely to be accepted and finished by the end of the week!

    I am already Papissing my self with excitement!!!
    #Rollonthepuns

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #17

    Beattie – very quickly mate, I have to go, but it will depend what we end up paying. If we finish up paying what we could have got him for a month ago – no. Remember Pardew stated he wanted these players early to get them integrated. Must go. Speak longer later.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #18

    I know you’re going Jimmy, but just want to add something to your post.

    Surely if we went in at what they wanted from the start, they could still have just asked for more. Either we would of paid considerably more (or peanuts depending on opinion) or not get him at all as we would’ve thought him overvalued?

    If we get him, surely the transfer policy is working. The window is open for a set amount of time for a reason. Although of course, early arrivals are always preferable.

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  • RobertNufc25

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #19

    Ibiza

    No never heard the name Debuchy in my life.lol

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  • Graeme

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #20

    Ibizatoon, I agree mate but it seems like our Board have turned “Dragging it out” into an art form now.

    If we end up paying what they wanted when the window opened, we have wasted weeks where he could have been integrating into his new team!!

    All we can do is sit and wait lol

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #21

    Why did SS have to report that? Now, I’m going to be checking all day like a man possessed.

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  • RobertNufc25

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #22

    It seems to be a regular thing these days with us.

    I would say the Ben Arfa transfer was the most entertaining saga.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #23

    Robert…That’s what I thought mate. Love the way we keep bringing these players out of nowhere, that way there is no painful build up 🙂

    Graeme, I suppose it’s easy to speculate after the event, just can’t help thinking it wouldn’t make a difference. Firstly, they wanted some form of replacement in, secondly, as said before, who is to say if we had offered €8m straight away they wouldn’t have asked for €9-10m?

    End goal is what is important in the long run for me. A couple of weeks of pre season is unlikely to make or break us, but agree it obviously helps players having more time to settle.

    So, question time. If Simmo is really only valued around £2m (a.k.a. Peanuts), should we not keep him and let him run down his contract and have him as an option this year? Thoughts…

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  • Magpies-till-d3ath

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #24

    Lille’s GM has said that they haven’t received any new bids for Debuchy. 🙁

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #25

    If we’re talking pure entertainment, you can’t do much better than Scharner tbh. That one has kept us amused for quite a while…well some of us anyway

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #26

    Ibiza – still waiting for my blo-dy taxi. I didn’t say give them their asking price mate, but it would appear that we are only quibbling about £1.5m, and have now had to add a buy-on clause. Anyway, the policy is already exposed. Debuchy is over 26, which begs the question, where were we when Vlaar was available, a more than useful centre half, same age as Debuchy, and gone to Villa for £3m. TAXI. See you later lads.

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  • Phil K

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #27

    Ibizatoon – absolutely.
    Its unions negotiating a payrise. Whatever you start with, thats the START only. It goes up or down from there. If you blunder in offering top dollar from the off, you’ll end up paying than they would probably have settled for. The more you pay over the top, the less you can shell out for others.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #28

    Jimmy….Ok, somewhere between our original offer and their asking price then. Regardless of exact figures, if we had started higher, we would likely of finished at a higher figure.

    Taxi for Jimmy 🙂 Have a good day

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  • RobertNufc25

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #29

    Has anybody heard from Ketsbia from my Scharner exclusive?

    Bet ya he’s standing outside frankfurts training ground right now ha ha

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #30

    Ibiza would it help if i fed you trivial bits of breaking news from my day? I’ll give it a crack for you

    TADS BREAKING NEWS
    Tads source can reveal we believe that tads has put the kettle on and the board are optimistic he can have the brew completed very soon
    More to folllow…….

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #31

    Let’s look at Cisse as an example.

    We could of had him for €15m in the Summer (I believe). Now, we would have all been happy as fans, getting him 6 months earlier etc.

    But from a business perspective, getting him 6 months later at €9m, approximately 40% less is amazing business.

    It’s all perspective at the end of the day. There needs to be a balance between business deals and progressing the club at a suitable rate. I personally think, the board are doing a great job with that balancing act.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #32

    Tads…Get that beverage over the line mate. If you would of only had shelled out that extra bit of money you could of got a better kettle. One that could boil quicker. You’ve messed up the whole morning by being a tight ass.

    TADS OUT!

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #33

    Robert…Not sure if it’s related, but just seen a news report about a mad man being detained in Frankfurt. Apparently he’s been wondering around screaming “Scharner, how could you do this to me”.

    Locals have likened his voice to that of Zed from police academy. I suppose it could be anyone

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  • PAPPIS NEVAMISS

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #34

    If we are all honest we had never heard of Debuchy before the Euro’s and he gave a good account of himself certainly looked a class above what we have ATM but this is hardcore business for Ashley and co. which could go either way sooner or later the clubs we are biting will bite back when we are reaping the benefits of their value increasing due to the publicity the EPL gets.

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  • rich_toonfan

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #35

    Ibiza

    It has also been reported on local news in frankfurt that the man was wearing a black and white football top, nostrils unconfirmed if it’s newcastle or juventus.

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  • RobertNufc25

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #36

    Ha ha ha ha ha !

    Ketsbias on suicide watch in a Frankfurt hospital!

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  • surreytoon

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #37

    The flurry of reports about our second bis including the Sky one are all based on the Le 10 french report yesterday! Nice to know that a Brtish sports journalists life is much the same as ours, trawling for news then re-reporting it. I think the Lille officials comment that they have no new bid is yesterdays news and several hours before our 2nd bid went in.

    Positive is that despite the several hours elapsed, they havent gone running to Le 10 saying the second bid is rejected… Bodes well?

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  • rich_toonfan

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #38

    Papiss

    That’s why I think it’s important our scouting network is increased to cover south America, Australia, and eastern Europe.

    We need to be in countries where teams can’t offer top football and are willing to accept a lower bid.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #39

    Rich…Or it’s possible he’s an escaped prison inmate (much like Elvis’ – “Jailhouse Rock” video)?

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  • Batfastard

    Aug 2, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #40

    He dos,nt want to be at Lille next season he will have a second choice whether that is chelski or inter stop pissing about and sign him

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