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Demba Ba Staying Could Help Debuchy Coming

9:13 am, Friday, August 3rd, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 40 Comments

One thing that seems to have been on the minds of the Newcastle hierarchy – read that as Mike Ashley, Derek Llambias and Secretary Lee Charley – was the possibility that Demba Ba could leave the club for a measly £7M release clause in his contract, because if that happened  Newcastle would have to bring in another top striker, over and above what they had already planned for this summer.

Demba Ba - still at Newcastle – could help Debuchy move

But with Ba still being at Newcastle, that has come as a huge relief to Newcastle, and it seems we have two of the best strikers in the Premier League next season, in Ba and his Senegal team-mate Papiss Cisse.

The news in the local papers today is that with Ba staying, Newcastle’s highest priority remains the right-back position,, and the other reason for that is that Danny Simpson is still refusing to sign his new deal, and Newcastle will want to sell him this summer, instead of allowing him to become a free agent, as they did with Danny Guthrie this summer.

They should get at least £2M for Danny, although we’d be sorry to see him go and hope he signs a new deal to stay on Tyneside – but that isn’t looking very likely.

So it looks like Newcastle are now in a better position to bid higher for Debuchy, and that could well happen in the near future, and we expect Newcastle to give it at least one more go for the French International.

After the right-back position we would assume Newcastle need to bring in another center-back, although it’s very likely Curtis Good will get a run-out at Den Haag tomorrow afternoon in Holland, and this lad looked cool and collected for the Newcastle eleven that beat Gateshead 4-1 earlier this week at the International Stadium.

If Curtis continues to look good (sorry for that one),  then it could be that Newcastle will hold off on bringing a senior center-back to Newcastle this summer, although that will be a risk, given what happened last season with Mike Williamson and Steven Taylor both being injured.

But we think Newcastle have three senior players still to bring in before Monday, September 2nd, when the transfer window ends this year, because the 31st August falls on a Saturday.

We need a full-back, a center-back and a striker – and we should then be in good shape for the new season – assuming we don’t lose any senior players – other than perhaps Danny Simpson.

What do you think?

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Tags: Contracts · Danny Simpson · Demba Ba · Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target


40 responses so far ↓

  • 1 geordie157 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    As for debuchy, lets change strategy and buy more attackers and win 4-3 every game.

    Ok on a more serious note Spurs linked with 10mill move for Rondon, he’d be a good signing and maybe a little cheaper than Remy.

  • 2 geordie157 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Next friendly give Good and Saylor 45mins each at centre back, Tav 90mins at right back.

  • 3 Hatem's better than Messi // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    “Demba Ba Staying Could Help Debuchy Coming”

    2 + 2 = lol …

  • 4 davybtoon // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Debuchy is kicking off with Lille like says they keep changing the goal posts for Nufc ginna kick off with chairman

    Deal still on possibly

  • 5 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:22 AM

    I like your optimism Ed. Surely the business heads at the club wouldn’t have been thinking about such things though, they’re just being cheap ;)

  • 6 SupaToonKid // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    I really hope the club pull a couple of rabbits out the hat soon as i’m really starting to get nervous about the Spurs game. I can’t lose face to all these Southern wankers too early in the season. Come on MA & DL stop dicking about and get us the 3-4 signings we need, PLEASE! (For my sanity more than anything).

  • 7 TorqToon // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Billythefish – How did you hear that info mate ? You don’t have ‘The Sage’ held hostage in your cellar do you? :-)

  • 8 mylestoon // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    By the power of scharner this deal had best go through!

  • 9 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    @hatem i understand what you’re joking about but if you read the article its about our priority spending being focused away from a top striker so it makes sense that we would concentrate on getting debuchy in. Therefore ba staying might actually help with debuchy staying.
    Slightly misleading headline if that is all you read

  • 10 geordie157 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    Debuchy will still sign i think, just think it will drag on to deadline day. I think Tav could start at right back, plenty of options though really.

    Worst case we have Tav, Simo, Santon, Perch, Raylor who can all play there.

    Or alternatives to Debuchy like Van Der Wiel, maybe this Corchia or Rosales. Or move Santon to rb and sign someone like Cissokho or Pieters.

  • 11 wynsleap // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:38 AM

    Ed – Think you have your dates mixed up – 31st August falls on a Friday this year. Sept. 2nd is on a Sunday not Monday

  • 12 spitfire_ // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    “Demba Ba Staying Could Help Debuchy Coming”

    How’s that gonna happend? We will say to Lille “Take this 6 mill plus 20% for next transfer… and we have Demba Ba… just forget that we fcuked you for Cabaye”. Nice.

  • 13 geordie157 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:40 AM

    maybe Tranfer Sage is Paul Scharner and he will confirm he has signed a lucrative deal later today?

  • 14 geordie157 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:42 AM

    No wonder Villa were cr@p last season, Stephen Ireland was their player of the year, that says it all.

  • 15 Oldgit1 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:42 AM

    I would like to keep simmo even if we land debuchy, Simmo is a better defender although he does not have the skill as an attacking fullback. Handy when we are holding onto a lead.
    Sure I read recently, when asked, he said he was not leaving,perhaps he is running down his contract.

  • 16 Billythefish // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Torqtoon, my pals good mates with carrolls, he knew about Nolan and west ham before it was even in the news.
    The toon are stalling on the fee but something should be sorted if the clubs can agree, he is defo wanting back wages not the stumbling block. Just the powers that be at each club.

  • 17 Les Grossman // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:46 AM

    Enuff of debuchy already FFS!
    MOVE ON!!

    Lets get a 5m bid in for Van Der Wiel NOW!!

    Keep Simpson also.
    Job done.

    we are putting all our eggs in one basket trying to sign this debuchy………..wasting valuable time.

  • 18 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Spitfire…..Well, if we don’t need money for another “top” striker, perhaps we can afford to meet the Lille valuation. It’s not about being able to say “na ne ne ne na nah, we still got Ba”.

  • 19 ajcrawfs // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    I actually think we only need a right back i really believe that is our only weak position. possibly a centre back but wouldn’t be too fussed either way. just hope we get debuchy

  • 20 spitfire_ // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:50 AM


    Honestly I prefer to give the money for a top striker for a top centre back… then we should by some young prospect striker for less money. Van der Wiel will be cheap than Debuchy… he had one year left and he is 3-4 years younger.

  • 21 spitfire_ // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:52 AM


  • 22 TorqToon // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:52 AM

    Billythefish – Sounds good mate. Did your mate say anything regards the WHU link? I have read that he is going to turn it down but I never know what to believe.

  • 23 Les Grossman // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    What are you baseing your theory on that we only need a RB? and why is it so weak?

  • 24 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    Completely missing the point. It’s not as if we couldn’t get hold of the money, but the club refuses to pay more than they have to for transfers. Debuchy is now 27 so if we have him for 3 or 4 years, we will probably not get a large transfer fee for him. This doesn’t really align with our policy so I’m sure they’ll be sitting down and deciding if they move on or up their offer.

  • 25 Les Grossman // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    We have perchino, Raylor, Tav, Santon all can play RB!

    As a matter of fact, it is quite a strong position at the club.

  • 26 pinkorbrown // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Anybody know the NUFC Blog code for FantasyPremierLeague this year??

  • 27 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Is anyone joining/creating a mini-league for the Fantasy Premier League?

    If not, I’ll create a mini-league if anyone is interested?

  • 28 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    Spitfire…I think that’s the point, we’re not losing one of our top strikers, so can afford to spend more money on a top RB or CB. I agree, we need a young and upcoming striker, not someone ready made…although, you wont hear me complain if we sign one :)

  • 29 Papiss9 // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:02 AM

    Its already made a league, cant remember the code or who made it. its called The NUFCblog SuperLeague 12/13

  • 30 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM

    Papiss – cheers. Unfortunately I need the code to enter, and Google doesn’t want to shed any light on it. Do you know who’s in it?

  • 31 Papiss9 // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM


    I posted on the wall on the league side. I can give you the code if anyone replies. Could not find the code myself.

  • 32 Papiss9 // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    There is already 40 people in. Hope somebody sees the message.

  • 33 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    Papiss – thanks. Yeah, looks like only the administrator can get access to the code. I think the administrator will be the person at the top of the list.

    How many people in the league mate? Good one?

  • 34 Billythefish // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    He wants away from pool, not keen on hammers, only wants here. Will reduce wage, apparently loved the experience and could not knock back what they were offering. But realises happiness worth more than money, has no regrets and said he was advised he may never get such an opportunity again, was being honest when said he had no option.

  • 35 Papiss9 // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:12 AM

    Yeah, its about 40 persons in the league so far. Hope as many as possible from the blog joins :)

  • 36 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Cheers Papiss. Hopefully they’ll check it.

  • 37 Papiss9 // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    league code is: 78278-39466

  • 38 JohnNUFC // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    Why aren’t we in for a CM? In the words of victor meldrew, I don’t believe it.

  • 39 JohnNUFC // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    Or at least trying to push the Anita deal through?!

  • 40 pinkorbrown // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    Cheers very much!!

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